Izigidi zabantu abakhulelweyo eUnited States ngoku ziye zaphulukana nelungelo lokuqhomfa kwilizwe labo ukususela oko iNkundla Ephakamileyo yatshitshisa uRoe v. Wade. Imithetho echasene nokuqhomfa iqale ukusebenza kumazwe amaninzi kwilizwe liphela, kubandakanya neTexas, apho kuye kwaba sisenzo esibi ukuqhomfa ukuqala ngoLwesine, sigwetywe ubomi bonke entolongweni. Sithetha noDkt Bhavik Kumar, umnikezeli we-abortion waseTexas, kunye noMini Timmaraju, umongameli we-NARAL Pro-Choice America, malunga nendlela oogqirha abahamba ngayo kwindawo yomthetho emva kokuphela kukaRoe v. Wade. “Into endiyibonileyo kule minyaka isixhenxe idlulileyo yokubonelela ngokhathalelo lokuqhomfa eTexas kukuba ezopolitiko zifumene indlela yokungena kwigumbi lam lovavanyo, kwiziko lam lezempilo. Ifakwe kuyo yonke into endiyenzayo njengomboneleli wezempilo, ”utshilo uKumar, owongeza ukuba abezopolitiko abagcinayo bahlasele zombini ukuqhomfa kunye nonyango lwezempilo ngeendlela ezifanayo. Kwangaxeshanye, uTimmaraju uthi kwanemithetho echasene nokuqhomfa evumela ukuqhomfa phantsi kweemeko ezinzima ithoba ukuzimela geqe ngokushiya ubomi ezandleni zeqela leejaji okanye abasebenzi basesibhedlele. “Yindlela enganyamezelekiyo kwaphela yokulawula ukhathalelo lwempilo yokuzala kweli lizwe,” utshilo.
UAMY KUHLE: Yi le Intando yeninzi Ngoku!, democracynow.org, Ingxelo Yemfazwe Nezoxolo. Ndingu-Amy Goodman, noJuan González.
Sichitha iyure yonke sijonge indlela izigidi zabantu abakhulelweyo e-United States ngoku baphulukene nokufikelela ekukhupheni isisu kwilizwe labo ukusukela oko iNkundla ePhakamileyo yatshitshiswa. Roe v. Wade. IWashington Post Iingxelo oku kubandakanya ubuncinane ibhinqa elinye kwabathathu.
Ngeli xesha, izithintelo ezininzi ziyaphunyezwa kurhulumente emva korhulumente. Kule veki kuphela, i-anti-abortion "imithetho ye-trigger" iqale ukusebenza eTexas, eTennessee nase-Idaho, kwaye ngoMgqibelo, i-Oklahoma iya konyusa izohlwayo koogqirha abakhupha izisu ngokungekho mthethweni kubantu abakhulelweyo ukuba babandakanye isohlwayo se-100,000 yeedola kunye ukuya kuthi ga kwiminyaka eli-10 entolongweni. . Umthetho waseTexas ochasene nokuqhomfa oqale ukusebenza ngoLwesine wenza ukuba kube sisenzo esigwenxa ukuqhomfa, ukwahlwaywa ngesohlwayo se-100,000 yeedola ukuya kubomi bonke entolongweni. Umthetho we-trigger ofana nowaseTennessee awukho ngaphandle kodlwengulo, umbulo okanye i-fetal anomalies ebulalayo.
Ngeli xesha, umthetho wokuqalisa ukusebenza namhlanje kuMntla Dakota uvaliwe ngoLwesine kwinkundla yamatyala xa ijaji inike isithintelo sokuqala ngokuchasene nenqanaba elenza ukuba kube sisenzo esigwenxa sokukhupha isisu ngaphandle kokudlwengulwa, ukuzalana okanye ukungxamiseka kwezonyango.
Ukufikelela kokuqhomfa ngoku kungumba ophambili kunyulo lwaphakathi konyaka wama-2022. Amazwe amaninzi anika ingxelo yokwanda kwabasetyhini ababhalisela ukuvota. Lo nguMongameli uBiden eqalisa iphulo lakhe laphakathi kwekota ngoLwesine ebusuku eMaryland.
