Umanyano lwaseOntario oluLwa iNtlupheko (www.ocap.ca) ngumbutho ochasene nentlupheko ophantsi osekelwe ikakhulu kwisixeko saseToronto eOntario, eCanada. Idibanisa 'inkqubo yezenzo ezithe ngqo', imizabalazo yemihla ngemihla ehlangeneyo egameni labantu ngabanye kumalungelo abaqeshi, ukuyekisa ukugxothwa, ukumisa ukugxothwa, ukuphumelela ukufikelela kwintlalontle, kunye namaphulo amakhulu ezopolitiko ukucinezela amabango otshintsho lomgaqo-nkqubo. I-OCAP isandula ukusebenza ngamandla kumalungelo abaphambukeli kunye neembacu, inika ingqwalasela kumaziko okuvalelwa kunye nokugxothwa; kwiphulo lephondo liphela lokubuyisela intlalo-ntle kwinqanaba lokuziphilisa; nakwiphulo lomanyano nomphambukeli abasebenzi beMetropolitan Hotel, abasebenzi abaye bazifumanisa betsala nzima kungekuphela nje kulawulo olugwenxa lwale 'five star sweatshop' yaseToronto, kodwa kwananxamnye nolawulo lwemibutho yabasebenzi, ethe yakwicala lolawulo ngokuchasene neminqweno yabasebenzi.
Njengombutho indawo yawo yonyulo ihlwempuzekileyo kwaye izenzo zawo zisebenzela eso sithili, i-OCAP iye yadibana nengcinezelo evela kwabasemagunyeni kwaye, ngelishwa, ukungabikho kobumbano okumangalisayo kwamanye amacandelo emibutho yezentlalo, nangona bebenenkxaso emangalisayo kunye nomanyano oluvela kwabanye abaninzi. . UJohn Clarke, umququzeleli we-OCAP, wadliwano-ndlebe eToronto ngeminye yale miba.
JP: Yaqala njani i-Ontario Coalition Against Poverty?
I-JC: Iingcambu ze-OCAP zisekupheleni koo-1980, xa i-Ontario yayilawulwa ngurhulumente weLiberal wenkulumbuso uDavid Peterson. Eli yayilixesha apho i-neoliberalism yayiqhubeka, kukho uThatcher, uReagan, noMulroney esemandleni. Urhulumente kaPeterson wayengurhulumente wokugqibela e-Ontario owayekulungele ukwenza iminyinyiva kwimiba yasekuhlaleni. Oko akuthethi ukuba urhulumente kaPeterson wenze yonke imithwalo yemvume.
Kodwa ngelo xesha, uluhlu lwentlalontle lwalusanda kakhulu nangona yayilixesha lokukhula kwezoqoqosho kwiphondo. Ndandisebenza kwi-Union of Unemployed Workers yaseLondon (Ontario). Kunye ne-Toronto Union yabasebenzi abangaqeshwanga, size nephulo elifuna ukonyuswa kwentlalontle nge-25%. Isiqubulo sasisithi: โUkuze nje sitye kwaye sihlawule irenti, sifuna ama-25%. Sasebenzisa amanye amaqhinga i-OCAP edume kakubi ngawo: sasidla ngokudibana nabezopolitiko ezintlanganisweni nasezidlweni, sizame ukuphazamisa ishishini njengesiqhelo. Salungiselela imingcelele emithathu emikhulu, isuka kwiindawo ezahlukahlukeneyo zoMzantsi weOntario (eHamilton naseLondon), ukuya kwiNdlu yoWiso-mthetho yePhondo eQueenโs Park. Ibe nefuthe. Kungekudala emva koko, kwabakho ikomiti karhulumente, 'iKomiti yeThomson', eyapapasha ingxelo ngentlalontle e-Ontario yaza yaphakamisa uluhlu lohlaziyo lwenkqubo.
