Ngemuva kokuvela kwakhe namhlanje ekuseni phambi kweSenate yase-U.S Ikomidi Elingaphansi Laphakade Lokuphenya, amaNgisi Hlonipha amaphathi UGeorge Galloway kwaxoxwa naye kwi-Cable News Network.
I-CNN, ngenhlanhla, iphinde yasakaza izingxenye ze-Galloway "bukhoma" kuthelevishini - ihlanganiswe nendaba mayelana nendiza yezohwebo ephuma e-Italy iya e-Boston's Logan Airport, kodwa yaphambukela e-Bangor, e-Maine, ngemuva kokuba i-National Transportation Security Administration inqume ukuthi "umgibeli ugibele. leyo ndiza [ine] igama elifana negama elisohlwini lokungandiza,โ njengoba uKathleen Koch we-CNN abika ngakho.
Ngesikhathi sobufakazi bukaGalloway, umsakazi we-CNN's studio uWolf Blitzer kanye nentatheli ye-CNN's Capitol Hill uRichard Roth bavumelana kakhulu ngokuthi, njengoba uBlitzer wayezokubeka, uGalloway "ukhiphe isitatimende esibuhlungu," "ekhwele wadilika kuSenator Coleman, abaphathi bakaBush, umphumela, hhayi nje ukwenza impi ibe yiphutha, kodwa okuholela ekulimaleni okukhulu kakhulu,โ i-Galloway iwuhlobo lwe-โvitriolโ umuntu โangayizwaโฆ
Ngemuva kwalokho, uRoth we-CNN ubuze uGalloway ukuthi ucabangani โukuvela kwakhe kufeze ikomiti elikusole ngenkohlakalo yokuthengwa kukawoyela ngokudla?โ
U-Galloway uphendule (I-Transcript 051702CN.V85, May 17, 2005):
Eqinisweni, bengingekho lapha ukuzoncibilikisa izinhliziyo zamalungu amabili ekomiti elize ukuzolalela. Bengikhuluma ngale kwalezi zindonga kubabukeli bethelevishini ekhaya. futhi angizanga njengommangaleli, kodwa njengommangaleli.
Ngakho-ke angicabangi ukuthi ngenze okuningi ngaphandle kokuhlazisa uSenator Coleman ngobuncane obungenangqondo balokho okwakufanele akubeke etafuleni. Kodwa ngithemba ukuthi ngifinyelele emphakathini obanzi, ngecala lami elibanzi, ngokumelene nempi, ngokumelene nezigwegwe, kanye nomama wazo zonke izikrini zentuthu, okuyilokho leli komidi leSigele eliphenyayo elihlanganyela kukho.
I-FYA (โOkwezingobo zakho zomlandoโ): Ngezansi uzothola ingcaphuno evela kumbhalo ophelele ka-George Galloway wokuvela kwangomhla ziyi-17 kuMeyi 2005 ngaphambi kweKomidi Elingaphansi Elihlala Phambili LeSigele Lophenyo. Uxolo angikwazi ukuphinde ngikhiqizele futhi noma ngikunike isixhumanisi sokuqulwa kwecala lonke ngawe lapha. Umthombo yi-Federal Documents Clearing House (FDCH), futhi unegunya impela, ngingakuqinisekisa. Futhi ukuze nazi, ngithathe inkululeko yokususa izitatimende zawo wonke umuntu ngaphandle kukaGeorge Galloway nabaphenyi bakhe ababiliโuSenator waseRiphabhlikhi uNorm Coleman kanye noSenator weDemocratic Alliance uCarl Levinโkusukela ngesikhathi uSenator Coleman ethula okokuqala uGalloway kuqhubeke. .
Ikomidi Elingaphansi Laphakade Lokuphenya (Ikhasi eliyisiqalo), Ikomidi LeSigele Lase-U.S. Lezokuphepha Kwezwe kanye Nezindaba Zikahulumeni
Umbiko Ngokwabiwa Kwamafutha Kunikezwe u-Charles Pasqua no-George Galloway, Ikomidi Elingaphansi Laphakade Lophenyo, iSigele sase-U.S., Meyi 17, 2005
"Uwoyela Wokuthonya: Indlela uSaddam Asebenzisa Ngayo Uwoyela Ukuklomelisa Abezombangazwe Ngaphansi Kohlelo LweZizwe Ezihlangene Lwe-Oil-for-Food, "I-Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, May 17, 2005. (Sicela uqaphele iqiniso lokuthi ubufakazi bofakazi obuyisithupha kuphela kwabayisikhombisa obufakwe kungobo yomlando lapha. Lobo obungakagcinwa? ObukaGeorge Galloway. Njengoba leli khasi lewebhu lichaza: "UMnu Galloway wenze njalo. ungathumeli isitatimende.")Inhlonipho: I-Unity Coaltion (Ikhasi Lasekhaya lase-U.K.)
"Ilungu lePhalamende laseBrithani lichitha izimangalo zase-Iraq, lithatha iSenate,โ Sue Pleming, Reuters, May 17, 2005
"Isikhulu soMnyango Wezwe ozohola abaphathi be-U.N,โ Evelyn Leopold, Reuters, May 17, 2005
"Ummeli waseBrithani ugxeke amaSenenja,โ Ken Guggenheim, Associated Press, May 18, 2005
"Ummeli waseBrithani ugebenga amaSenator ase-U.S,โ uBob Deans, Atlanta Journal-uMthethosisekelo, May 18, 2005
"Uphenyiloli wokudla uwoyela udalula imihuzuko yamasiko,โ uPeter Grier noFaye Bowers, Christian Science Monitor, May 18, 2005
"Ukuhlaselwa kukaGalloway eCapitol Hill,โ uFrancis Harris, Daily Telegraph, May 18, 2005
"I-Galloway ithatha impi emelene nempi iye e-US ngomdlalo omangalisayo eSenate,โ u-Andrew Sparrow, Daily Telegraph, May 18, 2005
"Izithuko ziyandiza ngaphambi kokuthi kuqale impi,โ u-Alec Russell, Daily Telegraph, May 18, 2005
"Ilungu lePhalamende laseBrithani liyakuphika ukuxhumana nohlelo lukawoyela wokudla,โ uMark Turner no-Edward Alden, Izikhathi Zezezimali, May 18, 2005
"Ulimi lukaGalloway lwe-acerbic luphazamisa abaphenyi bakhe bezepolitiki,โ uMark Turner no-Edward Alden, Izikhathi Zezezimali, May 18, 2005
"I-Leftwing diehard nenkathi edlule enemibala nekhono lokukhuluma,โ uFrederick Studemann, Izikhathi Zezezimali, May 18, 2005
"Umlawuli wenhlangano esiza abantulayo ucubungula uphenyo olusha,โ uJimmy Burns, Izikhathi Zezezimali, Meyi 18, 2005 [$$$$$]
"Ubufakazi bukaGalloway: โAngiyena, futhi angikaze ngibe umhwebi kawoyelaโ,โ uJulian Borger, The Guardian, May 18, 2005
"Azikho izambulo ezintsha - kodwa ungalindeli ukuthi ingxabano izosuka,โ u-Ewen MacAskill, The Guardian, May 18, 2005
"I-Galloway kanye nomama wakho wonke ama-invective,โ u-Oliver Burkeman, The Guardian, May 18, 2005
"UGalloway utshela abamangaleli base-US: aninalutho kimi,โ uMichael Settle noLouise Hancock, I-Herald, May 18, 2005
"I-Galloway's showdown: Ukusebenza kwe-bravura kodwa umbuzo usasele,โ Umhleli, I-Herald, May 18, 2005
"Ukulwa nowoyela wokudla,โ uDavid Ivanovich, I-Houston Chronicle, May 18, 2005
"I-Galloway Fights Corner ku-Accuser's Home Patch,โ u-Andrew Buncombe, The Independent, May 18, 2005
"Isikhulu saseBrithani esisolwa sigxeka i-U.S. nge-Iraq,โ uMaggie Farley noJohanna Neuman, Los Angeles Times, May 18, 2005
"UGalloway uyakuphika ngokunamandla ukwenza inzuzo ngohlelo lwe-UN Oil-for-Food,โ uStephanie Griffith, Middle East Online, May 18, 2005
"Galloway: Awunalutho kimi,โ uChris Hughes, I-Mirror, May 18, 2005
"UGalloway Uqhamuke Elwa Kodwa AmaYanks Ahluleka Ukumbeka Iglovu,โ uChristopher Hitchens, I-Mirror, May 18, 2005
"I-Galloway Idelela I-U.S. Probe ye-U.N.,โ uClaudia Rossett, New York Sun, May 18, 2005
"Ummeli waseBrithani ugxeka amaSenator e-Iraq,โ uJudith Miller, New York Times, May 18, 2005
"I-Galloway Bluster Yehlulekile Ukuqinisekisa ISenethi,โ uGethin Chamberlain, ngoSelkirk, May 18, 2005
"Mhla u-Garrulous George adubula eSenate ngemiphongolo yomibili,โ uBen Macintyre, The Times, May 18, 2005
"UGalloway akaphenduki njengoba ehlasela izigele zaseMelika,โ uJames Bone, The Times, May 18, 2005
"UBriton uqhumisa abamangaleli base-U.S", uTim Harper, I-Toronto Star, May 18, 2005
โUsopolitiki WaseBrithani Uyakuphika Ukuhlomula Ngamafutha Okudla,โ u-Yochi J. Dreazen, Wall Street Journal, May 18, 2005
"I-Briton Iphika Ukuba Namalungelo Okuthenga Uwoyela Wase-Iraqi,โ uColum Lynch, Washington Post, May 18, 2005
"Ummeli waseBrithani ugxeka uphenyo,โ David R. Sands, Washington Times, May 18, 2005
"Ubani ozuze nge-$addam?โ Umhleli, Washington Times, May 18, 2005
"Izimali ze-Galloway charity zizobhekwa,โ u-Andrew Sparrow, Daily Telegraph, May 19, 2005
"Umhwebi kawoyela waseJordani onikeze uMariam amaphawundi-375,000,โ uMichael Settle, I-Herald, May 19, 2005
"I-Galloway: Indoda Eyathatha iMelika,โ uRupert Cornwell, The Independent, May 19, 2005
"Esikudingayo nje - i-Baathist exubene ne-Muslim lehlelo,โ uChristopher Hitchens, The Independent, Meyi 19, 2005 [$$$$$]
"Ukuqulwa kwecala loMkhandlu wePherishi Kungakholisa Kakhudlwana,โ uMark Steel, The Independent, Meyi 19, 2005 [$$$$$]
"I-Watchdog Ingase Icele Amaphoyisa Ukuba Aphenye I-Galloway Fund,โ uGethin Chamberlain, ngoSelkirk, May 19, 2005
"I-Galloway iwina ngamaphuzu kunokuba ikhishwe, kusho i-U.S.,โ uJames Bone, The Times, May 19, 2005
"Usuku Olukhulu Lwezitha ZaseBush,โ uJefferson Morley, washingtonpost.com, May 19, 2005
"Bravo, George, Ukhumbule Ubuciko Obulahlekile,โ uMatthew Norman, The Independent, Meyi 20, 2005 [$$$$$]
"Galloway: Uqinisile, noma uColeman?โ Umhleli, IMinneapolis Star Tribune, May 20, 2005
"Esiswini Sesilwane,โ Scott Ritter, The Guardian, May 21, 2005
"Amafutha Yini?โ Umhleli, Washington Post, May 21, 2005Enkululekweni Enkulu Phakamisa, Mashi 30, i-2005
Uzungu Kakhulu I, May 13, 2005
Imibhalo Yezepolitiki ye-FDCH
Meyi 17, 2005 ULwesibili
UHLOBO: IKOMIDI LOKULALELA
IKOMIDI: IKOMIDI LESENATE LEKUVIKELA ENDAWENI YASEKHAYA KANYE NEZINDABA ZIKAHULUMENI
IKOMIDI ELINCANE: IKOMIDI LOKUPHENYA ELINJALO
ISIHLOKO: USENENTA WASE-U.S. NORM COLEMAN (R-MN) UBAMBE UKULALELA NGOHLELO LOKUDLA NGE-U.N. OIL-FOR-FOOD
INDAWO: WASHINGTON, D.C.