UMONGAMELI JOE BIDEN: Ke, zigqithise kangakanani ezi Republicans ze-MAGA? Jonga nje ukuba kwenzeka ntoni ukusukela oko iNkundla ePhakamileyo yabhukuqa Roe v. Wade. Kwimeko ebomvu emva kwemeko ebomvu, kukho ugqatso lokudlula eyona mida ithintelweyo yokuqhomfa onokuyicingela, ngaphandle kokukhetha udlwengulo okanye umbulo. Kodwa ezi Republican ze-MAGA aziyi kuphelela apho. Bafuna ukuvalwa umlomo. Bafuna ukudlulisa ukuvalwa komthetho kuzwelonke kwiCongress. Ukuba iiRiphabhlikhi ze-MAGA ziphumelela ukulawula iNkongolo, akunamsebenzi ukuba uhlala phi: Abasetyhini abayi kuba nelungelo lokukhetha naphi na. Naphi na. Makhe ndikuxelele into: Ukuba bayayibuyisela kwaye bazama ukuyidlulisa, ndiya kuyivala.
UAMY KUHLE: Oku kuza njengoko umtyunjwa we-Arizona's Republican Senate, u-capital we-Blake Masters, ngoku ujongela phantsi inkxaso yakhe kumthetho "wobuntu" njengoko ezama ukucela umngeni kwiSenator yeDemocratic Alliance uMark Kelly ngoNovemba. Kule veki, iphulo leMasters lithe cwaka liyilungisile iwebhusayithi yakhe, liyicoca kwiimbono zakhe ezininzi ezichasene nokuqhomfa.
Kwiveki ephelileyo, ummeli weRiphabhlikhi yaseSouth Carolina uNeal Collins uthe uphinda acinge ngenkxaso yakhe kwityala lakhe elibizwa ngokuba yi-feetal heartbeat bill emva kokuva ukuba ikhokelele njani ekubeni omnye wabavoti bakhe banqatshelwe ukhathalelo lokuqhomfa ngenxa yosana olungekazalwa ngenxa yokuba lufuna ukuba alinde. de ukubetha kwentliziyo kwakungasabonakali. UCollins uthethe phambi kweKomiti yezoBulungisa yeNdlu yaseMzantsi Carolina.
REP. UNEAL COLLINS: Intombazana eneminyaka eli-19 ubudala yavela e-ER. Wayeneeveki ezili-15 ekhulelwe. Amanzi akhe aqhawuka. Kwaye i-fetus yayingakhuselekanga. … Amagqwetha axelela oogqirha ukuba ngenxa yetyala lokubetha kwentliziyo yosana, ngenxa yokuba umntwana oneveki ezili-15 ubudala wayenentliziyo ebethayo, oogqirha babengakwazi ukukhupha. … Kukho amathuba angama-50% — angaphezu kwama-50% amathuba okuba aphulukane nesibeleko sakhe. Kukho ithuba le-10% lokuba aphuhlise i-sepsis kwaye naye afe. Oko kuyandisinda. Ndivotele elo tyala.
UAMY KUHLE: Ummeli welizwe uCollins wayengomnye wabantu abathathu baseRiphabhlikhi abangazange bavote kulo mlinganiso, othe wadlula kwimigca yeqela kwikomiti kwaye umiselwe ingxoxo yomgangatho ngoLwesithathu.
Kongeziweyo, sidityaniswe ziindwendwe ezimbini. E-Texas, uGqr. Bhavik Kumar unathi, umlawuli wezonyango kwi-primary and trans care kwi-Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast e-Houston, usihlalo-sihlalo weKomiti yokuKhusela i-Health Care's Reproductive Freedom Task Force. Kwaye ePhiladelphia, uMini Timmaraju ukunye nathi. Ungumongameli weNARAL Pro-Choice America.
Siyakwamkela ku Intando yeninzi Ngoku! Ndimele ndongeze, uMini Timmaraju, ukuba namhlanje kwakhona isikhumbuzo se-102 se-19th Amendment, eyanika abafazi ilungelo lokuvota. Xa ujonga okwenzekayo kweli lizwe, ndithetha into yokuba amanina — abavoti abatsha ababhinqileyo bagqugqisa kulo lonke eli ngoku, kukhangeleka ngathi iwatshintshile amathuba onyulo lwaphakathi ekota. Ngaba ungathetha malunga nento eyenzekileyo kule veki kunye nokuvalwa kwe-trigger emva kokuvalwa kwe-trigger?
