Emphakathini owakhiwe phezu kwamanga, ukufuna iqiniso kuwumdlalo.
Cabanga ngenkulumo-mpikiswano emayelana 'nezinsongo' 'zokuzimela' kwe-BBC, njengoba ne-BBC ngokwayo imibiko kasihlalo wayo ophumayo:
'Mayelana nokuhamba kukaMnuz Sharp, ngiyaqonda ukuthi izingxoxo phakathi kwe-BBC nohulumeni bezilokhu zaba khona ezinsukwini ezisanda kwedlula. Ubungakulindela lokho.
'Usihlalo we-BBC uqokwa kwezombusazwe.'
Uma lokho kungakuthetheleli u-Twitter ukubiza yonke intatheli ye-BBC ngokuthi 'imidiya ehlobene nombuso wase-UK', asazi ukuthi yenzani.
Noma cabanga ukuthi, i-cap esandleni, i-Guardian manje iziveza kanjani njengomsebenzi wesitayela se-Media Lens, imemezela ekugcineni kwezindatshana zayo:
'Njengenhlangano yezindaba exhaswa abafundi ngezimali, sithembele ekuphaneni kwenu. Sicela ninikele ngokusemandleni akho, ukuze izigidi zizuze ekubikeni okuseqophelweni eliphezulu ngezenzakalo ezilolonga umhlaba wethu.'
Siyazibuza ukuthi bangaki abafundi abaxhasa lo msebenzi wamaqhawe abaziyo ukuthi, ngonyaka odlule, umhleli we-Guardian, u-Kath Viner, wathola ukukhuphuka komholo ngamaphesenti angama-42 ka-£150,000, okuthatha iholo lakhe laba ku-£509,850. Brazen izimangalo ukuthi i-Guardian 'ayinayo ithonya lezentengiselwano' kuvela emakhasini ephephandaba elichichima izikhangiso zebhizinisi elincike kakhulu kuzo. Ngonyaka odlule, imali engenayo yokuphrinta nokukhangisa engu-£71.5m no-£73.7m ngokulandelanayo. I-Guardian ingeyeScott Trust, ephethe isikhwama sokutshala imali esingu-£1.3bn.
Noma singazama ukucabanga izintatheli zezinkampani zikhuphuka ngaphezu kwalo mbhedo, akwenzeki ukuba sizicabange zihlola izindaba ezijulile zokuchema kwabezindaba.
Khumbula umongo lapho izindaba nokuphawula kuvela khona: i-tsunami yokukhangisa kwebhizinisi okungama-24/7 okungeke kuxoxwe ngakho mayelana nokuchema kwayo. Ngaphandle kwalapho samukela ukuthi lezi zikhangiso kufanele zilinganiswe yi-counter-tsunami yokukhangisa okulwa nezinkampani, akukho mbuzo wokungakhethi kwabezindaba ngenxa yalesi sizathu kuphela.
Kodwa lokhu kusalokhu kunwaya nje phezulu. Emphakathini wethu wezinkampani, ukunqoba okukhulu kakhulu kwebhizinisi elilodwa akukona okuqukethwe okuhlungiwe kwephephandaba lansuku zonke noma ukusakazwa kwezindaba ebusuku; Ikona us, umbono wethu wokuthi singobani, ukuthi kusho ukuthini ukuba umuntu. Singahlekisa iLanga futhi sikhale nge-Mail, kodwa zibuke esibukweni - we ziwumkhiqizo wokugcina wenkulumo-ze.
