Au-nat Schwartz wayenakho inkinga. Umdidiyeli wefilimu wakwa-Israel nowayeyisikhulu sezobunhloli basemoyeni wayejutshwe yiNew York Times ukuthi asebenze nomshana womlingani wakhe u-Adam Sella kanye nentatheli engumakadebona we-Times uJeffrey Gettleman ophenyweni lodlame locansi olwenziwa yi-Hamas ngo-Okthoba 7 olungase luguqule indlela umhlaba owawuqonda ngayo. Impi eqhubekayo yakwa-Israyeli eGaza Strip. Ngo-November, ukuphikiswa komhlaba wonke kwase kushubile ngokumelene nomkhankaso wezempi wakwa-Israyeli, owawusubulale izinkulungwane zezingane, abesifazane, kanye nasebekhulile. Ezinkundleni zokuxhumana, i-Times ethe kunjalo ukubukeza, Schwartz uthande i-tweet ethi u-Israyeli kwakudingeka ‘aphendule umdweshu ube yindlu yokubulala.
"Yephula noma yikuphi okujwayelekile, endleleni eya empumelelweni," kufunda okuthunyelwe. "Labo abaphambi kwethu bayizilwane ezingabantu ezingangabazi ukwephula imithetho emincane."
I-New York Times, nokho, inemithetho nezinkambiso. U-Schwartz wayengenalo ulwazi lwangaphambili lokubika. Uzakwabo obikayo u-Gettleman wamchazela izinto eziyisisekelo, kusho uSchwartz ku-podcast interview ngo-January 3, ekhiqizwa yi-Israel Channel 12 futhi iqhutshwa ngesiHebheru.
U-Gettleman, uthe, ukhathazekile ngokuthi "bathola okungenani imithombo emibili yayo yonke imininingwane esiyifake esihlokweni, imininingwane yokuhlola. Sinabo ubufakazi be-forensic? Ingabe sinabo ubufakazi obubonakalayo? Ngaphandle kokutshela umfundi wethu ukuthi ‘lokhu kwenzekile,’ singathini? Singasho ukuthi kwenzekeni kubani?"
USchwartz uthe uqale waba manqika ukuthatha lesi sabelo ngoba engafuni ukubheka izithombe zabantu abangase bashaywe nangenxa yokuthi wayengenalo ikhono lokwenza uphenyo olufana nalolu.
“Izisulu zokunukubezwa ngokocansi ngabesifazane abake bahlangabezana nokuthile, bese befika bahlale phambi kwalowo wesifazane. - ngingubani mina?" wathi. “Anginazo iziqu.”
Noma kunjalo, waqala ukusebenza noGettleman endabeni, wachaza engxoxweni ye-podcast. UGettleman, intatheli eyawina uMklomelo kaPulitzer, uyintatheli yamazwe ngamazwe, futhi lapho ethunyelwa ehhovisi, usebenza nabasizi bezindaba kanye nabazimele ezindabeni. Kulokhu, imithombo eminingana yegumbi lezindaba ejwayelene nenqubo ithe, u-Schwartz no-Sella benze ingxenye enkulu yokubika okuphansi, kuyilapho u-Gettleman egxile ekufomeni nasekubhaleni.
Umphumela wombiko, owashicilelwa ngasekupheleni kukaZibandlela, wawunesihloko esithi “'Ukuklabalasa Ngaphandle Kwamazwi': Indlela I-Hamas Elwa Ngayo Udlame Locansi Ngo-Oct. 7." Kube yibhomu futhi kwabhebhethekisa impi ka-Israel ngesikhathi lapho ngisho namanye amadlelandawonye akwa-Israel ayezwakalisa ukukhathazeka ngokubulawa kwayo ngezinga elikhulu kwezakhamuzi eGaza. Ngaphakathi egunjini lezindaba, udaba luhlangatshezwe ukunconywa ngabaholi abahleli kodwa ukungabaza okuvela kwezinye izintatheli zeTimes. I-podcast ephambili yaleli phepha ethi “The Daily” izamile ukuguqula isiqephu sibe isiqephu, kodwa ayizange ikwazi ukuhlola iqiniso, njengoba i-Intercept phambilini. kubika. (Esitatimendeni esitholwe ngemuva kokushicilelwa, umkhulumeli we-Times uthe, "Asikho isiqephu sansuku zonke esibulewe ngenxa yokuhlola ukwehluleka.")
Ukwesaba kubasebenzi be-Times abebegxeka leli phephandaba ngokusakazwa kweGaza ukuthi uSchwartz uzophenduka i-scapegoat kulokho okuwukwehluleka okujulile. Angase abe nenzondo ngabantu basePalestine, angabi nalwazi ngobuntatheli obuphenyayo, futhi azizwe enengcindezi engqubuzanayo phakathi kokuba umsekeli wempi yakwa-Israyeli kanye nentatheli ye-Times, kodwa uSchwartz akazange azithume yena noSella ukuthi babike enye yezindaba ezibaluleke kakhulu zempi. . Ubuholi obuphezulu be-New York Times benza.
U-Schwartz usho okuningi ku-an interview ne-Israel Army Radio ngoDisemba 31. "I-New York Times yathi, 'Masenze uphenyo ngodlame locansi' - kwakuyicala labo okufanele bangikholise," esho. Umethuli wakhe wamnqamula: "Kwakuyisiphakamiso se-New York Times, yonke into?"
“Ngokungangabazeki. Ngokungangabazeki. Ngokusobala. Yebo,” kusho yena. "Iphepha lasilandela ngamaphesenti angu-200 futhi lasinika isikhathi, imali, izinsiza zokungena ngokujulile ngalolu phenyo njengoba kudingeka."
Ngokushesha ngemva kokugqashuka kwempi, abanye abahleli nezintatheli bakhononda ngokuthi i-Times standards yayibavimbela ukuba babize iHamas ngokuthi “amaphekula.” Isizathu esivela emnyangweni wamazinga, owaqhutshwa iminyaka engu-14 nguPhilip Corbett, kwase kuyisikhathi eside ukuthi i-Hamas ingumqondisi we-de facto wendawo ethile, kunokuba iqembu lamaphekula elingenambuso. Ukubulala ngamabomu izakhamuzi, kwahamba ingxabano, kwakungenele ukubiza iqembu lamaphekula, njengoba lelo lebula lingasebenza ngokubanzi.
UCorbett, ngemuva kuka-Okthoba 7, wayivikela le nqubomgomo ngaphansi kwengcindezi, kusho imithombo yezindaba, kodwa wehluleka. Ngo-Okthoba 19, i-imeyili yaphuma egameni loMhleli Omkhulu uJoe Kahn ithi uCorbett ucelile ukuhlehla esikhundleni sakhe. “Ngemuva kweminyaka engu-14 njengomfuziselo wezindinganiso ze-Times, uPhil Corbett usitshele ukuthi angathanda ukuhlehla kancane avumele omunye umuntu abambe iqhaza eliphambili kulo mzamo obalulekile,” Kuchaza ubuholi bezikhathi. Imithombo emithathu yasegumbini lezindaba ithe lesi sinyathelo sihambisana nengcindezi ayengaphansi kwayo yokudambisa izindaba ezivuna u-Israel. Okunye okubhalwe ezinkundleni zokuxhumana ukuthi uSchwartz wayethanda, eqala ukubuyekezwa kwe-Times, wenza icala lokuthi, ngezinhloso ze-propaganda yakwa-Israel, i-Hamas kufanele ifaniswe ngaso sonke isikhathi ne-Islamic State. Umkhulumeli we-Times utshele i-Intercept, "Ukuqonda kwakho ngoPhil Corbett akulona iqiniso neze." Esitatimendeni esitholwe ngemuva kokushicilelwa, "UPhil wayecele ukushintsha izindima ngaphambi kokuthi uJoe Kahn aze abe umhleli omkhulu ngoJuni 2022. Futhi bekungahlangene nhlobo nengxabano mayelana nokubika."
