Mamiriyoni evanhu vane pamuviri muUnited States iye zvino havachakwanisi kubvisa pamuviri munyika yavo kubva Dare Repamusorosoro rakarasa Roe v. Wade. Anti-kubvisa nhumbu "trigger mitemo" yakatanga kushanda mumatunhu akawanda munyika yose, kusanganisira Texas, uko zvakava mhosva yekubvisa nhumbu kutanga neChina, zvichirangwa nekugara mujeri kweupenyu hwose. Tinotaura naDr. Bhavik Kumar, vanobvisa pamuviri muTexas, uye Mini Timmaraju, purezidhendi we NARAL Pro-Choice America, nezvenzira iyo vanachiremba vari kufamba nayo zviri pamutemo mushure mekupera kwaRoe v. Wade. “Zvandakaona mumakore manomwe apfuura ekupa rubatsiro rwekubvisa pamuviri muTexas ndezvekuti zvematongerwo enyika zvapinda mukamuri rangu rebvunzo, munzvimbo yangu yehutano. Zvakanyura mune zvese zvandinoita semutarisiri wehutano, "anodaro Kumar, anowedzera kuti vezvematongerwo enyika vanochengetedza vakarwisa kubvisa nhumbu nekutapurirana hutano nenzira dzakafanana. Zvichakadaro, Timmaraju anoti kunyange mitemo inorambidza kubvisa pamuviri inobvumira kubvisa pamuviri mumamiriro ezvinhu akaomarara inoderedza kuzvitonga kwemuviri nekusiya hupenyu mumaoko edare revatongi kana vashandi vemuzvipatara. "Iyo nzira isingashiviriri zvachose yekubata hutano hwekuzvara munyika ino," anodaro.
AMY GOODMAN: Ichi chi Dememocracy Zvino!, democracynow.org, Nhoroondo Yehondo uye Rugare. Ndiri Amy Goodman, naJuan González.
Tinopedza awa yose tichitarisa kuti mamiriyoni evanhu vane pamuviri muUnited States varasikirwa sei nekubvisa pamuviri munyika yavo kubva Dare Repamusorosoro rakaramba. Roe v. Wade. The Washington Post mishumo izvi zvinosanganisira mukadzi mumwe chete pavatatu.
Zvichakadaro, zvimwe zvirambidzo zviri kuitwa munyika nenyika. Vhiki rino chete, mitemo inorambidza kubvisa nhumbu yakatanga kushanda muTexas, Tennessee neIdaho, uye neMugovera, Oklahoma ichawedzera zvirango zvevanachiremba vanobvisa nhumbu zvisiri pamutemo kune vane pamuviri kuti vasanganise faindi yemadhora zviuru zana uye anosvika makore gumi mujeri. . Mutemo wekuTexas unorambidza kubvisa pamuviri wakatanga kushanda neChina unoita kuti kubvisa pamuviri kuve mhosva, uye kunorangwa nefaindi ye$100,000 uye kugara mujeri kwehupenyu hwose. Mutemo weTennessee wakafanana wekukonzeresa hauna kunze kwekubatwa chibharo, makunakuna kana kuuraya fetal anomalies.
Zvichakadaro, mutemo wekukonzeresa watanga kushanda nhasi kuNorth Dakota wakavharwa neChina mudare rehurumende apo mutongi akapa mutongo wekupokana nedanho rinoita kuti ive mhosva yekubvisa nhumbu kunze kwekubatwa chibharo, makunakuna kana emergency.