Emva koko, thina - ngakumbi iManyano yaseLondon yaBasebenzi abangaqeshwanga kwakhona - sacebisa omnye umngcelele omkhulu kwindlu yowiso-mthetho. Kubonakala kumangalisa ngoku, kodwa sinenkxaso eninzi evela kwimibutho, imibutho, kunye neNew Democratic Party (iqela laseKhanada lentando yesininzi). Uqhankqalazo lwenzeka ngeNtwasahlobo ka-1990. Nalo, lwaba yimpumelelo, nto leyo eyakhokelela ekunyukeni kwezinga lentlalontle nge-9% - nasekusekweni kwe-OCAP. I-OCAP yasekwa ngokungekho sikweni ngaloo ntwasahlobo, ngokusesikweni ngoNovemba ka-1990.
Iphulo lethu elilandelayo lalichasene nokunyulwa kwakhona kukaDavid Peterson, kunye nentetho ethi: โPhantsi kwinkulumbuso yentlupheko!โ Kwakhona, sasebenzisa amaqhinga afanayo: ukubonakalisa kwiintlanganiso kunye neenkomfa zeendaba kunye namatheko. UPeterson woyiswa, kwaye iNew Democratic Party yalawula phantsi kwenkulumbuso uBob Rae ngo-1990.
JP: Ngokunxulumene ne-NDP, iqela elishiyayo, kumele ukuba libe ngumngeni. Ingaba i-OCAP yadibana njani ne-NDP esemandleni?
JC: Yayilixesha elinzima kuthi, ngenxa yezizathu ezahlukeneyo. Okokuqala, ngenxa yokuba isiseko sobutyebi bethu kwiimanyano kunye ne-NDP njalo njalo, ngoku sasikurhulumente. Kwaye okwesibini, ngenxa yale ngxoxo: ucela umngeni njani kurhulumente osekhohlo? Kucace gca ukuba xa ucela umngeni kurhulumente wasekhohlo ucela umngeni kuyo yonke inkqubo, kuba akukho ndlela yonyulo yokukhomba. Kwaye kwaba ngeli xesha, phantsi kwe-NDP, apho saqonda ukuba i-OCAP yayiza kuhlala eToronto, kungekhona uthungelwano lwephondo ngokubanzi esasiphupha ngalo. Inkxaso yomanyano ebesiyithembile ibingekafiki. Siye saba ngumbutho osekelwe kwisixeko, kwaye siye sahlala sinjalo ukususela ngoko.
JP: I-NDP yalandelwa ngurhulumente okhohlakeleyo weConservative kaMike Harris. Itshintshe njani iOCAP?
I-JC: Yayiyinguqu enkulu kwisikali kunye nobunzulu beengxaki esijongene nazo kunye noxinzelelo olujoliswe kubantu abahluphekayo ngokubanzi. Kuzo zonke iingxaki esasinazo noPeterson okanye uRae, sasidibene noPeterson. Siye sadibana noRae. Besihlanganisana ukuzama ukuzuza impumelelo, kwaye ngoku besihlanganisana ukuzama ukunqanda nokucothisa ukuphunyezwa kwale ajenda ikhohlakeleyo. Kwakungekho ntshukumo ebanzi, enamandla, okanye exhaswa ngokwaneleyo ukumisa i-ajenda.
Ngoko kwafuneka siziqhelanise neemeko. Sakha umkhuba osekelwe kuqala, sizama ukubonisa kwintshukumo ebanzi ukuba kunokwenzeka ukuhamba ngaphaya koxinzelelo lokuziphatha kurhulumente kwaye samkele ukuchasana okukhulu. Kwaye, kumsebenzi wethu wemihla ngemihla wokungenelela ukumisa ukugxothwa, ukuphumelela izibonelelo zomvuzo kunye nezibonelelo zentlalontle yomntu ngamnye kwimeko yethu yomsebenzi. Ngalo naliphi na ixesha sisebenza kwiimeko ezininzi ezinjalo, kwaye siphumelele ngenxa yokuba sisebenza kuzo ngezenzo ezihlangeneyo: abathunywa kwiiofisi zentlalontle, iipikethi kwizindlu zabanye baba bantu bacekisekayo, njalo njalo. Kwaye sinezinga eliphezulu lempumelelo. Izinga eliqhubekayo lokuphumelela kwizibheno zokufudukela kwelinye ilizwe, umzekelo, yi-4-5%. Kodwa xa i-OCAP ibandakanyeka, senza umsebenzi wezomthetho kodwa senza nentshukumo ehlangeneyo, ukuhlanganisa kunye nezinga lempumelelo yethu limalunga nama-70%. Siphumelela i-95% yamatyala ethu entlalontle.