Selokhu kwavela izambulo mayelana nomsebenzi kaSchwartz wenkundla yezokuxhumana, umugqa wakhe awuzange uvele ephepheni futhi akakaze aye emihlanganweni yokuhlela. Leli phephandaba lithe ukubuyekezwa "okuthandayo" ezinkundleni zokuxhumana kuyaqhubeka. “Lokho ‘okuthandwayo’’ kuwukwephulwa okungamukeleki kwenqubomgomo yenkampani yethu,” kusho umkhulumeli we-Times.
Ihlazo elikhulu kungaba wukubika ngokwako, inqubo evumele ukuthi kushicilelwe, kanye nomthelela oguqula impilo lo mbiko ezinkulungwaneni zabantu basePalestine abashona ngenxa yezinsolo zodlame oluhlelekile lwezocansi olwahlelwa yi-Hamas iphepha abathi balidalula.
Enye intatheli ye-Times ekhungathekile nayo eke yasebenza njengomhleli lapho ithe, “Kuningi okuzogxilwa kuzo ngokuqondakalayo, ngokufanelekile, kuqondiswe kuSchwartz kodwa lokhu ngokusobala ukwenza izinqumo ezingezinhle zokuhlela ezibukela phansi wonke omunye umsebenzi omkhulu owenziwa ngokungakhathali ephepheni lonke. - kokubili okuhlobene futhi okungahlobene nhlobo nempi - ekwazi ukubekela abafundi bethu inselele futhi ihlangabezane nezindinganiso zethu. "
"Kuningi okuzogxilwa kuzona, ngokufanelekile, kuzoqondiswa kuSchwartz kodwa lesi yisinqumo esingesihle sokuhlela."
Ingxoxo ye-podcast yeChannel 12 noSchwartz, i-The Intercept ehumushe isuka kusiHebheru, ivula iwindi lenqubo yokubika ngendaba eyimpikiswano futhi iphakamisa ukuthi umgomo we-New York Times bekuwukuqinisa ukulandisa okunqunywe kusengaphambili.
Ephendula imibuzo ye-Intercept mayelana nengxoxo ye-podcast kaSchwartz, umkhulumeli we-New York Times ushiye phansi uhlaka lwendatshana ethi i-blockbuster ubufakazi bukhombisa ukuthi i-Hamas ihlomise udlame locansi ngesimangalo esithambile sokuthi "kungenzeka kube nokusetshenziswa okuhleliwe kokuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi."
Umhleli weTimes International uPhil Pan esitatimendeni uthe uyawumela umsebenzi. “UNksz. USchwartz ubeyingxenye yohlelo oluqinile lokubika nokuhlela,” kusho yena. “Ube neqhaza elikhulu futhi asibonanga bufakazi bokuchema emsebenzini wakhe. Sihlala siqiniseka ngokunemba kokubika kwethu futhi simela uphenyo lwethimba. Kodwa njengoba sesishilo, 'ukuthanda' kwakhe okuthunyelwe ezinkundleni zokuxhumana okucasulayo nokunemibono, okwandulela umsebenzi wakhe nathi, akwamukelekile. "
Ngemuva kokushicilelwa kwale ndaba, uSchwartz, ongaphendulanga esicelweni sokuphawula, tweeted ukubonga i-Times “ngokusekela izindaba ezibalulekile esizishicilele.” Ubuye wengeza wathi, “Ukuhlaselwa kwami kwakamuva ngeke kungivimbele ukuthi ngiqhubeke nomsebenzi wami.” Ekhuluma nomsebenzi wakhe ezinkundleni zokuxhumana, u-Schwartz uthe, “Ngiyaqonda ukuthi kungani abantu abangaziyo bacasulwe “njengokungathi” engikucindezele ngo-10/7 futhi ngiyaxolisa ngalokho.” Okungenani okuthathu “okuthandile” kwakhe kube yi isihloko of umphakathi ahlahle amehlo.
Engxoxweni ye-podcast, u-Schwartz uchaza ngemizamo yakhe ebanzi yokuthola isiqiniseko ezibhedlela zakwa-Israel, izikhungo zezinkinga zokudlwengulwa, izikhungo zokululama ukuhlukumezeka, kanye nezingcingo zocingo zokuhlaselwa ngocansi kwa-Israel, kanye nokungakwazi kwakhe ukuthola isiqinisekiso esisodwa kunoma iyiphi yazo. "Utshelwe ukuthi azikho izikhalo ezenziwe ngokuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi," kusho okhulumela i-Times ngemuva kokuthi i-The Intercept ilazise isiqephu se-podcast sikaChannel 12 ephepheni. “Nokho lesi bekuyisinyathelo sokuqala socwaningo lwakhe. Ube esechaza ukwembuleka kobufakazi, ubufakazi, kanye nobufakazi bokuthi kungenzeka kube khona ukusetshenziswa okuhleliwe kokuhlukumeza ngokocansi,” kusho umkhulumeli. "Uchaza ngezinyathelo zakhe zocwaningo futhi ugcizelela izindinganiso eziqinile ze-Times zokuqinisekisa ubufakazi, kanye nemihlangano nezintatheli nabahleli ukudingida imibuzo ephenyayo futhi bacabangisise ngendaba."
Umbuzo awukaze ube ukuthi ngabe izenzo zokuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi kungenzeka yini ukuthi zenzeke ngo-Okthoba 7. Ukudlwengula akuyona into engavamile empini, futhi kwakukhona izakhamuzi ezingamakhulu amaningana ezatheleka kwa-Israyeli zisuka eGaza ngalolo suku "ngegagasi lesibili," elinomthelela futhi ukubamba iqhaza esiphithiphithini nodlame. Indaba eyinhloko iwukuthi i-New York Times yethule ubufakazi obuqinile obusekela isimangalo sayo sokuthi kunemininingwane esanda kubikwa "eqinisekisa ukuthi ukuhlaselwa kwabesifazane kwakungezona izehlakalo ezizimele kodwa ingxenye yephethini elibanzi lodlame olusekelwe ebulilini ngo-Oct. 7" - isimangalo esishiwo esihlokweni sokuthi iHamas yasebenzisa ngamabomu udlame locansi njengesikhali sempi.