Kubvisa pamuviri inyaya yakakosha musarudzo dzepakati petemu dza2022. Nyika zhinji dzinoshuma kuwanda kwevakadzi vari kunyoresa kuvhota. Uyu ndiMutungamiriri weBiden vari kutanga kuratidzira pakati petemu neChina manheru muMaryland.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Saka, aya ma MAGA Republicans akanyanyisa zvakadii? Ingotarisa zvakaitika kubva Dare Repamusorosoro rakapidigura Roe v. Wade. Munzvimbo yakatsvuka mushure mekutsvuka, pane mujaho wekupfuudza zvirambidzo zvekubvisa pamuviri zvaungafungidzike, kunyangwe pasina kunze kwekubatwa chibharo kana makunakuna. Asi aya MAGA maRepublicans haagumire ipapo. Vanoda kurambidzwa kwenyika. Vanoda kumisa mutemo wenyika kurambidzwa muCongress. Kana ve MAGA Republicans vakakunda kutonga kweCongress, hazvinei kuti unogara kupi: Vanhukadzi havazovi nekodzero yekusarudza chero kupi zvako. Chero kupi zvako. Rega ndikuudze chimwe chinhu: Kana vakaidzosera uye vakaedza kuipfuudza, ini ndichairambidza.
AMY GOODMAN: Izvi zvinouya semumiriri weArizona Republican Senate, ari kure-kurudyi capitalist Blake Masters, ave kushora rutsigiro rwake kumutemo we "fetal person" apo ari kuda kupikisa ari muDemocratic Senator Mark Kelly muna Mbudzi. Vhiki rino, mushandirapamwe waMasters akagadziridza chinyararire webhusaiti yake, achiikwesha yeakawanda eakanyanya ake ekurwisa kubvisa pamuviri.
Svondo rapfuura, mumiriri weSouth Carolina Republican State Rep. Neal Collins akati ari kufunga zvakare kutsigira kwake kunonzi fetal heartbeat bill yehurumende mushure mekunzwa kuti zvainge zvaita sei kuti mumwe wevamiriri vake arambidzwe kubvisa pamuviri pamwana wake asisagone nekuti zvaida kuti amirire. kusvika kurova kwemoyo kusaonekwa. Collins akataura pamberi peSouth Carolina House Judiciary Committee.
REP. NEAL COLLINS: Mumwe musikana ane makore 19 okukura akaoneka paER. Akanga ane pamuviri pemavhiki gumi nemashanu. Mvura yake yakatsemuka. Uye chibereko chaive chisingagoneki. … Magweta akaudza vanachiremba kuti pamusana pekurohwa kwemwoyo we "fetus", nokuti mwana ane mavhiki gumi nemashanu akanga aine kurova kwemwoyo, vanachiremba vakatadza kuburitsa. … Pane mukana we15% - mukana unopfuura 15% wekuti acharasikirwa nechibereko chake. Pane 50% mukana wekuti achaita sepsis uye iye amene kufa. Izvo zvinondiremera. Ndakavhotera mari iyoyo.
AMY GOODMAN: Mumiriri weHurumende Collins aive mumwe wevatatu veRepublicans vakaramba kuvhota pachiyero ichi, chakapfuura nemutsetse webato mukomiti uye vakagadzirira gakava repasi neChitatu.
Kune zvimwe, isu tinobatanidzwa nevaenzi vaviri. MuTexas, Dr. Bhavik Kumar anesu, mutungamiriri wezvokurapa weprimary and trans care pa Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast muHouston, sachigaro weKomiti Yekuchengetedza Health Care's Reproductive Freedom Task Force. Uye muPhiladelphia, Mini Timmaraju anesu. Ndiye mutungamiri weNARAL Pro-Choice America.
Tinokugamuchirai Dememocracy Zvino! Ini ndinofanira kuwedzera, Mini Timmaraju, kuti nhasi zvakare izuva re102nd ye19th Amendment, iyo yakapa vakadzi kodzero yekuvhota. Ukatarisa zviri kuitika munyika ino, ndinoreva, chokwadi chekuti madzimai - vanhukadzi vatsva vanovhota vari kutekeshera munyika ino yose zvino, zvinoita sekunge zvachinja tarisiro yesarudzo dzepakati petemu. Unogona here kutaura nezve zvakaitika svondo rino chete nekurambidzwa kwe trigger mushure mekurambidzwa kwe trigger?