U-Erich Fromm wabhala ngokukhulelwa komuntu ngaye kanye naye emphakathini wonxiwankulu:
'Umzimba wakhe, ingqondo yakhe nomphefumulo wakhe kuyinhloko yakhe, futhi umsebenzi wakhe ekuphileni uwukutshala ngendlela efanele ukuze azenzele inzuzo.' (Erich Fromm, 'The Sane Society', Routledge, 1991, p.138)
Ukubaluleka angeke kuqiniswe: uma izigidi zamadoda nabesifazane bezinkampani zizibona njengemikhiqizo okufanele idayiswe emakethe yemisebenzi, umbuzo wokungavumelani, womphakathi wezinkampani oyinselele, awuveli nakancane. Umbono awukona nje ukungabi namsebenzi, uwusongo ekuvumelaneni okusiza 'impumelelo'. Umphumela ululaza kakhulu ubuntu:
'Umuntu ohlukanisiwe odayiswayo kumele alahlekelwe umuzwa omuhle wesithunzi okuyisici somuntu ngisho nasemasikweni amaningi akudala. Kumelwe alahlekelwe cishe yiwo wonke umuzwa wobuyena, njengomuntu oyingqayizivele futhi ongaphenduki.' (Kusuka, p.138)
Kulokhu, akukhona ukuthi sinjalo ngandlela thize ngodaba oluthile ngendlela yombiko wephephandaba; wona kanye umqondo wokuthi kufanele sifune futhi senze ngokuvumelana neqiniso, ukuthi singamanxusa anokuziphatha, uba inhlekisa, uhlekwe. Futhi lokhu, ngempela, kuyitimu eyisisekelo 'yamahlaya' amaningi e-tabloid namanye abezindaba aqondiswe kwesokunxele kanye nezishoshovu eziluhlaza.
Emphakathini walolu hlobo, u-Fromm wabhala, iqiniso alinandaba:
'Okubalulekile nje ukuthi akukho lutho olungathi sína kakhulu, ukuthi umuntu ubonisana ngemibono, futhi ukulungele ukwamukela noma yimuphi umbono noma ukukholelwa (uma kukhona into enjalo) njengokuhle njengokunye.' (ikhasi.152)
Uma u-Fromm ethi 'akukho lutho olunzima kakhulu', usho ukuthi sinjalo abangenandaba ngokuyisisekelo.
Singakhomba ubufakazi? Ngesonto eledlule, kwaba njalo kubika ukuthi izinga lokushisa eliphakeme kakhulu lika-April elake laqoshwa eSpain - uhlobo lwerekhodi okungenzeka, ngokomlando, lephulwe ngengxenye yedigri - lishaywe wukukhuphuka kuka-5C.
Lesi sibonakaliso sakamuva senhlekelele yesimo sezulu esiseduze sabikwa kafushane sabe sesilibaleka. Ithole ingxenye encane yokunakwa nokukhathazeka okufanele - hhayi nje kwabezindaba kodwa nasemphakathini. Kwakuyisibonelo esisodwa nje sendlela 'umuntu wanamuhla abonisa ngayo ukungabi namaqiniso okumangalisayo kukho konke okubalulekile. Ngencazelo yokuphila nokufa, injabulo nokuhlupheka, ukuzwa nokucabanga okujulile'. (Kusuka, p.166)
Akudingekile ukusho ukuthi, ubuntatheli bebhizinisi yikhaya lemvelo le-Corporate Man ngoba umsebenzi wabo wangempela ukuvikela isimo esikhona.
Ngenkathi esebenza njengomhleli omkhulu wezepolitiki obonakala sengathi ungowakwesokunxele e-New Statesman, uMehdi Hasan - manje osethula i-Mehdi Hasan Show ku-Peacock kanye ne-MSNBC - wabhala ukuphawula okulandelayo encwadini eya ku-Lord Dacre, umnikazi we-Daily Mail:
'Nakuba ngingakwesokunxele kumkhakha wezepolitiki, futhi ngingavumelani nohlu lokuhlela lwe-Mail ezindabeni eziningi, bengihlale ngincoma umdlandla wephepha, ukuqina, isibindi kanye, kunjalo, namagugu ezindaba. Ngikholwa ukuthi i-Mail inendima ebaluleke kakhulu okufanele iyidlale engxoxweni kazwelonke, futhi ngincoma ukugxila kwakho ngokungaphezi esidingweni sobuqotho nokuziphatha empilweni yomphakathi, kanye nokuvikela kwakho ukholo ngokungagunci, namasiko obuKristu, lapho ubhekene nokuhlaselwa okuvela abangakholelwa ebukhoneni bukaNkulunkulu nabangakholelwa kuNkulunkulu. Ngiyakholwa futhi… ukuthi ngingaba umuntu omusha nonomdlandla, ingasaphathwa eyophikisayo noma ephikisayo, izwi mayelana nokuphawula kanye namakhasi ezici zephephandaba lakho eliwine imiklomelo.'
