ʻO ka piʻi ʻana o Donald Trump ma luna o ka ʻaoʻao Repubalika ua hālāwai me nā nīnau he nui e pili ana i ka holomua lāhui a me ka hoʻoponopono pilikanaka ma ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa. ʻO ka piʻi ʻana o Donald Trump i ka mana i hoʻoulu ʻia e ka "keʻokeʻo hoʻokele waiwai?" ʻO kahi ʻē aʻe, he hana ia o ka racism keʻokeʻo a me ka nativism? He aha kāna lanakila ʻana e nā supremacists keʻokeʻo e like me David Duke a me neo-Nazis?
I ka hoʻāʻo ʻana e pane i kēia mau nīnau, ua kamaʻilio wau me Tim Wise, kekahi o nā mea hana antiracism alakaʻi o ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa a me ka mea kākau o nā puke he nui e like me "Dear White America: Letter to a New Minority," a me "Under the Affluence: Shaming the Poor, Praising the Rich and Sacrificing the Future of America" e pili ana i ka hanana ʻo Trump a me kāna mea e hōʻike ai no ka wā e hiki mai ana o ka politika a me ke kaiāulu ʻAmelika.
Ua hoʻoponopono ʻia kēia nīnauele no ka maopopo a me ka lōʻihi.
Chauncey DeVega: Ke hana nei ʻoe i nā pilikia antiracism a me ka hoʻoponopono pili kanaka no kekahi manawa. Ua hakakā ʻoe iā David Duke i kona holo mua ʻana ma ke keʻena koho, ua kākau i kekahi mau puke e pili ana i ka pono keʻokeʻo a hele i ka ʻāina e kamaʻilio e pili ana i kēia mau pilikia. He aha kāu e hana ai i kēia manawa politika?
ʻO Tim Wise: Ke hoʻomanaʻo maopopo nei au, ʻoiai he hapahā haneli, ʻo ka pō i eo ai ʻo David Duke i ka lāhui Senate i ka makahiki 1990. ʻO ka poʻe o mākou i komo i kēlā, ua ʻākoakoa mākou ma ka Sheraton, manaʻo wau, ma ka Alanui Canal ma New Orleans. Aia ma laila ka media a nīnau lākou i koʻu haku i kēlā manawa, Kauka Lance, [o ka Louisiana Coalition Against Racism and Nazism], "He aha kāu e hana ai i kēia?" A ʻo kāna ʻōlelo "ʻAe, i kēia pō he referendum no ka inaina, a lanakila ka inaina."
Ua nalowale ʻo Duke. Ua eo ʻo ia ma ke ʻano o ka pākēneka, akā ua loaʻa iā ia ma kahi o 60 pakeneka o nā koho keʻokeʻo. Manaʻo wau ʻo ka balota holoʻokoʻa e like me 56 a 44. Akā ua loaʻa iā ia he 60 pakeneka o ka balota keʻokeʻo. ʻO ka mea a Lance i ʻōlelo ai i kēlā manawa - a ʻo kāna mea e haʻi hou ai i ka makahiki e hiki mai ana i ka wā i pio ai ʻo Duke i ka heihei o ke kiaʻāina akā loaʻa mau ka 55 pakeneka o ka balota [keʻokeʻo] - ʻaʻole ʻo Duke ka pilikia. ʻO Duke-ism ia. ʻO ia ka noʻonoʻo o ka hoʻopiʻi ʻana i ka poʻe ʻeleʻele a me ka ʻeleʻele no nā pilikia i hana ʻole ʻia e lākou, e hoʻokae ana i nā poʻe kala no kēlā me kēia pilikia pilikanaka.