JP: Uthethe ngendlela inkxaso yakho esekelwe ngayo kwiziko. Kodwa amanye aloo maziko ayishiyile i-OCAP, echaza amaqhinga e-OCAP angaxengaxengiyo njengesizathu, eshiya i-OCAP isesichengeni nangakumbi kwingcinezelo kwimeko yengcinezelo nangakumbi, kwaye ikwayishiya i-OCAP ingenazixhobo. Ngaba unokuthetha ngenye yaloo mbali?
JC: Ekuqaleni, uninzi lwenkxaso yethu ibiphuma kwiimanyano zabasebenzi. Kuloo minyaka yokuqala, sasisebenza ngebhajethi emalunga ne-40-50,000 yeedola, uninzi lwazo lwaluvela kwimibutho yabasebenzi. Namhlanje sisebenza malunga ne-80,000 yeedola, kodwa nangaphantsi koko kuvela kwiimanyano. Kukho izinto ezimbalwa eziphawulekayo nezibekekileyo: iManyano yaseKhanada yaBasebenzi bakaRhulumente (CUPE), indawo yaseToronto yePostal Workers Union, ibalulekile. I-CUPE 3903, indawo encinci yasekhaya, ibonelele ngenkxaso ngakumbi kunalo naliphi na elinye iziko labasebenzi - elikhulu, umzekelo, kunombutho omkhulu weCanadian Auto Worker kunye ne-Ontario Federation of Labor idityanisiwe.
Ngokwenene sibethe nje eludongeni, ngokwemali. Asikwazanga ukuhlawula irenti kunye netyala lethu lomnxeba. Senze isibheno, kwaye siphumelele: sinyuse i-12,000 yeedola kwiiveki ezimbalwa. Kuloo nto, sifumene i-150 yeedola kumbutho wabasebenzi. Kancinci ngakumbi kwimibutho. Eminye yayivela kumntu ngamnye. Omnye waba yayiyinkwenkwe yebhasi kwivenkile yokutyela, eyafika eofisini yethu yaza yasinika imali awayeyigcinele ii-$3000. Abantu abakwintlalontle baye banikela. Ndiye ndanabo abantu abangenamakhaya esitratweni basinika imali, endiye ndazama ukungayifuni.
Oku kucacile. Isizathu sesokuba ngokusisiseko, ulawulo lwezabasebenzi luya lukhula lungenamdla ekuncedeni umbutho wabantu abangamahlwempu. Bawubona umsebenzi wethu uguquguquka, kwaye ngokuchaseneyo nomdla wabo (njengolawulo lweofisi), kwaye ngenxa yoko abanamdla wokuxhasa umsebenzi wethu ngemali.
JP: Ucinga ukuba iingxaki ze-OCAP kunye ne-bureaucracy yomanyano zingena kucazululo olubanzi lomxholo wolungiselelo?
JC: Ewe. I-Neoliberalism iye yaphelisa ide facto 'uzinziso' kunye nokwanda kwasemva kwemfazwe okwanika abantu abasebenzayo ukuba banyuse umgangatho wokuphila ukuze batshintshele 'uxolo' lwabasebenzi. Oko kuzinziswa kufa ngakumbi kunangaphambili, kwaye lixesha lokubuyela umva kunye nengcinezelo. Elona lizwe linamandla ehlabathini lisebenza njengobukhosi, ngokuphandle. Ukuzama ukuguqula lo msinga kuya kuba yinkqubo ende. Kodwa amaziko adalwe ngexesha lokuthobela ajongene nokhetho olutsha. Bangakwazi ukuyiguqula indlela yabo yokusebenza ukusuka kweyentsebenziswano kunye nothethathethwano ukuya kweyokuchasa okubalulekileyo. Okanye banokungena nje kwelinye icala. Ngelishwa, ngokwembali, abasebenzi baye bakhetha ukuya kwelinye icala, kwicala labaphezulu, ngamaxesha onke. Ngokomzekelo, eJamani, ukusebenza nzima kwahamba namaNazi, yaye ngosuku olulandelayo babekwiinkampu zoxinaniso.