MINI TIMMARAJU: Ndinokutendai zvikuru nekuve neni, Amy.
Uye, iwe unoziva, izvo zvinokonzeresa kurambidzwa zvinokatyamadza. Vanotyisa. Izvo zvakakosha kuti ticherechedze, zvisinei, mune dzakawanda dzeidzi nyika, sezvo izvi zvinokonzeresa zvirambidzo zviri kuuya munzvimbo, idzi inyika dzakatopfuura zvirambidzo zvinotyisa, kusanganisira Texas, uko mumwe wangu Dr. Kumar ari. Ndinoreva, tarisai, isu takatove nekurambidzwa kwemavhiki matanhatu kwakasiiwa kuti timire neDare Repamusorosoro nemaitiro ekuchengetedza akasvinurira uye faindi dzinotyisa uye zvirango muTexas kubvira gore rapfuura. Saka, Texans vanga vachirarama pasi pehusiku hwehutsinye kwenguva yakareba. Zvino, iwe unowedzera dzimwe nyika dzawataura - iwe unoziva, Idaho, Oklahoma, Tennessee - inyaradzo diki kuti isu tine zvirambidzo zvishoma zvino nematare. Nhau dzakanaka kuti dare rakarova North Dakota trigger kurambidzwa, kana kumbobata - isa mutongo.
Asi ini ndinoda kucherechedza chimwe chinhu nezveNorth Dakota uye dystopian mamiriro munyika ino. Kiriniki imwe yekubvisa nhumbu kuNorth Dakota yanga iripo yakatoyambuka mitsara ndokuenda kuMinnesota, nekuti vanonzwisisa kuti havagone kupa hutano mudunhu reNorth Dakota nezvese zviri kuitika. Saka, kunyangwe dare rakaisa murambidzo pakurambidzwa kwekutanga, hapana mukana wekubvisa nhumbu muNorth Dakota.
Uye ndiwo mamiriro atiri kutaura nezvawo. Tiri kutaura nezve vakadzi nevanhu vane pamuviri vanofanirwa kufamba mazana ezviuru zvemamaira kuti vawane rubatsiro, vanaamai vanoshanda, vanhu vane vana vagara - vanhu vazhinji vanotsvaga kubviswa nhumbu vatove nevana - vachifanirwa kuona nzira yekuchengeta vana. , mawaniro egasi, mawanirwe echokufambisa, matorerwe mamwe mazuva kubasa, kuti mungowana mukana weinofanira kunge iri kodzero huru, yakakosha yevanhu yavakavimbisa kwemakore anoda kusvika makumi mashanu munyika ino. Saka, hachisi chinhu chinotyisa. Uye ndinoziva kuti mumwe wangu achakwanisa kukuudza zvakawanda nezve zviri kuitika pasi.
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Zvakanaka, Mini Timmaraju, ndanga ndichida kukubvunza nezve dzimwe dzenyaya dzepamusoro dzakatobuda pachena. Vamwe vavo vari kutonhorwa chaizvo.
MINI TIMMARAJU: Hongu.
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Paive neBaton Rouge, Louisiana, mugari aive nepamuviri mavhiki gumi, akanyimwa kubvisa pamuviri pachipatara cheLouisiana, kunyangwe ultrasound yakaratidza kuti chibereko chake chaikura chisina dehenya. Mamiriro acho, anozivikanwa se acrania, haaoneki pane rondedzero yemamiriro anogamuchirwa ekubvisa pamuviri muLouisiana. MuFlorida, makanga mune imwe nherera ine makore 10 okukura yakarayirwa kuti itakure pamuviri wayo kusvikira panguva, pashure pokunge yakumbira dare maruramiro okubvisa, ichipupurira kuti yakanga, inonokora mashoko, “isina kugadzirira kuva nomwana.” Asi dare revatongi vatatu rakaramba chikumbiro ichi, rikatonga kuti musikana “akanga asati aona ... akanga akura zvakakwana kuti asarudze kana obvisa pamuviri pake.” Mhosva idzi padzinenge dzichiwedzera kuoneka kune veruzhinji, munotarisira kuti chii?