MINI TIMMARAJU: Enkosi kakhulu ngokuba nam, Amy.
Kwaye, uyazi, ukuvalwa kwe-trigger kuyingozi. Ziyoyikeka. Kubalulekile ukuqaphela, nangona kunjalo, kuninzi lwala mazwe, njengoko ezi zithintelo zokuqalisa zisiza, ezi ziindawo esele zidlulile izithintelo ezoyikisayo, kubandakanya iTexas, apho iqabane lam uGqr. Kumar akhoyo. Ndiyathetha, jonga, sele sinokuvalwa kweeveki ezintandathu esishiywe ukuba sime kwiNkundla ePhakamileyo kunye nenkqubo yokunyanzeliswa kwe-vigilante kunye nezohlwayo ezibi kunye nezohlwayo eTexas ukusukela kulo nyaka uphelileyo. Ke, i-Texans ibiphila phantsi kobusuku obubi kangangexesha elide. Ngoku, wongeza amanye amazwe uwakhankanyileyo-uyazi, Idaho, Oklahoma, Tennessee - yintuthuzelo encinci ukuba sinezithintelo ezilinganiselweyo ngoku ziinkundla. Ziindaba ezimnandi ukuba inkundla wabetha North Dakota trigger ban, okanye ubuncinane ibambe i - beka injunction.
Kodwa ndifuna ukuqaphela into malunga neNyakatho yeDakota kunye nemeko ye-dystopian kweli lizwe. Iklinikhi enye yokuqhomfa kuMntla Dakota ekhoyo sele inqumle imigca yaza yafudukela eMinnesota, kuba bayaqonda ukuba abanakukwazi ukubonelela ngononophelo lwezempilo kuMntla Dakota ngayo yonke into eyenzekayo. Ke, nangona inkundla ibeke isithintelo kweso sithintelo, akukho ukufikelela kokuqhomfa kuMntla Dakota.
Leyo yinkangeleko yomhlaba sithetha ngayo. Sithetha malunga nabasetyhini kunye nabantu abakhulelweyo ukuba bahambe amakhulu amawaka eekhilomitha ukuze bafikelele kukhathalelo, oomama abasebenzayo, abantu abanabantwana abasele benabo - uninzi lwabantu abafuna ukhathalelo lokukhupha isisu sele benabantwana - kufuneka bafumanise ukuba bangalufumana njani ukhathalelo lwabantwana. , indlela yokufumana irhasi, indlela yokufumana isithuthi, indlela yokuthatha iintsuku ezithile emsebenzini, ukuze nje ube nokufikelela koko kufanele ukuba lilungelo elisisiseko, elisisiseko labantu abaye baqinisekisa ngalo phantse iminyaka engama-50 kweli lizwe. Ngoko, akukho nto imfutshane eyoyikisayo. Kwaye ndiyazi umlingane wam uza kukwazi ukukuxelela okuninzi malunga nokuba kwenzeka ntoni emhlabeni.
UJUAN GONZÁLEZ: Ewe, Mini Timmaraju, bendifuna ukukubuza malunga namanye amatyala aphezulu asele efikile eluntwini. Ezinye zazo zipholile ngokwenene.
MINI TIMMARAJU: Ewe.
UJUAN GONZÁLEZ: Kwakukho iBaton Rouge, eLouisiana, umhlali owayeneeveki ezili-10 ekhulelwe, wanqatshelwa ukukhupha isisu kwisibhedlele saseLouisiana, nangona i-ultrasound yabonisa ukuba umntwana wakhe okhulelweyo wayekhula ngaphandle kokakayi. Imeko, eyaziwa ngokuba yi-acrania, ayibonakali kuluhlu lweemeko ezamkelweyo zokuqhomfa eLouisiana. EFlorida, kwakukho inkedama eneminyaka eli-16 ubudala eyayalelwa ukuba ithwale ukukhulelwa kwayo de kube sekupheleni, emva kokuba iye yabongoza inkundla ukuba ifumane ilungelo lokuqhomfa, inikela ubungqina bokuba, ngokucaphula, “yayingekakulungeli ukuba nomntwana.” Kodwa igqiza leejaji ezintathu lisikhabile eso sicelo, lisithi intombazana “ayikasifumani… La matyala, njengokuba ebonakala ngakumbi nangakumbi eluntwini, ulindele ukuba kwenzeke ntoni?