USENENTA WASE-U.S. NORM COLEMAN (R-MN)
USIHLALO
USENENTA WASE-U.S. U-CARL LEVIN (D-MI)
ILUNGU ELILINGANISILE
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COLEMAN:โฆ. Ake sibize iphaneli yesibili: UMnu. George Galloway, ilungu lePhalamende laseBethnal Green and Bow, Great Britain.
Mnu. Galloway, ngiyajabula ukuba nawe phambi kwekomiti namuhla. Engizokwenza wukufingqa kafushane ubufakazi ngaphambi kokuthi ngikunikeze ithuba lokunikeza ubufakazi obufungelwe.
Uhlelo lukawoyela wokudla lwasetshenziswa ukusekela labo ababethanda i-Iraq. OwayeyiPhini likaNdunankulu wase-Iraq uTariq Aziz kanye nePhini likaMongameli wase-Iraq uTaha Yassin Ramadan bayakuqinisekisa lokhu.
Ngingacabanga ukuthi ungavuma ukuthi imizamo yakho yokuphikisa unswinyo yamukelwa kahle umbuso.
Ngiyazi ukuthi kucashunwe kuwe izikhathi eziningi, kaningi, kodwa inkulumo yakhoโngingashoโigama elibi ku-Saddam Hussein ngomhla zingama-21 kuMasingana, 1994, lapho owathi khona kuSaddam, โMhlonishwa, Mnu. Mongameli, ngiyakubingelela egameni. ezinkulungwaneni eziningi zabantu eBrithani abamelene nesimo futhi bamelene nempi nobudlova obubhekiswe e-Iraq, bayaqhubeka nokuphikisana nempi ngezindlela zomnotho, okuhloswe ngazo ukuklinya impilo yabantu abakhulu base-Iraq."
U-COLEMAN: Wabe uqhubeka wathi (engezwakali) abantu basePalestine. Uqhube wathi, โBengicabanga ukuthi umongameli angakujabulela ukwazi ukuthi nanamuhla, eminyakeni emithathu ngemva kwempi, ngisahlangana nemindeni ebiza amadodana ayo asanda kuzalwa ngoSaddam.โ
Waqhubeka, ekugcineni, ekugcineni, wathi, โMnumzane, ngithulela isigqoko sakho, amandla akho, ukungakhathali kwakho. Futhi ngifuna wazi ukuthi sinawe." Futhi, ngikholwa ukuthi kwakungesi-Arabhu, โHata al nasa, hata al nasa, hata al-Quds,โ (ph) okusho ukuthi, โKuze kube ukunqoba, kuze kube ukunqoba eJerusalema.โ
Futhi ngizophawula ukuthi ushilo ukuthi uzisola kakhulu ngalawo mazwana nokuthi ukuphawula bekungahlosiwe ngqo kuSaddam, kodwa bekuhloswe kubantu base-Iraq.
Ekwindla ka-1999, walibangisa ohambweni lwebhasi lwezinyanga ezimbili oluya e-London ukuya e-Baghdad ukuze uthole ukwesekwa ngokususa unswinyo e-Iraq.
Sinegama lakho emibhalweni yase-Iraqi - amanye alungiselelwe ngaphambi kokuwa kweSaddam, amanye ngemva kwalokho - akhomba wena njengomunye wabanikazi bezabelo; ukuthi izabelo zakho zisetshenziswe nguFawaz Zuraiqat, osebenza ngaphansi kwegama le-Irideo (ph) Petroleum kanye ne-Middle East Advance Semiconductor ukuze empeleni aphakamise uwoyela.
Siyazi, futhi, ngokusekelwe esitatimendeni salabo ababeyizikhulu zase-Iraqi kanye neminye imibhalo futhi, emacaleni kaVladimir Zhirinovsky no-Alexander Voloshin, izincwadi kanye nemibhalo yokuthi abanikazi bezabelo babazi ukuthi izinkokhelo ezengeziwe zokwabiwa kukawoyela zakhokhelwa uSaddam Hussein nokuthi isabelo. abanikazi bebekwazi lokhu futhi banesibopho sokukhokha.
Sizwile nobufakazi obumayelana nemibhalo embalwa etholwe kuMnyango Wezamafutha wase-Iraq ekhombisa ukuthi i-Iraq yawabela kanjani uwoyela abangani nabalingani bayo.
Umbukiso we-13, owubonile, ubonise ishadi le-SOMO elibonisa ukuthi u-Vladimir Zhirinovsky usebenzelana ne-Machinoimport esigabeni 11. Lelo shadi liphinde lifake ohlwini lwenkontileka M-1104 ne-Middle East Advance Semiconductor.
Umbhalo waphansi 93, ubufakazi bakho mayelana ne-invoyisi yezohwebo ye-SOMO yangomhla zingama-27 kuNhlangulana, 2002, obonisa ukuthi i-Middle East Semiconductor ilayishe imiphongolo kawoyela ongahluziwe wase-Iraqi engu-2,360,860 ngokususelwe kunkontileka yokuthengisa ye-SOMO M-1104.
Umbukiso 12, sizwile ubufakazi obuphathelene nezincwadi ezivela kumqondisi omkhulu we-SOMO eziya kungqongqoshe kawoyela wase-Iraqi, obunikeza imininingwane yenkontileka i-M-1104 nokufaka kuhlu igama lakho kubakaki eduze kwe-Middle East Advance Semiconductor kanye no-Fawaz Zuraiqat, esimaziyo ukuthi uphakamise uwoyela. Nalapha futhi izitatimende zababoshiwe, okuhlanganisa nowayeyiPhini likaMongameli u-Ramadan, zaqinisekisa ukuthi igama elikubakaki, igama lakho, yilo eliphethe isabelo.
Ubufakazi bakho mayelana nenkontileka i-M-1104, eyasayinwa ngo-December 12, 2001, phakathi kwe-SOMO no-Fawaz Zuraiqat, umongameli we-Middle East Advanced Semiconductor.
Ubufakazi bakho obumayelana ne-invoyisi yezentengiso ye-SOMO B-13201 obubonisa ukuthi i-Irideo (ph) Petroleum iphakamise imiphongolo kawoyela wase-Iraqi engu-1,014,403 ngokususelwe kunkontileka yokuthengiswa kukawoyela ongahluziwe we-SOMO M-923.
Umbukiso wama-45, sizwile ubufakazi obumayelana neshadi le-SOMO elinesihloko esithi โUkwabiwa Kwamafutha Angahluziwe Phakathi Nesigaba Sesishiyagalolunye Sesivumelwano Sokusebenzisana,โ okubonisa ukuthi inkontileka i-M-923 yasetshenziswa phakathi kwe-SOMO noMnu. Fawaz Zuraiqat/George Galloway/Irideo (ph) Uwoyela.
