Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) ndi gulu landale lokonda dziko lomwe lakhala likulimbana ndi dziko la Philippines kuyambira pomwe linakhazikitsidwa mu 1969.
Imavutikira ufulu wadziko la Bangsamoro. Monga tafotokozera MNLF, gawo la Bangsamoro Land limakhudza Sulu, Mindanao ndi Palawan, omwe amadziwikanso kuti MINSUPALA, ena mwa madera osauka kwambiri ku Philippines.
Mosiyana ndi mphukira yake yachisilamu, Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF)), MNLF si gulu lachipembedzo, ndipo imatengera malingaliro ake ngati Egalitarianism. MNLF ndi yophatikiza mitundu komanso zipembedzo ndipo ikufuna kuti pakhale ufulu wodziyimira pawokha komanso chilungamo kwa anthu omwe amazunzidwa komanso kusalidwa kwambiri ku Philippines - dziko lomwe mabanja pafupifupi 20.5 kapena pafupifupi 4.1 miliyoni akukhala ndi njala pomwe 51 peresenti, kapena mabanja 10.4 miliyoni. amadziona ngati osauka, malinga ndi kafukufuku wa 2011 ndi pollster Social Weather Stations (SWS, April, 2011).
Membala wa Komiti Yaikulu ya MNLF, Mtsogoleri Haji Ibrahim "Bambi", wazaka 67, adakumana ndi wolemba kuyankhulana mu January 2013 pamalo osadziwika ku Sabah, Malaysia.
AV (Andre Vltchek): Njira yamtendere, mapangano amtendere, mapangano osweka amtendere ndi njira zina… Zikuwoneka ngati nkhani yosatha. Mukuyang'anizana ndi magulu ankhondo aku Philippines (AFP), amodzi mwa magulu ankhondo ankhanza komanso achinyengo padziko lapansi; gulu lankhondo, lomwe likuchirikizidwa motsimikiza ndi omwe kale anali atsamunda a Philippines, United States, Spain, ndipo ndithudi Europe. Kodi muli ndi mwayi uliwonse wopambana nkhondoyi ndipo chifukwa chake ufulu wa anthu anu?
CB (Commander “Bambi”): Sizingakhale zophweka. Tonse tiyenera kugwirizanitsa: MNLF, MILF, ndi magulu a Marxist. MILF iyenera kuvomera kulowa nawo pakukhazikitsa malamulo ndikuvomera kukambirana; chinachake chimene akukana kuchita. Tonse tiyenera kukhala pansi ndi kukambirana.
United States, Europe, Kumadzulo konse kukadayenera kugwirizanitsa zoyesayesa zathu kuti tikwaniritse, kenako kuthandizira, mgwirizano weniweni wamtendere.
Njira yamtendere ili pachiwopsezo, chifukwa zambiri zomwe zidagwirizana pa Pangano la Tripoli la 1976 ndipo kenako ku Jeddah Accord ku 1987 sizinachitike. Boma tsopano likutanganidwa ndi MILF. Kuonjezera apo, ndondomeko yamtendere iyenera kutsata ndondomeko ya malamulo, mkati mwa Boma la Philippines. Iyenera kudutsa mu Senate komanso kudzera mu Congress. Ndipo mfundo yoti pali Akhristu ambiri kuposa Asilamu m'mabungwe onsewa, ngakhale ku Nyumba Yamalamulo ya Mindanao, zitha kusokoneza zinthu.
Nthawi ina ndinapita kumsonkhano wothandizidwa ndi limodzi mwa mayiko a EU. Panalinso oimira Colombia kumeneko, aku Indonesia, komanso anthu a 3 ochokera ku US; mwina CIA. Ndinawauza kuti: “Abale aku America, si adani athu eti? Munali kutilalikira za ufulu kwa zaka zambiri ndi zaka zambiri. Koma mukakhala kuno, simukufuna mtendere, m’malo mwake mukugwirizana ndi boma la Philippines kuti anthu asafune.”
AV: Kodi United States ikuyesera kukwaniritsa chiyani pothandizira boma la Philippines?
CB: Cholinga cha US ndikuwongolera Pacific yonse. Ikufuna kuletsa China kuti isachite nawo gawo lililonse mdziko muno.