A ʻoiai ua hala ka hapahā kenekulia, ʻike wau ma nā ʻano he nui, ʻo ia nō ko mākou wahi. ʻO ka ʻokoʻa wale nō, a he mea weliweli hoʻi, ʻo ia i kēlā mau lā he nui o mākou i manaʻoʻiʻo - koʻu luna, ʻo wau iho, ka poʻe aʻu i hana pū ai - ua manaʻo mākou he maʻalahi ke lawe ʻia ʻo Duke-ism ma nā laina mokuʻāina. Ke hoʻomanaʻo nei au i kapa ʻia ʻo Lance he "politika cocaine." Hiki ke hūnā ʻia a hiki ke lawe ʻia ma nā laina mokuʻāina. A ʻōlelo ka poʻe, “ʻAe, ʻo Louisiana wale nō. ʻO kēlā poʻe Louisiana naʻaupō wale kēlā.
Akā, ua ʻike mau mākou aia kahi mākeke no ka inaina keʻokeʻo, a he hapahā haneli ma hope mai ke manaʻo nei au ua ʻoi aku ka waiwai o ka mākeke ma ke ʻano o nā ʻano mea a Duke i ʻōlelo ai i ka hapaha haneli i hala aku nei ke ʻano o ka manaʻo nui.
He kumu ia a lakou e paani nei no ka manawa loihi loa a ke manao nei au aole i noonoo nui ka aoao Demokarata.
CD: Ma muli o ka mōʻaukala āu i waiho ai, manaʻo anei ʻoe e hoʻohuli nei ʻo Donald Trump i nā poʻe hou a i ʻole ʻae ʻo ia iā lākou e leo a hana i nā manaʻo i loaʻa iā lākou?
TW: ʻO koʻu manaʻo, ʻoi aku ka nui o ka hope ma mua o ka mua. He manaʻo manaʻo paha kēlā. Akā ʻo koʻu manaʻo, ʻo ka poʻe e laina ana, a ke kamaʻilio nei au i ke kumu paʻakikī maoli o ke kākoʻo ʻo Trump, he poʻe ʻaʻole pono e hoʻomaopopo ʻia e Donald Trump ʻo ka "pilikia" he Mekiko a i ʻole ka "pilikia." "ʻo ia ka Black Lives Matter a i ʻole ka "pilikia" he Muslim. He poʻe kēia, e like me nā hōʻike a pau aʻu i ʻike ai, ʻo ia paha ke ʻano o ka poʻe i manaʻoʻiʻo ʻaʻole i hānau ʻia ka pelekikena ma ʻAmelika.
ʻO koʻu manaʻo, ʻo ka mea kākoʻo kumu maʻamau ʻo Trump - ʻaʻole wau e ʻōlelo nei i kēlā me kēia kākoʻo akā ʻo ka poʻe i paʻakikī maoli i ka hapakolu o ka ʻaoʻao Repubalika i hele mai ma laila mai ka hoʻomaka ʻana - he poʻe i manaʻo ʻole ʻia. ʻO ia ka mea nāna i nānā i kāna moho e like me kēia ʻano kumu no ka ʻōlelo ʻana i nā ʻōlelo pupule āpau a lākou i noʻonoʻo ai a ʻōlelo ai i kā lākou leka uila pilikino no nā makahiki. ʻO ia ke kumu o ka nui o kēia e pili ana i ka "paʻi ʻana i ka pono politika."
Akā aia kekahi poʻe ma waho - manaʻo wau no ko lākou ʻano kāne palupalu, ko lākou ʻano keʻokeʻo ponoʻī - manaʻoʻiʻo "ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke ʻōlelo hou aku i kaʻu mea e ʻōlelo ai." ʻAe, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo ia ka bullshit. Hiki i nā kānaka ke ʻōlelo i nā mea a lākou e makemake ai e ʻōlelo. ʻAʻole mākou e laina iā ʻoe i ka pā a pana iā ʻoe ma ke poʻo no kou ʻano nui.