Umbukiso wesishiyagalolunye, siphinde sezwa nobufakazi obumayelana nememo evela kumqondisi omkhulu we-SOMO eya kungqongqoshe kawoyela ecela ukugunyazwa kwenkontileka i-M-923.
COLEMAN: Lo mbhalo uhlanganisa isitembu sika-Ministry of Oil esisemthethweni sangomhla ka-1/15/2001, futhi unikeza imininingwane yenkontileka engu-M-923 esayinwe ne-Irideo (ph) Petroleum Company (Fawaz Zuraiqat-Miriam Appeal), ebonisa ukuthi umamukeli wesabelo senkontileka M. -923 kwakunguFawaz Zuraiqat noMiriam Appeal.
Mnu. Galloway, njengoba ngibonisile esitatimendeni sami sokuvula, lena akuyona inkantolo yomthetho. Leli komiti lisanda kwenza ulwazi olutholakala ngesikhathi sophenyo lwezingxoxo zalabo ababeyizikhulu zase-Iraq kanye nemibhalo yase-Iraq ezonezela ukuthi uhlelo lukawoyela lokudla lusebenze kanjani, ukuthi izabelo zanikezwa kanjani abangani abathandwayo, abanezabelo benze amakhomishini amakhulu kulabo. ukwabiwa kwezinkampani zikawoyela, lokho uRamadan akubiza ngokuthi isinxephezelo sokuxhaswa, lokho esinye isikhulu, lapho sikhuluma ngomunye umnikazi wesabelo sathi, โImpela zenze inzuzo; yiyo yonke inhloso."
Izinkokhelo ezengeziwe ezinkontilekeni zikawoyela zabuyiselwa kuhulumeni weSaddam, futhi kwakuwumthwalo womnikazi wesabelo.
Ubufakazi bukukhomba ngokusobala njengomzuzi wesabelo odlulisele izabelo ku-Fawaz Zuraiqat, owaba ngusihlalo wenhlangano yakho, uMiriam Appeal.
Izikhulu eziphezulu zase-Iraq ziqinisekisile ukuthi, empeleni, uthole izabelo zikawoyela nokuthi amadokhumenti akukhomba njengomamukeli wesabelo avumelekile.
Uma unganikeza noma yibuphi ubufakazi obubekela inselele ubuqiniso balawa madokhumenti noma izitatimende zezikhulu zase-Iraqi zangaphambili, singakujabulela lokho.
Mnu. Galloway, uvela phambi kwekomidi elincane ngaphandle kokugomela noma yimaphi amalungelo noma ukungavikeleki. Ngempela, ukubonakala kwakho phambi kwekomiti elincane kungokuzithandela futhi ngokuthanda kwakho. Akukho sicelo sokubizelwa esikhishiwe ukuze kuvikelwe ukubonakala kwakho.
Uvela phambi kwekomidi elincane mayelana nezindaba ezingaveli ngenxa yokwenza noma yimiphi imisebenzi yakho esemthethweni njengelungu lePhalamende laseBrithani, kodwa kunalokho ezithinta izenzo ozithathile esikhundleni sakho njengesakhamuzi esizimele.
Ngaphambi kokuthi siqale, ngokulandela uMthetho 6, bonke ofakazi abethula ubufakazi ngaphambi kwaleli komiti elincane kudingeka bafungiswe. Ngalesi sikhathi, ngizokucela ukuthi uvuke futhi ngicela uphakamise isandla sakho sokudla.
Uyafunga yini ubufakazi ozobunikeza ngaphambi kwaleli komiti elincane liyiqiniso, iqiniso lonke futhi akukho lutho ngaphandle kweqiniso, ngakho-ke akusize uNkulunkulu?
GALLOWAY: Ngiyabonga.
COLEMAN: Sizosebenzisa uhlelo lwesikhathi namuhla, Mnu. Galloway. Sinemizuzu eyi-10 yesitatimende sokuvula. Uma udinga isikhathi esengeziwe, sizokwamukela lokho. Futhi ungaqhubeka.
UGALLOWAY: USenator, angisekho manje futhi angikaze ngibe ngumhwebi kawoyela futhi akekho ongimele. Angikaze ngiwubone umgqomo wamafutha, ungowami, uwuthenge, udayiswe, futhi akekho ongimele.
Manje, ngiyazi ukuthi izindinganiso zehlile eminyakeni embalwa edlule eWashington, kodwa kummeli, unamandla amakhulu kunanoma yimuphi umbono wobulungisa.
Ngilapha namuhla, kodwa ngesonto eledlule, usuvele ungithole nginecala. Ulandelele igama lami emhlabeni wonke ungakaze ungibuze nowodwa umbuzo, ungakaze ungithinte, ungakaze ungibhalele noma ungishayele ucingo, ngaphandle kokuxhumana nami. Futhi nibiza lokho ubulungisa.
Manje, ngifuna ukubhekana namakhasi ahlobene nami kuleli phepha, futhi ngifuna ukukhomba izindawo lapho kukhona khona - asisize futhi sithi "amaphutha." Bese-ke ngifuna ukubeka lokhu esimeni engikholwa ukuthi kufanele kube njalo.
Ekhasini lokuqala ledokhumenti yakho ngami, uyagomela ukuthi ngibe nemihlangano eminingi no-Saddam Hussein.
Lokhu kungamanga.
Ngike ngaba nemihlangano emibili noSaddam Hussein, kwaba kanye ngo-1994 futhi kwaba kanye ngo-August 2002. Alukho ulimi lwesiNgisi olungachazwa ngokuthi โimihlangano eminingi noSaddam Hussein.โ
UGALLOWAY: Eqinisweni, ngihlangane noSaddam Hussein izikhathi ezifanayo ncamashi noDonald Rumsfeld ahlangana naye.
Umehluko ukuthi u-Donald Rumsfeld wahlangana naye ukuze amdayisele izibhamu futhi amnike amamephu, okungcono akhombe kulezo zibhamu.
Ngahlangana naye ukuze ngizame ukuqeda unswinyo, ukuhlupheka nezimpi. Futhi okwesibili kwalezi zikhathi ezimbili, ngahlangana naye ukuze ngizame ukumncenga ukuba avumele uDkt. Hans Blix kanye nabahloli bezikhali beNhlangano yeZizwe ukuba babuyele ezweni; ukusetshenziswa okungcono kakhulu kwemihlangano emibili noSaddam Hussein kunobhala wakho wezwe ukuze avikeleke ngaye.
Esigabeni esifanayo sokuvula, uyagomela ukuthi ngangingumsekeli osobala wombuso kaHussein. Lokhu kungamanga.
Ngilethe lapha idosi yawo wonke amalungu ekomiti lakho lezitatimende kusukela mhla ziyi-15 kuNdasa 1990, lapho ngigxeka ubushiqela bukaSaddam Hussein ngamazwi abuhlungu kakhulu: isimo engisithathile kusukela ngaleso sikhathi mayelana isikhathi ubungumbonisi wempi ye-anti-Vietnam.
Ngangimelene noSaddam Hussein ngesikhathi ohulumeni nosomabhizinisi baseBrithani nabaseMelika bemdayisela izibhamu negesi.
Ngangivame ukukhombisa ngaphandle kwehhovisi lenxusa lase-Iraq lapho izikhulu zaseBrithani nezaseMelika zingena ziphuma zizohweba.
Uzobona kurekhodi elisemthethweni lephalamende, i-Hansard, kusukela ngomhla ziyi-15 kuNdasa 1990 kuye phambili, ubufakazi obuqand' ikhanda bokuthi nginomlando ongcono kakhulu wokuphikisa uSaddam Hussein kunawe futhi kunanoma yiliphi ilungu lohulumeni waseBrithani noma waseMelika.
Manje, uthi kulo mbhalo - ucaphuna umthombo - unenyongo yokucaphuna umthombo ungakaze ungibuze ukuthi izinsolo ezivela emthonjeni ziyiqiniso yini, ukuthi mina, ngicaphuna, "umnikazi wenkampani eyenzile. inzuzo enkulu ngokuhweba ngowoyela wase-Iraqi.โ
GALLOWAY: Senator, anginazo izinkampani ezingaphandle kwenkampani encane yonke inhloso yayo, okuwukuphela kwenjongo yayo, ukuthola imali engenayo evela kumholo wami wobuntatheli kumqashi wami, Associated Newspapers, e-London.
Anginayo inkampani ebihweba ngowoyela wase-Iraqi. Futhi ubungenamsebenzi wokuphatha ikhotheshini - engenabufakazi nakancane futhi ingamanga - okusho okuhlukile.
Manje, awunalutho kimi, Senator, ngaphandle kwegama lami ohlwini lwamagama avela e-Iraq, amaningi awo adwetshwe ngemva kokufakwa kukahulumeni wakho wopopayi e-Baghdad.
Ukube ubunezincwadi ezimelene nami owawunazo ngokumelene noZhirinovsky ngisho noPasqua, ngabe ziphezulu lapho embukisweni wakho wama-slide zamalungu ekomiti lakho namuhla.
Igama lami unalo ohlwini olunikezwe uphenyo lukaDuelfer, alunikezwa isigebengu sasebhange esilahlwe yicala kanye nomkhohlisi kanye nomkhohlisi u-Ahmed Chalabi, abantu abaningi - ngokubonga kwabo - ezweni lakini manje sebebona ukuthi babambe iqhaza elikhulu ekuholeni izwe lakini. enhlekeleleni yase-Iraq.
