Janine Jackson akabvunzurudza mugadziri wemufirimu Rick Goldsmith nezvegwaro rake Zvakabviswa nokuda Zvikamu.
Janine Jackson: Vagadziri vemafirimu havatange kana kamera ichitenderera. Basa racho rinosanganisira kwete kungounganidza ruzivo pamusoro pechinyorwa, asi kutanga hukama-dzimwe nguva nevanhu vasina chikonzero chekuvimba kuti kamera iri pachiso chavo inotungamirira kune chero chinhu chakanaka kwavari.
Saizvozvo, vagadziri vemafirimu havaitwe kana firimu rapera, kunyanya munhau-kwese-kwese-kwese-nguva-yenguva nyika yatiri kurarama mairi ikozvino. Kungogadzira chimwe chinhu hakuna kufanana nekuchitungamira kune angade kana kuda kuchiona, kuti chibatsire kuve nemhedzisiro.
Pakati perimwe basa rake, Rick Goldsmith ndiye mugadziri wemufirimu kuseri kwemafirimu maviri akakosha ezvenhau muUnited States: Taura Chokwadi uye Mhanya: George Seldes uye American Press uye Murume Ane Ngozi Yakanyanya muAmerica: Daniel Ellsberg uye Pentagon Mapepa. Firimu rake idzva nderechitatu mune ino yakanangana netrilogy; inonzi Yakabviswa Zvikamu: American Journalism paBrink. Uye anobatana nesu zvino kuti titaure nezvazvo. Ari kubatana nesu kubva kuOakland, California. Welcome back to CounterSpin, Rick Goldsmith.
Rick Goldsmith: Mhoro, Janine, ndatenda zvikuru nekuve neni pachirongwa.
JJ: Akangwara sezvatiri isu tese mazuva ano, ndinofunga pfungwa ye capitalism semusika-yakavakirwa, iyo inoita senge inoreva zvichibva pasarudzo dzevanhu-iyo yakatengeswa zvakanyanya senyaya yekuti kune vanhu vanofunga, zvakanaka, sekuvimba kwandaiita bepanhau remuno, ndinofungidzira kuti rakanga richingorasikirwa nemari yakawanda zvekuti rakanga risiri bhizinesi rinoenderera. Uye saka yaifanira kufa.
Kudzingwa, kuvharwa, izvo vanhu vazhinji vanoona senhau dzenhau dzichibva "kure nekukwana" kuenda ku "izvo gehena," zvinoratidzwa zvinosuruvarisa asi neimwe nzira isingadzivisike. Uye ndinofunga kuti iyi firimu inopindira mune iyo nyaya. Asi paive neimwe spark here kana kuti mubvunzo wakaita kuti utange kuita Zvakabviswa nokuda Zvikamu?
RG: Pane chiitiko chakaitika makore matanhatu apfuura, ikozvino, uye chakanzi the Denver Rebellion. Uye zvakaitika ndezvevarume nevakadzi vepepanhau pa Denver Post vakamukira muridzi wavo, aive hedge fund. Uye yakanga ichangobva kunzwisiswa kuti hedge funds yaive nemhedzisiro yakaipa panhau. Uye vakatsoropodza varidzi vavo, vakazvitora ivo pachavo. Uye rudzi urwu rwekuderera kwehutori venhau hwemunharaunda hwakaonekwa, kutanga nevatori venhau pachavo. Uye ndivo vaive nzimbe mumugodhi wemarasha kuti vataure nyaya iyi kune vamwe vese.
Saka riini Ndakaziva zvekumukira uku, Chimurenga cheDenver, pane zvinhu zvakawanda zvakasvetuka kwandiri. Imwe yaive yekuti, sei mumwe munhu angayedze kuita nemaune pasi utori venhau? Uye zviviri, hedge funds yaitora bhizinesi raikundikana: Sei vaizoita izvozvo, uye vaizoita sei mari? Zvino, vatatu, vaive, apa vaive vatori venhau vasingawanzo taura nezveindasitiri yavo, uye ndivo vaitaura nyaya. Saka kwandiri, izvo zvaive zvakapfuma zvekupinda mazviri ndokuti, "Chii chiri kuitika pano? Uye ini ndingawedzera chimwe chinhu kune iyi nyaya?"
JJ: Ini ndinofunga izvo zvinonyanya kunakidza, nekuti nhoroondo dzei Amazon zviri kuita, kana zviri kuitwa neindasitiri yemotokari, vanenge vanogara vari pamusoro pezviri kuitwa nevaridzi nevagovani. Uye kana iri nyaya yevashandi, ichava rimwe zuva, pane rimwe peji. Uye kunyanya, pamwe, ichokwadi mune zvenhau, mune izvo, sezvawangotaura, vashandi, vatori venhau, vatori vemifananidzo kazhinji havanzwe kuti vanogona kana kuti vanofanira kutaura sevashandi. Kumutori wenhau, "kuzviita iwe nyaya," inodaidzwa, inonyangadza. Saka zvanga zvisina kunyanya…zvauri kutaura, waisafanirwa kuita kuti vatori venhau vataure. Vatori venhau vakaita senge, "Kwete, tinoda kuburitsa nyaya iyi."