Akā ʻo ka mea ʻoiaʻiʻo, inā ʻoe e ʻōlelo nui, pupule, misogynistic, racist shit, loaʻa iā mākou ke kuleana e kapa iā ʻoe he pupule, manaʻo nui misogynistic racist. A inā ʻoe e hoʻopiʻi e pili ana i ka hoʻopaʻa inoa ʻana i ka mea a kāu mau ʻōlelo ponoʻī e hōʻoiaʻiʻo ai iā mākou ʻo ʻoe ʻo ʻoe, ʻaʻohe āu kumu nui e kū ai. Manaʻo wau ʻo ia kahi o Trump. ʻAʻole ʻo ia e hoʻohuli nei i ka poʻe, akā lawe ʻo ia i ka poʻe i manaʻoʻiʻo ua paʻa ko lākou leo.
CD: Ua kākau ʻo Carole Pateman lāua ʻo Charles Mills i kahi puke maikaʻi loa i kapa ʻia ʻo "The Contract and Domination," e nānā ana i ka pili ʻana ma waena o ka racism a me ka sexism. Ke nānā nei i ka lōʻihi, pehea kou manaʻo e pili ana ka racism a mākou i ʻike ai e kūʻē iā Obama mai nā conservatives i ka sexism a me ka misogyny a Hillary Clinton e ʻike ai inā koho ʻia ʻo ia i pelekikena?
TW: Ua hui pū lākou. ʻAʻohe ala e hoʻomaopopo ai i ka hanana Trump, no ka laʻana, a me ka huhū iā Hillary Clinton, ma ke ʻano he hihia sexist wale nō. A ʻaʻohe ala e hoʻomaopopo ai i ka huhū iā Barack Obama ma ke ʻano he hihia lāhui wale nō no ka mea ua pili kēia mau mea āpau.
No ka laʻana, ʻo ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa a ka poʻe i kekahi manawa e pili ana i ka poʻe kākoʻo ʻo Trump, ʻo ia "ʻAe, ʻike ʻoe, aia kēia ʻano papa, a he poʻe papa hana wale nō lākou e manaʻo ʻia e ka hoʻokele waiwai, a ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou ke ʻike pono i kā lākou. hopu i ka ʻoihana, a no laila pono mākou e hoʻomaopopo iā lākou. "
ʻAe, inā he pilikia papa hana, inā he pilikia papa e kūʻē i ka lāhui a i ʻole ke kāne a i ʻole nā mea ʻelua, a laila e manaʻo ʻoe i nā poʻe ʻeleʻele a me Latino a me ʻAsia - ʻo lākou ka papa hana i nā pākēneka ʻoi aku ka nui, pono wau e kuhikuhi. [waho], ma mua o ka poʻe keʻokeʻo - e hoʻopili iā Donald Trump. E ʻōlelo paha ʻoe, inā he pilikia papa, ʻo ka pākēneka like ʻole o ka poʻe limahana hana he poʻe kala ke aloha iā Donald Trump. A, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻole lākou.
Ma ke ʻano like, inā ʻo ka huhū iā Hillary Clinton he hihia o ka misogyny a i ʻole patriarchy, manaʻo ʻoe e kūʻē like nā kāne ʻeleʻele, nā kāne Latino, nā kāne ʻAsia, nā kāne ʻōiwi maoli o ʻAmelika ʻAmelika e like me ke kūʻē iā ia a e like me ke kākoʻo ʻana iā ia. ʻO Trump me he mau kāne keʻokeʻo. A he aha ka ʻōlelo a ka ʻikepili? Akaka maoli ka ʻikepili. ʻO ia ka mea ʻoiaʻiʻo ʻo nā kāne keʻokeʻo ke kumu no Donald Trump. No laila ke kamaʻilio nei mākou e pili ana i nā pilikia kāne a me nā wahine, pono mākou e hoʻomaopopo aia kahi kāne keʻokeʻo palupalu i ke kumu o ka neʻe ʻana o Trump.
CD: Ua ʻōlelo ʻoe i ka ʻōlelo kilokilo ma laila: "fragile white masculinity." No ke aha i loaʻa ai ka pane ʻino ma ka pūnaewele a ma nā wahi ʻē aʻe i nā kūkākūkā o kēlā manaʻo?