MINI TIMMARAJU: Ke, ndicinga ukuba zimbini iimpendulo eziphambili endinazo kule nto. Kwaye enkosi ngokubuza lo mbuzo. Enye, abameli bebethetha ngala matyala amashumi eminyaka kwiiRiphabhlikhi ezineengcwangu kula mazwe. Ke, udlale ikliphu yelungu lowiso-mthetho laseMzantsi Carolina libambe othukile ngokupheleleyo ngeziphumo zezenzo zakhe ezixhasa ibhili eyingxaki ngokwenene kunye nokuvalwa. Oku kwenzeka ngokuvalwa kokuqhomfa. Kwaye sibone amashumi eminyaka yezithintelo ekujoliswe kuzo ngokuchasene nabanikezeli bokuqhomfa kulo lonke ilizwe, uninzi lwamazwe kweli lizwe sele lubeke ukhathalelo lokuqhomfa kwindawo ekungafikelelekiyo kuninzi lwabantu basemaphandleni, abantu bemibala, abantu abangenazo iindlela, ngenxa yokuvalwa umlomo. kwinkxaso-mali yokuqhomfa. Ngoko ke, kubaluleke ngokwenene ukuqonda, la mabali oyikekayo aza eluntwini sele esenzeka kwiindawo ezininzi zelizwe.
Elinye inqaku endifuna ukulenza seso sizathu sokuba kuthintelwe - ukuvalwa ngokupheleleyo kuyingxaki, kodwa le nto ikwabangela ukuba ugqithise nje ukuvalwa kwaye ukongeza ngaphandle akusebenzi. Kunene? Usandul’ ukuthetha ngendlela igqiza labagwebi abathathu bekufuneka benze isigqibo senkqubo yokusindisa ubomi komama kunye nemeko yakhe, akunjalo? Ngaba ufuna iiphaneli zeejaji ezintathu nabalawuli bezibhedlele abenza izigqibo kumatyala obomi nokufa? Yindlela enganyamezelekiyo kwaphela yokulawula ukhathalelo lwempilo yokuzala kweli lizwe. Kwaye ngokuqwalasela indlela ukukhulelwa okubuhlungu kunye nokuyingozi ngayo - lelona xesha liyingozi kakhulu kubasetyhini abaninzi ebomini babo, ukukhulelwa - ngaba ngokwenene kufuneka silinde iiveki ngeeveki kwaye sicele abawi-mthetho, iiphaneli, abalawuli ukuba benze ezi zigqibo zisindisa ubomi?
Ngoko ke, ezi meko ziye zanda zoyikekayo. Into oyibonileyo kwiiveki ezimbalwa ezidlulileyo eKansas luphawu lwento ecingwa luluntu lwaseMelika ngezi zithintelo. Yaye xa bebuzwa ngokuthe ngqo indlela abavakalelwa ngayo ngayo, bacace gca: Abamfuni urhulumente kwishishini labo, abalufuni olu kuvalwa kunye nemiqathango, yaye bakulungele ukuzilwela.
UAMY KUHLE: UGqr. Bhavik Kumar, useTexas, kwaye ungugqirha. Umthetho wokuqhomfa osandul’ ukusebenza wenza kube lulwaphulo-mthetho kuwe ukuqhomfa. Ujongene nesohlwayo se-100,000 yeedola kunye nobomi entolongweni. Impendulo yakho?