MINI TIMMARAJU: Saka, ndinofunga mhinduro mbiri huru dzandinadzo kune izvi. Uye ndinokutendai nekubvunza mubvunzo uyu. Imwe, vamiriri vanga vachitaura nezvenyaya idzi kwemakumi emakore kune veRepublican vanonyanyisa mumatunhu aya. Saka, iwe wakaridza clip yemumiriri weSouth Carolina achiita zvekukatyamadzwa nemhedzisiro yezviito zvake achitsigira bhiri rine dambudziko uye kurambidzwa. Izvi ndizvo zvinoitika nekurambidzwa kubvisa pamuviri. Uye takaona makumi emakumi emakumi emakore ezvirambidzo zvakanangana nevanobvisa nhumbu munzvimbo zhinji, zhinji munyika ino dzakatoisa kuchengetedza kubvisa nhumbu kusingasvikike kune ruzhinji rwevanhu vekumaruwa, vanhu vane ruvara, vanhu vasina nzira, nekuda kwekurambidzwa kwemubatanidzwa. pamari yekubvisa pamuviri. Saka, zvakakosha kuti unzwisise, idzi nyaya dzinotyisa dziri kuuya kuruzhinji dzave kutoitika munzvimbo zhinji dzenyika.
Imwe pfungwa yandiri kuda kutaura ndosaka kurambidza - kurambidzwa kwakazara kuri kunetsa, asi ndosaka kungopfuudza kurambidzwa wobva wawedzera zvisingaite. Rudyi? Iwe uchangobva kutaura pamusoro pekuti boka revatongi vatatu raifanira kuita sei kutema nzira inoponesa upenyu kuna amai nemamiriro avo ezvinhu, handiti? Iwe unoda here mapaneru evatongi vatatu nevakuru vechipatara vanoita sarudzo mumatare ehupenyu nerufu? Iyo inzira isingashiviriri zvachose yekubata hutano hwekuzvara munyika ino. Uye tichifunga kuti nhumbu inoparadza uye ine ngozi sei - inguva ine njodzi kuvakadzi vazhinji muhupenyu hwavo, imimba - isu tinofanirwa kunge takamirira mavhiki nemavhiki uye tichikumbira vemitemo, mapaneru, vatariri kuti vaite izvi zvinoponesa hupenyu?
Saka, nyaya idzi dziri kuwedzera kutyisa. Zvawakaona masvondo mashoma apfuura muKansas chiratidzo chezvinofungwa neruzhinji rweAmerica nezvezvirambidzo izvi. Uye kana vakabvunzwa zvakananga kuti vanonzwa sei nezvazvo, vakajeka zvisina mubvunzo: Havadi hurumende mubhizinesi ravo, havadi kurambidzwa uye kurambidzwa, uye vakagadzirira kurwisa.
AMY GOODMAN: Dr. Bhavik Kumar, uri kuTexas, uye uri chiremba. The trigger law uchangotanga kushanda unoita mhosva kuti ubvise nhumbu. Unotarisana ne $100,000 faindi uye hupenyu hwemujere. Mhinduro yako?