Schwartz waqala wakhe sebenza ngodlame lwangomhla ziyisi-7 kuMfumfu lapho umuntu angalindela khona, ngokubiza izindawo ezikhethiwe “zeGumbi lesi-4” ezibhedlela eziyi-11 zakwa-Israel ezihlola futhi zelaphe abangaba izisulu zodlame locansi, okuhlanganisa nokudlwengulwa. “Okokuqala ngababiza bonke, bangitshela ukuthi, 'Cha, asikho isikhalazo sokuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi esitholiwe,'” ukhumbula engxoxweni ye-podcast. “Ngibe nenhlolokhono eminingi engayanga ndawo. Njengokuthi, bengingaya kuzo zonke izinhlobo zezibhedlela zabagula ngengqondo, ngihlale phambi kwabasebenzi, bonke bazinikele ngokugcwele kulo msebenzi futhi akekho oke wahlangana nesisulu sokunukubezwa ngokocansi.”
Isinyathelo esilandelayo sasiwukushayela ucingo umphathi wezingcingo zocingo ezithinta ukunukubezwa ngokobulili eningizimu yakwa-Israel, nazo ezabonakala zingenazithelo. Umphathi umtshele ukuthi bebengenayo imibiko yodlame locansi. Uchaze lolu cingo “njengengxoxo ejulile ehlanyayo” lapho ebecindezela khona amacala athile. “Ukhona obekufonele? Kukhona okuzwile?" wakhumbula ebuza. “Kungenzeka kanjani ukuthi awuzange?”
Ngenkathi uSchwartz eqala eyakhe imizamo yokuthola ubufakazi bokuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi, kwaqala ukuvela izinsolo eziqondile zokudlwengula. Umuntu ohlonzwe ezingxoxweni zabezindaba ezingaziwa njengosizo lwezimo eziphuthumayo ophikweni lwezokwelapha lwase-Israel Air Force 669 uthe ubone ubufakazi bokuthi amantombazane amabili asebasha Kibbutz Nahal Oz babedlwengulwe babulawelwa ekamelweni labo. Lo mlisa wenze ezinye izinkulumo ezicasulayo, nokho, ezawungabaza umbiko wakhe. Uthe omunye umhlengi “wakhipha kudoti” ingane egwazwe izikhathi eziningi. Ubuye wathi ubone “imisho yesi-Arabhu eyayibhalwe ezintubeni zokungena ezindlini … negazi labantu ababehlala ezindlini.” Ayikho imilayezo enjalo ekhona, futhi indaba yengane emgqonyeni kadoti ibikhona debunked. Inkinga enkulu ukuthi awekho amantombazane amabili e-kibbutz alingana nencazelo yomthombo. Ezingxoxweni ezizayo, ushintshe indawo waba yi-Kibbutz Be'eri. Kodwa azikho izisulu ezibulewe lapho ezihambisana nencazelo, njengoMondoweiss kubika.
Ngemva kokubona lezi zingxoxo, u-Schwartz waqala ukufonela abantu base-Kibbutz Be'eri nakwamanye ama-kibbudzim ayeqondiswe ngo-Okthoba 7 emzamweni wokulandelela indaba. “Lutho. Kwakungekho lutho,” kusho yena. "Akekho owabona noma wezwa lutho." Ube esefika kusizo oluphuthumayo lwe-unit 669 owadlulisela kuSchwartz udaba olufanayo aluxoxela ezinye iziteshi zabezindaba, athi lwamqinisekisa ukuthi kunodlame locansi oluhlelekile. “Ngithi, 'Kulungile, kwenzekile, umuntu oyedwa wakubona kwenzeka eBe'eri, ngakho angeke kube umuntu oyedwa, ngoba amantombazane amabili. Kungosisi. Isekamelweni. Kukhona okuhlelekile ngakho, kukhona engikuzwayo ukuthi akwenzeki nje,” kuphetha uSchwartz ku-podcast.
USchwartz uthe wabe eseqala uchungechunge lwezingxoxo ezibanzi nezikhulu zakwa-Israel ezivela eZaka, inhlangano ezimele yokuhlenga i-Ultra-Orthodox eye yasungulwa. ibhalwe phansi ukuba nobufakazi obungaphathwanga kahle futhi busakaze obuningi izindaba ezingamanga mayelana nezehlakalo zangomhla ziyisi-7 kuMfumfu, okuhlanganisa nezinsolo ezingagunyaziwe zezisebenzi ze-Hamas zokunquma izingane kanye nokusika umbungu emzimbeni wowesifazane okhulelwe. Abasebenzi bayo ababona ososayensi abaqeqeshiwe noma ochwepheshe bezindawo zobugebengu. “Lapho singena endlini, sisebenzisa umcabango wethu,” wathi U-Yossi Landau, isikhulu esiphezulu seZaka, echaza umsebenzi waleli qembu ezindaweni zokuhlasela zangomhla ziyisi-7 kuMfumfu. "Izidumbu bezisitshela ukuthi kwenzekeni, yilokho okwenzekile." U-Landau uvela embikweni we-Times, nakuba kungakhulunywa ngaye kuhlelwe kahle umlando wokusabalalisa izindaba ezivusa amadlingozi zonya okwathi kamuva kwatholakala ukuthi zingamanga. USchwartz uthe ezingxoxweni zakhe zokuqala, amalungu eZaka awazange aveze izinsolo eziqondile zokudlwengula, kodwa achaze isimo sezidumbu athe asibonile. “Bangitshela ukuthi, ‘Yebo, sabona abantu besifazane benqunu,’ noma ‘Sibone owesifazane engagqokile. Bobabili banqunu ngaphandle kwezingubo zangaphansi, futhi baboshwe ngothayi beziphu. Futhi ngezinye izikhathi hhayi othayi beziphu, ngezinye izikhathi intambo noma intambo ye-hoodie. "
U-Schwartz uqhubekile nokubheka ubufakazi ezindaweni ezehlukene zokuhlasela futhi akatholanga ofakazi abaqinisekisa izindaba zokudlwengulwa. “Ngakho-ke ngaphenya kakhulu e-kibbutzim, futhi ngaphandle kwalobu bufakazi [bobezimo eziphuthumayo zamasosha akwa-Israyeli] futhi ngaphezu kwalokho, lapha nalaphaya, abantu baseZaka - izindaba, njengokuthi, azivelanga lapho,” kusho yena.
Njengoba eqhubeka nokusebenza amafoni nezikhulu zokuhlenga, uSchwartz wabe esebona izingxoxo lapho iziteshi zezindaba zomhlaba wonke zaqala ukusakazwa noShari Mendes, umdwebi wamapulani waseMelika osebenza ophikweni lorabi lwe-Israel Defence Forces. UMendes, owajutshwa emakhazeni ukuyolungisa izidumbu ezizongcwatshwa ngemuva kwezigameko zokuhlaselwa kwangomhla ziyisi-7 kuMfumfu, uthe ubone ubufakazi obuningi bokuhlukumeza ngokocansi.
"Sibone ubufakazi bokudlwengulwa," kusho uMendes kwelinye interview. “Izinqe zaziphukile, futhi cishe kuthatha isikhathi eside ukuphuka inyonga … futhi lokhu kwakuphakathi kogogo kuze kube yizingane ezincane. Lena akuyona nje into esiyibone ku-inthanethi, lezi zidumbu sizibone ngamehlo ethu.” UMendes ubengumuntu otholakala yonke indawo kwa-Israel uhulumeni futhi Staff abezindaba izindaba ngodlame locansi ngo-Okthoba 7, naphezu kweqiniso lokuthi unalo akukho zokwelapha noma forensic izincwadi zokunquma ngokusemthethweni ukudlwengula. Ubuye wakhuluma ngolunye udlame ngo-Okthoba 7, etshela i-Daily Mail ngo-Okthoba, “Ingane yanqunywa kowesifazane owayezithwele yanqunywa ikhanda ngemuva kwalokho unina wanqunywa ikhanda.” Akekho owesifazane okhulelwe owashona ngalolo suku, ngokusho kombiko uhlu olusemthethweni lwakwa-Israyeli yalabo ababulawa kulokhu kuhlasela, kanye neqoqo elizimele locwaningo October 7 Fact Check wathi Indaba kaMendes yayingamanga.