U-Hasan wangeza:
'Ngakho-ke ngingabhala izingcezu ze-Mail egxeka i-Labour kanye nesobunxele, kusukela "ngaphakathi" kwezabasebenzi kanye nesobunxele (njengomhleli omkhulu wezombusazwe e-New Statesman).'
Umuntu akanakucabanga ngesibonelo esingcono sika-Fromm 'sobuntu obuhlukanisiwe obuthengiswayo' (ikhasi 138), lapho u-Hasan ethengisa izici, izinzuzo kanye nezinzuzo zomuntu wangaphakathi kwesokunxele izifakazelo zokuhlasela kwesokunxele.
Esinye isibonelo esiyinhloko salolu hlobo lobuntu oluphatha iqiniso njengomdlalo umlobi wephephandaba ongu-Guardian ophezulu u-Jonathan Freedland. Umhlaziyi wezepolitiki, uNorman Finkelstein, unina owasinda eWarsaw Ghetto, ikamu lokuhlushwa laseMajdanek kanye namakamu okugqilazwa amabili, kanye noyise owasinda eWarsaw Ghetto kanye nekamu lokuhlushwa lase-Auschwitz, Ubeke amazwana eFreedland:
'… ngenkathi incwadi yami ethi, The Holocaust Industry, iphuma ngo-2000, iFreedland yabhala ukuthi “ngangiseduze nabantu abadale ukuQothulwa Kwesizwe kunalabo abahlupheka kukho”. Nakuba ebonakala elungile manje ngokwezombangazwe, akazange akuthole kungafanele ukusikisela ukuthi ngifana namaNazi adubula umkhaya wami ngegesi.'
UFinkelstein waveza iphuzu elibalulekile:
'Savela ohlelweni lwethelevishini ndawonye. Ngaphambi kwesimiso, weza kimi ezongixhawula. Lapho ngenqaba, wathula esamangele. Bengingamxhawula ngani? Akakwazanga ukukuqonda. Ikutshela okuthile ngalezi zilwane ezinwabuzelayo. Ukunyundela, ukunyundela - kubo, konke kuwumsebenzi wosuku. Kungani kufanele umuntu acasuke? Kamuva, ohlelweni, kwavezwa ukuthi i-Guardian, lapho ayesebenza khona, yayihlanganise i-Holocaust Industry ezindabeni ezimbili. Wabuzwa umethuli, uma incwadi yami ilingana nekaMein Kampf, angasula ephepheni? Vele akunjalo. Umethuli wezinhlelo akakutholanga ukuthi umdlalo nje?'
Konke kungumdlalo okufanele kudlalwe ukuze kuzuze inzuzo - akukho okumele 'kuthathwe njengokubaluleke kakhulu' ngabantu bezinkampani ababonisa 'ukuntula okumangalisayo kokwenzeka kwezinto' kukho konke okubalulekile.
'I-Plainly A War Crime' - UChorley Uxoxa noChomsky
UMat Chorley, owake waba yi-Taunton Times, uphatha uhlelo lomsakazo ku-Times Radio kaRupert Murdoch. Mhla zingama-26 kuMbasa, uChorley tweeted isiqeshana sokulingisa kwakhe sika-'Zippy', unodoli ohlelweni lwezingane lwase-UK, u-Rainbow, olwathatha amashumi amabili eminyaka kusukela ngo-1972-1992. Lesi siqeshana siphinde saveza u-Tim Shipman, umhlaziyi wezepolitiki weSunday Times, ephendula ngokulingisa kwakhe u-'George', imvubu ephinki yohlelo olufanayo.