DR. BHAVIK KUMAR: Hongu, ichi chave kurambidzwa kwechitatu kubvisa pamuviri kubva pakapidigurwa Dobbs. Uye sezvakataurwa naMini, Texas yanga iri mumashure-.nemharapara nyika kwerinenge gore ikozvino, neSeneti Bill 8. Saka, chaizvoizvo, pasi, izvi hazvichinje chero chinhu. Kubvisa nhumbu kwave nenguva kusati kwawanikwa muTexas, uye kuri kuramba kusingasvikike, zvichireva kuti vanhu vari kuyedza kuwana rubatsiro, kungave kubvisa nhumbu, vanhu varikubva pamuviri, vanhu vane nhumbu yaidiwa vakamboita chimwe chinhu. zvakaipa, kana kunyange vanhu vane ectopic pregnancy, vangasakwanisa kuwana rubatsiro rwavanoda. Uye isu tiri kuona chinhu chimwe chete ichi kutamba mune akati wandei mamwe matunhu.
Chakakosha kucherechedzwa pano nemutemo unokonzeresa - sezvawakataura, une zvirango zvehupenyu mutirongo, faindi dzemadhora zviuru zana - ndezvekuti inowedzera rimwe dombo, humwe huremu pamapfudzi evanopa hutano pavanenge vachiedza kufambisa zvavanogona uye zvavanogona. 'Kuita, funga nezvavanofanira kubata, angave magweta muchipatara kana mukamuri yekukurumidzira, kubata komiti yezvetsika. Uye semutarisiri wehutano, sachiremba, pandinenge ndichifunga nezvekuchengeta murwere, chinhu chekupedzisira chandinofanira kunge ndichifunga nezvacho ndechekuti gweta ripi randinofanira kubvunza, mutemo upi wandinofanira kufunga nezvawo, izvo zvirango zvingave. , pandinoita sarudzo nemurwere.
Zvandakaona mumakore manomwe apfuura ekupa rubatsiro rwekubvisa pamuviri muTexas ndezvekuti zvematongerwo enyika zvakawana nzira yazvo mukamuri rangu rebvunzo, munzvimbo yangu yehutano. Izvo, munoziva, zvakanyura nzira yayo mune zvese zvandinoita semupi wehutano. Uye hazvina kunaka, nekuti vanhu vari kutambura. Takanzwa nyaya dzinoverengeka kubva kuSouth Carolina, kubva kuOhio nedzimwe nzvimbo, muLouisiana, nezve zvakaitika kune vamwe vanhu. Asi idzi inyaya dzatinonzwa zuva rega rega. Kune mazana, kana zvisiri zviuru, zvevanhu vari kusangana nezvinhu zvakafanana. Uye ndinotyira kuti zvinhu zvinongoramba zvichinyanya kuipa kana tikasaita chero chinhu uye kuvhota vanhu ava kunze.
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Uye, Dr. Kumar, wataura nezvekufanira kubvunza magweta. Nezvirambidzo zvitsva izvi, chii chinonzi kubatsira nokubvisa pamuviri? Izvo zviri pamutemo zviri pachena here?
DR. BHAVIK KUMAR: Kwete. Zvakare, mitemo iyi inopasiswa nevezvematongerwo enyika vasiri vapi vehutano. Saka, kungave kuri kubatsira uye kubatsira, kungave kuri kusajeka uku kwenjodzi dzekurapa, izvi hazvina kunyatsotsanangurwa. Uye isu tiri kuona iyo ichitamba, uko kune mhirizhonga, uye paine nyonganiso, uye zvakare kune iyi inotyisa mhedzisiro apo vanhu, vangave vari kupa ruzivo, senge mari yekubvisa nhumbu, kana varapi kana vanamukoti vari kuyedza kuchengeta varwere kana. zvinouya kunjodzi dzekurapa, hazvina kunyatsotsanangurwa. Saka makiriniki nezvipatara zvinosiiwa kuti vaone zvavanogona nezvavasingakwanise kuita, uye kuona kuti injodzi yakadii yavanoda kutora. Uye zvakare, izvo hazvina kunaka. Kune vanhu vari kuyedza kutarisira, vachiedza kuwana ruzivo, uye ivo vari mune iyi limbo yekusaziva zvekuita, zvekubvunza, zvavanogona uye zvavasingakwanise kutaura. Uye zvinhu izvi zviri kutanga kusiyana nekiriniki, nenyika. Uye zvakare, hazvina kunaka, nekuti vanhu vari kutambura panguva ino.