“Ngangilokhu ngizibuza ukuthi uma ngizwa ngokudlwengulwa ngibone ukudlwengulwa bese ngicabanga ngakho, ngabe lokho kungenxa yokuthi ngiholela kulokho yini.”
Ngemuva kokuthi uSchwartz ebone izingxoxo noMendes, waphinda waqiniseka ukuthi ukulandisa okuhleliwe kokudlwengula kwakuyiqiniso. "Ngifana - wow, kuyini lokhu?" wakhumbula. "Futhi kimi kuzwakala sengathi isiqala ukusondela ebuningini, noma ungazi ukuthi yiziphi izinombolo okufanele uzifake kuzo okwamanje."
Ngesikhathi esifanayo, uSchwartz uthe ngezinye izikhathi wayezizwa engqubuzana, ezibuza ukuthi wayeqiniseka yini ngeqiniso lendaba eyinkimbinkimbi ngoba efuna ubufakazi obusekela isimangalo. “Ngangilokhu ngizibuza ukuthi uma ngizwa ngokudlwengulwa ngibone ukudlwengulwa bese ngicabanga ngakho, ngabe lokho kungenxa yokuthi ngiholela kulokho,” kusho yena. Wakubekela eceleni lokho kungabaza. Ngesikhathi uSchwartz exoxa noMendes, indaba yereservist ye-IDF yayisigcwele umhlaba wonke futhi yaqedwa ngokuphelele: Ayikho ingane eyanqunywa kumama futhi yanqunywa ikhanda. Nokho u-Schwartz kanye ne-New York Times bazoqhubeka nokuthembela ebufakazini bukaMendes, kanye nobabanye ofakazi abanamarekhodi okwenza izimangalo ezingathembekile futhi bengenazo iziqinisekiso ze-forensic. Akukho okushiwo ngemibuzo mayelana nokwethembeka kukaMendes.
HOw Schwartz wafika kuleso simo esingajwayelekile ngesikhathi esibalulekile empini akucaci kahle. Ngaphambi kokujoyina i-Times njengesizini edlule, u-Sella ubeyintatheli ezimele ekhuluma ngezindaba ezisukela “kokudla, ukuthwebula izithombe, namasiko kuya emizamweni yokuthula, ezomnotho kanye nomsebenzi,” ngokusho kwe-LinkedIn yakhe. Iphrofayili. U-Sella ungowokuqala ukusebenzisana noGettleman, eyanyatheliswa ngo-October 14, yayiwukubheka ukuhlukumezeka okwatholwa abafundi baseyunivesithi eseningizimu yakwa-Israel. KuSchwartz, umugqa wakhe wokuqala wafika ngoNovemba 14.
"Izikhulu zamaphoyisa akwa-Israel zabelane ngobufakazi obengeziwe ngoLwesibili ngonya olwenziwa ngesikhathi sokuhlasela kuka-Okthoba 7 okuholwa yi-Hamas, bethi baqoqe ubufakazi kofakazi abangaphezu kwenkulungwane nabasindile mayelana nodlame locansi nokunye ukuhlukumeza," U-Schwartz ubike. Indaba iqhubekile yacaphuna isikhulu samaphoyisa akwa-Israel, u-Kobi Shabtai, echaza inqwaba yobufakazi bokubulala okunyantisayo kanye nokuhlukumeza ngokocansi ngo-Okthoba 7.
"Lolu uphenyo oluningi kakhulu uMbuso wakwa-Israyeli owake walwazi," kusho uShabtai esihlokweni sikaSchwartz, ethembisa ubufakazi obanele maduze nje.
Ngenkathi i-Times kamuva ikhiqiza uphenyo lwayo oluqondile oluthi “Ukumemeza Ngaphandle Kwamagama”, nokho, uSchwartz nabalingani bakhe babike ukuthi, ngokuphambene nesimangalo sikaShabtai, ubufakazi bomthetho bodlame locansi babungekho. Ngaphandle kokuvuma izitatimende zesikhathi esidlule zikaShabtai kuyi-Times, leli phephandaba labika ukuthi imingcwabo esheshayo ngokuvumelana nesiko lamaJuda yayisho ukuthi ubufakazi abuzange bugcinwe. Ochwepheshe batshele i-Times ukuthi ubudlova obungokobulili ezimpini ngokuvamile bushiya “ubufakazi obulinganiselwe bomthetho.”
Ku-podcast, uSchwartz uthe isinyathelo sakhe esilandelayo bekuwukuya esikhungweni esisha sokwelashwa okuphelele esisungulwe ukubhekana nokuhlukumezeka kwezisulu zangomhla ziyisi-7 ku-Okthoba, ikakhulukazi labo ababekezelela izibhicongo emkhosini womculo waseNova. Kuvulwe isonto ngemuva kokuhlaselwa, isikhungo waqala ukwamukela amakhulu abasindile lapho bebengathola khona ukwelulekwa, benze i-yoga, futhi bathole enye imithi yokwelapha, kanye nokutshopa, ukuphulukiswa komsindo, nokwelashwa kwe-reflexology. Bayibiza ngokuthi i-Merhav Marpe, noma i-Healing Space.
Ekuvakasheni kaningi kuMerhav Marpe, uSchwartz uphinde washo engxoxweni ye-podcast ukuthi akatholanga bufakazi obuqondile bokudlwengulwa noma udlame locansi. Uzwakalise ukuphatheka kabi ngabelaphi nabeluleki kulesi sikhungo, wathi benza “itulo lokuthula.” “Wonke umuntu, ngisho nalabo abezwa lezi zinhlobo zezinto kubantu, bazizwa bezinikele kakhulu ezigulini zabo, noma ngisho nakubantu abasiza iziguli zabo, bangavezi izinto,” kusho yena.
Ekugcineni, u-Schwartz uqhamuke nezitatimende ezingenangqondo nezijwayelekile ezivela kubelaphi mayelana nendlela abantu ababhekana ngayo nokuhlukumezeka, okuhlanganisa udlame locansi nokudlwengula. Uthe labo abangase babe yizisulu bangase babe namahloni okukhuluma, bazizwe benecala labasindile, noma basashaqekile. "Mhlawumbe futhi ngenxa yokuthi umphakathi wakwa-Israel usadla ngoludala, bekunokuthambekela kokuthula ngalolu daba lokunukubezwa ngokocansi," kuqagela uSchwartz. "Ngaphezu kwalokhu, kungenzeka ukuthi kukhona okungeziwe kwezenkolo-kazwelonke, ukuthi lokhu kwenziwa yiphekula, ngumuntu waseHamas," engeza. "Bekunezingqimba eziningi ezenze ukuthi bangakhulumi.”