Yiqiniso, akukho lutho olungalungile ngokuzijabulisa kancane. Kodwa esikhathini sakhe sakamuva interview ngoNoam Chomsky, izinga lobuntatheli bukaChorley alizange likhuphuke kakhulu. NjengoHasan noFreedland, kanye nobuntatheli obuningi bezinkampani, uChorley ungumuntu ophishekela 'ukumaketha' kuka-Fromm.
Sifunda okuningi lapho abafana bakaChorley behlangana noChomsky nabanye abaphikisana nemiphefumulo yabo engadayiswa; hhayi ngoba abakwaChorley banokuningi abangakusho, kodwa ngoba singofakazi, hhayi nje ukungqubuzana kwemibono nezindinganiso, kodwa izindlela zokuphila. Ukungqubuzana phakathi kobuqotho kanye nenkohliso, ukucaca kanye obfuscation, ukusebenzelana kanye nokungabi nandaba, ububele kanye egotism.
Ngokujwayelekile, lokhu kungqubuzana kuhilela umuntu oxoxisana naye ogxile, hhayi ekubuzeni imibuzo eqotho, kodwa ekuphonseni izicupho endleleni kaChomsky. Umgomo awukona ukuthola lokho akucabangayo kodwa ukumbamba ngandlela-thile, ubonise ukuthi ukhohlisiwe, noma uvukela umbuso. Ngempela, ngemva kwenhlolokhono, uChorley kuchazwe inhloso yakhe yokukhuluma noChomsky:
'Bona ukuthi umshisekeli wesikhathi eside waseRussia uyichaza kanjani i-Ukraine.'
Lokhu kucacisa ukuphawula okungaqondakali kukaChorley kungxoxo, okuphakamisa ukuthi 'isikhundla sikaChomsky esimelene neNtshonalanga':
'… kukuholele kumfelandawonye no-Vladimir Putin, owayewuhlobo olusha lomholi waseRussia. Futhi konke bekuyi-hunky-dory, kuze kube yilapho ehlasela i-Ukraine, futhi manje uzama ukukuthethelela ngomnyango ongemuva - yeka wena, uVladimir Putin.'
Noma ubani owazi okuthile ngoChomsky, uyazi ukuthi unakho ungalokothi ngibe 'ngumshisekeli wesikhathi eside' weRussian Bolshevism, Russian Communism, Stalinism, Soviet state unya ngokujwayelekile, futhi ngokuqinisekile hhayi kuPutin. Inkinga, singaqagela, ukuthi uChorley akazi ukuthi yini i-anarcho-syndicalism, noma ukuthi uChomsky usho ukuthini uma uthi 'uyi-derivative fellow traveller' ye-anarchism. Ngakho-ke, yonke inhlolokhono yayisekelwe embonweni mbumbulu wepolitiki kaChomsky.
UChorley waqala ngokuthula ngokwanele, ebuza imibuzo engenabungozi mayelana nendima kaChomsky yomsebenzi kanye nemicabango yakhe ngomqondo 'wongqondongqondo womphakathi'; noma ngabe uzifake kulowo mkhakha. Ukwazi kahle ukuthi hlobo luni lomuntu ayesebenzisana nalo – uChorley usebenzela uMurdoch, phela uChomsky wavele waphakamisa isibuko ebuka umbono kaChorley, ephawula ukuthi bobabili noChorley babe nenhlanhla yokukwazi ukungena emphakathini futhi babe nomthelela omncane. enkulumweni yeningi. Kuyisikhundla esiyilungelo esihambisana nomthwalo wemfanelo wangempela wokuziphatha. Lokhu sekuvele kwagqamisa igebe elihlukanisa u-Chomsky nokunganaki kokuziphatha kobuntatheli bezinkampani.
