Ngelixa iDemokhrasi Ngoku! ibigubungela iStanding Rock ekuqaleni kwale nyanga, sincokole noWinona LaDuke, itshantliziyo lexesha elide leNative American kunye nomlawuli olawulayo weqela elithi Honor the Earth. Uhlala kwaye usebenza kwiWhite Earth Reservation kumantla eMinnesota. Uchithe iminyaka esilwa ngempumelelo nombhobho weSandpiper, umbhobho ofana noFikelelo lwaseDakota. Sadibana naye kanye ngaphandle kweNkampu yeQhawe eliBomvu, apho aye wamisa itipi yakhe. I-Red Warrior yenye yeenkampu apho amawakawaka abantu bomthonyama baseMelika abamele amakhulu ezizwe ezivela kulo lonke elase-US naseCanada ngoku bechasa ukwakhiwa kombhobho.
NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: Yi le Intando yeninzi Ngoku!, democracynow.org, Ingxelo Yemfazwe Nezoxolo. NdinguAmy Goodman. Ngelixa Intando yeninzi Ngoku! Ebegubungela iStanding Rock ekuqaleni kwale nyanga, kwimpelaveki yoSuku lwezaBasebenzi, sincokole noWinona LaDuke, itshantliziyo lexesha elide laseMelika, umlawuli olawulayo weqela elithi Honor the Earth. Uhlala kwaye usebenza kwiWhite Earth Reservation kumantla eMinnesota. Uchithe iminyaka esilwa ngempumelelo nombhobho ofana neDakota Access, umbhobho weSandpiper. Sadibana naye kanye ngaphandle kweNkampu yeQhawe eliBomvu, apho aye wamisa itipi yakhe. I-Red Warrior yenye yeenkampu apho amawakawaka abantu bomthonyama baseMelika, abamele amakhulu ezizwe ezivela kulo lonke elase-US naseKhanada, ngoku bechasa ukwakhiwa kombhobho. I-tipi yakhe izotywe ngezilwanyana ezisengozini yokutshintsha kwemozulu. Siqale ngokubuza uWinona LaDuke ukuba kutheni uluntu ngoku luqhankqalazela lo mbhobho.
IWINONA LADUKE: Lixesha lokuphelisa iziseko zamafutha efosili. Ndiyathetha, aba bantu bakolu gcino, abanazo iziseko zoncedo ezaneleyo zezindlu zabo. Abanazo iziseko zamandla ezaneleyo. Abanazo iziseko zoncedo ezaneleyo zohola wendlela. Ukanti bajonge kumbhobho we-3.9 yeebhiliyoni zeerandi ongayi kubanceda. Kuya kunceda kuphela iinkampani zeoyile. Yiyo loo nto silapha. Uyazi, silapha ukukhusela lo mhlaba.
NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: Cacisa ukuba kwenzeke ntoni kumbhobho weSandpiper, lowo ubuchasile, lowo ubuchasile.
IWINONA LADUKE: Oko sikuchasileyo, ewe. Ke, iminyaka emine, inkampani yase-Enbridge yathi ifuna ngokupheleleyo umbhobho oza kusuka e-Clearbrook, eMinnesota, ukuya eSuperior, eWisconsin. Leyo yayiyeyona ndlela ibalulekileyo nekuphela kwendlela enokwenzeka. Bacebe indlela entsha kraca eya kuthi ingene kumbindi welona chibi lethu lerayisi yasendle kunye nommandla, inqumle iindawo ezibekelwe bucala, kodwa kumhlaba wesivumelwano sethu. Abazange babonisane nathi, yaye benza iimpazamo ezinzulu kwinkqubo yabo. Babekujongela phantsi oko kwakuza kwenzeka apho.
Kwaye ke, iminyaka emine, siye salwa nabo kwinkqubo yolawulo yaseMinnesota, eyinkqubo eqhubela phambili kwaye isebenza kancinci kunenkqubo yolawulo yaseMntla Dakota, ethi, kwinto endiyibonayo, ayikho. Kwaye kuloo nkqubo, sasizimasa zonke iindibano zengxoxo. Sangenelela ngokusemthethweni. Sakhwela amahashe ethu ngokuchasene nomsinga weoli. Sasinemibhiyozo. Kwaye bawucima umbhobho. Yiloo nto abayenzayo, emva kweminyaka emine, inkcaso eshushu kakhulu ngabemi baseMinnesota, oorhulumente bezizwe, abantu bezizwe, uyazi, kuloo mgca.