Ngokwesihloko esishicilelwe i-Times, “Abelaphi ababili bathi bebesebenza nowesifazane owadlwengulwa yiqembu lezigelekeqe e-rave futhi wayengekho esimweni sokukhuluma nabaphenyi noma izintatheli.”
USchwartz uthe ubegxile kwi-kibbudzim ngoba ekuqaleni wathola ukuthi bekungeke kwenzeke ukuthi kube nokuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi edilini lomculo iNova. “Benginokungabaza ukuthi kwenzeke endaweni yephathi, ngoba wonke umuntu engikhulume naye phakathi kwabasindile wangitshela ngokujaha, umjaho, njengokusuka kwenye indawo ngezindawo,” ekhumbula. “Babengaba kanjani [nesikhathi] sokungcolisana nowesifazane, njengokuthi - akunakwenzeka. Kuphakathi kokuthi uyacasha, noma wena - noma uyafa. Futhi isesidlangalaleni, iNova ... indawo evulekile enjalo. "
Su-chwartz wabukela izingxoxo inikezwe abezindaba bamazwe ngamazwe nguRaz Cohen, owayehambele umkhosi weNova. Umakadebona wamasosha akhethekile akwa-Israel, uCohen wenze izingxoxo eziningi mayelana nokudlwengulwa athi wakubona. Ezinsukwini ezimbalwa ngemva kokuhlaselwa, watshela Izindaba ze-PBS ukuthi usebone ukudlwengulwa kaningi. “Amaphekula, abantu baseGaza, badlwengula amantombazane. Futhi emva kokuba sebebadlwengulile, babebabulala, bababulala ngemimese, noma okuphambene, babulala - futhi ngemuva kokudlwengula, - bakwenza lokho, "kusho yena. Ngesikhathi ebonakala ku-CNN ngoJanuwari 4, yena kuchazwe bebona ukudlwengulwa okukodwa futhi bathi abahlaseli "kwakungabafana abahlanu - abantu abahlanu abavela eGaza, abafana abajwayelekile, hhayi amasosha, hhayi iNukhba," ebhekise kumbutho we-Hamas elite commando. “Kwakungabantu abavamile baseGaza ababegqoke izingubo ezivamile.”
Engxoxweni kaCohen noSchwartz we-Times:
Uthe wabe esebona amadoda amahlanu, egqoke izingubo ezingajwayelekile, wonke ephethe imibese eyodwa ephethe isando ehudula owesifazane phansi. Wayesemncane, enqunu futhi eklabalasa.
'Bonke bayabuthana kuye,' kusho uMnu. Cohen. 'Esukuma. Baqala ukumdlwengula. Ngabona amadoda emi emzungeza. Omunye uyangena kuye. Uyamemeza. Ngisalikhumbula izwi lakhe, eklabalasa engasho lutho.”
“Khona-ke omunye wabo uphakamisa ummese,” esho, “bavele bambulala.”
Kwakuyile nhlolokhono eyanikeza i-Times isihloko sayo esithi: “‘Imemeza Ngaphandle Kwamazwi’: Indlela I-Hamas Elwa Ngayo Ubudlova Bocansi Ngo-Oct. 7.” Ukuthi uCohen uchaze abahlaseli abasolwa ngokuthi abawona amalungu eHamas kubukela phansi isihloko, kodwa akushintshile. I-Times ayizange iziphendule izinsolo zikaCohen zangaphambili zokuthi wazibonela ngawakhe ukudlwengulwa kwabantu abaningi.
USchwartz uthe engxoxweni ye-podcast ukuthi, njengoba i-Times iphikelele okungenani emithonjeni emibili, ucele uCohen ukuthi amnikeze imininingwane yokuxhumana yabanye abantu ayecashe nabo ehlathini, ukuze aqinisekise indaba yakhe yokudlwengulwa. Wakhumbula, “URaz uyacasha. Ehlathini eduze kwakhe kulele umngani wakhe uShoam. Bafika kulelihlathi. Kukhona abanye abantu ababili ngakolunye uhlangothi ababheke kolunye uhlangothi, futhi omunye, wesihlanu, umuntu. Abantu abahlanu ehlathini elilodwa. URaz kuphela obona zonke izinto azibonayo, wonke umuntu ubheke kwelinye icala. "
Naphezu kokusho ku-podcast ukuthi uCohen kuphela owabona umcimbi kanti abanye bebebheke ezinhlangothini ezahlukene, endabeni ye-Times uShoam Gueta uvezwa njengofakazi oqinisekisayo kulokhu kudlwengulwa: “Uthe ubone okungenani amadoda amane ephuma evenini. futhi ahlasele owesifazane, owagcina 'ephakathi kwemilenze yawo.' Wathi ‘babekhuluma, begigitheka futhi bememeza,’ futhi omunye wabo wamgwaza ngommese ephindelela, ‘bemhlahlela ngokoqobo.’” UGueta akazange akhulume ngokubona ukudlwengulwa kwakhe endaweni ethile. interview wenze ne-NBC News ngo-Okthoba 8, usuku ngemuva kokuhlaselwa, kodwa wachaza ukubona owesifazane ebulawa ngommese. "Sibone amaphekula ebulala abantu, eshisa izimoto, ememeza yonke indawo," kusho uGueta etshela i-NBC. “Uma usho okuthile, uma ubanga umsindo, uzobulawa.” UGueta wabe esethunyelwa eGaza ne-IDF futhi usethumele eziningi videos ku-TikTok yakhe ephenya ezindlini zasePalestine. UCohen noGueta abazange baphendule izicelo zokuphawula.
Isizinda esizimele October 7 Hlola Amaqiniso, Mondoweiss, kanye nezintatheli u-Ali Abunimah we I-Electronic Intifada futhi UMax Blumenthal we-The Grayzone baye baphawula ukungqubuzana nokungqubuzana okuningi ezindabeni ezishiwo embikweni we-Times, kuhlanganise nokulandisa kukaCohen, owayethe ekuqaleni “wakhetha ukungabuki, kodwa wayebezwa behleka njalo.”
Ngaphansi kwengcindezi ngaphakathi ukuze kuvikelwe ubuqiniso bendaba, i-Times yabela kabusha u-Gettleman, uSchwartz, no-Sella ukuthi babike kabusha ngempumelelo indaba, okuholele esihlokweni esishicilelwe ngoJanuwari 29. Cohen wala ukukhuluma labo, babika: “Ebuzwa kule nyanga ukuthi kungani engazange akhulume ngokudlwengulwa ekuqaleni, uMnu. Cohen wacaphuna ukucindezeleka kokuhlangenwe nakho kwakhe, wayesethi emlayezweni wakhe ngaleso sikhathi wayengaqapheli ukuthi wayengomunye wofakazi abambalwa abasaphila. Unqabile ukuphinde axoxisane naye, wathi usebenzela ukuthi alulame ekuhlukumezekeni abhekane nakho.”
Ngaphezu kobufakazi bukaCohen, uSchwartz uthe ku-Channel 12 podcast uphinde wabuka i-video yokuhlonywa imibuzo kwesiboshwa sasePalestine esithathwe yi-IDF athi uchaze “amantombazane” ahudulelwa abahlaseli basePalestine ehlathini eduze nomkhosi wakwaNova. Uphinde wathinteka, esho, yisiqeshana senhlolokhono ayibukile ngoNovemba esithangamini sabezindaba esasihlelwe yizikhulu zakwa-Israel, okuyisona esibe yisona sihloko sakhe sokuqala se-Times.