RG: Izvo ndizvo. Uye izvo zvaive zvakasiyana nezvenyaya yavo, asi ini ndaifanira-ndinofunga kuti chinhu chawakataura pamusoro, nezve kuwana kuvimba kwavo, ndinofunga chaive chakakosha, chakakosha. Uye pamwe yaive nekuda kwemamiriro angu, uye pamwe yaingova nekuda kwekusvika, kana pamwe yaive nekuda kwechido uye hasha dzavaive vachinzwa panguva yekuderedzwa nehedge fund iyi, yavakavhurirwa. achitaura neni. Uye ndinofunga kuti mabvunzurudzo ekutanga mushure meDenver Rebellion aive akapfuma kwazvo, nekuti aive matsva mupfungwa dzavo, uye vaive vakatsamwa nazvo.
JJ: Wadzidzei? Kana iwe waifanira kutsanangurira mumwe munhu, nei mubatanidzwa-inofarira purofiti waizotenga bepa uye woriparadza, zvakanyanya, riite muvhu? Izvozvo zvine musoro sei? Izvozvo zvine musoro here?
RG: Zvakanaka, zvine musoro kana iwe uchinzwisisa kuti iyi hedge fund, uye yakawanda yakafanana nayo, iri mubhizinesi rei. Uye mutsara wakakosha pano ndewe "kushungurudzika asset investing," ingangove imhando yeWall Streetish term. Asi zvazvinoreva ndezvekuti vaigona kutenga chimwe chinhu pane zvakachipa raive bhizinesi riri kutadza, vobva vaona kuti midziyo yavo yaive yei. Uye semotokari yakashandiswa iyo inenge iri tsvina, vaigona kuibvisa kuti iite zvidimbu.
Uye munyaya iyi, yaiwanzova iyo real estate. Imba yenhau pachayo yakanga iri mudhorobha, yakanga iri pakati, uye vaigona kutenga pepanhau nokuda kwerwiyo, kutengesa chivako, zvichida kutengesa muchina wokudhinda ndokutamisa mabasa okudhinda kunze kweguta, uye vakatodzorera mari yavo, uye ipapo. zvimwe zvese muto.
Saka saka danho rinotevera rakakosha nderekuti, ngatichekei vashandi, nekuti hatidi izvi - Heath Freeman, anove mutungamiri wenyika. Alden Global Guta, akafamba achipinda mukamuri yenhau uye akashamisika akati, "Ko vanhu vose ava vanoitei?" Saka aive neruvengo rwakati kuvanhu vaishandira mapepanhau, asi zvairatidza kupenya mumaziso ake, nekuti akati, “Tinogona kuita mari, tinogona kuita mari yakawanda neizvi.” Uye ndizvo chaizvo zvavakaita.
JJ: Uye veruzhinji vakatarisana nechikamu chayo, apo Alden Global Guta kana chero hedge fund inotora bepa, havamboti, “Tichakurura izvi zvidimbu. Iyoyo haisati iri iyo PR kufamba. Izvo, muchokwadi, zvinotyisa, nekuti kazhinji, "Ticha chengetedza iyi inotadza kubuda."
RG: Ndizvo chaizvo. Uye chaizvoizvo, mushure mokunge ndapinda mubhizinesi, ndakataura nezveDenver Rebellion. Eya, kwakanga kune zviitiko zvakawanda, zvakawanda zvakazoitika mumakore anoverengeka akatevera. Uye imwe yaive iyoyo Alden Global Guta akatevera Gannett, iro rakanga riri gurusa gurusa repepanhau rehurumende munyika. USA Today rakanga riri bepa ravo guru, asi vakanga vane mapepanhau omunzvimbomo munyika yose. Uye Alden Global Guta, izvo zvaive muzvinyorwa zvavo kune vanogovana: "Takachengeta mapepanhau."
Nehurombo kwavari, panguva iyoyo, vanhu vakaita saJulie Reynolds, anga ari mutori wenhau anoferefeta akasimbiswa mufirimu redu, akange ataura zvakawanda, uye parizvino atoita zvinopfuura zana zvinyorwa. Alden Global Guta uye mapepanhau. Uye chii Alden havana kuona kuuya kuti vaizorasikirwa nehondo yehukama, uye vakaedza kutora Gannett muna 2019, uye vakakundikana.
Zvino, pane zvimwe zviitiko zvakatevera izvo, izvo zvakaita kuti zvisave zvakanyanya kune veruzhinji, asi panguva iyoyo, ndiko kwaive kukunda kukuru kwevatapi venhau, uye yaive nekuti ikozvino nhau Alden Global Guta uye zvavakanga vari pamusoro zvaive pachena, uye vaisagona kungoita manomano avo vakavharirwa magonhi.