Kwakukhona amagama angama-270 kulolu hlu ekuqaleni. Lokho ngandlela thize kuhlungwe kwaze kwafakwa emagameni okhethe ukubhekana nawo kuleli komiti.
Amanye amagama kulelo komiti ahlanganisa owayengunobhala woBungcwele Bakhe uPapa John Paul II, owayeyinhloko yeHhovisi likaMongameli we-African National Congress, kanye nabanye abaningi ababenophawu olulodwa olufanayo: Bonke babemelene nenqubomgomo yokujeziswa futhi impi owayishushisa waze yasiholela kule nhlekelele.
Ucaphuna uMnu. Taha Yassin Ramadan. Awu, unokuthile kimi: Angikaze ngihlangane noMnu Ramadan; ikomidi lakho elincane ngokusobala linakho.
Kodwa ngiyazi ukuthi uyisiboshwa sakho. Ngikholwa ukuthi usejele lase-Abu Ghraib. Ngikholwa ukuthi ubhekene namacala empi ajeziselwa ukufa.
Kulezi zimo, ukwazi lokho umhlaba okwaziyo mayelana nendlela ophatha ngayo iziboshwa ejele lase-Abu Ghraib, eBagram Air Base, eGuantanamo Bay - okuhlanganisa, ngingasho, izakhamuzi zaseBrithani ezigcinwe kulezo zindawo - angazi kahle ukuthi kungakanani ukwethembeka. noma ubani angagqoka noma yini okwazi ukuyithola esiboshwa kulezo zimo.
UGALLOWAY: Kepha ucaphuna amagama ayi-13 kuTaha Yassin Ramadan engingakaze ngihlangane naye. Uma eshilo, kusho ukuthi unephutha.
Futhi uma unobufakazi bokuthi ngake ngenza noma yikuphi ukuthengiselana kwangempela kukawoyela, uma unobufakazi bokuthi noma ubani wake wanginika imali, bekuyoba phambi komphakathi nangaphambi kwalokhu kuzibophezela namuhla, ngoba ngivumelana noMnu. Greenblatt wakho . UMnu. Greenblatt wakho ubeqinisile.
Okubalulekile akuwona amagama asephepheni; okubalulekile ukuthi iphi imali, Senator? Ubani owangikhokhela amakhulu ezinkulungwane zamaRandi?
Impendulo yalokho akukho muntu. Futhi ukube ubunomuntu oke wangikhokhela ngisho indibilishi, ubuzowakhiqiza lapha namuhla.
Manje, ubhekisela isikhathi eside enkampanini ebizwa kule mibhalo ngokuthi Irideo (ph) Petroleum.
Ngithi kuwe ngifunga lapha namuhla angikaze ngizwe ngale nkampani. Angikaze ngihlangane nomuntu ovela kule nkampani. Le nkampani ayikaze ingikhokhele ngisho indibilishi.
Futhi ngizokutshela okunye okunye: Ngingakuqinisekisa ukuthi u-Irideo (ph) Petroleum akakaze akhokhe ngisho indibilishi eyodwa emkhankasweni Wokudluliswa Kwezikhalazo kaMariam; hhayi i-dime encane.
Angazi u-Irideo (ph) Petroleum, kodwa ngingalokotha ngithi uma ungababuza, bangaqinisekisa ukuthi abakaze bahlangane nami noma bake bangikhokhele ngisho indibilishi.
Ngisakhuluma ngale ndaba, ubani lo owayeyisikhulu esiphezulu kuhulumeni okhulume naye izolo? Awucabangi ukuthi nginelungelo lokwazi? Awucabangi ukuthi ikomidi kanye nomphakathi banelungelo lokwazi ukuthi lesi sikhulu sangaphambili sombuso osicaphuna siphikisana nami okukhulunywe naye izolo singubani ngempela?
UGALLOWAY: Manje, elinye lamaphutha amabi kakhulu osuwenzile kuleli qoqo lamadokhumenti, ukukhuluma ngokungagwegwesi, umfana wesikole ohayizayo ukuze enze isilima ngemizamo oyenzile.
Uyagomela ekhasini le-19 - hhayi kanye kodwa kabili - ukuthi imibhalo okhuluma ngayo ihlanganisa isikhathi esihlukile kumadokhumenti ahlanganiswe yi-Daily Telegraph ayeyisihloko sesenzo sokungathembeki esiwinwe yimina enkantolo ephakeme. I-England ngasekupheleni konyaka odlule.
Usho ukuthi i-athikili ye-Daily Telegraph icaphune imibhalo yango-1992 no-1993, kuyilapho ukhuluma ngemibhalo yango-2001.
Senator, imibhalo ye-Daily Telegraph idethi efanayo kumadokhumenti osebenza nawo embikweni wakho lapha. Akukho neyodwa imibhalo ye-Daily Telegraph ekhuluma ngesikhathi sika-1992, 1993.
Ngangingakaze ngilubeke unyawo e-Iraq kuze kube sekupheleni kuka-1993: akuzange kwenzeke empilweni yami. Kungenzeka kube khona imibhalo ephathelene nezindaba zikawoyela wokudla ngo-1992-1993, ngoba uhlelo lukawoyela wokudla lwalungekho ngaleso sikhathi.
Futhi nokho ubeke ingxenye egcwele yalo mbhalo ekufuneni ukuthi amadokhumenti akho asuka enkathini ehlukile kunemibhalo ye-Daily Telegraph, kuyilapho okuphambene kuyiqiniso. Amadokhumenti akho kanye nemibhalo ye-Daily Telegraph ikhuluma ngesikhathi esifanayo ncamashi.
Kodwa mhlawumbe udida isenzo se-Daily Telegraph ne-Christian Science Monitor. I-Christian Science Monitor ngempela ishicilele, emakhasini ayo angaphambili, isethi yezinsolo engibhekene nazo ezifanayo nalezo ezenziwe yikomiti lakho.
Ngempela bathembele emibhalweni eyaqala ngo-1992-1993. Le mibhalo idalulwe yiChristian Science Monitor ngokwazo njengamanga.
Manje, izingosi ze-neocon namaphephandaba - lapho oyiqhawe elinjalo, uSenator - wonke abe yi-cockahoot ekushicilelweni kwemibhalo ye-Christian Science Monitor. Bonke babeqiniseka ngokuphelele ngobuqiniso babo. Bonke babeqiniseka ngokuphelele ukuthi le mibhalo yangibonisa ukuthi ngithola amaRandi ayizigidi eziyishumi embusweni kaSaddam Hussein. Futhi wonke kwakungamanga.
EGALLOWAY: Ngesonto elifanayo lapho i-Daily Telegraph ishicilela imibhalo yayo ephikisana nami, i-Christian Science Monitor yashicilela eyabo okwavela ukuthi ingeyomgunyathi, kwathi iphephandaba laseBrithani i-Mail ngeSonto lathenga iqoqo lesithathu lemibhalo elathi, lapho kuhlolwa icala, laphenduka. vele zingamanga.
Ngakho-ke akukho lutho olujabulisayo ngalokhu; akukho nhlobo engicabanga ngakho.
Ukuba khona kwamadokhumenti omgunyathi angifaka emisebenzini yezentengiselwano nombuso wase-Iraq kuyiqiniso elifakazelwe. Kuliqiniso elifakazelwe ukuthi le mibhalo yomgunyathi ibikhona futhi ibisakazwa emaphephandabeni angakwesokudla e-Baghdad nasemhlabeni jikelele ngemuva nje kokuwa kombuso wase-Iraq.
Manje, Senator, nginikele ngenhliziyo yami nomphefumulo wami ukuthi ngiphikisane nenqubomgomo oyikhuthazileyo.
Nganikela ngegazi lami lezepolitiki ukuzama ukumisa ukubulawa kwabantu abaningi base-Iraq ngezijeziso zase-Iraq, ezabulala isigidi sama-Iraqi, iningi labo kungabantwana. Abaningi babo bafa bengakazazi nokuthi bangama-Iraqi, kodwa bafa ngaphandle kwesizathu esinye ngaphandle kokuthi babengama-Iraqi ngeshwa elalizozalwa ngaleso sikhathi.
Nginikele ngenhliziyo nomphefumulo wami ukukumisa ukwenza inhlekelele enayenza ekuhlaseleni i-Iraq.
Futhi ngatshela izwe ukuthi icala lakho lempi laligcwele amanga.
Ngitshele umhlaba ukuthi i-Iraq, ngokuphambene nezimangalo zakho, ayinazo izikhali zokucekela phansi okukhulu.
Ngitshele umhlaba, ngokuphambene nezimangalo zakho, ukuthi i-Iraq ayinakho ukuxhumana ne-Al Qaida.
Ngitshele umhlaba, ngokuphambene nezimangalo zakho, ukuthi i-Iraq ayizange ixhumene nesihluku sangomhla zi-9/11/2001.
Ngatshela umhlaba, ngokuphambene nezimangalo zakho, ukuthi abantu base-Iraq bazomelana nokuhlasela kweBrithani neMelika ezweni labo nokuthi ukuwa kweBaghdad kwakungeke kube ukuqala kokuphela kodwa ukuphela kwesiqalo.
USenator, kukho konke engikushilo nge-Iraq, ngibe neqiniso futhi wena waphenduka unephutha, futhi abantu abayi-100,000 bakhokhe ngokuphila kwabo: i-1,600 yabo ingamasosha aseMelika athunyelwa ekufeni kwawo ngephakethe lamanga; Abangu-15,000 babo balimala, abaningi babo bakhubazeke unomphela phezu kweqoqo lamanga.