Umgcinimabhuku ogama lakhe linguSapir uchaze isigameko esinyantisayo sokudlwengulwa nokucwiywa kwezitho zomzimba, kanti uSchwartz uthe waqiniseka ngokugcwele ukuthi kunohlelo oluhlelekile lodlame lwezocansi lweHamas. "Ubufakazi bakhe buyahlanya, futhi bukhulisa izinwele, futhi bukhulu, futhi buyiqaba," kusho uSchwartz. “Futhi akukhona nje ukudlwengula—ukudlwengulwa, nokunqunywa kwesitho, futhi … futhi ngiyabona ukuthi yindaba enkulu kunalokho ebengikucabanga, [enezindawo] eziningi, bese siqala ukuvela isithombe, Kwenzekani lapha?”
Umbiko we-Times uthi baxoxisane no-Sapir amahora amabili endaweni yokudlela eningizimu ye-Israel, wachaza ngokubona ukudlwengulwa kwabantu abaningi, okuhlanganisa nesigameko lapho umhlaseli edlwengula owesifazane njengoba omunye emsika ibele ngomsiki webhokisi.
Esithangamini nabezindaba ngoNovemba, iziphathimandla zakwa-Israel zathi ziqoqa futhi zihlola izinto ezizoqinisekisa ama-akhawunti anemininingwane eqondile ka-Sapir. "Amaphoyisa athi asaqoqa ubufakazi (DNA njll) kwabadlwenguliwe ngaphezu kofakazi bokuzibonela ukuze akhe icala eliqinile," Kusho umlobeli obekhuluma ngomcimbi wabezindaba. Isimo esinjalo singaveza inani elibalulekile lobufakazi obuphathekayo, kodwa izikhulu zakwa-Israel, kuze kube manje, azikwazanga ukukunikeza. “Nginobufakazi obubambekayo, kodwa ekugcineni, kuwumsebenzi wami ukuthola ubufakazi obusekela indaba yakhe futhi ngithole ukuthi izisulu zingobani,” wathi USuperintendent Adi Edri, isikhulu sakwa-Israel esihola uphenyo ngodlame locansi ngo-Okthoba 7, isonto ngemuva kokuba umbiko we-Times ungene ku-inthanethi. "Okwamanje, anginayo imizimba ethile."
Ku-Channel 12 podcast, uSchwartz uyabuzwa ukuthi ngabe bukhona yini ubufakazi bomuntu wesifazane abasinda ekudlwengulweni ngo-Okthoba 7. “Angikwazi ngempela ukukhuluma ngalokhu, kodwa iningi labesifazane abaye banukubezwa ngokocansi ngo-Okthoba 7 badutshulwa ngokushesha ngemva kwalokho, futhi yilapho [lapho] inani elikhulu [likhona],” ephendula. “Iningi liyizidumbu. Abanye besifazane bakwazile ukuphunyuka basinda.” Wengeze wathi, “Ngiyazi ukuthi kunesici esibaluleke kakhulu sokuhlukanisa uma kukhulunywa ngokuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi. Ngakho izikhathi eziningi abakhumbuli. Abakhumbuli konke. Bakhumbula izingcezu zezenzakalo, futhi abakwazi ukuchaza njalo ukuthi baphelela kanjani endleleni kanye [nendlela] abatakulwa ngayo.”
Ekuqaleni kukaZibandlela, izikhulu zakwa-Israel zaqala umkhankaso onzima womphakathi, zisola umphakathi wamazwe omhlaba kanye nabaholi besifazane ikakhulukazi ngokuma bathule lapho bebhekene nodlame locansi olusabalele, lokuhlasela kweHamas ngo-Okthoba 7. Umzamo we-PR waba yethulwa eNhlanganweni Yezizwe ngoDisemba 4, ngomcimbi ophethwe yinxusa lakwa-Israel kanye nesikhulu sangaphambili se-Meta u-Sheryl Sandberg. Izinhlangano ezilwela amalungelo abantu besifazane ebezihloswe ngabasekeli baka-Israel zibanjwe zibambe ongezansi, njengoba amacala odlame locansi ebengakasabalali.
USandberg ucashunwe ehlasela izinhlangano ezilwela amalungelo abesifazane esihlokweni sango-December 4 New York Times, enesihloko esithi “Esikwaziyo Ngobudlova Bobulili Phakathi Nokuhlaselwa Kwa-Israyeli Ka-Okthoba 7” futhi okushicilelwe kwaqondana nokwethulwa komkhankaso we-PR e-UN Lesi sihloko, esabikwa no-Gettleman, Schwartz, noSella, sithembele ezimangalweni ezenziwe Izikhulu zakwa-Israel futhi zavuma ukuthi i-Times ibingakakwazi ukuqinisa lezi zinsolo. Ukulungiswa okwembulayo kwabuye kwanezelwa endabeni: “Inguqulo yangaphambili yalesi sihloko ilubeke kabi uhlobo lobufakazi obuqoqwe amaphoyisa akwa-Israel ekuphenyeni izinsolo zodlame locansi ezenziwa ngo-Oct. 7 ekuhlaseleni kwe-Hamas ngokumelene no-Israyeli. Amaphoyisa athembele kakhulu ebufakazini bofakazi, hhayi ekuhlolweni kwezidumbu noma ebufakazini bomthetho.”
U-Israyeli wathembisa ukuthi wayenobufakazi obungajwayelekile bofakazi bokuzibonela. "Abaphenyi baqoqe 'amashumi ezinkulungwane' zobufakazi bodlame locansi olwenziwa yi-Hamas ngo-Okthoba 7, ngokusho kwamaphoyisa akwa-Israel, okuhlanganisa nendawo yomcimbi womculo owahlaselwa," kusho uSchwartz, uGettleman, noStella ngoDisemba. 4. Lobo bufakazi abuzange bube khona.
“Nami ngingum-Israel, kodwa futhi ngisebenzela i-New York Times. Ngakho-ke ngaso sonke isikhathi ngifana kule ndawo phakathi kwesando ne-anvil. "
UNdunankulu wakwa-Israel uBenjamin Netanyahu kugcizelelwe endikimbeni enkulumweni yango-December 5 eTel Aviv. “Ngithi ezinhlanganweni ezilwela amalungelo abantu besifazane, ezinhlanganweni ezilwela amalungelo abantu, nizwile ngokudlwengulwa kwabesifazane bakwa-Israel, isihluku esinyantisayo, ukucwiywa kwezitho zobulili? Ukuphi wena?" Ngalo lolo suku, uMongameli uJoe Biden wethula inkulumo lapho athula khona wathi, “Umhlaba awukwazi ukuvele ubheke eceleni — kwenzakalani. Kukithi sonke - uhulumeni, izinhlangano zamazwe ngamazwe, izinhlangano zomphakathi, izakhamuzi ngazinye - ukugxeka udlame locansi lwamaphekula e-Hamas ngaphandle kokulinganisa - ngaphandle kokulingana, ngaphandle kokukhetha."
