U-AMY GOODMAN: Lokhu Intando yeningi Manje!, ujoyine isitudiyo sethu se-firehouse nguManning Marable, uprofesa wezindaba zomphakathi, isayensi yezombangazwe, umlando kanye nezifundo zase-Afrika zaseMelika e-Columbia University eNew York City, umbhali wezincwadi eziningi, kuhlanganise Ukuphila Umlando Omnyama: Ukucabanga Kabusha Okwedlule Kwase-Afrika NaseMelika Kungalenza Kabusha Ikusasa Lobuhlanga LaseMelika.
Siyakwamukela ku Intando yeningi Manje!
MANING MARABLE: Ngiyabonga.
U-AMY GOODMAN: Futhi, bengifuna ukukudlulisa amazwi enduduzo ngokushona kukababa wakho, cishe ngesikhathi esifanayo nokufa kukagogo kaBarack Obama.
MANING MARABLE: Kulungile. Okubuhlungu kakhulu enginakho ukuthi ubaba akazange aphile ukuze abone ukunqoba kuka-Obama. Kodwa ngicabanga ukuthi ubaba ubezojabula kakhulu kulo mcimbi izolo ebusuku.
U-AMY GOODMAN: Ubulindele ukubona lokhu okubonile? Ubulindele ukuthi lokhu kuzokwenzeka manje?
MANING MARABLE: Eqinisweni, yebo, ngenxa yezizathu ezimbili. Eyokuqala, ukuthi saba nezibalo zabantu ngasohlangothini lwethu, okungukuthi, ukuthi i-United States iguqulwa ngokushesha ngokobuzwe, ukuthi - phakathi neminyaka engamashumi amathathu ezayo, iningi labantu base-United States lizobe lihlanganisa abantu bemibala, wamaLatinos, ama-Asian America kanye nama-Afrika aseMelika, ngakho-ke umuntu ofana no-Obama wayengenakugwemeka ukuthi avele ohlelweni lwezombangazwe. Ngimangele ngandlela thize ukuthi kwenzeka ngokuzumayo ekhulwini lamashumi amabili nanye, kodwa umuntu ubeyovela nakanjani.
Okwesibili okungihlaba umxhwele ukuthi u-Obama umele, ngicabanga ukuthi, ithimba lobuholi obungathathi hlangothi base-Afrika baseMelika, elihlanganisa uDeval Patrick, umbusi waseMassachusetts, uCory Booker, imeya yaseNewark, eNew Jersey, akubona osopolitiki abagxile ezinhlangeni, abanxusa ngqo abelungu, abazama ukudeda ezindabeni zobuhlanga, abangama-pragmatist, ngokwemibono yabo bagxile kakhulu kunosopolitiki abakhululekile abaphuma emzabalazweni wamalungelo omphakathi kanye nomzabalazo wenkululeko yabantu abamnyama ngeminyaka yawo-1960 kanye nama-70s.
U-AMY GOODMAN: UBarack Obama uzoba ngumongameli wamashumi amane nane
MANING MARABLE: Kulungile. Akekho umuntu weDemocratic Alliance othole uhlobo lwe--imajini u-Barack ayenayo kusukela ku-Lyndon Johnson ngo-1964. Ube nenani elikhulu labantu baseMelika abavotile
U-AMY GOODMAN: Abantu babekhathazeke kakhulu ngesikhathi se-primary ukuthi lapha u-Obama noClinton beya kuwo, bedwengulana, futhi kwakukhona uJohn McCain ohamba ngomkhumbi. Kodwa manje abaningi bathi empeleni kubagcine begqamile, bebexosha izindaba, bezihlale zikhona, nokuthi uMcCain ubemane egudla ugu, engenzi lutho olutheni.
MANING MARABLE: Kulungile. Ngicabanga ukuthi u-Obama uyakweleta
U-AMY GOODMAN: Hhayi-ke, ake sikhulume ngalokho, ngoba yilokho kanye amaRiphabhulikhi, aphushwa ngempela nguMbusi uPalin, kodwa wayenzela uJohn McCain umsebenzi, usulu emhlanganweni weRiphabhulikhi. Bakhulume ngalo mhleli womphakathi babuza ukuthi kusho ukuthini lokho.
MANING MARABLE: Kulungile. Kodwa kwakuyizifundo zokuba umhleli womphakathi ezavumela u-Obama ukuthi aqonde ukuthi iDemocrat izowina kanjani ezweni lonke, ukuthi kwakudingeka ukuthi athuthukise amanethiwekhi lapho ufinyelela emiphakathini. Uthuthukisa ngokoqobo isu lokuhlela lokuhlanganisa izigidi ezimbalwa zabantu nokubaletha okhethweni. Kodwa kwakungaphezu nje kwesu lokhetho. Kwakuyisu lokunyakaza komphakathi elavumela u-Obama ukuba anqobe.
U-AMY GOODMAN: Kodwa futhi, ngakolunye uhlangothi, unomphakathi waphansi ohlelayo, kodwa into mhlawumbe esebenza ngokumelene nayo esikhathini esizayo futhi into amaqembu aphansi okufanele abhekane nayo: isamba esikhulu semali esathululelwa kulo mkhankaso, ekhishwe ngu, kahle, ukungathobeli imithetho yezimali zomkhankaso, ukuphuma ohlelweni lwezimali lomkhankaso womphakathi. Futhi umbuzo manje uthi uBarack Obama uzophendula kubani.