Ukube umhlaba umlalele u-Kofi Annan, ofune ukuxoshwa kwakhe; ukube umhlaba ubulalele uMongameli Chirac, ofuna ukumdweba njengohlobo oluthile lwembuka elikhohlakele; ukube izwe langilalela kanye nenhlangano emelene nempi eBrithani, ngabe asikho kule nhlekelele esikuyo namuhla.
USenator, lona ngumama wabo bonke ababhemayo. Uzama ukuphambukisa ukunaka ebugebengwini obusekelile, kusukela ekuntshontshweni kwezigidigidi zamadola womcebo wase-Iraq.
Bheka ihlazo langempela likawoyela wokudla.
I-GALLOWAY: Bheka izinyanga eziyi-14 obuphethe i-Baghdad - izinyanga zokuqala eziyi-14 - lapho u- $ 8.8 billion womcebo wase-Iraq ulahlekile ewashini lakho.
Bheka i-Halliburton nezinye izinhlangano zaseMelika ezingazange zintshontshe imali yase-Iraq kuphela, kodwa nemali yomkhokhi wentela waseMelika.
Bheka uwoyela ongazange uwafake ngisho imitha, obuwathumela ngaphandle kwezwe futhi uthengisa, imali etholwayo yahamba ngubani owaziyo ukuthi kuphi.
Bheka izigidi zamaRandi ezingu-800 ozinikeze abaphathi bezempi baseMelika ukuze banikeze izwe lonke ngaphandle kokuyibala noma ukuyikala.
Ake ubheke ihlazo langempela eliqubuka emaphephandabeni namuhla, elivezwe ebufakazini bangaphambili baleli komiti, ukuthi abaholi abakhulu bezonswinyo kwakungebona mina noma osopolitiki baseRussia noma osopolitiki baseFrance; ama-sanction busters wangempela bekuyizinkampani zakho siqu ngokuhlangana kukahulumeni wakho.
COLEMAN: Ngiyabonga, Mnu. Galloway.
Mnu. Galloway, singaqala ngokukhuluma ngoFawaz Zuraiqat? Uyamazi lowo muntu?
GALLOWAY: Ngimazi kahle.
UCOLEMAN: Eqinisweni, wawuyindoda engcono kakhulu emshadweni wakhe?
GALLOWAY: Nganginjalo.
UCOLEMAN: Futhi, ngesikhathi esithile, waba ngusihlalo we-Mariam Appeal, ingabe lokho kulungile?
GALLOWAY: Wakwenza, yebo.
COLEMAN: Ungangitshela ukuthi lokho kwenzeka nini?
GALLOWAY: Ngicabanga ngasekupheleni kuka-2000 noma ekuqaleni kuka-2001.
COLEMAN: Ngaphambi kokuthi uMnu. Zuraiqat abe ngusihlalo we-Mariam Appeal, ubani owayenaleso sikhundla?
GALLOWAY: Ngangiwusihlalo ongumsunguli.
COLEMAN: Ngabe bekukhona umuntu phakathi kwakho no...
GALLOWAY: Mnu. Halfert (ph).
UCOLEMAN: Uyakhumbula ngenkathi eba naleso sikhundla?
GALLOWAY: Angifuni.
COLEMAN: UMnu. Zuraiqat waba neqhaza elikhulu ekudlulisweni kwesicelo sika-Mariam, ingabe lokho kulungile?
UGALLOWAY: Wayengowesibili waba negalelo elikhulu. Umnikeli omkhulu kwakungu-Sheik Zayid, umbusi wase-United Arab Emirates, oyichazile embikweni wakho ngoba ikwenza ube namahloni kancane kuwe.
Futhi owesithathu waba negalelo elikhulu kwaba inkosana yomqhele yaseSaudi Arabia, oye wayichaza ngokulinganayo ngoba ikwenza ube namahloni.
COLEMAN: Futhi maliniโฆ
GALLOWAY: Ngoba bobabili labo bantu bangabangane bakho.
COLEMAN: UMnu. Zuraiqat ufake malini esicelweni sikaMariam?
IGALLOWAY: Cishe amaphawundi esiNgisi angu-375,000.
U-COLEMAN: Ingabe lokho cishe ku-$ 600,000 yaseMelika?
IGALLOWAY: Angikwazi ukuguqulwa, kodwa kuyi-375,000 sterling.
U-COLEMAN: Uma ukwazi - futhi wayenjalo, uMnu. Zuraiqat wayengummeleli wakho oqokiwe womsebenzi we-Mariam Appeal, ingabe lokho kulungile?
GALLOWAY: Ngemisebenzi yesikhalazo sika-Miriam, yebo.
COLEMAN: Wasithola nini leso sikhundla?
GALLOWAY: Ngicabanga ngasekupheleni kuka-2000.
COLEMAN: Ngasekupheleni kuka-2000.
Ngibheka umbukiso wesishiyagalolunye - futhi ngicabanga ukuthi unezincwadi phambi kwakho.
GALLOWAY: Yebo.
COLEMAN: Lokho kubonakala kuwumbhalo ovela eMnyangweni Wezamafutha. Ubufakazi buveze ukuthi isiginesha iyisiginesha enembile.
Ingabe unaso isizathu sokukholelwa ukuthi leyo dokhumenti ingamanga?
GALLOWAY: Ngikutshelile ukuthi angikaze ngizwe nge-Irideo (ph) Petroleum futhi ngike ngakutshela ukuthi i-Mariam Appeal ayikaze ithole ngisho indibilishi kwa-Irideo (ph) Petroleum. Ngakho-ke ulwazi oluphezulu ekhasini, uma ukuhumushe kahle lokho, lungamanga.
U-COLEMAN: Uke wezwa ngenkampani ye-ASI Ephakathi?
UGALLOWAY: Yebo, leyo yinkampani kaMnu. Zuraiqat.
COLEMAN: Vula umbukiso we-12.
Futhi lokho kuhloswe ukuba, futhi, isitembu, uphawu loMnyango Wezamafutha, abantu base-Iraq. Futhi lokhu kuhloswe ukuthi kube - okubonisa imininingwane yenkontileka esayinwe nenkampani yaseMpumalanga Ephakathi ye-ASI, uMnu. George Galloway kanye noFawaz Zuraiqat.
Ngakho-ke i-Middle East ASI yinkampani kaMnu Zuraiqat?
I-GALLOWAY: I-Middle East ASI yinkampani kaMnu Zuraiqat. Kungenzeka ukuthi usayine inkontileka kawoyela. Kwakungahlangene ngalutho nami.
U-COLEMAN: Wayengusihlalo we-Appeal ka-Mariam ngo-2000, ngakho-ke ngithatha ukuthi ubumazi kahle. Wake wakhuluma nawe mayelana nokusebenzisana kwakhe nowoyela ne-Iraq?
GALLOWAY: Wenze kangcono kunalokho. Wakhuluma nawo wonke umuntu. Ukhulume nayo yonke intatheli yesiNgisi eyafika nge-Baghdad eyasiza, ngokwesicelo sethu, ukuze ithole inhlolokhono futhi ithole izindawo ababezifuna nezidinga ukuya kuzo.
Wethulwa kuwo wonke umuntu njengomzuzi omkhulu we-Mariam Appeal futhi njengosomabhizinisi owenza ibhizinisi elibanzi e-Iraq nakwezinye izindawo eMpumalanga Ephakathi.
U-COLEMAN: Ngikubuza ngokuqondile, ngo-2001, bewazi ukuthi wenza izivumelwano zikawoyela ne-Iraq?
UGALLOWAY: Bengazi ukuthi wenza ibhizinisi elibanzi ne-Iraq. Ngangingayazi imininingwane yayo. Bekungeyona indaba yami.
UCOLEMAN: Ngakho-ke lo ngumuntu ongusihlalo wekomiti lenu omazi kahle futhi ongakwazi ukusho ukuthi waye...
GALLOWAY: Hhayi-ke, baningi abanikelayo, kade ngibheka, kweyakho...
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COLEMAN: Ababaningi kulelo zinga, Mnu. Galloway.
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GALLOWAY: Cha, ake ngiqinisekise ukuthi kukhona. Ngiyibhekile isizindalwazi sakho. Baningi abanikela ngemali yakho yomkhankaso wezepolitiki, angicabangi ukuthi ubuza noma yimuphi kubo ukuthi uyenzile kanjani imali abakunika yona.
I-COLEMAN: Impela hhayi kuma- $ 600,000 aseMelika.
Kodwa ake ngiphinde ngibuze umbuzo - ukuze nje irekhodi licace. Udinga ukucaca kurekhodi ukuthi awuncintisi bese kuba semthethweni kombukiso 12; ukhombisa ukuthi uMnu. Zuraiqat kungenzeka ukuthi wayesebenzisana ne-Iraq. Kepha usho ukuthi ngaleso sikhathi ngaleso sikhathi ubungazi ukuthi wayesebenzelana nowoyela ne-Iraq.
GALLOWAY: Okokuqala nje, lo mbhalo ngiwubonile namuhla futhi ngiyakutshela ukuthi njengoba igama lami lisemabakakeni, imininingwane ekuyo ingamanga.
Anginaso isizathu sokukholelwa ukuthi inkampani kaMnu Zuraiqat ayizange yenze leso sivumelwano sikawoyela. Kodwa lena inkinga yakho kulo lonke udaba: Akekho ophikisa ngokuthi inkampani kaMnu. Zuraiqat ayizange yenze ukuthengiselana ngowoyela nokunye okuningi - okukhulu kakhulu, ngokungananazi - izinkontileka zebhizinisi ne-Iraq. Akekho ophikisana nokuthi uMnu. Zuraiqat wenze iminikelo emikhulu emkhankasweni wethu wokulwa unswinyo kanye nempi.