Uphenyo lwezinyanga ezimbili lwe-Times belusahlelwa futhi lubuyekezwa, kusho uSchwartz ku-podcast, lapho eqala ukuzizwa ekhathazekile ngesikhathi. Ngakho ngathi, 'Sigeja umfutho. Mhlawumbe i-UN ayikhulumi ngokunukubezwa ngokobulili ngenxa yokuthi akukho [imithombo yezindaba] ezophuma nesimemezelo ngalokho okwenzeka lapho.’” Uma indaba ye-Times ingashicilelwa maduzane, wathi, “kungase kungabe kusathakazelisa.” USchwartz uthe ukubambezeleka kwachazwa kuye ngaphakathi njengokuthi, "Asifuni ukudabukisa abantu ngaphambi kukaKhisimusi."
Ubuye wathi imithombo yamaphoyisa ase-Israel ibimcindezela ukuthi asheshe ashicilele. Uthe bambuza, “Yini, i-New York Times ayikholelwa ukuthi kunokuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi lapha?” USchwartz wazizwa sengathi uphakathi.
“Nami ngikule ndawo, ngiphinde ngingowakwa-Israel, kodwa futhi ngisebenzela iNew York Times,” kusho yena. “Ngakho-ke ngaso sonke isikhathi nginjengakule ndawo phakathi kwesando nedlozi.”
TngoDisemba 28 isihloko esithi “Ukuklabalasa Ngaphandle Kwamazwi” saqala ngendaba kaGal Abdush, echazwa yi-Times ‘njengowesifazane ogqoke ingubo emnyama. I-video yomzimba wakhe oshile ibonakale imkhombisa engenalutho. "Izikhulu zamaphoyisa zakwa-Israel zithi zikholelwa ukuthi uNksz Abdush wadlwengulwa," kubika i Times. Lesi sihloko sabhala u-Abdush “uphawu lwezinto ezesabekayo ezafikela abesifazane namantombazane akwa-Israyeli phakathi nokuhlasela kwango-October 7.” Umbiko we-Times ukhuluma ngemiyalezo ye-WhatsApp ka-Abdush nomyeni wakhe eya emndenini wabo, kodwa ayisho ukuthi amanye amalungu omndeni bakholelwa ukuthi imilayezo ebalulekile yenza izimangalo zezikhulu zakwa-Israel zingabonakali. Njengoba uMondoweiss abika kamuva, u-Abdush wabhalela umndeni ngo-6:51 ekuseni, ethi usenkingeni emngceleni. Ngo-7:00, umyeni wakhe wathumela umyalezo ethi ubulewe. Umndeni wakhe uthe isibhamu siphuma kubhomu.
“Akunangqondo,”wathi Udadewabo ka-Abdush, ukuthi ngesikhashana nje “bamdlwengula, bambulala, futhi bamshisa na?” Ekhuluma ngezinsolo zokudlwengula, umlamu wakhe wathi: "Abezindaba bayisungule."
Esinye isihlobo siphakamise ukuthi umndeni ucindezelwe, ngamanga, ukuthi ukhulume nezintatheli. Udadewabo ka-Abdush ubhale ku-Instagram ukuthi izintatheli zeTimes “zibalule ukuthi zifuna ukubhala umbiko ukuze zikhumbule uGal, yikho nje. Ukube besazi ukuthi isihloko sizobe sikhuluma ngokudlwengula nokubulala, besingeke sikuvume lokho.” Odabeni lwayo olulandelayo, i-Times ifuna ukudicilela phansi ukuphawula kwakhe kokuqala, icaphuna udadewabo ka-Abdush ethi "ubedidekile ngokwenzekile" futhi ubezama 'ukuvikela udadewethu.'
Owesifazane owathwebula u-Abdush ngo-Okthoba 7 utshele isiza sakwa-Israel YNet ukuthi uSchwartz noSella babemcindezele ukuba anikeze iphepha ukufinyelela ezithombeni namavidiyo akhe ngenjongo yokunikeza inkulumo-ze yakwa-Israyeli. “Bangishayela ucingo bephindelela futhi bangichazela ukuthi ibaluleke kangakanani ku-hasbara yakwa-Israel,” yena ukhunjulwe, kusetshenziswa igama le-public diplomacy, empeleni elibhekisela emizamweni yenkulumo-ze yakwa-Israel eqondiswe ezithamelini zamazwe ngamazwe.
Ngaso sonke isikhathi, lapho izintatheli ze-New York Times zibhekana nezithiyo eziqinisekisa amathiphu, zaphendukela ezikhulwini zakwa-Israel ezingaziwa noma kofakazi asebevele kuxoxiswane nabo kaningi emaphephandabeni. Ezinyangeni zihambile emsebenzini wazo, izintatheli zizithole zikulapho ziqale khona, zithembele kakhulu ezwini lezikhulu zakwa-Israel, amasosha kanye nabasebenzi baseZaka ukuthi baqinisekise ukuthi zingaphezu kuka-30 izidumbu zabesifazane namantombazane ezitholwe zinezimpawu zokuthi ukuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi. Ku-podcast yeChannel 12, uSchwartz uthe ingxenye yokugcina esele ayidingayo endabeni inombolo eqinile evela kubaphathi bakwa-Israel mayelana nanoma ibaphi abangaba abasinde odlameni locansi. "Sine futhi singakwazi ukuma ngemuva kwaleyo nombolo," esho etshelwa uMnyango Wezenhlalakahle Nezenhlalakahle. Ayikho imininingwane enikeziwe. Indaba ye-Times ekugcineni yabika ukuthi “okungenani abesifazane abathathu nendoda eyodwa bahlukunyezwa ngokobulili base besinda.”
Lapho indaba ekugcineni ishicilelwe ngoDisemba 28 Schwartz wachaza uzamcolo imizwelo nokusabela inthanethi kanye Israyeli. "Okokuqala, ephepheni, siyinikeze indawo evelele kakhulu, okusho ukuthi, evumelana nakho konke ukwesaba kwami - akukho ukukhombisa ukuzethemba okukhulu kunokubekwa ekhasini lokuqala," kusho yena. “Kwa-Israyeli, ukusabela kuyamangalisa. Lapha ngicabanga ukuthi ngivalwe, ngibona ukuthi bonke abezindaba baphatha lesi sihloko futhi basithatha njengento [a] yokubonga ngokufaka inombolo kuso. Siyabonga ngokuthi bekunamacala amaningi, ukuthi bekuyiphethini. Siyabonga ngokuyinikeza isihloko esiphakamisa ukuthi mhlawumbe kunomqondo wokuhlela ngemuva kwayo, ukuthi lesi akusona isenzo esizimele somuntu othile ozenzela yena ngokwakhe.”
Abasebenzi be-Times abakhulume ne-The Intercept ngesimo sokungaziwa ngenxa yokwesaba ukuphindiselwa kochwepheshe bachaze isihloko esithi “Ukumemeza Ngaphandle Kwamagama” njengomkhiqizo wamaphutha afanayo aholele ephuzwini lomhleli oyinhlekelele kanye nokuhoxiswa kwe-podcast kaRukmini Callimachi ethi “Caliphate” nokuphrinta. uchungechunge lweqembu le-Islamic State. U-Kahn, umhleli omkhulu wamanje, wayekhona eyaziwa kabanzi njengomgqugquzeli nomvikeli weCallimachi. Ukubika, okunqunywe yi-Times ku- ukubuyekeza kwangaphakathi ayizange ihlolwe ngokwanele ngabahleli abaphezulu futhi yasilela ezindinganisweni zephepha zokuqinisekisa ukunemba, ubekade engowamanqamu woMklomelo wePulitzer ka-2019. Lokho kuhlonishwa, kanye neminye imiklomelo ehlonishwayo, kwaba ihoxisiwe ngemuva kwehlazo.