A US akusewera masewera owopsa kwambiri pophunzitsa asilikali a ku Philippines, kulungamitsa ndi 'kufufuza' kwa asilikali a Abu Sayyaf. Zonsezi zikutsutsana ndi Constitution ya ku Philippines - asilikali a US saloledwa kugwira ntchito m'dera la Philippines. Koma kuchita masewera olimbitsa thupi - Balikatan - akuyenera kupereka 'zovomerezeka' kunkhondo zosaloledwa.
AV: Kodi US ikugwiritsa ntchito zabodza kulungamitsa kukhalapo kwake ku Philippines?
CB: Inde, mabodzawa amagwiritsidwa ntchito ku Philippines konse. A US nthawi zonse amawonetsedwa ngati omasula, ngati anyamata abwino. Kwenikweni, imadziwonetsera yokha ngati choncho. Anthu adzaza ndi mafilimu, mabuku, ndi ziwonetsero… Douglas MacArthur akuperekedwa ngati womasula, ndipo anthu amakhulupiriradi, pambuyo pa zaka zonsezo ndi zaka zambiri zabodza.
Ndiyeno nkhani yotimasula ku Japan! Zoonadi anthu okalamba ku Philippines sanazoloŵere khalidwe la Ajapani, pamene analanda dzikolo—monga kugwada. Panali kusamvana kwa chikhalidwe, ndipo ngakhale milandu yochitidwa ndi Ajapani. Koma oukira ku Japan sanaphe anthu wamba ku Philippines, pomwe US idatero. Chomwe chimasungidwa ngati chinsinsi ndikuti US inali yankhanza kwambiri kuposa Japan m'dera lino ladziko lapansi - ndipo nkhanzazo zinkachitika ngakhale Japan isanayambe. Ingokumbukirani kuphedwa kwa Balangiga.
AV: Ndinamva, ku Philippine akatswiri, kuti US igniting mkangano pakati osewera angapo dera ku Southeast Asia ndi China, pa Spratly Islands. Zikuoneka kuti idapeza othandizira mwapadera m'maboma aposachedwa kwambiri ku Philippines.
CB: Apanso: US ikufuna kukhala ndi ulamuliro wonse pa Pacific. Chifukwa chake ikufunika mayiko ngati Philippines - makasitomala amati.
Tidakwiyitsa vuto lazilumba za Spratly; boma lathu liyerekeze kusewera masewerawa chifukwa likudziwa kuti lili ndi US kumbuyo kwake.
Ndikoyenera kunena kuti Spratlys anali m'mbiri ya Sulu Sultanate. Zilumbazi zimatchedwa, m'chinenero chawo, "Manangkayan", "Giant Clam". Masultani a Sulu anali pafupi kwambiri ndi China. Kuli manda a anthu aku China, ku Sulu konse. Nthumwi za ku China zinali kukhala pafupi ndi nyumba yachifumu ya Sultan. China inali bwenzi lapamtima la Sulu asilikali a ku Spain asanabwere. Zomwe zidatsatira, mukudziwa: zinthu zidasinthidwa ndipo anthu aku Spain adapha anthu pafupifupi 10 aku China nthawi imodzi, chifukwa sanafune kusiya chikhalidwe chawo, kusintha dzina lawo ...
Koma ku Philippines, n’zochepa kwambiri zimene zimadziwa zokhudza mbiri ya derali.
Nthawi zonse ndimati: "Chifukwa chiyani mukukwiyitsa China? Boma likuwononga ndalama zambiri pokonza zombo zankhondo zamakono. Chifukwa chiyani? Kodi ndikupita kunkhondo ndi China m'malo mwa wina? Bwanji osakonza Philippines, m'malo mwake? Kumeneko kuli zowawa zambiri.
AV: Tiyeni tikambirane za gulu lanu tsopano: mudali m'modzi mwa atsogoleri a MNLF kwa zaka zambiri… Kodi zinthu zidasintha? Kodi MNLF ikufuna kudzilamulira panokha?
CB: Poyamba tidayitanitsa ufulu wodzilamulira. Kenako mayiko achisilamu adatikakamiza. Iwo anatiuza kuti: yesani kudzilamulira kaye ndi kuchoka kumeneko.
Moyenera, tinkafuna ufulu wa Mindanao yonse. Tidawona kuti ichi ndi cholinga chofunikira popeza Manila adatisungitsa - kumbuyo kwenikweni. Ine ndekha ndikadakhazikika m'mbuyomu kuti Mindanao akhale woyamba kukhala dziko limodzi mdziko muno - zofanana ndi zomwe ali nazo kuno ku Malaysia. Mumapereka likulu la 20% mpaka 30% yazinthu zachilengedwe, ndi zina zotero.