UGqr. BHAVIK KUMAR: Ewe, ngoku sesi sithintelo sesithathu sokuqhomfa ukusukela ekubhukuqweni kwe Dobbs. Kwaye njengoko uMini watshoyo, iTexas ibikwisithuba-ibhadi kwihlabathi phantse unyaka ngoku, kunye noMthetho osaYilwayo weSenethi 8. Ngoko ke, ngokwenyani, apha emhlabeni, oku akutshintshi nto. Ukuqhomfa bekungafumaneki eTexas kangangexesha elithile ngoku, kwaye kusaqhubeka nokungafikeleleki, okuthetha ukuba abantu abazama ukufikelela kukhathalelo, nokuba kukuqhomfa, abantu abaphunyelwa sisisu, abantu abakhulelweyo abafunayo. engalunganga, okanye abantu abane-ectopic pregnancy, banokungakwazi ukufumana ukhathalelo olufunekayo. Kwaye sibona into efanayo idlala kwamanye amazwe amaninzi.
Yintoni ebalulekileyo ukuba uyiqaphele apha ngalo mthetho wokubangela - njengoko ubutshilo, unezohlwayo zobomi entolongweni, izohlwayo ze-100,000 yeedola - kukuba yongeza elinye ilitye, obunye ubunzima emagxeni ababoneleli bezempilo njengoko bezama ukuzulazula oko banako kwaye banako. 'Ukwenza, cinga malunga nokuba ngubani ekufuneka baqhagamshelane naye, nokuba ngamagqwetha esibhedlele okanye kwigumbi likaxakeka, qhagamshelana nekomiti yeenqobo zokuziphatha. Kwaye njengomboneleli wezempilo, njengogqirha, xa ndicinga ngokukhathalela isigulana, into yokugqibela ekufuneka ndicinga ngayo kukuba leliphi igqwetha ekufuneka ndilibuze, nguwuphi umthetho ekufuneka ndiwuqwalasele, zithini izohlwayo. , njengoko ndihamba ngeendlela ezikhethiweyo kunye nesigulane.
Into endiyibonileyo kule minyaka isixhenxe idlulileyo yokubonelela ngokhathalelo lokuqhomfa eTexas kukuba ezopolitiko zifumene indlela yokungena kwigumbi lam lovavanyo, kwiziko lam lezempilo. Yiyo, uyazi, ifake indlela yayo kuyo yonke into endiyenzayo njengomboneleli wezempilo. Kwaye ngokwenene akulunganga, kuba abantu bayabandezeleka. Sive amabali aliqela asuka eMzantsi Carolina, asuka eOhio nakwezinye iindawo, eLouisiana, malunga nokwenzeka kwabanye abantu. Kodwa la ngamabali esiwava yonke imihla. Kukho amakhulu, okanye amawaka, abantu abahlelwa zizinto ezifanayo. Kwaye ndinexhala lokuba izinto ziya kuqhubeka ziba mandundu xa singenzi nto kwaye sibavotele aba bantu.
UJUAN GONZÁLEZ: Kwaye, Gqirha Kumar, ukhankanye ukuba kufuneka udibane namagqwetha. Ngale miqathango mitsha, yintoni egqalwa njengokunceda nokuthintela ukuqhomfa? Ngaba oko kucacile ngokusemthethweni?
UGqr. BHAVIK KUMAR: Akunjalo. Kwakhona, le mithetho ipasiswa ngabezopolitiko abangaboneleli ngezempilo. Ke, nokuba luncedo kwaye luncedo, nokuba ngaba ezi ngaphandle zingacacanga kwiimeko zikaxakeka zonyango, ezi azichazwanga kakuhle. Kwaye sibona oko kudlala, apho kukho isiphithiphithi, kwaye kukho ukubhideka, kwaye kukho le mpembelelo ipholileyo apho abantu, nokuba banikezela ngolwazi, njengemali yokukhupha isisu, okanye oogqirha okanye abongikazi abazama ukukhathalela izigulane xa ifika kwiimeko ezingxamisekileyo zonyango, ayichazwanga kakuhle. Ke iiklinikhi kunye nezibhedlele endaweni yoko zishiywe ukuba zibone into abanokuyenza nabangakwaziyo ukuyenza, kwaye bafumanise ukuba ungakanani umngcipheko abafuna ukuwuthatha. Kwaye kwakhona, oko akulunganga nje. Kukho abantu abazama ukufumana ukhathalelo, bezama ukufumana ulwazi, kwaye baluhlobo oluthile kule limbo lokungaqinisekanga ukuba benze ntoni, babuze ntoni, bathini nabangakwaziyo ukuthetha. Kwaye ezi zinto ziqala ukuhluka ngokweklinikhi, ngokwelizwe. Kwaye kwakhona, akulunganga ngokwenene, kuba abantu bayabandezeleka okwangoku.