Iphuzu lami ukuthi ungisole ngokuzicebisa, ngokuthatha imali e-Iraq, futhi lokho kungamanga futhi akulungile.
COLEMAN: Mnu. Galloway, uyayikhumbula inhlolokhono owaba nayo noJeremy Paxman ngomhla zingama-23 kuMbasa wezi-2003?
Ingabe sinayo ikhophi yombhalo walokho? Ngingathanda ukuvuselela inkumbulo yakho. Ake ngithole ikhophi yalokho.
Njengoba sikuthola ikhophi, ngizokubuza - ubuzwe umbuzo, ukhuluma ngokusebenzelana kwebhizinisi noMnu. Zuraiqat e-Iraq okungenani umbhalo enginawo, futhi ngingathanda ungazise uma akulungile, ukucaphuna kwakho - kubuzwa ngebhizinisi e-Iraq futhi, caphuna, "Hhayi-ke, ngizama ukufinyelela kuye" - lokhu kungo-2003 - "ukumbuza ukuthi wake wabandakanyeka yini ezindabeni zikawoyela ngoba angifuni. uyazi impendulo yalokho."
Ngakho-ke ngo-2003 uthi awuyazi impendulo yokuthi uyathinteka yini ezindabeni zikawoyela?
GALLOWAY: Hhayi-ke, ngikutshele ezimpendulweni zami ezimbili ezedlule.
Ngangazi ukuthi uMnu. Zuraiqat wayehileleke kakhulu ebhizinisini lase-Iraq nakwezinye izindawo, kodwa ukuthi kwakungeyona indaba yami ukuthi yiziphi izinto ezithile zebhizinisi ayezibandakanya kuzo; ngaphezu kokuba ubuza i-American-Israel Public Affairs Committee, ukuthi inikela nini imali kuwe noma ikhokhela uhambo lwakho oluya kwa-Israel, lapho ithole khona imali.
COLEMAN: Ngakho-ke, Mnu. Galloway, ungathanda ukuthi leli komiti likholelwe ukuthi ummeleli wakho oqokiwe wokudlulisa Isikhalo sika-Mariam. uba ngusihlalo we-Mariam Appeal, osohlwini lwemibhalo yase-Iraqi, kusobala ukuthi wenza ibhizinisi - izivumelwano zikawoyela - ne-Iraq - ongakaze ube nengxoxo naye ngo-2001 yokuthi wake wenza ibhizinisi likawoyela ne-Iraq.
GALLOWAY: Cha, ngenza kangcono kunalokho. Ngitshela ukuthi ngangazi ukuthi wayenza inani elikhulu lebhizinisi ne-Iraq - elikhulu kakhulu, njengoba ngishilo izimpendulo ezimbalwa ezedlule, kunanoma yiliphi ibhizinisi likawoyela alenzile.
Esikhumulweni sezindiza, ubemele ezinye zezinkampani ezinkulu emhlabeni e-Iraq. Wayengusomabhizinisi ocebe ngokwedlulele enza ibhizinisi elibanzi kakhulu e-Iraq.
Ngangingakwazi lokho kuphela, kodwa ngatshela wonke umuntu ngakho. Ngayibhala ezincwadini zethu, engosini yethu, ukuze abantu abanjengani kamuva bangangabazi iqiniso lami mayelana nalokho.
Ngakho ngenze kangcono kunalokho. Angikaze ngimbuze ukuthi uhweba ngamafutha. Ngangazi ukuthi wayengumhwebi omkhulu ne-Iraq, futhi ngatshela wonke umuntu ngakho.
COLEMAN: Ngakho-ke ngo-2003, lapho uthi awazi noma wenza amadili kawoyela, wawukhuluma iqiniso ngaleso sikhathi?
GALLOWAY: Yebo, nganginjalo. Angikaze ngazi kuze kwavela indaba yeTelegraph ukuthi kusolwa ukuthi wenza izivumelwano zikawoyela. Kepha amadili akhe kawoyela cishe ayingxenye eyodwa kweshumi yebhizinisi alenza e-Iraq.
Ngakho ngenza kangcono kunokutshela abantu ngamadili akhe kawoyela. Ngabatshela ukuthi wenza okuningi, kakhulu kunalokho.
COLEMAN: Ngakho-ke umbukiso we-14, ohlose ukuba yinkontileka ne-Middle East Semiconductor, inkontileka ye-M-1214 - I-Middle East Semiconductor, futhi, ingabe inkampani kaMnu Zuraiqat, ingabe ilungile?
GALLOWAY: Yebo kunjalo.
UCOLEMAN: Ngakho unaso isizathu sokukholelwa ukuthi lo mbhalo ungamanga?
UGALLOWAY: Hhayi-ke, abakaki - uma abakaki besho ukuthi, njengoba beniphikisana njalo ekuseni ukuthi kusho ukuthi, lokhu bekusayinwe ngabakwa-Middle East Advance Semiconductors ukuze badlulisele imali kimi, kungamanga.
UMnu. Zuraiqat kanye ne-Middle East Semiconductors - nanoma iyiphi enye inkampani - abakaze banginike imali. Futhi ukuba bebenakho, benizoba nakho phezulu lapha ebhodini naphambi kwekomidi lapha.
COLEMAN: Ngiyakuthatha, Mnu. Galloway, ukuthi mayelana nanoma yiziphi izinkokhelo ezengeziwe ezikhokhelwa i-Saddam - futhi ngicabanga ukuthi umbhalo waphansi 89 obhekisela enkokhelweni eyengeziwe yenkontileka egxile ku-Mariam Appeal - usho ukuthi lowo mbhalo - okokuqala. , noma iyiphi inkontileka phakathi kwe-Iraq ne-Mariam Appeal ingamanga?
UGALLOWAY: Hhayi-ke, Senator, sengiyijwayele izinsolo zokuthi bengithatha imali kuSaddam Hussein. Kuyi-surreal ukuzwa kuleli gumbi namhlanje ekuseni ukuthi ngisolwa ngokunikeza uSaddam Hussein imali.
Lokhu kuwubuwula ngokuphelele - kuwubuwula impela - ukuthi nginikeze ama- $ 300,000 kuSaddam Hussein. Lokhu kungaphezu kombuso wenhlekisa.
Manje, izimali zesikhalazo sika-Mariam seziphenywe yiKhomishana yenhlangano esiza abantulayo ngokomyalelo ka-Lord Goldsmith. Uzomkhumbula, Senator. Ungummeli-jikelele - cishe ukuphela kwendoda yezomthetho emhlabeni eyayicabanga ukuthi impi yakho ne-Iraq isemthethweni, wacabanga ukuthi iBrithani ukujoyina impi yakho ne-Iraq kwakusemthethweni.
Ube eseyalela iKhomishana yezinhlangano ezisiza umphakathi ukuba iphenye ngeSikhalo sikaMariam. Besebenzisa amandla abo angokomthetho, bathole yonke imali kanye nayo yonke imali eyake yatholwa noma yasetshenziswa yisikhalazo sika-Mariam.
GALLOWAY: Abatholanga lutho olungalungile. Futhi ngingakuqinisekisa ukuthi ayikho imali abayitholile kwinkontileka kawoyela yakwa-Irideo (ph) Petroleum: akukho lutho.
COLEMAN; Futhi ikhomishini ayizange ibheke le mibhalo ehlobene nale nkontileka ne-Iraq, akunjalo?
UGALLOWAY: Cha, kodwa babebukeka bengcono kunalokho, Senator.
COLEMAN: Angikubuzi lokho; Ngibuza umbuzo ukuthi ngabe bawabheka yini la maphepha.
GALLOWAY: Senator, awulaleli engikushoyo.
Benza kangcono kunalokho. Babheka wonke amasenti angenayo nawo wonke amasenti aphumile, futhi abatholanga, ngingakuqinisekisa, noma yimuphi umkhondo womnikelo ovela enkampanini ebizwa ngokuthi i-Irideo (ph) Petroleum, noma, ngokungananazi, umnikelo wanoma iyiphi inkampani ngaphandle kukaMnu. Inkampani kaZuraiqat.
Lokho kuyiqiniso.
U-COLEMAN: Uma ngingabuyela kuMnu. Zuraiqat futhi, uyasikhumbula isikhathi lapho akhuluma ngaso ngokuqondile - lapho uke waba nengxoxo naye ngokuqondile mayelana nokuhwebelana ngowoyela e-Iraq?
GALLOWAY: Sengivele ngawuphendula lowo mbuzo. Ngingakuqinisekisa, uMnu. Zuraiqat akakaze anginike ngisho indibilishi ephuma edilini likawoyela, kwidili lekhekhe, elivela edilini lesinkwa noma kunoma iyiphi idili.
Wanikela ngemali emkhankasweni wethu, esawuveza obala ngazo zonke izincwadi zethu kanye nabanye abanikele kulo mkhankaso.
COLEMAN: Futhi, Mnu. Galloway, umbuzo olula. Ngibheke ukuthi yebo noma cha. Wake waba nengxoxo noMnu. Zuraiqat lapho akwazisa khona ukuthi usebenzelana nowoyela ne-Iraq, yebo noma cha?
GALLOWAY: Hhayi ngaphambi kwalo mbiko weDaily Telegraph, cha.
COLEMAN: USenator Levin?