Ke kukho le ntlekele iziswe lulawulo lwezabasebenzi, olusisithintelo ekwakheni intshukumo. Kodwa kukwakho ingxubakaxaka kwicala lasekhohlo. Ndineminyaka engamashumi amahlanu ubudala, kwaye andizange ndibone ndishiywe ndishiywe lucazululo lombutho wabasebenzi njengoko ndibona namhlanje. Kwelinye icala, kukho amatshantliziyo aselula acinga ukuba yonke le nto ayinamsebenzi, yaye kunzima ukubabeka ityala. Kwelinye icala, kukho ezindala, ndiyaqikelela ukuba ungababiza left has-beens. Abanako ukuqhawuka ne-bureaucracy, ngoko ke baba ngabaxoleli bayo.
Andithi i-OCAP igqibelele. Ngokuqinisekileyo siye sabelana nathi ngeempazamo. Kodwa ekuzikhuseleni kwethu siye sanyanzeliswa kwindima engalinganiyo kwaphela nale nto siyiyo. Singumbutho omncinane omele awona malungu ahlwempuzekileyo kubasebenzi, kwaye siye sanyanzeleka ukuba sizame ukudala inkcaso esisiseko kuyo yonke i-ajenda yeniyoliberalism, into leyo imibutho enegunya elikhulu kakhulu lokuyenza.
JP: Ukuba uphelelwe lithemba lokuzama ukufikelela kwiziko lemibutho yabasebenzi, ungathini kwabo batsha-ntliziyo baselula bacinga ukuba ayinamsebenzi? Ngokuqinisekileyo ndiyamqonda umntu oselula onokucinga ukuba: babona amathuba ambalwa okufumana umsebenzi oya kubenza bahlawule irente, ukucuthwa kweenkonzo zentlalontle, kunye necandelo lemibutho yabasebenzi elinciphayo. Mhlawumbi uninzi lolutsha olunamava omsebenzi alunawo amava ngemanyano, kuba uninzi lwabasebenzi abancinci alumanyano.
I-JC: Indelelo abanayo amatsha-ntliziyo aselula nge-bureaucracy isempilweni. Kodwa into ephosakeleyo xa uyigxotha yonke into kukuqonda amandla abasebenzi. Ngoku i-OCAP idume ngoqhanqalazo lomkhosi. Kodwa nangona ubunkokeli, iiNtsuku zokuSebenza, ezikhokelwa yimibutho yabasebenzi, ngo-1995, ngokuchasene ne-ajenda ye-Conservative kaMike Harris - usuku lokuqala eLondon Ontario luxabisa i-auto industry $ 300 yezigidi zeedola. Ukuba abantu abasebenzayo bebenokushukuma, bebeya kuba namandla angaphaya kwayo nantoni na enokwenziwa luqhanqalazo lwasesitratweni olumangalisayo.
JP: Ngaba ucinga ukuba oko kuseyinyaniso? Uninzi loMntla Merika luye lwasuswa kwimizi-mveliso, abantu banyanzelwa ukuba basebenze, basebenze entolongweni, bangaqeshwa. Ngaba isiphumo soku asikhange sibe kukunciphisa iinketho zentshukumo yabasebenzi?
JC: Iseyinyani. Kuyinyani ukuba ishishini elisisiseko liye lancipha, kodwa oko akuwehlisi amandla anokubakho abantu abasebenzayo. Amandla okuvala ukuhamba kwempahla kunye neenkonzo kunye nokuthutha asesisiseko. Kusenokubakho abantu abambalwa kwishishini lentsimbi kunye nabantu abaninzi kwiinkonzo, kodwa nokuba uvala ishishini lokwamkela iindwendwe, usabetha abantu abaphezulu kwaye uphazamisa ukuhamba kwengeniso.
