Gwero: Demokalase Tsopano!
Wolemba mbiri wa Pentagon Papers a Daniel Ellsberg ati kumva kwa Julian Assange ku London kutha kukhala ndi zotsatirapo zazikulu paufulu wa atolankhani. Woyambitsa WikiLeaks akukumana ndi milandu yambiri yaukazitape komanso kubera yomwe ikukhudzana ndi kutulutsidwa kwa zingwe zaukazembe zomwe zimawulula zachiwawa zomwe zidachitika ndi asitikali aku US ku Iraq ndi Afghanistan. Assange akuyang'anizana ndi chigamulo china, ngati achotsedwa, komanso zaka 175 m'ndende. "Atolankhani aku America akhala akukana kwa zaka 40, kwenikweni, popeza mlandu wanga, kuti Espionage Act ili ndi mawu omwe angawalumikize mwachindunji," akutero Ellsberg, yemwe adachitira umboni poteteza Assange pamwambo wake. kuyesa kwa extradition kudzera pavidiyo yochokera ku United States. "Tsopano atolankhani aku America akuyang'ana pansi pakugwiritsa ntchito lamulo la Espionage motsutsana ndi atolankhani aku America ndi osindikiza polemba utolankhani."
AMY GOODMAN: izi ndi Demokarase Tsopano! Ndine Amy Goodman, ndi Nermeen Shaikh, pamene tikutembenukira ku nkhani ya ufulu wa atolankhani yomwe ikuchitika ku London, kumene Julian Assange, woyambitsa ndi mkonzi wamkulu wa WikiLeaks, akulimbana ndi kutumizidwa ku United States chifukwa cha kusintha kosasintha. mitundu yambiri ya ukazitape ndi mlandu wobera. Assange akuyang'anizana ndi chigamulo chotsimikizika, ngati atatulutsidwa kuno, ndi zaka 175 m'ndende. Otsutsa aku US akuti adapangana chiwembu ndi Chelsea Manning, yemwe anali wachinsinsi ku Asitikali aku US, kuti atsitse mazana masauzande ankhondo kuchokera ku Iraq ndi Afghanistan, pamodzi ndi zingwe zazikuluzikulu zaku US State Department.
Akatswiri adayimilira kuti ateteze Assange, kuphatikiza wodziwika bwino wa Pentagon Papers, Dan Ellsberg, yemwe adachitira umboni Lachitatu pakutulutsidwa kwawo kudzera pavidiyo kunyumba kwawo ku California, ku Berkeley. Mu 1971, Ellsberg anali katswiri wofufuza za Pentagon pamene adatulutsa lipoti lachinsinsi la US ku Vietnam lomwe linadziwika kuti Pentagon Papers, lomwe linalemba momwe akuluakulu a boma adanamiza anthu za nkhondo. Monga Assange, Ellsberg adapereka zikalata zomwe zidatulutsidwa The New York Times. Komanso monga Assange, Ellsberg anaimbidwa mlandu pansi pa Espionage Act ndipo adatha moyo wake wonse m'ndende, ngakhale woweruza adataya mlandu wake zitadziwika kuti Purezidenti Nixon adalamula kuti zigawenga ziwonongeke pofuna kumuwononga. Dan Ellsberg alowa nafe tsopano kuchokera ku Berkeley.
Takulandilaninso ku Demokarase Tsopano!, Dan. Tilibe nthawi yochuluka choncho, koma kambiranani chifukwa chake mudachitira umboni pamlandu wa extradition, kupempha kuti Julian Assange asatumizidwe ku United States - komabe, tiyenera kunena kuti wakhala ali mu ukapolo kwa zaka zisanu ndi zitatu tsopano. atapita ku Embassy ya Ecuador, komwe adathawirako ndale, koma adakhalako kwa zaka zambiri, boma latsopano la mapiko a ku Ecuador lisanathetse udindo wa chitetezo cha ndale ndipo akuluakulu a ku Britain adalowa ndikumuthamangitsa ndikumubweretsa kundende ya Belmarsh, ndende yotetezedwa kwambiri ku Britain.
DANIELI ELLSBERG: Inde, ndikufuna kuyang'ana kwambiri, Amy, pazovuta zazikulu za nkhaniyi, popeza tili ndi mphindi imodzi kapena ziwiri zokha. Zowonadi, atolankhani aku America akhala akukana kwa zaka 40, kwenikweni, kuyambira mlandu wanga, kuti Lamulo la Espionage lili ndi mawu omwe atha kuwalunjika mwachindunji, kwa atolankhani ndi osindikiza, ngakhale, mpaka izi. choncho, sizinachite choncho. Kotero, tsopano atolankhani aku America akuyang'ana pansi pa mbiya pakugwiritsa ntchito lamulo la Espionage motsutsana ndi atolankhani aku America ndi osindikiza pochita utolankhani, pochita zomwe akuchita bwino, mwakukhoza kwawo, tsiku lililonse, kupeza zidziwitso zomwe boma silichita. sindikufuna kudziwika kwa anthu chifukwa cha zolakwa zawo, mabodza awo, zolakwa zawo, zilizonse - pali zambiri. Ndipo ndicho chomwe makamaka dongosolo lachinsinsi likufuna kuteteza, kosatha.