UChorley wabuza ukuthi uChomsky ucabanga ukuthi siphila 'ezikhathini eziyingozi neziphazamisayo' yini kunezizukulwane ezedlule. UChomsky waphendula ngokuthi isikhathi sethu 'siyingozi kakhulu', ecaphuna ukuthi Iwashi Losuku Lwembubhiso elidumile manje selilinganiswa kanjani, hhayi ngemizuzu ukuya phakathi kwamabili, kodwa ngemizuzwana kuya phakathi kwamabili (okwamanje, imizuzwana engama-90). Izinsongo ezikhulayo zihlanganisa ingozi yempi yenuzi, kodwa ngaphezu kwayo yonke inhlekelele yemvelo:
'Sigijimela eweni lokucekelwa phansi kwemvelo. Sinamashumi ambalwa eminyaka lapho singanciphisa khona noma sikulawule, kodwa sigijimela kwelinye icala – akukho okungaba yingozi ukwedlula lokho. Lokho kusho ukufinyelela amaphuzu abalulekile angenakuhlehliswa, ngaleso sikhathi, ukwehla okuqinile ekubhujisweni kwempilo yomuntu eMhlabeni. Asikaze sibhekane nalokho ngaphambilini. Empeleni, besibhekene nayo ngendlela kusukela ngomhlaka-6 Agastith, 1945, kodwa ungalokothi ube kuleli zinga lengozi.'
Ngokujwayelekile kulolu hlobo lobuntatheli obuzishiyile, uChorley waphendula kulokhu kugomela okubi njengokungathi ubengakezwa ngempela okwakushiwo, ephendula: 'Kuyathakazelisa ukuthi; Bengizokubuza…'. 'Kuyathakazelisa' kwakungeyona impendulo engathi sína kumandla alokho uChomsky ayekushilo. UChorley wabona ngokusobala ukuthi osopolitiki bebebonakala bengenaso isithakazelo ekuphenduleni inkinga yesimo sezulu. Ngokuqondene nathi sonke, uthe, 'sichitha isikhathi sethu sikhuluma ngezinto ezingasho lutho'.
Ake sithi uChomsky uthe isikole siyasha kanti amakhulu ezingane ashiswa ephila. Besingasabela kanjani lapho othile ephendula ngokuthi lezi zindaba 'ziyathakazelisa', ngaphambi kokuba siphawule ukuthi iziphathimandla zibonakala bengenasithakazelo sokwenza okuningi ngakho, kuyilapho umphakathi ubonakala ukhathazeke kakhulu ngezinto ezingasho lutho?
Inkosi edlule, vele, ekucindezeleni imicabango engathandeki ngalolu hlobo lokuthuka, uChomsky ukhulume ngezinkinga ezingezona ezingathi shu. kukhona kuxoxwe ngayo: impi yase-Ukraine, impi yaseYemen, 'ukubhujiswa okuphelele kwe-Iraq, kusaqhubeka; zonke lezi yizindaba ezibucayi kakhulu'.
Waphawula, futhi, ukuthi, ngonyaka odlule, ukukhiqizwa kukaphethiloli wezinto ezimbiwa phansi kwanda - i-US yandisa amasimu kawoyela amasha, ivula izindawo ezihlangene ukuze zihlolwe futhi zixhashazwe amashumi eminyaka azayo. Ngamahlaya akhe avamile amnyama, u-Chomsky wanezela:
'Izinkampani zikaphethiloli wezinto ezimbiwa phansi zijabule kakhulu ngamathemba okwandisa ukwesekwa komphakathi ebhizinisini labo lokucekela phansi impilo eMhlabeni. Ngakho, akubukeki kukuhle.'
UChorley wabe esephakamisa udaba lwase-Ukraine:
'Impela, e-UK, kwesokunxele - empeleni ngaphansi kwabantu abafana noJeremy Corbyn - baphikisa ngokuthi kwakungeyona iRussia eyayiyisitha, kwakuyi-US eyayiphazamisa umhlaba. Kodwa-ke iRussia ihlasela izwe elizimele, elibuswa ngentando yeningi khona kanye emngceleni wayo, iqala ingxabano esibulale amashumi ezinkulungwane zabantu abangenacala. Ingabe lokho akukwenzi kucace ukuthi ubani usongo lwangempela emhlabeni? Akuyona i-US, njengoba ama-leftists aphikisana isikhathi eside; yiRussia kaVladimir Putin.'