JP: Xa sithetha ngoshishino lokwamkela iindwendwe, i-OCAP isebenza neKomiti yaBasebenzi beehotele zeMetropolitan. Kwenzekani?
JC: Okwenzekayo ngabasebenzi beehotele zeMetro banako - ndiyayigxininisa into yokuba - babe ngumzekelo wokuxhathisa izikhundla kunye nokumelana neefayile, kubaphathi nakulawulo lwemibutho yabasebenzi, enokuthi iphindeke. Enye into ehlekisayo apha kukuba imanyano yabasebenzi basehotele, APHA Local 75, eneneni inobunkokeli obunodumo lwezopolitiko zomkhosi. Ubunkokeli baloo ndawo baphunyelelwa ngabantu abanombono wokwakha intshukumo yabasebenzi basehotele. Kodwa yathatha indawo yasekuhlaleni kwimeko apho umqeshi onempumlo elukhuni, exhaphaza abasebenzi ababuthathaka.
Kwimeko enjalo, awukwazi ukukhawuleza. Iintetho zomkhosi aziyi kunqumla. Kuya kufuneka uhlanganise elo lungu lonyulo okanye uya kufumanisa ukuba emva kokuba i-rhetoric itshintshile kakhulu. Inkokeli yomanyano yafumanisa indlela ekuphela kwayo eya phambili kukukhanyela, ukucinezela, kunye nokuphupha ngeentsuku zabo zasekholejini.
JP: Kaloku baye ekholejini.
JC: Kuba baye ekholejini, ngokungafaniyo nabavoti babo. I-ofisi yalo mbutho izele ngabafundi abafunda kwiidyunivesithi abangazithethiyo neelwimi zabasebenzi abaninzi abasuka kwamanye amazwe.
JP: Nangona kulula kakhulu ukufundisa umsebenzi othetha isiPunjabi indlela yokusebenza eofisini kunokufundisa umfundi wekholeji yesiNgesi ukuthetha isiPunjabiรขโฌยฆ
JC: Ke ubulungu bokwenyani bomanyano buqala ukushukuma. Izikhalazo zazinzulu kakhulu. Inqaku lakutshanje kwi-Toronto's alternative ngeveki, i-'Eye Magazine', ibalisa nje elinye lamabali abasebenzi:
โUMahmood, ongumSilamsi, uthi uchithe malunga nemizuzu emihlanu yekhefu lakhe ethandaza kwindawo yabasebenzi, emehlweni eendwendwe zasehotele. Uthi ukhuseleko lwasehotele lumphahlile kwaye lwamgxotha. Kumatyeli aliqela, utyhola ukuba bagqogqa itroli yakhe encinci yebha. UMahmood ugxeka imozulu yangoku: โEmva ko-9/11, andisazi isizathu sokuba bajolise kum,โ utsho. Uthi umphathi wakhe akazange azinanze izikhalazo zakhe, kwaye olo khuseleko lwenza ubomi bakhe banzima kangangokuba waziva enyanzelekile ukuba arhoxe.
โNgaphambi kokuba arhoxe phantsi kweemeko ezingahambelaniyo, umqeshwa okwinqanaba lolawulo leMetropolitan wathumela i-imeyile kwiihotele ezinkulu esixekweni, kubandakanya neZine Seasons, iCrown Plaza kunye neHyatt, ebalumkisa ngeMahmood. โAwufuni lo mfo asebenze ehotele yakho,โ wabhala. "Sigqibele [sic] ukufaka uxinzelelo kuye kwaye uyekile."
Ngamabali amaninzi anje, kunye nemeko apho, ucaphula inqaku kwakhona:
โAbasebenziรขโฌยฆ soze bababone abameli bombutho, nokuba bafowuna ngokuphindaphindiweyo. Izikhalazo zabasebenzi azifayilishwaรขโฌยฆ kwaye azilandelwa. Baqokelele amakhulukhulu abatyikityo kwizibongozo zokususa abaphathi abaxhaphazayo, รขโฌยฆeyaรขโฌยฆ engahoywangaโ, ayimangalisi into yokuba abasebenzi banyanzeleke ukuba baququzelele ukujongana nabaphathi kunye nemanyano yabo. I-OCAP isincedile โ kodwa asingabo โabaxhokonxa bangaphandleโ esipeyintwa ukuba sibe ngabo. Siququzelele kwaye sanceda abasebenzi ukuba bakhe uxhathiso lokugaya kunye nokulwa nabaqeshi babo kwaye bajongane ne-bureaucracy yabo ngeemfuno.