Tsopano, si atolankhani aku America okha pano, ngakhale American First Amendment, maziko a boma lathu, ndinganene, ali pachiwopsezo pakali pano ndipo akuwukiridwa. Kwenikweni, ngati Julian achotsedwa, monga ndikunena, monga momwe mudanenera, zidzatsogolera ku kuzengedwa mlandu pano, ndipo mwina kutsutsidwa, ndipo sadzakhala - adzakhala mtolankhani woyamba ndi wofalitsa, koma osati wotsiriza. New York Times mwina sichikhala chachiwiri, ngakhalenso; akhoza kukhala wachitatu kapena wachinayi - ndi inu, Amy, komanso. Kotero, aliyense ali ndi gawo mu izi. Pakadali pano, ngati Julian atumizidwa ku United States kukakumana ndi milandu iyi chifukwa chochita utolankhani womwe ali nawo, milandu yomwe amamupangira, palibe mtolankhani padziko lonse lapansi amene ali wotetezeka kundende ya moyo wonse ku United States of America. Kotero, apa pali mavuto aakulu. Ndipo chifukwa cha ufulu wa atolankhani kulikonse - wathu uli kutali ndi wangwiro, malo ena ali ndi zochepa, ochepa ali ndi zambiri - koma kuthekera kwa ufulu wa atolankhani, motero demokalase, ili pachiwopsezo padziko lonse lapansi mu izi. Izi zikumveka ngati zokokomeza, ndipo sizili choncho.
Ozemba mlandu adatsimikizira dzulo kuti akukhazikitsa zambiri pamilandu, choyamba, - osati kwambiri ndi ine, koma ndi mboni zina - chifukwa Chelsea Manning adalimbikitsidwa ndi Julian kuti apereke zambiri, ndipo iye kwenikweni. anapempha zikalata. Sindingathe kuwerengera kangati zomwe ndafunsidwa kuti andipatse zikalata, monga momwe zinalili zoyenera kwa atolankhani. Chifukwa chake chiwembu chimenecho ndichinthu chomwe gwero lililonse limadutsa ndi mtolankhani aliyense yemwe amagwiritsa ntchito magwero.
Pa funso la zomwe - zowonongeka zomwe wachita, boma likufuna kuyang'ana kwambiri kuti mayina, osasinthidwa, anali okhudzidwa, m'maganizo mwawo - ndipo momveka bwino, momveka bwino - pangozi m'mayiko omwe adasindikizidwa. . Monga ndinafotokozera woimira boma pa milandu, njira yoletsera ngoziyo kuti isachitike inali kuletsa kufalitsidwa kwa mayinawo. Ndipo amenewo sanali mayina omwe mwina atolankhani kapena WikiLeaks kapena a Julian Assange amafuna kutulutsa. M'malo mwake, atolankhani ndi boma ankadziwa bwino - atolankhani anali kutenga nawo mbali - kuti anali kuyesetsa kwambiri kuti asinthe kuchokera mu unyinji wa zolemba izi mayina a aliyense amene angakhale ndi nkhawa kapena chiwopsezo kapena akhoza kukhala mkati. zoopsa zenizeni. Ndipo, chachiwiri, iwo anapempha boma kuti lipereke mayina amene akanatha kuwatulutsa. Zinali m’kuthekera kwa boma kuletsa anthu amenewo, osati onse amene akanatha kuyanjana nawo, ngakhale kuwululidwa nkomwe, ngakhale kukhala mumkhalidwe wa nkhaŵa, ndipo anasankha kusatero. Iwo ali ndi udindo wonse wa nkhawa, kuthawa kwa ena a iwo m'mayiko awo - udindo wonse, ndinganene, boma, popeza akanatha kuletsa izo ndipo anasankha kusatero. Ndikungonena kuti amakonda kusunga milandu, milandu iyi kwa a Julian Assange, pamapeto pake, m'malo moteteza anthuwo pachiwopsezo chomwe adayikidwamo.
Pomaliza, ndizosuliza kwambiri - monga ndimamvera pakali pano malipoti omwe mukupanga. Tikulankhula za anthu omwe ndi othawa kwawo kunkhondo yomwe United States idayambitsa, poyamba ndikuukira Afghanistan, koma makamaka ndi nkhanza zake ku Iraq. Ndipo ndidatchulapo izi tsiku lina kwa wosuma mlandu, kuti, ndikungonena kuti, zonyoza - nditha kugwiritsa ntchito mawu ena - kunena kuti boma, boma lathu, likuda nkhawa ndi anthu 100 kapena 200 omwe akukhudzidwa ndi nkhawa, ndipo ena a iwo akupempha kuti achoke m'dzikolo ndi thandizo la US, kuti adandaule ndi anthu amenewo, pamene boma ili latsogolera kuthawa kwa othawa kwawo 37 miliyoni ochokera ku nkhondo zoyambitsidwa ndi America, zovuta za ena omwe mwawafotokozera kumene. Ndi chipongwe. Ndipo ngati mayeserowa apambana, ngati extradition yapambana, kale izo zidzakhala ndi zotsatira zowopsya kwa atolankhani padziko lonse lapansi ndikukhala kuukira kwachindunji pa First Amendment ya United States.
AMY GOODMAN: Daniel Ellsberg, tikufuna kukuthokozani chifukwa chokhala nafe, komanso, m'modzi mwa oyimba mluzu wotchuka kwambiri padziko lapansi. Adachitira umboni pamlandu wa a Julian Assange Lachitatu. Ndipo kuti zimveke bwino, a Julian Assange, kuyambira pa ukaidi wapanyumba ku Britain mpaka kukagwira ntchito ku Embassy ya Ecuador kwa zaka zopitilira zisanu ndi ziwiri mpaka kukhala ku Belmarsh, ndende yachitetezo chapamwamba, kwa chaka ndi theka, wakhala ali mu ukapolo. kwa zaka zoposa khumi. Izo zimachita pawonetsero wathu. Kuti muwone athu kuyankhulana ndi mmodzi wa maloya ake, Jennifer Robinson, pitani ku democracynow.org.
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