Ngemva kwe-Afghanistan, i-Iraq, iLibya, iSyria, iYemen, nezinye izibonelo eziningi njengoba umuntu angase akhathalele ukuzibala, lokhu kwakungamazwi ezingane. Impendulo ivela ku- Chomsky:
'Yebo, ukuhlasela kwe-Ukraine kuyicala lempi ngokusobala. Ngeke ukubeke esigabeni esifanayo namacala amakhulu empi, kodwa bukhulu kakhulu.'
Yimaphi amacala uChomsky ayenawo engqondweni? Uphawule ukuthi i-UN kanye nePentagon balinganisela ukuthi cishe izakhamizi eziyi-8,000 zibulewe e-Ukraine:
'Baningi labo abantu, okwenziwa yi-United States neBrithani ngobusuku obubodwa.'
Kunjalo, isibalo esingu-8,000 'kungenzeka ukuthi sibukelwa phansi', wengeza uChomsky, ngaphambi kokunikeza uchungechunge lwemicabango yokuhlola:
'Masithi kuphindwe kabili - lokho kungakubeka ezingeni [lo-1982] lokuhlasela kwe-Israel eLebanon okwasekelwa yi-US, okwabulala abantu ababalelwa ku-20,000. Ake sithi ihlehliswe ngokwengxenye yeshumi… lokho kungayibeka esigabeni sonya lwamaphekula e-Reagan e-El Salvador, cishe ngo-80,000. Yiqiniso, i-Iraq ingesinye isici.
'Ngakho-ke, kubi, icala elibi. Kodwa ungaqonda ukuthi kungani iGlobal South ingayithathi njengento ebaluleke kakhulu imibhikisho yamazwe aseNtshonalanga mayelana nalesi “siqephu esiyingqayizivele emlandweni”. Baye baba izisulu zokungaphezulu kakhulu. Mhlawumbe abantu baseRussia bazodlulela ezingeni lethu… Mhlawumbe bangafinyelela ngisho naseqophelweni lokukhumbula izenzo zabo zonya ezimbi kakhulu, njengeMariupol.'
UChomsky uphawule wathi obunye bobugebengu obubi kakhulu base-US e-Iraq ukucekelwa phansi kwedolobha lesithathu elihle lase-Iraq, i-Fallujah. Uphawule ukuthi i-US Navy isanda kuqamba umkhumbi wayo wempi wakamuva, i-USS Fallujah, 'ukuhlonipha ukuhlasela kwasolwandle okwenza esinye sezenzo zonya ezimbi kakhulu e-Iraq. Hhayi-ke, mhlawumbe amaRussia azofika kulelo qophelo, ngolunye usuku.'
UChorley waphawula:
'Kuyathakazelisa nokho, Noam Chomsky; sizwa into efanayo ngakwesobunxele lapha e-UK…'
U-Chomsky uphazanyisiwe:
'Akuhlangene kwesokunxele ...'
Lawa, amaqiniso nje - cishe amanani okufa aziwa kakhulu, athembekile kakhulu. Ababulali bayaziwa. Akukho ukuchema kwemibono kulokhu kubuka. Lapho is ukuchema kwemibono embonweni wokuthi lawa maqiniso ngandlela thize 'angakwesokunxele'.
UChorley waqhubeka:
'Lokhu kuzama ukwakha ukulingana, isimo esimelene neNtshonalanga… Usanda kuthola ukulingana nenani labantu abafa ezindaweni ezihlukahlukene… Lokho akwenzi ukuthi okwenziwe nguVladimir Putin kwalunga, akunjalo?'
Qaphela ukuthi, lapho ezwe uChomsky ekhuluma ngamanani amakhulu kakhulu okufa kwabantu abavela emacaleni aseNtshonalanga, uChorley wamangala ngokuthi uChomsky kungenzeka ukuthi uphakamisa ukuthi iNtshonalanga ngokwesigaba noPutin. Kwakungenakucatshangwa kuye ukuthi iNtshonalanga ingaba kubi nakakhulu. Qaphela futhi ukuthi uChorley uphakamise ukuthi uChomsky wayesebenzisa lezi ziqhathaniso ku vumela Ukuhlasela kweRussia imizuzwana ngemuva kokugxeka kakhulu ukuhlasela ngokuthi 'ubugebengu bempi ngokusobala', 'ubugebengu obubi'.