JJ: Iko kupenya kwezuva kana kuti kujeka ndiko, pamwe ndiyo yekutanga kana yepasi, asi inzvimbo inodiwa yekutanga. Zviripachena, basa iri rine zvarinoreva kune vanhu vanoshanda munhau, chokwadi, asiwo kune wese munhu anoona uye ane hanya nemhedzisiro yekuburitswa kwenhau pahuwandu hwese hwezvinhu zvinoumba hupenyu hwedu, uye pahukama, sezvatiri isu. FAIR inogara ichitaura nezvayo, pakati pebhizinesi rezvenhau uye kutapa nhau chaiko uye kunogona kuitika munharaunda.
Saka ndinoda kukubvunza nezve Impact Campaign. Nderipi basa riri kufamba nebhaisikopo iri rakasiyana nekungove nekuratidzwa kwefirimu munyika yose? Chii chaunotarisira kuwedzera neImpact Campaign?
RG: Yedu Impact Campaign ichiri kuenderera mberi, uye tichange tiri muNew York svondo rino rinouya nekuratidzwa kwakati paFirehouse Cinema DCTV neChipiri, Kurume 26 neChitatu, Kurume 27. Uye isu tichave tichitevera. izvo nekuenda kuMinneapolis neSanta Cruz neVancouver, Washington, uye gare gare Baltimore, New England, Pennsylvania, Washington DC, munyika yose.
Chii chinangwa chezvose izvozvo? Zvakanaka, iyo firimu pachayo inzvimbo yekusvetuka yekukurukurirana nezve utori venhau. Uye isu tinoratidza, kwete chete zvikonzero zvekutorwa kwehedge fund yemapepanhau, iyo yakakura munyika ino, asiwo dzimwe mhinduro dziri kuitika, nekutanga-kune anopfuura mazana mana emapepanhau asina purofiti, ane makamuri enhau kubva kuvanhu vaviri kusvika vatatu kusvika. pamwe vanhu gumi kana makumi maviri. Kwete chaizvo kutora nzvimbo yemapepanhau, asi zvakanyanya, zvakanyanya. Panewo mafambiro ekuti vanhu vawane mari yekutora nhau dzemuno.
Uye saka tine kuratidzwa kwefirimu rinoteverwa neQ&A, kazhinji, ndinogona kunge ndiripo, pachangu kana kuti, uye pamwe mumwe munhu wenharaunda anga akacherekedza dambudziko rekutapa nhau, kutaura nezvaro, nekudyidzana. nevateereri.
Uye chii chaungaita? Kunogona kunge kuri kusangana nemumiriri wenzvimbo yako, nekuti mimwe mitemo iri kugadzirisa dambudziko iri, kana kuti iri kuwedzera ruzivo rwako rwekuti ndezvipi nhepfenyuro dzemunharaunda munharaunda mako zvausiri kumbofunga nezvazvo? Uye inzira yekuita kuti vanhu vanobva munharaunda uye vatori venhau vanobva munharaunda iyoyo vabatane, vapinde mukamuri rimwe chete, kuita kuti vataure.
Uye ini ndinofunga kuti zvinongori nekusimudzira veruzhinji kuziva, uye kusimudza huwandu hwenhaurirano nezve dambudziko iri munhau dzemunharaunda, uye kuti zvinokanganisa sei democracy, isu tichawana nzira yekubuda nayo. Uye mhinduro munharaunda yega yega dzakati siyanei, nekuda kweruzivo rwenharaunda iyoyo. Uye ndinofunga icho chinhu chakanakisa, nekuti ipapo mhinduro dzinove dzakati dzika kugadzirwa munharaunda.
JJ: Uye vanhu vangadzidza sei zvakawanda pamusoro peizvi, kana kuti pamwe vauye nazvo kudhorobha ravo?
RG: Mubvunzo mukuru. Huya kune webhusaiti yedu, StrippedForPartsFilm.com, sezvazvinonzwika. Kana iwe neimwe nzira uine dambudziko kuisvika, chete Zvakabviswa nokuda Zvikamu uye google it. Iwe uchasvika kune yedu webhusaiti. Iwe unogona kutibata nesu kana iwe uchida kubatsira kuronga kuongorora munharaunda yako. Isu tiri pano, uye tine nzira dzekuita kuti izvozvo zviitike. Uye isu tinogona kuzviita newe uye nerubatsiro rwako.
JJ: Zvakanaka, zvino; tanga tichitaura nemugadziri wemufirimu Rick Goldsmith. Iwe unogona kudzidza zvakawanda nezvefirimu Zvakabviswa nokuda Zvikamu, uye Impact Campaign inoenda nayo, paStrippedForPartsFilm.com. Ndinokutendai zvikuru, Rick Goldsmith, nekubatana nesu svondo rino CounterSpin.
RG: Zvinondifadza. Ndatenda nekutaura neni.
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