UAMY KUHLE: Ngoko ke, uGqr. Bhavik Kumar, cacisa kakhulu. Ndithetha ukuthi, ukuPlanned Parenthood eHouston, eTexas. Ingaba ijongeka kanjani? Ijongeka njani iTexas ngoku, xa kufikwa ekuzameni ukufikelela kukhathalelo lokuzala? Zingaphi iikliniki ezivaliweyo? Ndiya kuthetha, wenza ntoni? Ngaba wawukhe wakhupha izisu ngaphambili, kwaye awukwenzi ngoku?
UGqr. BHAVIK KUMAR: Ewe, ngokupheleleyo. Xa sasikwazi, sasinikela uncedo lokuqhomfa. Ke, phambi kokuba umThetho oYilwayo wesi-8 usebenze, owawumalunga nonyaka odlulileyo, sinokubonelela ngokhathalelo lokuqhomfa ukuya kutsho kumda osemthethweni. Ke, uninzi lwabantu esinokuthi sibabone bekufanelekele ukuqhomfa apha kurhulumente, kufutshane nalapho bahlala khona. Kakade ke, kwakukho imiqobo emininzi eyayisele ikwiincwadi, yaye ke ngoko imeko yayingeyomfuneko. Abantu bekusafuneka balinde ubuncinci iiyure ezingama-24, badlule eminye imiqobo ukuze bafumane ukhathalelo abaludingayo. Abantu babengavumelekanga ukusebenzisa i-inshurensi yabo. Kodwa okoko umThetho oYilwayo wesi-8 waqalisa ukusebenza, kwaye, ewe, kwiinyanga ezimbini ezidlulileyo ngoku kuthintelwe kathathu ukuqhomfa, namhlanje andivumelekanga ngokuyimfuneko ukuba ndibonelele ngokhathalelo lokuqhomfa kuye nabani na ukuba kukho ukukhulelwa okunokwenzeka. Kwaye kuyafana nakubantu abakhoyo kwigumbi likaxakeka. Ngoku, siyakwazi ukubona abantu ngaphambi kokuqhomfa. Ngoko ke, ukuba bafuna i-ultrasound, ukuba bafuna naluphi na uhlobo lomsebenzi wegazi, sinokubonelela oko. Kwaye ke, kubantu abakhuphe isisu kwelinye ilizwe, sisakwazi ukubabona ukuze silandele ukhathalelo.
Kubalulekile ukuqaphela ukuba abantu bahamba ngaphandle kwelizwe. Kwaye yiloo nto eyenzekayo eTexas kwaye malunga ne-16 ithi apho kukho ukuvalwa kokuqhomfa okusebenzayo. Kwaye abantu bahamba ngamanye amaxesha amakhulu, ukuba ayingawo amawaka eemayile, okuthetha ukuba ixesha lokungabikho emsebenzini, ukufumana ukhathalelo lwabantwana, ukukhangela imisebenzi emininzi abanokuba nayo. Kwaye, ewe, kukho abanye abantu abangakwaziyo ukuhamba. Ndibone abantu abangabhalwanga phantsi kwaye bathi, "Andinakubeka emngciphekweni umntu ofumanisa imeko yam yoxwebhu okanye usapho lwam lugxothwe." Ndibone abantu ababotshelelwe kumaqabane axhaphazayo, athi kum, “Bekunzima kum ukuba ndide ndifike ekliniki apha namhlanje, emalunga neekhilomitha ezintlanu, ezili-10 kude. Andikwazi ukuya kwelinye ilizwe.” Kwaye ngamanye amaxesha andazi ukuba kwenzeka ntoni kwaba bantu. Bayakwazi ukuya kwelinye ilizwe ukuze bafumane ukhathalelo abaludingayo, okanye banyanzeleke ukuba bahlale bekhulelwe. Kwaye oku akulunganga, akukho sikweni. Benza izigqibo ezifanelekileyo malunga noko kubalungeleyo. Bayazi ukuba abanakukhulelwa. Bayazi ukuba eli asiloxesha lifanelekileyo lokuba babe ngabazali. Kwaye endaweni yoko, bashiywe bengenandlela yimbi. Kwaye oko kube yinyani phantse unyaka ngoku eTexas.