TW: ʻAe, manaʻo wau he mea liʻiliʻi loa ia e pili ana i ka manaʻo maʻamau o kēlā me kēia hui i manaʻo nui ʻia e kū pono i ka manaʻo o ka pluralism a me ka hoʻokaʻawale ʻana i ka lewa he mea weliweli loa, manaʻo wau. No laila aia kekahi hapa o ia mea maʻamau a aia kekahi hapa o ia mea kikoʻī loa. Ke kānalua nei au ma waena o kēia mau pou ʻelua o ka makemake e hoʻomaopopo a me ka makemake ʻole.
Me he mea lā iaʻu ma kekahi ʻaoʻao, inā ʻoe e nostalgic no kēia au o ke keʻokeʻo, Kristiano, pololei, hegemony kāne, aia kekahi hapa oʻu e makemake e ʻōlelo aku iā ʻoe, "Fuck oe." Aia maoli kekahi hapa o koʻu makemake e ʻōlelo, "Makemake au e make kou ʻAmelika, a makemake wau e kaumaha ʻoe i ka lā ʻapōpō, a makemake wau e hana ʻoe i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ua hala kou ʻāina. A ʻaʻohe oʻu manaʻo no ka mea, ʻo kou ʻāina, e like me kāu i manaʻo ai, pono e make.
A aia kekahi ʻāpana o aʻu - no ka mea ʻaʻole wau he pupule a hoʻāʻo wau e lilo i kanaka kūpono - nāna e ʻōlelo, "Auwe, ʻike ʻoe i ke aha? He mea paʻakikī loa ka haʻi ʻia ʻana i kou ola a pau iā ʻoe ke ao nei, ua kuleana ʻoe i nā mea āpau a laila hele mai ʻoe e ʻike i kēlā, ʻe, malia paha ʻoe e hoʻoholo i kāu ʻāpana. ma mua o nā mea a pau. ʻAʻole nau hewa i hoʻopunipuni ʻia ai ʻoe. ʻAʻole nau ka hewa i haʻi aku ai kekahi iā ʻoe he pupule ʻoe a laila hele mai e ʻike ʻo ʻoe kekahi o nā mea he nui.
No laila, aia kekahi hapa o koʻu makemake, e like me ka ʻōlelo a ua ʻōlelo pinepine au i kēia i kaʻu hana, "e palupalu i nā kānaka a paʻakikī hoʻi i nā ʻōnaehana" no ka mea ʻike wau ʻo nā ʻōnaehana ka pilikia maoli. Akā, aia ma kēlā wahi āu e ʻōlelo ai, “Ua ʻike ʻoe i ke aha? I kekahi manawa i ka wā e hoʻoweliweli ai kāu ʻano pilikino i ka demokala, hoʻoweliweli i ka hoʻopono, a laila pono wau e ʻōwili wale iā ʻoe. "
A e ʻoiaʻiʻo wau iā ʻoe no ka mea, manaʻo wau e pono kākou e ʻoiaʻiʻo i kēia mau ʻano manawa. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu ʻo wai o ia mau hiʻohiʻona ka mea e lanakila ai. Makemake au e lilo i mea lokomaikaʻi a ecumenical a hana i nā mea a pau. A laila aia kekahi hapa oʻu e like me, "Shit, makemake ʻoe e pepehi i koʻu poʻe a manaʻo wau e hana maikaʻi iā ʻoe? Makemake ʻoe e ʻōwili ma luna o ka poʻe aʻu e mālama nei a manaʻo wau e kono aku iā ʻoe i kofe?" ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu. Piʻi loa i ka lewa.
CD: ʻAʻole wau hopohopo nui i ke koho balota. Manaʻo wau e kokoke loa ana ia ma mua o ka ʻōlelo ʻana a ka poʻe pundits e lilo ana a nalowale ʻo Trump. He aha kou manaʻo i ka lā ma hope me kēia poʻe koho i eo? Ma hea lākou e hele ai?