Abasebenzi beehotele zeMetro baye bamkela isilogeni sabasebenzi baseClyde eSkotlani ngo-1915: 'Siza kuwaxhasa amagosa [ombutho] ukuba nje amele abasebenzi kodwa siya kwenza ngokuzimeleyo ngoko nangoko babamela kakubi'. Oko kuphezulu kwiwebhusayithi yabo. Umzekelo waseBrithani emva kweMfazwe Yehlabathi I mhlawumbi ngowona mzekelo ubalaseleyo wenqanaba kunye nefayile yenkcaso ngaphakathi komanyano. Abasebenzi beemoto eDetroit ngeminyaka yee-1970 ngomnye umzekelo. Kwaye njengakula matyala, ngokuqikelelwa kwangaphambili, abasebenzi baye babhengezwa 'njengabachasene nomanyano'.
Le yimeko apho imigca itsalwa ngokwenene, kwaye abantu batyhalwa ziziganeko ukuya kwelinye icala okanye kwelinye. Ndicinga ukuba kulungile ukuthi i-OCAP ikwicala lokuchasa. Kodwa abantu onokuthi ulindele ukuba bawe kwicala lokuchasa, ngelishwa, baye bangena kwi-passivity okanye embi.
JP: Kulo mbuzo wokunyanzelwa kwabantu ukuba baxhathise: kumanxweme omabini eCanada kubekho uqhanqalazo olukhulu lwecandelo likarhulumente. E-British Columbia, abasebenzi becandelo lokhathalelo lwempilo baye bagwayimba ukuzama ukunqanda ushishino lwabucala kunye nokuhlehliswa kwemivuzo. NaseNewfoundland, inkulumbuso izama 'ukulungelelanisa ngokwesakhiwo' oko sele kulelona phondo lihlwempuzekileyo elizweni. Iinkulumbuso zephondo zizama ukwenza apho (kunye naseQuebec ngokunjalo) oko sele kwenziwe e-Alberta nase-Ontario, kwaye kukho ukuchaswa kweemanyano. Ucinga ukuba imanyano zabasebenzi kula maphondo ifundile kwinto eyenzeka kuthi?
JC: Ayingombuzo wokufunda. Isifundo siye sacaca ixesha elide kakhulu. Ingxaki yeyokuba i-union bureaucracy ngokuzalwa ayinako ukuxhathisa. Ngumaleko onelungelo elikhethekileyo onokuthi usebenze kuphela kwiimeko zoxinzelelo kumzabalazo wodidi. Uloyiso oluqinisekileyo ngabantu abasebenzayo luphelisa imfuno kubo, kuba iingcambu ezinamandla azidingi. Ngokunjalo, kwimpumelelo ephuthileyo yokusabela, iimanyano zezokuqala ukuya. Ke abalawuli banokujongana kuphela noxinzelelo. Ukuba akukho ngqiqweni kwaye kufuneka bakhethe, bakhetha icala abaziva benobudlelwane nalo: iinkampani kunye nabaphathi, iifascists kunye neenjengele, abantu abaqhele ukudibana nabo etafileni ngokuchasene ne abantu ekumele ukuba babamele. Kufuneka sifumane iimodeli zokoyisa olo lawulo, kwaye oko kuthetha inkcaso ngaphandle nangaphakathi kwimibutho yabasebenzi. Emazantsi endlela, kuthetha ukukhangela iindlela zombutho ezinamandla kakhulu nezinedemokhrasi kunendlela iimanyano ezakhiwe ngayo ngoku, iifom ezingabophelelanga kangako kurhulumente.