UJUAN GONZÁLEZ: Kwaye, uGqr. Kumar, ukususela ekubhukuqweni kwe Roe v. Wade, kwaye, e-Texas, SB 8, injani imo yezulu malunga nokuxhatshazwa ngamatsha-ntliziyo achasene nokuqhomfa kunye nobundlobongela obunokubakho kubaboneleli bezempilo?
UGqr. BHAVIK KUMAR: Ewe, ukuxhatshazwa kwaye, ngokungafihlisiyo, ubugrogrisi esibubonayo phakathi kwabantu abachasene nokuqhomfa sele bukhona kangangexesha elithile, kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo buhleli bukhona. Nangona singanikezeli ngokhathalelo lokuqhomfa ngoku eTexas, sisenabaqhankqalazi abahlukumeza abasebenzi, behlukumeza abaguli abazama ukufikelela kolunye ukhathalelo, nokuba lukhathalelo losapho, olufana nokuthintela ukukhawula, okanye uvavanyo lwe-STI, okanye besiza nje ukuza kufuna ibele. kunye nokuhlolwa komhlaza womlomo wesibeleko. Bahlukumeza wonke umntu ongena ekliniki yethu.
Kukwabalulekile ukuqaphela ukuba aba bagrogrisi bangaphandle kwekliniki yethu banxibelelene kakhulu nabezopolitiko abawisa le mithetho echasene nokuqhomfa. Yintshukumo enye, engamiliselwanga kwimpilo-ntle yezigulana zethu, kwintlalontle yeTexans kunye nabantu abazama ukufikelela kukhathalelo lokuzala. Kwaye kufuneka kume. Kudala siyithetha lento. Besisoloko sixelela abezopolitiko ngobubi obuyakwenzeka ukuba siyayipasisa le mithetho. Uyazi, kuyadinisa, njengogqirha, ukuxelela abantu abangengobasebenzi bezonyango ngobu bubi, malunga nezinto ezenziwa zezi zenzo zobundlobongela, nokuba bubundlobongela obuthe ngqo ebantwini okanye bubundlobongela obukule mithetho yocalucalulo nocalucalulo. Kodwa abamamelanga, kwaye, ngelishwa, bayayibona imiphumo yezi zinto ngoku. Ke, kwakhona, ngenene, ndifuna ukubiza abantu ukuba bathathe inyathelo. Sibe nempumelelo ethile eKansas, kwaye ndiyathemba ukuba siza kubona impumelelo efanayo ngoNovemba.
UAMY KUHLE: Ndikwafuna, ngokukhawuleza kakhulu, ukukubuza, uGqr. Bhavik Kumar, malunga nesigwebo senkundla yezibheno echasene nomthetho wase-Arkansas ovala ukhathalelo lwezonyango oluqinisekisa ngokwesini kubantwana abatshintshe isini kubantwana abatshintshe isini, iphaneli yabagwebi abathathu bagweba isigwebo sethutyana ngokuchasene nomthetho - ukuba umthetho kufuneka ihlale isebenza ngelixa imingeni yezomthetho iqhubeka. Wonke umba wokhathalelo olugqithisiweyo kunye nendlela olunxibelelana ngayo nokhathalelo lokuzala?
UGqr. BHAVIK KUMAR: Ewe, enkosi ngokubuza loo mbuzo. Ndicinga ukuba zininzi izinto ezifanayo phakathi kwezi zimbini. Ndingumboneleli wokuqhomfa. Ndikwabonelela ngokhathalelo. Kwaye ke kucace gca kum ukuba incwadi yokudlala esiyibonayo ngokhathalelo lokuqhomfa, apho ibingumthetho omnye, yayiliqela elinye elijoliswe kuyo - kule meko, abancinci - yayililizwe elinye, kwaye kancinci, kancinci, sabona ukubhukuqwa kwamalungelo omntu wonke. Kwaye apha sikunye ibhadi ibhukuqiwe. Ukuqhomfa akufikeleleki kumazwe amaninzi. Kwaye ndiyayibona ipateni efanayo kunye ne-trans care, apho sine-Alabama epasise umthetho, sine-Arkansas ngoku, sineenkundla ezithatha isigqibo malunga nokuba yintoni na enokuthi yenzeke.