AMY GOODMAN: Saka, Dr. Bhavik Kumar, taura zvakanyanya. Ndinoreva, iwe uri nePlanned Parenthood muHouston, muTexas. Chakaita sei? Texas yakaita sei ikozvino, kana zvasvika pakuedza kuwana rubatsiro rwekubereka? Makiriniki mangani akavharwa? Ndinoreva, unoita sei? Wakambobvisa nhumbu kare, uye haudaro?
DR. BHAVIK KUMAR: Hongu, zvachose. Pataikwanisa, taipa rubatsiro rwekubvisa pamuviri. Saka, bhiri reSeneti 8 risati ratanga kushanda, raive rinenge gore rapfuura, taigona kupa rubatsiro rwekubvisa pamuviri kusvika padanho repamutemo. Saka, ruzhinji rwevanhu vatingaona vanokodzera kubvisa nhumbu muno mudunhu, padyo nekwavanogara. Zvechokwadi, pakanga pane zviverengero zvakawanda zvakarambidzwa zvakanga zvatova pamabhuku, uye naizvozvo mamiriro acho akanga asina kunaka. Vanhu vaingofanira kumirira angangoita maawa makumi maviri nemana, vachipfuura nemune zvimwe zvipingamupinyi kuti vawane rubatsiro rwavanoda. Vanhu vaisabvumidzwa kushandisa inishuwarenzi yavo. Asi kubva pakatanga kushanda Seneti Bill 24, uye, chokwadi, mumwedzi miviri yadarika nerambidzo nhatu dzekubvisa, nhasi ini handibvumidzwe kupa chero rubatsiro rwekubvisa nhumbu kune chero munhu kana paine nhumbu. Uye zvakafanana kune vanhu vanouya kukamuri yekukurumidzira. Iye zvino, tava kukwanisa kuona vanhu vasati vabvisa pamuviri. Saka, kana vachida ultrasound, kana vachida chero rudzi rwebasa reropa, tinogona kupa izvozvo. Uyezve, kune vanhu vakabvisa pamuviri kune imwe nyika, isu tinogona kuramba tichivaona kuti vatariswe.
Zvakakosha kuziva kuti vanhu vari kufamba kunze kwenyika. Uye ndizvo zviri kuitika muTexas uye munharaunda gumi nenhanhatu uko kune kurambidzwa kubvisa nhumbu kuri kuita. Uye vanhu vari kufamba dzimwe nguva mazana, kana zviuru, zvemamaira, zvinoreva nguva yekusava pabasa, kutsvaga kuchengetwa kwevana, kufambisa mabasa akawanda avangava nawo. Uye, hongu, kune vamwe vanhu vasingakwanisi kufamba. Ndakaona vanhu vasina kunyorwa uye vachiti, "Ini handigone kuisa panjodzi kuti mumwe munhu azive mamiriro angu ezvinyorwa kana mhuri yangu ichidzingwa." Ndakaona vanhu vakasungirirwa kune mumwe anoshungurudza mumwe wake, anondiudza kuti, "Zvakaoma kwandiri kuti ndisvike kukiriniki pano nhasi, ingangoita mashanu, mamaira gumi. Handikwanise kuenda kune imwe nyika. " Uye dzimwe nguva handizivi zvinoitika kuvanhu ava. Vanokwanisa kuzviita kune imwe nyika kuti vawane rubatsiro rwavanoda, kana kuti vanomanikidzwa kugara nepamuviri. Uye izvo hazvina kunaka, kusarongeka. Vari kuita sarudzo dzine musoro pamusoro pezvakanakira ivo. Vanoziva kuti havagoni kuva nepamuviri. Vanoziva kuti haisi nguva yakakodzera yekuti vave mubereki. Uye pachinzvimbo, ivo vanosiiwa vasina imwe sarudzo. Uye icho chave chiri chokwadi kwerinenge gore ikozvino muTexas.