Kwaye loo mbhobho, uyazi, ingxaki enkulu-sisenemibhobho emithandathu emantla eMinnesota ukuya eSuperior, elona zibuko likude lelizwe. Kodwa izindululo zabo ezitsha azizukwenzeka apho. U-Enbridge uthe basafuna ukuqhubeka neziphakamiso zabo zomgca wesithathu. Umbhobho wokuqala abawufunayo, bafuna ukuwushiya. Ukuqala kweseti entsha yeengxaki eNyakatho Melika, ukulahlwa kwemibhobho ye-50 yeminyaka ubudala, kungekho ngcaciso elawulayo malunga nokuba ngubani onoxanduva. Kwaye ke siyabachasa kuloo nto, yokuba abanakushiya, kwaye abanako-abanakuyifumana indlela entsha.
Kodwa xa babebhengeza oko, uyazi, kwindawo yam, ngendinokuthi, โHeyi, ithamsanqa, nonke. Sayibetha apha. Nqwenelela impumelelo." Uyazi? Kodwa, hayi, sithe siza kuzilandela apha nazo phandle, kuba siyakholelwa ukubaโuyazi, singachitha ubomi bethu sisilwa imibhobho enye emva komnye, kodwa umntu kufuneka acele umngeni kule ngxaki athi, โ Ayisiyiyo indlela yokuhamba, Melika. Le ayisiyiyo indlela kuye nabani na wethu. โ Ke, siphume apha sizokuxhasa aba bantu.
NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: Ngoko thetha ngawo wonke umntu olapha phandle.
IWINONA LADUKE: Baninzi abantu apha phandle, uyazi? Kuyahlekisa kakhulu, kuba ndiziva ngathi ndifana ne-Standing Rock switchboard, isikhokelo sokuhamba, kwiiveki ezimbini ezidlulileyo. Uyazi, wonke umntu uyandibetha kuFacebook, anditsalele umnxeba: โHeyi, LaDuke, ndifuna ukuyikhupha le nto. Ndafumana iidyasi zasebusika. Uyazi, kufuneka ndenze ntoni?" Ndathi, โOwu, Nkosi yam!โ Uyazi?
Ngoko, abantu abaninzi beza apha, bemanyene. Uyazi, ngoko into endiyaziyo ukuba ilapha phandle inje-uyazi, ndingena apha, kwaye ndibone abantu abasuka e-uyazi, abasuka kwi-Wounded Knee ngo-1973. Ndibabonile abantu endandisebenza nabo besichasa. imigodi ye-uranium eBlack Hills ngeminyaka yee-1970 kunye nee'80s, uyazi, apha phandle. Ndiyathetha, ndilapha ixesha elide. Uyazi, kufana neVeki yeKhaya eliDala apha phandle. Ndibone abantu abavela e-Oklahoma abachasa umbhobho we-Keystone XL, naseNebraska. Kwaye ndibone abantu abavela, uyazi, ngaphandle kwintsimi yethu echasene nemibhobho apha. Usihlalo wesizwe saseFond du Lac ulapha, kwaye, uyazi, inkitha yabantu bomthonyama kunye nabangengabo abomthonyama. Kwaye baninzi abantu abangakholelwa ukuba oku kufanele ukuba kwenzeke kwakhona kweli lizwe, abazimisele kakhulu ukuzibeka emgceni, abantu abangengawo amaNdiya, uyazi, kunye namalungu ezizwe, kwaye balapha. . Kwaye yindawo entle yokuzikhusela.
NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: Kubantu ababukeleyo eNew York naseLouisiana, eKhalifoniya naseIndiya, eTshayina naseMzantsi Afrika, kutheni le nto ibalulekile kubo?