TW: ʻO kēlā, manaʻo wau, ʻo ia ka pilikia no ka mea hope ʻelua mau mea e hana nei. ʻO kekahi kēia poʻe Trump, a ke kamaʻilio nei wau e pili ana i kā lākou kākoʻo kumu paʻakikī. Manaʻo lākou e lanakila ana lākou. Hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻike iā ia ma Twitter. Hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻike ma Facebook. Ua ʻike ʻoe, ua ʻōlelo ʻo Sean Hannity, ʻoi aku ka nui o ka poʻe hahai Facebook iā Trump; ʻoi aku kāna mau hui nui.
No laila, manaʻo wau ʻo ka pōʻino . . . ke eo lākou a ʻae wau me ʻoe, manaʻo wau e eo ana lākou, ʻoiai ʻaʻole ia he ʻoiaʻiʻo. ʻO ka nīnau, Inā kokoke ka huina balota - inā he 10 mau helu, ʻokoʻa ia - akā inā he 4 mau helu a i ʻole 5 mau helu a emi mai paha, ma hea lākou e hele ai? Ua kākau wau iā "Dear White America" i ka makahiki 2012. ʻO kaʻu manaʻo i kēlā manawa, he aha ka hana a kēia poʻe keʻokeʻo i hānai ʻia i kēia hopohopo a me ka huhū a me kēia manaʻo ua 'nalo ko lākou ʻāina'?
I kēlā manawa e noʻonoʻo ana au i ka Pāʻina Tea; ʻAʻole wau i noʻonoʻo e pili ana iā Trumpkins. ʻO kaʻu manaʻo i kēlā manawa, He aha ka hana a kēia poʻe? ʻO kēia anei ke ʻano o ka poʻe e ʻōlelo hauʻoli nei, “Auē, ua eo mākou, ʻeha. Akā, e hoʻoikaika nui mākou i ka wā aʻe a e hoʻopōmaikaʻi, i loko o ʻehā makahiki e hoʻi mai mākou a mākaukau mākou e hele. ʻO kaʻu hoʻopaʻapaʻa i kēlā manawa, a i kēia manawa, ʻaʻole wau i manaʻo ʻo ia ke ʻano o ka poʻe o Trump. ʻAʻole wau i manaʻo ʻo ka poʻe o Trump ke ʻano o ka poʻe e hele nei, "Gosh darn it. Pehea e hiki ai iā mākou ke hoʻololi i kā mākou leka e loaʻa ai ka poʻe koho koho?" ʻO kēia ka poʻe aʻu e manaʻo nei, he ʻoiaʻiʻo loa, nalowale i Nowemapa a laila nānā lākou a nānā i ko lākou pā a ʻōlelo lākou, "Well goddamn. Nui kā mākou mau pū. ʻAʻole loaʻa iā mākou ka balota, akā loaʻa iā mākou nā pū.
No laila, ʻaʻole au e manaʻoʻiʻo ʻo ia ka mea e hiki mai ana, akā ke manaʻoʻiʻo maoli nei au aia kahi manawa i ʻoi aku ai ka manaʻo o kēia poʻe i kā lākou mana o ʻAmelika ma mua o nā ʻōlelo a ʻAmelika - ke Kumukānāwai, ka Hōʻike o ke Kūʻokoʻa, nā mea āpau. o kēlā - e ʻōlelo mākou e pili ana. No laila, manaʻo wau ʻo ka poʻe o mākou e mālama nei i ka pluralism, progressivism, justice, equality, ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o kēlā mau mea āpau: ʻAʻole hiki ke hoʻololi ʻia kēia poʻe e koho nei iā Donald Trump. ʻAʻole lākou he mau hoa pili. ʻAʻole lākou ʻo kā mākou mau hoa aloha. ʻO ia e pili ana i ka holo mokuahi a me ka lanakila ʻana iā lākou a me ka hoʻokau ʻana i kahi hui kūpono a maikaʻi a i ʻole e ʻae iā lākou e lanakila. A ʻaʻole wau i manaʻoʻiʻo he ala waena ma waena o kēlā. Makemake au e noʻonoʻo aia aia, akā ʻaʻole wau ʻike.
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