UChomsky waphendula:
'Vele akunjalo. Ngathi kuyicala elikhulu, kodwa akukho ukufana - lokho wukulandela umugqa weqembu. Nginikeze izibalo. Akukho ukulingana. Mhlawumbe inani lezisulu liphindwe kashumi kunalelo elilinganiselwe. Nokho, lokho kuzokwenza kube njengobugebengu bukaReagan e-El Salvador. Lokho akufani.'
Lokhu kwalandelwa ukuthula okukhulu kukaChorley, okwathi ekugcineni wabona ukuthi uChomsky ubevuma ukuthi akulungile ukukhuluma 'ngokulingana', kodwa hhayi ngenxa yezizathu uChorley ayenazo engqondweni.
I-angle yokuhlasela 'yokulingana nesimilo' - okuhloswe ngokusobala ukuthi kube yiyona nto okugxilwe kuyo kule nhlolokhono - iyisici esivamile sezingxoxo zebhizinisi noChomsky nabanye abaphikisana nabo. Inhloso wukuveza abagxeka inqubomgomo yaseNtshonalanga njengabaxolisi abasontekile ezitheni zaseNtshonalanga. Ngo-2004, inhlolokhono ye-BBC, uJeremy Paxman wamangaza ngokusobala Ubeke amazwana ku-Chomsky:
'Kubukeka sengathi uyaphakamisa, noma usho ukuthi-mhlawumbe angikwenzi kahle kuwe - kodwa ubonakala sengathi uchaza ukuthi kukhona ukulingana phakathi kwezinhloko zezwe ezikhethwe ngentando yeningi njengoGeorge Bush, noma oNdunankulu abafana noTony Blair, kanye nemibuso ezindaweni ezithile. njenge-Iraq.'
Exoxa nowayenguMsizi-Nobhala Jikelele we-UN, uDenis Halliday, enkulumweni yomsakazo we-BBC ngo-2001, uMichael Buerk owayedinwe egane unwabu. wathi:
'Awukwazi...awukwazi kungenzeka ukudweba ukulingana phakathi kukaSaddam Hussein noGeorge Bush Senior, ungakwazi?'
Ngokungenakugwenywa - futhi engakunaki lokho uChomsky ayesanda kukusho ephindelela - uChorley uqhubekela phambili nengxabano ngokungakhathali. Ithuthukile ngokuthandwa kwe-Guardian's George Monbiot:
'Kodwa… Ngicabanga ukuthi, abanye abantu abalalela lokhu bazocabanga ukuthi ufuna izaba okwenziwe nguVladimir Putin.'
Ingxabano inengqondo - uma intatheli ingakwazi ukuxoxa ngobugebengu 'bethu' - ayikwazi ngisho nokucabanga ukuthi ubugebengu 'bethu' bungase bube bubi kakhulu kunabo 'babo' - kodwa ayikwazi ukuphikisa amaqiniso angenakuphikwa abonisa ukuthi kunjalo ngempela, khona-ke Phuma. Ikhadi le-Jail Free liwukuphakamisa ukuthi umuntu owenza lawa maphuzu uyimfihlo ohlangothini lwe-The Bad Guys ngakho-ke akufanele athathwe ngokungathi sína. Ukusuka emaqinisweni uye ezihlosweni kuqondisa ukunaka komphakathi kude namaqiniso. Impendulo ivela ku- Chomsky:
'Cha, lokho kungu-a ukwakha yophiko lwesokudla; Angifuni ukuthethelela lutho. Ngathi ubugebengu bempi obusabekayo; lokho akuthetheleli lutho. Ngikhuluma ngobuzenzisi obedlulele bezicelo zokuthi lokhu kuyinto embi kakhulu eyake yenzeka, uma kuyingxenyana yalokho esikwenzayo ngaso sonke isikhathi. Kungakho iGlobal South ibukele ngokubhuqa njengoba abahlaziyi abaqhoshayo baseNtshonalanga bezama ukubafundisa: “Kungani ningahlanganyeli nathi ekulweni nobugebengu obunyantisayo?” … Bahleka ngokubhuqa: “Yilokho obukwenza kithi kuze kube phakade!”