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Uye, Dr. Kumar, kubva pakaputsika Roe v. Wade, uye, muTexas, S.B. 8, mamiriro ekunze anga akaita sei maererano nekushungurudzwa nevanorwisa kubvisa pamuviri uye mhirizhonga inogona kuitika kune varapi vehutano?
DR. BHAVIK KUMAR: Ehe, kushungurudzwa uye, kutaura chokwadi, hugandanga hwatinoona pakati pevanopesana nekubvisa pamuviri hwave huripo kwenguva yakati rebei, uye chokwadi hwakaramba huripo. Kunyangwe isu tisiri kupa rubatsiro rwekubvisa pamuviri pari zvino muTexas, tichine varatidziri vari kushungurudza vashandi, vari kushungurudza varwere vari kuedza kuwana kumwe kuchengetwa, kungave kwekuronga mhuri, sekudzivirira kubata pamuviri, kana kuongororwa njovhera, kana kungouya kuzotsvaga mazamu. uye kuongororwa gomarara remuromo wechibereko. Vari kushungurudza munhu wese anouya mukiriniki yedu.
Zvakakoshawo kuziva kuti magandanga aya ari kunze kwekiriniki yedu anonyatsobatana nevematongerwo enyika vari kupa mitemo iyi inorambidza kubvisa pamuviri. Iri kufamba kumwe, kusina midzi mukugara zvakanaka kwevarwere vedu, mukugara zvakanaka kweTexans uye vanhu vari kuedza kuwana rubatsiro rwekubereka. Uye inofanira kumira. Tave tichitaura izvi kwenguva yakati. Isu tanga tichiudza vezvematongerwo enyika nezvekukuvadza kuchaitika kana tikapasisa mitemo iyi. Iwe unoziva, zvinonetesa, sechiremba, kuudza vanhu vasiri vashandi vezvokurapa nezvekukuvara uku, nezve izvo zviito zvechisimba izvi zviri kuita, kana iri chisimba chakanangana nevanhu kana chisimba chiri muchimiro chemitemo iyi yerusaruraganda uye yekirasi. Asi ivo havana kuteerera, uye, zvinosuruvarisa, vari kuona mhedzisiro yezvinhu izvi kutamba iko zvino. Saka, zvakare, ndinoda chaizvo kudaidza vanhu kuti vatore matanho. Takave nebudiriro muKansas, uye ndinovimba tichaona kubudirira kwakafanana munaNovember.
AMY GOODMAN: Ini ndanga ndichidawo, nekukurumidza, kukubvunza iwe, Dr. Bhavik Kumar, nezve dare redzimhosva rekukwidza mutongo uchipokana nemutemo weArkansas unorambidza kurapwa kunosimbisa murume kana mukadzi kune vana transgender, dare revatongi vatatu rinotonga kwenguva pfupi kurambidza mutemo - kuti mutemo. inofanira kuramba ichishanda apo matambudziko emutemo achienderera mberi. Iyo nyaya yese yetrans care uye kuti inobatana sei nekuchengeta kubereka?
DR. BHAVIK KUMAR: Ehe, waita basa nekubvunza mubvunzo iwoyo. Ndinofunga kuti pane zvakawanda zvakafanana pakati pezviviri izvi. Ndiri mubatsiri wekubvisa pamuviri. Ini ndinopawo trans care. Uye saka zviri pachena kwandiri kuti bhuku rekutamba iro takaona nekuchengetedza kubvisa pamuviri, uko waive mutemo mumwechete, raive boka rimwe chete rainangwa - mune iyi nyaya, vadiki - yaive nyika imwe, uye zvishoma nezvishoma, zvishoma nezvishoma, takaona kupidigura kodzero dzemunhu wese. Uye tiri pano nemharapara kupidiguka. Kubvisa pamuviri hakusvikiki munyika dzakawanda. Uye ini ndinogona kuona maitiro akafanana netrans care, kwatine Alabama iyo yapasisa mutemo, isu tine Arkansas izvozvi, tine matare anotonga zvingaitika nezvisingagone kuitika.