ULEVIN: Ngiyabonga.
Ngiyabonga, Mnu. Galloway.
Mnu. Galloway, ungakwazi ukubuka umbukiso ongunombolo 12, lapho igama lakho likubakaki ngemva kwekaMnu. Zuraiqat...
UGALLOWAY: Ngaphambi kukaMnu. Zuraiqat, uma ngibheka umbukiso ofanele.
ULEVIN: Bengizoqedela umbuzo wami. Umbuzo wami wawuthi, liphi igama lakho kubakaki ngemva kwegama lenkampani kaMnu. Zuraiqat.
GALLOWAY: Ngiyaxolisa, Senator.
LEVIN: Kulungile.
Manje, lowo mbhalo - ucabanga ukuthi uwukuhumusha okunembile kwedokhumenti engaphansi kwawo - awusho lapha namuhla ukuthi lo mbhalo uwumgunyathi, ngiyawuqoqa?
UGALLOWAY: Hhayi-ke, angazi, Senator, ukuthi lokho kuwumgunyathi noma cha.
U-LEVIN: Kodwa awusho ...
GALLOWAY: Ngithi ulwazi mayelana nami luwumgunyathi.
LEVIN: Ingabe akulungile?
GALLOWAY: Akulungile.
LEVIN: Kepha awusho ukuthi lo mbhalo ...
GALLOWAY: Hhayi-ke, anginandlela yokwazi, mnumzane.
ULEVIN: Kulungile. Ngakho awusho.
GALLOWAY: Cha anginandlela yokwazi.
U-LEVIN: Kufanelekile ukusho, njengoba ungazi, awusho?
GALLOWAY: Hhayi-ke, bekungaba kuhle ukuyibona ngaphambi kwanamuhla.
U-LEVIN: Ngabe kulungile ukusho, noma kunjalo, ukuthi kungenxa yokuthi awukaze ukubone ngaphambili noma ngoba - kungenjalo awazi. Awusho ukuthi idokhumenti ingamanga; ingabe kulungile ukusho?
GALLOWAY: Angikaze ngibe nakho isikhathi eside ngokwanele ukuze ngibeke umbono ngalokho.
LEVIN: Kulungile. Ungakwazi yini ukwazisa ikomiti elincane, ngemva kokuba usuyiphethe isikhathi eside ngokwanele, noma ngabe uwuthatha njenge...
UGALLOWAY: Yebo, nakuba likhona ikhwalithi yemfundo mayelana nakho konke, Senator Levin, ngoba usuvele wangithola nginecala, ngaphambi kokuba ungivumele ngempela ukuba ngize lapha futhi ngizikhulumele.
LEVIN: Hhayi-ke, ukuze uzame ukusula igama lakho, unga...
GALLOWAY: Asicacise ngokuthile...
ULEVIN: Cha, ake ngiqedele umbuzo wami. Ake ngicacise ngalokho, okokuqala.
GALLOWAY: Yebo.
U-LEVIN: Ungathumela ekomitini elincane, ngemva kokuba usuthole ithuba lokubukeza lo mbhalo, noma ngabe, ngokwesinqumo sakho, uwumgunyathi? Uzokwenza lokho?
GALLOWAY: Hhayi-ke, uma uzonginika okwangempela. Lokhu akukona โ mhlawumbe, ubhale le translation English.
LEVIN: Yebo, futhi kukhona ikhophi ngaphansi kwayo ...
GALLOWAY: Yebo, kukhona ikhophi yokufiphala okumpunga. Uma uzonginika okwangempela.
LEVIN: Ikhophi yoqobo.
GALLOWAY: Uzonginika okwangempela ngendlela eqondakalayo, kunjalo, kunjalo...
ULEVIN: Kungaba kuhle. Siyakwazisa lokho.
GALLOWAY: Yebo.
LEVIN: Manje, phansi kwalo mbhalo - sicabanga ukuthi akuwona umgunyathi okwesikhashana - uthi "inkokhelo eyengeziwe."
Sindawonye?
GALLOWAY: Yebo.
I-LEVIN: "Njengokwemiyalelo yoMhlonishwa ngocingo ngomhla ka-12/11/01 yokungazamukeli iziphakamiso zenkampani ngaphandle uma bekhokha isikweletu esitholwe kusukela esigabeni sesishiyagalombili." Uma, empeleni, inkampani kaMnu. Zuraiqat ikhokhe inhlawulo eyengeziwe noma i-kickback kuhulumeni wase-Iraq ukuze ithole isabelo samafutha, ingabe lokho kungakukhathaza?
UGALLOWAY: Hhayi-ke, uma kuvela ebufakazini bakho ukuthi cishe wonke umuntu emhlabeni, futhi ikakhulukazi i-United States, ubekhokha imali...
LEVIN: Umbuzo wami - awu, ungikhathaza kakhulu.
GALLOWAY: Yebo.
ULEVIN: Njengoba uzwile esitatimendeni sami namuhla, ngikhathazeke kakhulu ngokuthi sinenkampani kawoyela ebambe iqhaza kulokhu futhi sizolandela leyo nkampani kawoyela.
Manje ake ngikubuze - ngiveze umbono wami ngeBayoil, ngakho-ke ake ngikubuze ngenkampani kaMnu. Zuraiqat.
Uma, empeleni, inkampani kaMnu. Zuraiqat ikhokhele uhulumeni wase-Iraqi ukuze ithole lesi sabelo, ungakhathazeka? Lowo ngumbuzo wami.
GALLOWAY: Umbuzo omuhle.
Futhi ungangivumela ukuthi ngikuphendule...
U-LEVIN: Ngingajabula, yebo.
UGALLOWAY: โฆ ngokuzimisela, hhayi ngendlela ethi yebo-noma-cha? Ngoba angikwazi ukukunikeza impendulo elula.
U-LEVIN: Uma usinika impendulo, ngingajabula ukuzwa.
GALLOWAY: Nansi impendulo yami, futhi ngethemba ukuthi izokujabulisa.
Ngaluphikisa ngenhliziyo yami yonke lolu hlelo lokudla amafutha, hhayi ngenxa yezizathu ezinikhathazayo, kodwa ngoba bekuwuhlelo olwabona ukufa โ ngikhuluma ngokufa manje, ngikhuluma ngakho. ithuna elikhulu - labantu abayizigidi, iningi labo izingane e-Iraq.
Uhlelo lukawoyela wokudla lunikeze amasenti angu-30 ngosuku nge-Iraqi ngayinye ngesikhathi sohlelo lokudla uwoyela: amasenti angu-30 akho konke ukudla, yonke imithi, zonke izingubo, zonke izikole, zonke izibhedlela, zonke izinsiza zomphakathi.
Ngikholelwa ukuthi iNhlangano Yezizwe yayingenalo ilungelo lokulambisa abantu base-Iraq ngoba yayixabene nomashiqela wase-Iraq.
UDavid Bonior, uzakwenu wangaphambili, uSenator, engangimthanda kakhulu, owayengusotswebhu omkhulu lapha eNtabeni, uchaze inqubomgomo yezigwegwe ngokuthi โukubulawa kwezingane kuzenza ipolitiki.โ
USenator uColeman ucabanga ukuthi kuyahlekisa lokho, kodwa ngicabanga ukuthi incazelo ejule kakhulu yaleso sikhathi engake ngayifunda: โUkubulawa kwezingane zizenza ipolitiki.โ
Ngakho ngaphikisana nalolu hlelo ngenhliziyo yami yonke, hhayi ngoba uSaddam wayethola ama-kickbacks kulo - futhi angazi ukuthi lezi zinsolo ziqale nini - hhayi ngoba abanye abantu babeceba ukwenza ibhizinisi ne-Iraq ngaphansi kwayo, kodwa ngoba inqubomgomo ebulalayo yokubulala inqwaba yama-Iraqis. Yilokho okungikhathazayo. Yilokho okungikhathazayo.
Manje, uma ungibuza ukuthi nguMnu. Zuraiqat osebunzimeni obuthile njengazo zonke ezinye izinkampani ukuthi kuzovela izinkokhelo ezikhokhelwayo embusweni wase-Iraq, ngokungangabazeki unjalo. Yize bekuzobukeka sengathi uyinyamazane encane uma eqhathaniswa nezinkampani zaseMelika ezazibambe iqhaza entweni efanayo.
ULEVIN: Manje umbuzo wami.
GALLOWAY: Yilokho-ngikutshelile okungikhathazayo. Futhi nginitshelile...
LEVIN: Umbuzo wami - njengoba ususinikeze, futhi, isitatimende sakho mayelana nemizwa yakho mayelana nohlelo lokudla uwoyela, umbuzo wami uthi ubungakhathazeka uma wazi ukuthi uMnu. Zuraiqat ukhokhe intela ukuze uthole isabelo senkontileka kawoyela?
Lowo ngumbuzo olula kakhulu.
UGALLOWAY: Inkinga kaMnu Zuraiqat, hhayi eyami.
ULEVIN: Ngeke kukukhathaze?
UGALLOWAY: Inkinga kaMnu Zuraiqat, hhayi eyami.
U-LEVIN: Futhi ukuze uma i-kickback, ebingekho emthethweni ngaphansi komthetho wamazwe ngamazwe - manje, ungase ungavumelani ne-UN, kodwa lowo ngumphakathi wamazwe ngamazwe owuhlaselayo, kulungile. Unelungelo lokwenza lokho, unelungelo, futhi ngizovikela ilungelo lakho lokukwenza.