JP: Kwiminyaka eyadlulayo ndandityhila iKhalenda ye-OCAP ndaza ndadibana nesicatshulwa sikaPiven noCloward esithi โIintshukumo Zabantu Abahluphekayoโ. Loo ncwadi ichaza ukwahlukana phakathi kokulungelelanisa ngokuchasene nokuphazamiseka, kwaye ixoxa ngokuthanda ukuphazamiseka. Ingxoxo yeyokuba imibutho iba luhlobo lolawulo obulugxekayo, izixhobo zokubambisa kunye nokungcatsha iingcambu zabo. Endaweni yokuzama ukwakha ezi zinto, abaququzeleli mabazame ukuphazamisa inkqubo kangangoko xa iimeko zivuma, ukuzama ukuphumelela iimeko eziphucukileyo. Kwimeko yentlalontle, baxoxa ngelithi umsebenzi ayikokwakha umanyano kodwa kukufumana abantu abaninzi kangangoko, ekudaleni ummandla kuya kuba nzima ukuwugxotha. Ucinga ntoni ngale ngxabano? Ngaba ucinga ukuba isafanelekile kwimeko ye-neoliberal erhabaxa ngakumbi kuleyo babhale kuyo?
I-JC: I-Piven kunye noCloward benza uhlalutyo olunamandla kakhulu lwenkqubo yentlalontle njengendlela yokugcina abantu kwinqanaba lokuziphilisa ngendlela yokudandatheka umvuzo ukuya kwinqanaba eliphezulu. Baveza ingcamango yokuba amahlwempu anokuphumelela ngokuphazamiseka. Kodwa ndicinga ukuba bayakugatya ngokungafanelekanga ulungiselelo lwexesha elide kwaye bagqithise amandla okuzenzela. Babhekisa kwi-1930s upsurge, kodwa ngaba oko bekuya kwenzeka ngaphandle komsebenzi omde weQela lamaKomanisi? Kubonakala kungenakwenzeka. Ngokunjalo, intshukumo yamalungelo entlalontle ababesebenza nayo yakhula ekuququzeleleni ixesha elide lombutho wamaLungelo oLuntu oluMnyama emazantsi. Bakholelwa ukuba abaququzeleli banokwenza izinto ngexesha lokunyuka, kodwa abanako ukwenza okuninzi phakathi. Kodwa naphakathi kwe-upsurges ukulungelelanisa kuyimfuneko, ukuba nje ukuzama ukucotha ukuhlehla.
JP: Yile nto siyenzayo? Uzama ukucothisa ukuhlehla?
I-JC: Okwangoku, sihlanganisa kangangoko sinakho ngokuchasene ne-ajenda ye-neoliberal, ngokuchasene ne-ajenda yasebukhosini, kwaye sizama ukudala ipali yokutsala intshukumo enkulu eya kuthi ekugqibeleni ikwazi ukwenza ngaphezu kokuphazamisa loo ajenda.
JP: E-US, amatsha ntliziyo ajongene nengxaki. UBush uyoyikeka kwaye kufuneka ahambe. Kodwa uKerry akazukulungisa nje umonakalo owenziwe nguBush, uthembise ngokuthumela amajoni amaninzi e-Iraq, kwaye uyibeke yacaca into yokuba uzakuqhubeka ne-ajenda. I-OCAP yajongana ne-microcosm yoku kunyulo lwephondo luka-2003: i-Conservatives ekhohlakeleyo yoyiswa, kodwa nangona i-Liberals yaphumelela, ngandlela-thile ngathi i-Conservatives ayizange ihambe.
JC: Kutshanje ndive uMongameli weBhunga lezaBasebenzi ethetha. Uthe iiNtsuku zokuSebenza, iintshukumo zika-1995 ezichasene norhulumente weConservative, zazinamandla kangangokuba zaqinisekisa udidi olulawulayo ukuba lubuyisele utshintsho oluqhubekayo kwibhokisi yokuvota, ukuzisa iiLiberals kulawulo.
JP: Wayexoxa ukuba iDays of Action ngo-1995 yaba nefuthe kunyulo emva kweminyaka eyi-8, ngelixa ingazange ikwazi ukuphembelela unyulo ngo-1999?