Ekupheleni kosuku, siyazi ukuba le nkathalo ikhuselekile. Siyayazi loo nto-kwaye ndithetha oku njengogqirha obonelela ngolu khathalelo, oqeqeshelwe ukunika olu khathalelo - olu khathalelo lusindisa ubomi. Yehlisa isakhono sabantu — inciphisa ukuzibulala kwabantu. Isindisa ubomi babantu. Kubalulekile ukuba abantu bakwazi ukufikelela kolu khathalelo, ngakumbi abancinci.
Kwaye into esiyibonayo kunye nenkcaso kukuba bajolise kubantu baseMazantsi kwaye bajolise kwabona basengozini phakathi kwethu. Kule meko, ngabantwana. Kwaye ke, kwakhona, lo ngomnye umba odityaniswe ngokusondeleyo neentshukumo ezichasene nokuqhomfa, apho abantu abaxhasa imithetho echasene nokuqhomfa bakwaxhasa le mithetho ichaseneyo.
Ekupheleni kosuku, kum njengogqirha, ezi zigqibo kufuneka zishiywe phakathi kwam, izigulane zam. Kufuneka sisebenzise isayensi kunye namayeza kwaye sicebisa izigulana zethu malunga nokuba yintoni na ebalungeleyo kwaye sibavumele bathathe isigqibo malunga nokuba bafuna ukwenza ntoni ngobomi babo kunye nemizimba yabo kwaye baphakamise isidima sabo kunye nobuntu babo.
UJUAN GONZÁLEZ: Kwaye ndingathanda ukubuyisela uMini Timmaraju kwincoko. Isigqibo samva nje-ndicinga ukuba bekungoLwesithathu - yijaji yomdibaniso e-Idaho -
MINI TIMMARAJU: Ewe.
UJUAN GONZÁLEZ: - ukuthintela iinxalenye ze-trigger yokuvalwa kokuqhomfa, ngaba unokuthetha ngaloo nto?
MINI TIMMARAJU: Ngokuqinisekileyo. E-Idaho, iSebe lezoBulungisa lazisa isibonelelo kwi-EMTALA, icandelo lokubonelela ngononophelo olungxamisekileyo. Kwaye, khangela, e-Idaho, inkundla yathi, "Khangela, wena" - ukuvalwa kusekho, okuyingxaki enzulu. Kodwa inyathelo elilungileyo kukuba ngoku ukuba isigulana - kwakhona, kufuneka sibonakalise, kwaye ugqirha kufuneka ayingqine, ayilunganga - kodwa ukuba isigulana sinokungqina ukuba sinemeko kaxakeka, banokufikelela kwimeko kaxakeka. igumbi lokunyamekela ukuqhomfa. Kuzo zonke izizathu ezibekwe nguGqr. Kumar, oku kuseyingxaki kakhulu, kodwa linyathelo lokuqala elibalulekileyo, kuba lo ngumzekelo wendlela ulawulo lweBiden oluthatha ngayo isimo esiqinileyo senkululeko yokuzala kunye namalungelo okuzala kunye nokuzama ukusebenzisa konke. izixhobo ezikwibhokisi yabo yesixhobo, ngakumbi i-DOJ, ukungenelela kwezinye zezi meko ziyingxaki.
UAMY KUHLE: Ewe, ndifuna ukubulela ngokuba kunye nathi. Ininzi kakhulu into yokuthetha ngayo, kwaye siza kuqhubeka. UMini Timmaraju ngumongameli weNARAL Pro-Choice America. Uthetha nathi esePhiladelphia. Kwaye uDkt Bhavik Kumar ungumlawuli wezonyango weprayimari kunye nokunyamekela kwi-Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast e-Houston.
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