Kodwa uhlasela uhlelo lwe-U.N., okuyilungelo lakho ukwenza, obekuhloswe ngalo ukuhlinzeka ngosizo lokusiza abantu ukuzama ukudambisa izinkinga ezinikezwe unswinyo, okuyilungelo lakho ukukwenza.
LEVIN: Kodwa umbuzo wami, eniwubalekelayo kuze kube manje, uthi: Ubungakhathazeka yini uma lolo hlelo lukawoyela wokudla lweNhlangano Yezizwe luvinjelwa uhlobo lokukhahlamezeka olwalusenzeka futhi lunikezwe uSaddam Hussein ukuze aluthole. izabelo ngaphansi kwalolo hlelo, uma uMnu Zuraiqat ebambe iqhaza kulelo hlelo lokukhahlela okwephula unswinyo lwe-U.N.?
Kungenzeka awuvumelananga nayo, kodwa yephule uhlelo.
Ingabe bekungakukhathaza uma ephula lolo hlelo lwe-U.N. ngaleyo ndlela? Lowo ngumbuzo wami.
UGALLOWAY: USenator, kunezinto eziningiโฆ
ULEVIN: Ngiyazi ezinye izinto ziyakukhathaza, kodwa ungasinikeza impendulo eqondile?
Usinikeze incazelo ende yezinye izinto ezikukhathazayo, okuyilungelo lakho. Manje ngiyakubuza ukuthi lokho kuyakukhathaza yini.
GALLOWAY: Kuyangikhathaza lokho kungase kumfake ebunzimeni. Kuyangikhathaza ukuthi manje kungase kuholele ekushushisweni kwakhe. Kuyangikhathaza ukuthi lokhu kuzoba enye intuthu esikrinini somusi.
Kepha mina, impande negatsha, ngimelene nalolu hlelo lokudla uwoyela...
ULEVIN: Ngiyaqonda. Ziningi izinto oziphikisayo kodwa awukholwa ukuthi kumele zeqe ngezindlela ezingekho emthethweni, akunjalo...
GALLOWAY: Hhayi-ke, ngiyacela, Senator. Usekele ukuhlasela okungekho emthethweni kwe-Iraq. Ungangikhulumisi ngokungemthetho...
U-LEVIN: Uxolo ngalokho, angizange. Kodwa lokho kuphambene nephuzu. Lokho kuphambene nephuzu. Awulungile ngamaqiniso akho...
GALLOWAY: Ngikhuluma ngokuhlanganyela ngeSenate; hhayi wena uqobo.
U-LEVIN: Yebo, konke kulungile.
GALLOWAY: Uma uโฆ
ULEVIN: Kulungile, ake ngibuyele embuzweni wami. angifuni ukuthola...
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U-LEVIN: Angifuni ukuzibandakanya ...
GALLOWAY: Ngani? Uyafuna ukukhuluma ngokungekho emthethweni?
LEVIN: Cha.
IGALLOWAY: Uqale impi engekho emthethweni esebulale abantu abayi-100,000โฆ
LEVIN: Ake sizame...
GALLOWAY: Ufuna ngikhathazeke...
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U-LEVIN: Cha, ngifuna uphendule imibuzo ebekwe kahle nebekwe kuwe ngqo.
Manje ngizokubuza imibuzo emibili yokugcina. Uma iminikelo kaMnu. Zuraiqat ku-Mariam Appeal yayivela ekuthengisweni kwamafutha noma isabelo sakhe sokudayiswa kumafutha, akwazi ukukuthola ngenxa yokuthi wakhokha imali ngokuphula uhlelo lwe-U.N., ingabe lowo mnikelo wawungakukhathaza? Lowo ngumbuzo wami.
GALLOWAY: Yebo, Senator ...
U-LEVIN: Uma ungakwazi ukunikeza impendulo emfushane, veleโฆ
GALLOWAY: Ngizonikela ngokufushane ngangokunokwenzeka, futhi ngiyabonga ukulunga kwakho kulokho.
Ukuqoqwa kwezimali ngezinjongo zezombangazwe akuvamile ukuba kuhle, njengoba noma yimuphi usopolitiki waseMelika engafakaza.
GALLOWAY: Ngithathe umbono - ngingagxekwa ngawo; ngigxekwe ngakho - ukuthi ngizoqongelela imali emakhosini ase-Arabia, izinhlelo zawo zezombangazwe engiziphikise impilo yami yonke, ukuze ngiqoqe imali yalokho engangicabanga ukuthi kwakuyisimo esiphuthumayo esibhekene nenhlekelele. Futhi angizange ngibuze uMnu. Zuraiqat ukuthi iyiphi ingxenye yenzuzo yakhe kuwo wonke umbuso wakhe webhizinisi ayeyenza ngezizathu zethu.
ULEVIN: Kwakungewona umbuzo wami lowo. Umbuzo wami wawuthi...
GALLOWAY: Yebo, kunjalo ...
ULEVIN: Cha. Umbuzo wami uthi: Kungakukhathaza yini uma uthola lokho?
GALLOWAY: Cha...
LEVIN: Kulungile. Ngeke uphendule, kuyangicacela. Ngifuna ukuya embuzweni wami olandelayo. Ngeke nje uphendule.
GALLOWAY: Kulungile, kulungile.
U-LEVIN: Ngizothi, osopolitiki baseMelika abathola umthombo wemali, ngemuva kokunikezwa kwabo, bayakhathaza, lapho bethola into ababengayazi kamuva, njalo - kahle futhi ngethemba, ngicabanga, njalo, kodwa okungenani. njalo - izobuyisela leyo mali; bazothi abavumelani nomsuka wemali.
Ngethemba ukuthi sonke sizokwenza lokho. Kodwa noma ngabe sonke siphila kulelo zinga noma cha, awukuthathi lokho njengendinganiso yeminikelo ku-Mariam Appeal. Ngeke ubheke umthombo wemali, uzovele wamukele imali, futhi ukucacisile lokho.
Bengifuna ukukubuza ngoTariq Aziz.
GALLOWAY: Yebo.
U-LEVIN: Ukhombisile ukuthi ubani ongakhulumanga naye nokuthi ukhulume nobani. Ingabe uye waba nezingxoxo no-Tariq Aziz mayelana nokuklonyeliswa kwezabelo zikawoyela? Lowo ngumbuzo wami.
GALLOWAY: Ungalokothi.
ULEVIN: Ngiyabonga. Ngiqedile.
Ngiyabonga.
U-COLEMAN: Ukulandelela okukodwa nje kombuzo kaTariq Aziz. Kukangaki - chaza ubudlelwano bakho no-Tariq Aziz.
UGALLOWAY: Unobungane.
COLEMAN: Wahlangana kangaki naye?
I-GALLOWAY: Izikhathi eziningi.
COLEMAN: Ungakwazi yini ukunikeza isilinganiso salokho?
GALLOWAY: Cha. Izikhathi eziningi.
COLEMAN: Ingabe yayingaphezu kwesihlanu?
GALLOWAY: Yebo.
COLEMAN: Bangaphezu kuka-10?
GALLOWAY: Yebo.
COLEMAN: Ngabe ngu-15? Cishe ngo-15?
GALLOWAY: Hhayi-ke, siyasondela. Kodwa angizange ngibale. Kodwa izikhathi eziningi. Ngikhuluma kuwe izikhathi eziningi. Futhi ngithi kuwe nganginobungane naye.
UCOLEMAN: Futhi umchaze njengomngane othandekayo.
UGALLOWAY: Ngicabanga ukuthi uke wangicaphuna ngithi โumngane othandekayo.โ Angivamisi ukusebenzisa isichasiso esikabili, kodwa...
UCOLEMAN: Bengibheka enhliziyweni yakho ngalokho.
GALLOWAY: Kodwa โmnganiโ anginankinga naye.
Senator, ngaphambi nje kokuthi uqhubeke, ngithemba ukuthi uzozitholela leli phepha engilikhiqizile. Ngikhuluma ngawe ngempela kuSenator Levin. Yilokhu engikushilo ngoSaddam Hussein.
U-COLEMAN: Sizokufaka lokho kwirekhodi, ngaphandle kokuphikisa.
Angisenayo eminye imibuzo kafakazi. Uxolelwe, Mnu. Galloway.
GALLOWAY: Ngiyabonga kakhulu.
COLEMAN: Sinevoti. Ukulalelwa kuzohlehliswa - sinephaneli eyodwa ngaphezulu - izohlehliswa imizuzu engama-20.
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U-COLEMAN: Ikomiti Elingaphansi Laphakade Lophenyo selibuyile emsebenzini.
COLEMAN: Njengoba ngike ngabonisa kuphaneli elandelayo, ngenxa yokuthi mina noSenator Levin kufanele sibe semadlelweni ethu enkomfa namuhla, ngoba kunezinto ezibaluleke kakhulu okuxoxwa ngazo, futhi sifuna ukunikeza leli phaneli. isikhathi, sabona sengathi into engcono kakhulu ongayenza kwakuwukukuhlehlisa ukulalelwa kuleli phuzu.
Sizoba nolunye usuku, sizobeka esinye isikhathi. Kunezinye izindaba neminye imibiko ebesifuna ukuyilandela.
Leli kuzoba yiphaneli yokuqala yalelo cala elilandelayo. Ngakho sizobeka usuku futhi sizobeka isikhathi.
Futhi ngifuna ukuxolisa kusigungu ngokuphazamiseka, kodwa kukhona izinto ezisicindezelayo okumele sizilungise.
Ngakho ngalokho, lokhu kulalela manje kuhlehlisiwe.
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