Kodwa 'kungani i-Ukraine ingakwazi ukujoyina i-Nato?', kubuza uChorley. Impendulo ivela ku- Chomsky:
'Kungenzekani uma iMexico inquma ukujoyina umfelandawonye wezempi wamazwe ngamazwe ophethwe yiShayina, ithumele izikhali ezinzima eMexico eziqondiswe e-United States?… Kuzokwenzekani eMexico? Bekuzoshaywa umoya. Uyakwazi lokho.'
U-Chorley uphinde wabuyela emuva endikimbeni ethi 'equivalence':
'Kodwa-ke uqhathanisa iNato neChina neRussia; ubona ukulingana phakathi…'
Futhi, u-Chomsky wasenqaba isimangalo:
'Cha, angifuni; I-Nato iwumbimbi olunolaka kakhulu. I-Nato ihlasele iYugoslavia, yahlasela iLibya, yahlasela i-Ukraine - yasekela ukuhlasela kwe-Ukraine - yasekela ukuhlasela kwe-Afghanistan. Kuwumfelandawonye wezempi onolaka. Wonke umuntu ongaphandle kweNtshonalanga angayibona. Emazweni aseNtshonalanga, asivunyelwe ukucabanga ngakho ngoba silawulwa ngokujulile ukunamathela emgqeni weqembu. Kodwa bonke abanye bayayibona.'
Kodwa futhi, uChorley wagcizelela itimu eshiwo ukuthi uChomsky wayewuhlobo oluthile lomsekeli kaPutin ozifihlile:
'Kuzwakala kimi njengawe kukhona ethethelela ukuhlasela kwamaRussia e-Ukraine.'
UChorley wabe esebuza ngoJeremy Corbyn. Kamuva wenza ingxenye enkulu yale ngxoxo ku-Twitter, ngokungafanele ukuphakamisa ukuthi lowo okwaxoxwa naye owamzungeza kuzo zonke izindaba wayekhohliswe ngokwanele ukuze akholelwe ukuthi uCorbyn wayelunqobile ukhetho lukazwelonke lwango-2017.
Eqinisweni, lapho uChomsky ethi uCorbyn 'uphumelele ukunqoba okukhulu' ngo-2017, wayeqonde ukukhiqiza 'ukushintshashintsha' okukhulu ekuvuneni Kwabasebenzi naphezu kwengcindezi emangalisayo yangaphakathi nengaphandle. Ngo-2017, i-Independent kubika ukuthi u-Corbyn 'usekhuphule isabelo sabasebenzi sevoti ngaphezu kwanoma yibaphi abanye abaholi bokhetho beqembu kusukela ngo-1945' 'ngokushintshashintsha okukhulu kusukela… ngemva nje kweMpi Yezwe Yesibili'.
Embuzweni wokugcina, omangazayo okhombisa ukuthi wayedelile futhi engenandaba kangakanani phakathi nenhlolokhono, uChorley wabuza:
'Ekugcineni, ake sikuqedele lokhu; ake sizame ukuba nethemba kakhudlwana… Ingabe ikhulunyaka elizayo liyoba ngcono kunelidlule?'
Futhi, kwaba sengathi uChorley akakuzwanga lokho uChomsky ayekushilo. Ngobuqhawe, u-Chomsky ugcine isineke sakhe imizuzwana embalwa:
'Ngeke kube khona impilo yomuntu ehlelekile eminyakeni eyikhulu kusukela manje, ngaphandle uma sihlehlisa inkambo ubuholi obuyithathayo mayelana nokugijima phezu kwentaba yokucekelwa phansi kwesimo sezulu.'
Ngendlela yehlaya elincane lokugcina, uChomsky wanezela:
'Ufunde umbiko wakamuva we-IPCC, ngiqinisekile.'
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