Pakupera kwezuva, tinoziva kuti kutarisira uku kwakachengeteka. Isu tinoziva izvozvo - uye ndinotaura izvi sachiremba anopa rubatsiro urwu, akadzidziswa kupa rubatsiro urwu - kuchengetedza uku kunoponesa hupenyu. Inoderedza kugona kwevanhu - inoderedza kuzviuraya kwevanhu. Inoponesa hupenyu hwevanhu. Zvakakosha kuti vanhu vakwanise kuwana rubatsiro urwu, kunyanya vadiki.
Uye zvatiri kuona nevanopikisa ndezvekuti vari kunanga vanhu vari kuMaodzanyemba nyika uye kunangana nevanotambura zvakanyanya pakati pedu. Muchiitiko chino, vana. Uye saka, zvakare, iyi ndiyo imwe nyaya yakanyatsobatana nekufamba kwekurwisa kubvisa nhumbu, uko vanhu vanotsigira mitemo inorambidza kubvisa nhumbu vanotsigirawo iyi mitemo inopikisa.
Pakupera kwezuva, kwandiri sechiremba, idzi sarudzo dzinofanira kusiiwa pakati pangu, varwere vangu. Tinofanira kushandisa sainzi nemushonga uye kuraira varwere vedu pane zvakavanakira uye kuvarega vachisarudza zvavanoda kuita nehupenyu hwavo nemiviri yavo uye nekusimudzira hunhu hwavo nehunhu.
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Uye ndinoda kudzosa Mini Timmaraju muhurukuro. Sarudzo yazvino - ndinofunga yaive neChitatu - nemutongi wemubatanidzwa muIdaho -
MINI TIMMARAJU: Hongu.
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: - kuvharira zvikamu zvezvinokonzeresa kurambidza kubvisa nhumbu, ungataura nezvazvo here?
MINI TIMMARAJU: Chokwadi. KuIdaho, Dhipatimendi reJustice rakaunza kukwikwidzana nekupa pa EMTALA, chidimbu chekupa rubatsiro rwechimbichimbi. Uye, tarisa, muIdaho, dare rakati, "Tarisa, iwe" - kurambidzwa kuchiri munzvimbo, izvo zvinonetsa zvikuru. Asi danho rakanaka nderekuti kana murwere - zvakare, achifanira kuzviratidza, uye chiremba anofanirwa kuzviratidza, saka hazvina kunaka - asi kana murwere achigona kuratidza kuti ane emergency, vanogona kuwana mukana mune emergency. nzvimbo yekubvisa pamuviri. Nekuda kwezvikonzero zvese izvo Dr. Kumar vachangobva kutaura, izvi zvichiri kunetsa, asi inhanho yekutanga yakakosha, nekuti uyu muenzaniso wekuti hutongi hweBiden huri kutora chimiro chakasimba cherusununguko rwekubereka uye kodzero dzekubereka uye kuyedza kushandisa zvese. maturusi ari mubhokisi ravo rematurusi, kunyanya DOJ, kupindira mune dzimwe nyaya dzinonetsa zvikuru.
AMY GOODMAN: Zvakanaka, ndinoda kukutendai nekuva nesu. Pane zvakawanda zvekutaura nezvazvo, uye isu ticharamba tichidaro. Mini Timmaraju ndiye mutungamiri weNARAL Pro-Choice America. Ari kutaura nesu kubva kuPhiladelphia. Uye Dr. Bhavik Kumar ndiye mutungamiriri wezvokurapa weprimary and trans care pa Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast muHouston.
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