AV: Kodi angakhale Msilamu kapena dziko losapembedza?
CB: Lingakhale, ndipo liyenera kukhala, dziko ladziko. Tsopano ku Mindanao kuli Akhristu ambiri, kenako Asilamu. Lingakhale dziko la tonsefe: kwa Akhristu, Asilamu, ndi Abuda komanso kwa anthu aku China. M’gulu lathu, tili ndi Akhristu, ndipo anthu ambiri a ku China akutithandiza.
AV: Nanga bwanji a Marxists, Commander? Kodi mungagwirizane ndi zigawenga za Marxist ku Mindanao?
CB: Inde! Cha m’ma 1976, ndinakumana ndi ena mwa omenyana nawo. Ndendende - tinagwirizana. Panthaŵiyo ndinali woyang’anira amuna 70 ndipo gulu lawo m’dera limenelo linali ndi anthu 7 kapena 8 okha. Nthawi zonse timawaona ngati othandizana nawo. Amene akulimbana ndi boma la Philippines - mphamvu yankhanza ndi yachinyengo - ndi ogwirizana athu.
AV: Pamene mukuti "mphamvu yankhanza ndi yachinyengo", kodi mumaganizira za Maguindanao Massacre, monga chitsanzo?
CB: Ndendende - chimenecho chinali chimodzi mwa zitsanzo zoyipa kwambiri za momwe mphamvu zachinyengo ndi zankhanza ku Philippines zilili. Inali nkhani yoyipa ya fuko la Ampatuan kuyesa kuwonetsa Purezidenti Arroyo zomwe angachite m'chigawo chawocho. Ndipo uthenga unali wakuti: Tikhoza kuchita chilichonse! Chifukwa, ngakhale kuti mayiko a Kumadzulo amatcha dziko la Philippines ‘demokalase’, ndi limodzi mwa mayiko amene olamulira angachite chilichonse chimene angafune kwa anthu awo. Ku Maguindanao, anthu omwe adatsutsana ndi fuko la Ampatuan adaphedwa; Azimayi kuphatikizapo atolankhani anagwiriridwa asanaphedwe, amayi onse anawomberedwa kumaliseche, kenaka kudulidwa mitu… Anthu 57, kuphatikizapo atolankhani 34 amwalira. Mukangotsutsana ndi olamulira, izi ndi zomwe zimakuchitikirani ku Philippines.
AV: Nthaŵi ina ndinkagwira ntchito ku Gingook ndi Cagayan de Oro, ku Mindanao. Ndinaitanidwa ndi limodzi la mafuko olamulira amphamvu kwambiri m’dzikolo, chifukwa ndinali bwenzi la mmodzi wa oimba opambana a ku Philippines, amene amakhala m’dzikolo. Paphwando la chakudya chamadzulo, mamembala a banjali adayamba kukambirana za chisankho chomwe chikubwera: adzalipira ndani; amene adzapereka ziphuphu ndi kuchuluka kwa ndalama zomwe zidzakhudzidwe. Iwo ankadziwa yemwe ine ndinali: ena amawerenga ngakhale mabuku anga asanandiitane ine; amawerenga nkhani zanga ndi malipoti. Koma analibe mantha. Anali otsimikiza kotheratu kuti palibe chimene chingawononge mphamvu zawo ndi zolinga zawo. Iwo ankatchulanso mayina a anzawo m’boma patebulo, pamaso panga.
CB: Mukulondola: alibe mantha! Amagula mavoti, poyera. Aliyense amadziwa kuchuluka kwa ndalama zomwe amalipidwa komanso ndani. Ndi misala yotheratu.
AV: Ndi anthu angati ku Mindanao amakuthandizani - MNLF?
CB: 99% ya Asilamu. Tsopano tili m’kati mwa kufotokoza kwa abale athu achikristu kuti chifukwa chathu si Chisilamu, ndi kuti si Asilamu onse amene ali oipa.
AV: Kodi zabodza zotsutsana ndi Asilamu ndizoyipa bwanji ku Philippines?
CB: Zoyipa, zoyipa kwambiri. Ndipo ikufalikira kwa zaka mazana ambiri.