UMargaret Sullivan, umhleli wokugcina womphakathi weNew York Times ukuthi asebenze isikhathi esigcwele ngaphambi kokuba iphepha lilahle lesi sikhundla ngo-2017, kusho lokho uthemba ukuthi uphenyo olunjalo luzokwethulwa endabeni ethi “Ukukhala Ngaphandle Kwamagama”. “Ngezinye izikhathi ngiye ngincokole ngokuthi 'ngolunye usuku oluhle ukuba ngingabi umhleli womphakathi we-New York Times' kodwa inhlangano ingase *isebenzise* eyodwa manje ukuphenya egameni labafundi,” kubhala yena.
Kweminye imihlangano yezindaba, uSchwartz uthe ku-Channel 12 podcast, abahleli abanolwazi lwaseMiddle East babekhona ukuze banikeze imibuzo ephenyayo. “Sibe nomhlangano wamasonto onke, futhi uveza isimo somsebenzi wakho kuphrojekthi yakho,” kusho yena. “Futhi ababhali nabahleli be-Times abakhathazekile ngezindaba zaseMpumalanga Ephakathi abavela kuzo zonke izinhlobo zezindawo emhlabeni, bakubuza imibuzo ekubekela inselelo, futhi kuhle kakhulu ukuthi bakwenze lokho, ngoba wena ngokwakho, ngaso sonke isikhathi, uthanda— ungazikholi okwesikhashana.”
Leyo mibuzo bekunzima ukuyiphendula, uthe: “Omunye wemibuzo obuzwayo - futhi yiwona onzima kakhulu ongakwazanga ukuwuphendula - uma lokhu sekwenzeke ezindaweni eziningi kangaka, kungenzeka kanjani ukuthi abukho ubufakazi obusemthethweni. ? Kungenzeka kanjani ukuthi awekho amaphepha? Kungenzeka kanjani ukuthi awekho amarekhodi? Umbiko? Ispredishithi se-Excel? Ungitshela ngoShari [Mendes]? Lowo ngumuntu ozibonele ngamehlo akhe, futhi manje ukhuluma nawe — awukho umbiko [obhaliwe] ozokwenza lokho akushoyo kube negunya?”
Usokhaya ungenelele. “Futhi uye kuleso sigaba kubaphathi abasemthethweni bakwa-Israyeli, futhi wacela ukuthi bakunikeze - okuthile, noma yini. Futhi baphendule kanjani?"
“'Akukho lutho,'” kusho uSchwartz watshelwa. “'Abukho ubufakazi obuqoqwe endaweni yesigameko.'”
Kodwa ngobubanzi, uthe, abahleli babewusekela ngokugcwele umsebenzi. “Kwakungekho ukungabaza kubo nakanye,” kusho yena. “Akusho namanje ukuthi benginayo [indaba], ngoba bengingenawo ‘umthombo wesibili’ wezinto eziningi.”
Umkhulumeli we-Times ukhombe le ngxenye yengxoxo njengobufakazi benqubo eqinile yephepha: “Sibuyekeze umbhalo obanzi futhi kuyacaca ukuthi uphikelela ekukhipheni izingcaphuno ngaphandle komongo. Engxenyeni yengxoxo obhekisela kuyo, u-Anat uchaza ukukhuthazwa abahleli ukuthi baqinisekise ubufakazi nemithombo ngaphambi kokuthi sishicilele uphenyo. Kamuva, uxoxa ngemihlangano evamile nabahleli lapho bebebuza khona imibuzo 'enzima' kanye 'nenselele', kanye nesikhathi esisithathile ukwenza isigaba sesibili nesesithathu sokuthola usizo. Konke lokhu kuyingxenye yohlelo lokubika oluqinile futhi esisaqhubeka nokusala ngemuva.”
Engxoxweni yakhe ne-podcast yeChannel 12, uSchwartz uthe waqala ukusebenza no-Gettleman ngemuva nje kuka-Okthoba 7. “Umsebenzi wami kwakuwukumsiza. Wayenazo zonke izinhlobo zemicabango ngezinto, ngezihloko ayefuna ukuzenza,” ekhumbula. “Ngosuku lokuqala, kwase kunezinto ezintathu ohlwini [lwakhe], ngase ngabona ukuthi endaweni yesithathu ‘kwakuwubudlova bobulili.’” USchwartz wathi ngemva kokuhlasela kwango-October 7, akuzange kugxilwe kakhulu. mayelana nokuhlukunyezwa ngokocansi, kodwa ngesikhathi eqala ukusebenzela u-Gettleman, kwaqala ukusabalala amahlebezi okuthi izenzo ezinjalo zazenzekile, eziningi zazo zisekelwe ekuphawuleni kwabasebenzi baseZaka nezikhulu namasosha e-IDF.
Ngemva kokushicilelwa kwesihloko, u-Gettleman wamenywa ukuba akhulume esigungwini sodlame locansi eSikoleni Samazwe Ngamazwe Nezindaba Zomphakathi sase-Columbia University. Imizamo yakhe yanconywa yithimba kanye nomphathi walo, uSandberg, owayeyisikhulu esiphezulu kuFacebook. Esikhundleni sokuphindaphinda kabili ukubika okwasiza ekuwineleni i-New York Times indondo ye-Polk Award, u-Gettleman usichithile isidingo sokuba izintatheli zinikeze “ubufakazi.”
"Esikutholile - angifuni nokusebenzisa igama elithi 'ubufakazi,' ngoba ubufakazi bucishe bufane negama elisemthethweni eliphakamisa ukuthi uzama ukufakazela izinsolo noma ukufakazela icala enkantolo," kusho u-Gettleman etshela uSandberg. “Akuyona indima yami leyo. Sonke sinezindima zethu. Futhi indima yami ukubhala, ukwethula ulwazi, ukunikeza abantu izwi. Futhi sithole ulwazi kulo lonke uchungechunge lodlame, kanjalo nodlame locansi.”
UGettleman uthe umsebenzi wakhe wukuthutha abantu. “Kunzima ngempela ukuthola lolu lwazi bese ukulolongwa,” esho. “Lowo wumsebenzi wethu njengezintatheli: ukuthola ulwazi nokwabelana ngodaba ngendlela eyenza abantu bakhathalele. Hhayi nje ukwazisa, kodwa ukuhambisa abantu. Yilokho ebengikwenza isikhathi eside.”
Intatheli ye-One Times yathi ozakwabo bayazibuza ukuthi indlela elinganiselayo ingase ibukeke kanjani: “Ngilindele ukubona ukuthi iphepha lizobika ngokujulile yini, lisebenzisa uhlobo olufanayo lwemithombo nezindlela, kuZizwe Ezihlangene. umbiko eyayibhala izinto ezesabekayo ezenziwa kwabesifazane basePalestine.”
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