MANING MARABLE: Kulungile. Indlela engicabanga ngayo ngo-Obama manje ukuthi umelela okuthile okuphambene no-Reagan, ngomqondo wokuthi lokho u-Reagan ayemele kwakuwumugqa oqinile, i-ajenda yenqubomgomo yomphakathi ephiko kwesokudla eyayakhelwe eduze kwezimiso ezicacile-anti-communism, uhulumeni omncane. , ukwakha amasosha—kodwa ngokunxusa isikhungo; U-Obama ufana ne-reverse yalokho. Uzothola, esikhundleni sobuholi obuphakathi kwesokudla, uzothola ubuholi obuphakathi kwesokunxele. U-Obama uzobusa kusukela esikhungweni, kodwa uzofaka izikhalazo eziqinile kwesobunxele. Futhi yilokho uhulumeni wakhe ozobukeka ngayo, ngezimiso ezibalulekile: ukuzimela kwamandla, amandla ahlukile, ukuphela kwempi yase-Iraq, umnotho-ubhekana nezinkinga zomnotho zaseMelika.
U-AMY GOODMAN: Ake sikhulume ngokuphela kwempi e-Iraq. Ngisho, abanye bangaphikisa ukuthi yingakho uMongameli-kungani uBarack Obama engumongameli namuhla, ngoba wakhuluma ngokumelene nempi, futhi uHillary Clinton akazange-
MANING MARABLE: Kulungile.
U-AMY GOODMAN: - ngaphambi kokuhlinzwa. Manje, nokho, abantu kuzodingeka bambambe kulokho.
MANING MARABLE: Kulungile.
U-AMY GOODMAN: Bekungenzeka lokho nakuba abantu okhethweni obeluphuma izolo bethi wumnotho, okumenze waze wafika kuleli qophelo, ngoba bekumele awine ama-primary, yilo lolu daba.
MANING MARABLE: Kulungile. Ngicabanga ukuthi inselelo yangempela manje akuyona into eyenziwa ngu-Obama, kodwa benzani abathuthukayo? Ngenxa yokuthi sine—manje sisesimweni esingakhululekile nesingavamile, lapho, kubantu abaningi abasele phakathi nendawo, empeleni sinomngane e-White House. Uyazi, angikhumbuli, ngesikhathi sokuphila kwami-futhi ngineminyaka engamashumi amahlanu nesishiyagalombili ubudala-lapho ngingasho khona lokho, ukuthi umuntu oqonda ngokucacile izikhundla zesobunxele. Manje, sibe nezinkulumo eziningi ezingenangqondo mayelana no-Obama ukuba yi-socialist phakathi namasonto amabili okugcina omkhankaso. Akayena. Ungumuntu okhululekile oqhubekayo. Kodwa kithina esingabalandeli bentando yeningi ngempela, thina esingakwesokunxele, sihlobana kanjani nohulumeni, lapho umuntu ngokwemibono engesona isitha, umuntu oyiqondayo i-ajenda kanye nezindaba ezikhathazayo. ababencishwe amathuba ngempela? Sihlobana kanjani nalowo hulumeni? Sihlobana kanjani nepolitiki yalelo zwe? Lena inselele yangempela kwabathuthukayo.
U-AMY GOODMAN: Sezwa ngaphambilini embukisweni owesifazane owayemi kuleso sixuku esikhulu eGrant Park—futhi uGrant Park unomdumo omkhulu kusukela eminyakeni engamashumi amane edlule, kusukela ngo-1968—ethi, “Manje ngizwa sengathi lena iMelika yami.” Kuphinde kwabuyelwa ngokuthile uMichelle Obama okungenzeka ukuthi wakusho esikhathini esidlule futhi wagxekwa kakhulu: "Manje ngizizwa ngiziqhenya ngokuba umMelika."
Bengifuna ukuya manje kwamanye amazwi, amazwi amasha avela eHarlem. Izolo emini, Intando yeningi Manje! Umdidiyeli uNicole Salazar kanye nami sabhekisa amabombo eHarlem. Sahamba noMartin Luther King sabe sesidlulela kuFrederick Douglass Boulevard sase siya eMalcolm X Boulevard egcekeni, indawo yokuvota, khona lapho.
U-AMY GOODMAN: Ingabe nina madoda-niye navota?
I-DIAMOND: Yebo, sakwenza.
I-JAFAR: Yebo.
U-AMY GOODMAN: KULUNGILE. Ubani igama lakho? Uneminyaka emingaka?
I-DIAMOND: Igama lami nginguDayimane. Ngineminyaka eyishumi nesishiyagalombili.
U-AMY GOODMAN: Ingabe uyaqala ukuvota?
I-DIAMOND: Yebo kunjalo.
U-AMY GOODMAN: Wazizwa kanjani?
I-DIAMOND: Kwazwakala kumnandi. Ngiyajabula ukuthi ngivotile. Kungushintsho.
I-JAFAR: Obama.
I-DIAMOND: Yebo, Obama.
U-AMY GOODMAN: Uvotele khona lapha?
I-DIAMOND: Yebo ngikwenzile.
U-AMY GOODMAN: Kungani u-Obama?
I-DIAMOND: Ngoba ungcono kakhulu. Wenza ushintsho. Ngeke ngivotele uMcCain.
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