Chimene sanena n’chakuti anthu a ku Spain asanabwere kudzatilamulira, onsewa anali madera achisilamu, ngakhale amene panopa ndi Manila. Kenako anayamba kuwononga chikhalidwe chathu, kuukira chipembedzo chathu. Iwo ankatikakamiza kuti tikhale Pablo kapena Pedro, m’malo mwa Ibrahim kapena Abdullah. M’mbuyomu, anthu a ku Spain ankatitcha ‘achifwamba’. Koma kodi achifwambawo ndi ndani kwenikweni? Kodi si achifwamba amene amalanda dziko lanu ndi kulilanda?
Panthawi ya Marcos, magulu ankhondo achikhristu otchedwa Ilaga anayamba kuthamangitsa Asilamu m'nyumba zawo ku Mindanao.
Panalinso njira zazikulu zokhazikitsira anthu komanso kulanda malo ambiri a Asilamu, zomwe zidapangidwa kuti Asilamu akhale ochepa m'madera awo.
AV: Ndiye zikhala bwanji tsopano, Mtsogoleri - nkhondo kapena zokambirana?
CB: Tiyenera kugwirizana - tonse amene tikumenyera ufulu ndi chilungamo. Koma tinamenyana kale kwambiri! Tinamenyana nthawi ya Marcos; kamodzi ndinamenya nkhondo kwa miyezi 6, usana ndi usiku, popanda kupuma.
Ndatopa. Ndatopa kumenyana. Ndili ndi zaka 67. Ndikudziwa kuti nkhondoyi ikhoza kupitilira zaka 100.
Ndikudziwa chikhalidwe cha anthu a kudera lino. Chondichititsa mantha n’chakuti tsiku lina anthu ena otengeka maganizo achipembedzo angasonkhezere ana athu achichepere. Zitha kuchitika, mukudziwa, ngati palibe njira yothetsera mkangano. Zingakhale zoopsa kwambiri.
AV: Kusamvana kulinso pazachuma komanso chikhalidwe, osati ndale, sichoncho? Pamene ndinkagwira ntchito pachilumba cha Basilan, nthawi ina ndinakumana ndi chipatala china 'chokonzedwa' ndi thandizo la US. Malo ochitira opareshoni kumeneko anali oipa kwambiri, ndipo nditalowa m’dipatimenti ya zamankhwala, ndinauzidwa kuti kunalibe zobowolera, koma zida zochotsera mano.
CB: Ndipo ndikutsimikiza kuti analibe mankhwala oletsa ululu, mwina - pazotulutsazo.
Ndi nkhani ya chikhalidwe. Anthu athu akukhala m’mikhalidwe yoipa kwambiri. M’mikhalidwe yoipitsitsa, yoipa kwambiri, kuposa anthu a ku Luzon ndi kwina kulikonse ku Philippines. Mwa njira: Ndimadana ndi dzina la dzikolo. Inu mukudziwa chifukwa chake izo zimatchedwa izo? Pambuyo pa Mfumu Philip II!
AV: Ndi anthu angati omwe anamwalira pankhondo mpaka pano?
CB: Tilibe manambala enieni, koma ngakhale kalekale tidawerengera kuti anthu wamba opitilira 100.000 ayenera kuti adamwalira. Nthawi zambiri tinalibe nthawi yoika akufa athu - nthawi zina ankadyedwa ndi agalu; zinali zoipa. Chifukwa chake m'zaka za m'ma 70 - anthu opitilira 100,000 adamwalira.
Mu 1976 - ku Zamboanga Norte, nthawi ina ndimatha kuwerenga mitu ya anthu - mitu 68 yonse - chifukwa magulu a boma adawotcha matupi awo. Onse omwe adazunzidwawo anali amapiri - ochokera ku fuko la Kalibugan. Zigaza zina zinali zazikulu - za amuna ndi akazi akuluakulu - koma zina zinali zazing'ono; za makanda. Ndipo uku kunali kupha kumodzi kokha kochuluka kotere!
Marcos adayambitsa Marshall Law panthawi ya ulamuliro wake. Tidataya omenyera nkhondo ambiri panthawiyo, koma boma la Philippines lidataya zochulukirapo kuwirikiza katatu kuposa momwe tidachitira.
AV: Kodi mumatchedwa chiyani ndi US?
CB: Kale ankatitchula kuti Maoist kapena Achikomyunizimu.
Sitili pamndandanda wawo wa zigawenga uja. Koma amationa kuti ndife adani awo aakulu.