IWINONA LADUKE: Oku kubalulekile kuba lixesha lokuhamba kumafutha efosili. Uyazi, eli lidabi elifanayo abanalo kuyo yonke indawo. Uyazi, suku ngalunye okanye iveki nganye, kukho ukuvuza okutsha, kukho intlekele entsha kwishishini leefosili, kunye nentlekele eqhubekayo nekhulayo yokutshintsha kwemozulu. Inyani yokuba akukho mvula eSyria inento yokwenza ngqo nezi nkampani zamafutha efosili. Uyazi, zonke iintlekele ezenzekayo kwenye indawo emhlabeni zinento yokwenza nento yokuba uMntla Merika ulungisa ngokutsha iziseko zophuhliso kwaye ulandela eyona oli imdaka emhlabeniโioli yetar neoli ephuma kuMntla Dakota, i-oyile eqhekekileyoโkunokubaโuyazi, bebesebenza neVenezuelaโikwanento yokwenza nokutyumza iVenezuela, kuba iVenezuela inowona vimba weoli mkhulu ehlabathini. Kwaye kunokuba benze ishishini kunye neVenezuela, babophe kwaye bazimisele ukuthatha ioli kwiindawo ezingafuni ukuyiyeka, kwaye benze le siseko esingcolileyo. Ngoko ke, le carbon-le oli inzima kakhulu kwikhabhoni kwaye iya kongeza amakhulu ezigidi zeetoni ze-CO2 kwindalo, ukuba le mibhobho ivunyelwe. Ke, oko kukuthi-uyazi, ichaphazela wonke umntu.
NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: Ngoku, ezinye izizwe zezombhobho. Ungaluchaza ulwahlulo?
IWINONA LADUKE: Uyazi, andazi ukuba ndingatsho ukuba ezinye izizwe ziyiyo. Ndingathi eminye imidla kwilizwe laseIndiya ibiyeyombhobho. Ndiyathetha, ngokwembali, i-Three Affiliated Tribes sisizwe esivelisa ioli, kodwa behla apha ukuxhasa inkcaso kwipayipi. Behla apho. Ibhunga labo lonke lesizwe lehla apha kwiintsuku ezimbalwa ezidlulileyo. Uyazi, kodwa inyani kukuba, uyazi, ezinye izizwe ziye zanyanzeliswa ukuba zivelise amafutha efosili. Amashumi asibhozo anesihlanu eepesenti kuqoqosho lweNavajo, umzekelo, lusekwe kwi-fossil. Malunga nepesenteji efanayo yezoqoqosho Fort Berthold i fossil fuel-based.
Ke, uyazi, ukunika umfanekiso omncinci wembali: Uphuma apha kunye ne-smallpox yakho, kwaye ucime i-95 yepesenti yabantu, abantu baseMandan, baseHidatsa nase-Arikara, ekuqaleni kwee-1800s. Bahlala ecaleni kwezi lali, uyazi, bezama nje ukuhlala apho. Uze uphume apha, uze uwakhukulise umhlaba wabo. Kwaye izityalo zezolimo abazivelisayo ngoku zezeMonsanto kunye neSyngenta njengeentlobo zentengiso ezizenzileyo. Kunene? Kwaye ke ulapha eMntla Dakota, kwaye wonke umntu elizweni ubhabha phezu koMntla Dakota ajonge ezantsi athi, โKe, nguMntla Dakota lowo.โ Akukho mntu uphuma apha. Kwaye ke izinto ziyaqhubeka apha ngaphandle ikhulu leminyaka, apho aba bantu baphathwa njengabemi bodidi lwesithathu, uyazi, apho bengenamanzi aphuma ezindlwini zabo, kwaye banenkampani yeoli ephuma apha. Kwaye unamazinga aphezulu okuxhatshazwa kunye nobundlobongela obubhekiselele kwabasetyhini kunye nabantwana, kwaye ikhawuleza kwaye inyuke kwiindawo zeoli, ude ube nobhubhani weziyobisi, ngoku obetha olu luntu. Olu luntu alufumani nzuzo kwioli, kodwa i-meth kunye ne-heroin ephuma kuloo mimandla ilapha, uyazi? Ngokuba abo bathengisi beza apha, baze babona aba bantu baseIndiya, baza bathi, โKe, sizakuya phaya.โ Kwaye ke olu gcino lugcwele kuyo. Uyazi? Uze uthi, uyazi, kwesi sizwe siphaya phezulu, i Bia usika amaxabiso angasemva kwendlu kwaye aqalise ukutsalwa kwe-oyile. Kwaye ngoko ke wena-
NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: I-Bureau yeMicimbi yaseIndiya.
IWINONA LADUKE: I-Bureau yeMicimbi yaseIndiya. Uze ugqibele sele uneoliโuphela sele unezinto onazo nongenazo kwiindawo zeoli. Kwaye ugqibela ngokuba nesizwe esinengeniso yeoli ngoku ingenayo. Kwaye bajonga phaya phandle, ngokungafihlisiyo, bathi, โUyazi? Izinto khange zisihambele kakuhle, ke siza kutyikitya ezinye zezi ngqeshiso, kuba, emva kwayo yonke loo nto, uyazi, akukho nto yakha yasihambela kakuhle. Kwaye ke, siza kufumana imali encinci. โ Kwaye yindlela ofumana ngayo-uyazi, unyanzela abantu ukuba bangene kuloo nto, bephethe umpu entloko, baze bagqibe ngokutshabalalisa umhlaba wabo, uyazi, okwenzekayo phaya phezulu kolu gcino. Kwaye babe nophando olukhulu urhwaphilizo kubunkokeli. Kodwa, uyazi, uyabanyanzela abantu abahluphekayo. Unyanzela abantu kuloo meko, kwaye eso siqhwithi esigqibeleleyo.
NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: Uthethile kwaye wabhala malunga nabemi bomthonyama baseMelika PTSD, i-post-traumatic stress syndrome.
IWINONA LADUKE: Ewe, siyaqhubeka; Khange ndiyigqibe, ndisenayo. Uyazi, uthi "Enbridge," kwaye ndifumana le nto ifana nentsokolo, uyazi, kwaye ngenxa yokuba iimfazwe zamaNdiya zikude le ngaphandle. Kodwa, uyazi, into oyifumanayo kumothuko wezizukulwana, yinto eyaziwa ngokuba yimbali yokwenzakala. Kwaye abanye abantu banayo. Kodwa unenkumbulo yemfuza, yaye ukhangela phaya phandle, yaye ubonaโyonke imihla uvuka, uze ubone ukuba umhlaba wakho wawukhukulisekile. Kwaye laa ntambo yamandla inkulu ihamba kulo mhlaba, ayikuncedi nganto. Kusafunekaโuyazi, yonke into elapha phandle yenziwe ngeendleko zakho, kodwa kusafuneka uyihlawulele. Kwaye yonke imihla uphuma phandle, kwaye abanye-uyazi, unomqobo wendlela, obekwe ngabantu abamhlophe, besiza kwindawo yakho yogcino. Kwaye yonke imihla uphuma phaya, kwaye ujonge ezindlwini zakho, kwaye ubone ukuba uneziseko eziwohlokayo, kwaye akukho mntu ukukhathaleleyo. Kwaye unobhubhani we-meth, kwaye unamazinga aphezulu okuzibulala elizweni, kodwa akukho mntu uhoyayo. Uyazi, kwaye ke uzama nje ukusinda. Nantso into ozama ukuyenza. Njengama-90 ekhulwini oluntu lwam, ngokubanzi, ndingathi, uzama nje ukusinda.
Uyazi, ndithetha, kwindawo endihlala kuyo, sinerayisi. Sisenayo irayisi yethu yasendle. Kwaye sinokuhamba, kwaye sinokuvuna irayisi yasendle. Kwaye sinokuba ngabantu baka-Anishinaabe. Uyazi, sisengaphila ngomhlaba wethu. Uyazi, aba bantu banexesha elinzima kakhulu lokuphila ngomhlaba wabo. Iinyathi zatshatyalaliswa, uyazi? Kodwa kulo nyaka kukuma kwabo. Oku kukuma kwabo. Banethuba lokuba kungabikho enye into embi eyenzeka kubo. Kwaye ngokwembono yam, imbono yam kukuba, i-3.9 yeebhiliyoni zeedola, aba bafana abafuni mbhobho. Into abayifunayo yilanga. Into abayifunayo ngumoya. Jonga lo moya. Uyazi, into abayidingayo-bafana neklasi yesi-7 ngaphandle apha. Into abayifunayo yilanga kuzo zonke izindlu zabo, i-solar thermal. Bafuna izindlu ezisebenzela abantu. Bafuna ubulungisa bamandla. Eli lithuba, eMelika, lokuthi, โJonga, olu luntu aludingi mbhobho. Eyona nto ifunwa luluntu kukuzimela ngamandla kokwenyani. " Babiza le nkululeko yokuzimela, uyazi, ukugxotha umbhobho phantsi komqala wabantu, ukuze iinkampani zeoli zaseCanada zizuze, kwaye, uyazi, iqela labantu lingakwazi-ihlabathi linokuba libi kakhulu. Oko akuko ukuzimela kwamandla. Ukuzimela kwamandla kuxa unelanga. Ukuzimela kwamandla kuxa unomoya. Ukuzimela kwamandla kuxa unolawulo oluthile kwikamva lakho. Yiloo nto abayifunayo aba bantu.
NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: YayinguWinona LaDuke, itshantliziyo lexesha elide lase-Anishinaabe elivela kwi-White Earth Reservation kumantla eMinnesota.
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