JC: Inyani yeyokuba ishelufu-ubomi bukaReagan, Thatcher, kunye noHarris abunasiphelo. Rhoqo ngexesha elithile udinga inguqu yeqhinga, ukulungisa izinto kancinci. Zisa uClinton, okanye uKerry, okanye nantoni na. Kwakucacile kwasekuqaleni ukuba iLiberals phantsi kweDalton McGuinty ayiyi kuphela ukubuyisela umonakalo, kodwa ukuba baya kuqhubeka nokuhlehla. Eyona nto imbi kakhulu kukuba ezi 'nkokeli zombutho' zingatsho ukuba uHarris wayesisibhanxa. Ngoku bayathandabuza nokuvakalisa 'ukuphoxeka', ngelixa uhlaselo luqhubeka phantsi kweLiberals.
JP: Kubonakala ngathi ngumsebenzi we-OCAP, womsebenzi wemihla ngemihla obonelela ngento ebalulekileyo kwinqila yakho ngelixa ngaxeshanye ukhankasela kwaye uququzelela utshintsho olukhulu ngumzekelo olungileyo. Kutheni ungacingi ukuba yamkelwe ngokubanzi? Kukho abantu abazizigidi ezingama-45 e-US abangenayo i-inshurensi yezempilo, kwaye 'i-casework yesenzo esithe ngqo' kwii-ofisi ze-HMO, ii-ofisi ze-inshurensi, njalo njalo kuya kuba nempumelelo ebalulekileyo ekuphumeleleni izibonelelo zempilo, njengomzekelo omnye. Kutheni ungacingi ukuba yenziwa ngokubanzi?
JC: Ukuba ujonga ngokwembali, kwimizekelo esinayo: kwakukho iikomiti ngeminyaka yee-1930 ezaziza kunikela abathunywa kwiiofisi zoncedo, ezazinamandla okuhlanganisa ukuyekisa ukugxothwa. Kodwa oku kwakuvela phi? Yaququzelelwa ngeqela lamakomanisi. Kwakukho iingxaki ezininzi ngeqela lamakomanisi, kwaye andifuni ukuyihoya loo nto, kodwa inyaniso yeyokuba babenamawakawaka amajoni awayelungelelaniswe kwaye aqeqeshelwe. Kukho iintshukumo ezinje kwiindawo ezifana neBrazil neArgentina ngokunjalo. Kodwa asinayo loo nto. Iqela lakho le-Flying squad lengingqi yakho okanye ibhentshi ye-NDP yakho yasekhaya ayinakugxila, izinzileyo, inkcaso yokulwa. Akukho kwisakhelo sabo sokubhekisela, kwaye ukuba bekunjalo, bekuya kuvalwa.
Ndiyayithanda kakhulu ikomiti yabasebenzi basehotele, kodwa uyayibona into engalunganga yokuba ukunqongophala kwamava okulungelelaniswa okubeka abantu kuyo. Ayenzi ukuba izinto zingenzeki. Amandla akhona, kodwa ngaphandle kwaloo mava kunye nokuqhubeka, kunzima kakhulu. Kwaye oko kuqhubeka kuphazamisekile, ngokucinezelwa kunye nokubambisana, ukuze abantu bahlale kufuneka baqale phantsi.
JP: Ngaba isibheno esiyimpumelelo sonyuso-mali samva nje sithetha ukuba i-OCAP iphumile ehlathini ngokwasezimalini?
JC: Eyona nto siyifunayo ngokwenene, ukuzama ukwenza uququzelelo kunye nokwakhiwa kwentshukumo yexesha elide, yinkxaso-mali ezinzileyo. Asifuni kuzigcina kwizibheno zonxunguphalo nakwintlekele. Sizamile ukuseka i'Sustainer Programme', apho abantu banokunikela rhoqo. Oku kuya kunceda kakhulu, njengoko bekuya kusenza sikwazi ukumisela uhlahlo lwabiwo-mali kwaye senze ucwangciso lwexesha elide. Jonga iwebhusayithi ye-OCAP ngeenkcukacha (www.ocap.ca)
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