Abu Sayyaf ali pamndandanda wawo wa zigawenga, ndithudi. Koma CIA inapanga Abu Sayyaf panthawi ya boma la Ramos, kuti asokoneze MNLF. Maboma onse a US ndi Philippines anafunikira mabomba owonjezereka kuti aphulike, zida zambiri zogwiritsidwa ntchito; kuti ndalama zawo zankhondo zivomerezedwe. Palibenso chinsinsi kuti panthawi ya kubedwa kwa Abu Sayyaf, 80-90% ya ndalama za dipo zomwe zimagwiritsidwa ntchito kupita kwa atsogoleri ankhondo.
Ndipo US 'ili kutali kwambiri', ndipo 'sakuwona'. Chabwino, sizikufuna kuwona, ndizo zonse. Ngati icho chikafuna kuwona, icho chikanawona bwino lomwe chimene chikuchitika.
Boma ndi US akunena kwa MNLF: "O, simungathe kulamulira anthu anu - Abu Sayyaf!" Akuti palibe mtendere umene ungapezeke ngati sitingathe kumulamulira Abu Sayyaf. Ndizosatsutsika kuti omenyera nkhondo a Abu Sayyaf anali mamembala akale a MNLF - kuphatikiza Commander Nur.
Koma chimene akukana kunena ndi kuvomereza ndikuti ife timamuda Abu Sayyaf! Ife tiribe kanthu kochita nawo. Mu Mindanao monse, anthu akudzipatula kwa iwo, akuwawona ngati makasitomala a asitikali aku US… Abu Sayyaf ali ndi chithunzi choyipa kwambiri!
Ndikufuna kunena kuti MNLF inamenyana ndi Abu Sayyaf. Nthawi ina adabera sing'anga wachikazi, kuchokera kwa ife. Tinaukira msasa wawo ndikumasula sing'anga.
AV: Monga momwe zimakhalira nthawi zambiri, kodi Saudis akutenga nawo mbali?
CB: M'mbuyomu, Saudis adayesa kangapo kuti atenge nawo mbali, koma osati pano, osati pakadali pano.
AV: Nthawi ino tikukumana ku Sabah State, ku Malaysia. Dzikoli linali la Philippines; kapena momwe mudzalozera molondola - kwa Sulu Sultanate.
CB: Kwa zaka mazana ambiri, ma Sultanate a Sulu ndi Sabah anali amodzi. Pa nthawi ina Sabah anapimidwa; kupatsidwa kwa British. Koma kwa ife - sitikufuna kuti Sabah apite ku Philippines, chifukwa Malaysia ndi dziko labwinoko. Nthaŵi ina ndinauza Sultan wa ku Sulu kuti: “Ngati ungaumirire kuti Sabah akhale nawo ku Philippines, tidzamenyana nanu!”
Pa nthawi ya ulamuliro wankhanza wa Marcos, Mindanao ndi amene anakhudzidwa kwambiri. Pafupifupi miliyoni imodzi adasamukira kuno, ku Sabah, kuchokera ku Zamboanga, Sulu ndi Basilan.
AV: Pa zaka 67, kodi mudakali nawo pankhondoyi?
CB: Inde, ndikadali membala wa Central Committee komanso Commander wa Special Forces of MNLF.
Koma tsopano ndikuyang'ana mwachangu njira zothetsera mavuto. Mapangano a mtendere omwe tinali nawo si olimba. Ndikufuna kuti otsutsa onse agwirizane, agwirizane, akambirane.
AV: Dziko lachikunja, mudatero. Koma ndi dongosolo la ndale ndi zachuma lotani limene mukuliganizira?
CB: Dongosolo losakanikirana. Sikuti ndi dongosolo la chikapitalist - yang'anani ku Philippines - sitikufuna zimenezo. Ndikufuna socialism yotseguka.
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Andre Vltchek ndi wolemba mabuku, wopanga mafilimu komanso mtolankhani wofufuza. Anafotokoza za nkhondo ndi mikangano m’maiko ambiri. Buku lake la Western imperialism ku South Pacific - Oceania - lofalitsidwa ndi Expathos. Bukhu lake lokopa lonena za post-Suharto Indonesia komanso mtundu wokhazikika pamsika umatchedwa "Indonesia - The Archipelago of Fear"(Pluto). Atakhala zaka zambiri ku Latin America ndi Oceania, Vltchek tsopano amakhala ndikugwira ntchito ku East Asia ndi Africa. Iye akhoza kufikiridwa kudzera mwa iye webusaiti.
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