U-Albert: Yimaphi amanye amathonya ezepolitiki abalulekile kanye nezigameko ekungeneni kwakho kwezepolitiki kwasekuqaleni? Ucabanga ukuthi kungani uhambe ngezindlela oye ngazo, uma uqhathaniswa nabanye abantu abaningi obaziyo, abangani nezingane zakini, njll., abangazange bayilandele leyo ndlela?

Peters: Umama wami wayeyisishoshovu samalungelo abantu kwasekuqaleni futhi ekhulumela zonke izinhlobo zezindaba zobulungiswa bezenhlalo. Ngiyibuke izabalaza ifuna ukuba nezwi emhlabeni wendoda. Akuzange kufike kalula kuye, futhi wakhokha inani elikhulu ngokuphuma endimeni evamile yomfazi/umama, kodwa akazange aphele amandla. Wanginika umqondo oqinile wokuthi okulungile nokungalungile, nokuthi kufanele uthathe uhlangothi. 

Ubaba wami wayeyi-CIA emsebenzini. Sasilwa njalo kusukela ngineminyaka engaba ngu-8 futhi ngibuka izithombe zeMpi YaseVietnam kuthelevishini. Ngangingaqondi ukuthi kungani yena - umuntu omdala onamandla - engenzi lutho ukukuvimba. Lapho ngimbuza ngakho, waphikisana nami ngepolitiki yempi - nakuba ngangimncane kakhulu futhi kusobala ukuthi ngifuna ukusekelwa ngokomzwelo hhayi impikiswano yobuhlakani. Nokho, wayehlale engihilela engxoxweni engathi sína. Ngendlela engangikuzonda ngayo, mhlawumbe ngathatha kukho ukuthi kungenzeka ukuthi imibono yami yayibucayi nokuthi kufanele ngiyithuthukise futhi ngibe ngcono ekuqondeni izindaba kanye nokunqoba izimpikiswano. Ngicabanga ukuthi ngaba yinxele ngoba umama wangifundisa ukuvula amehlo ami ukuze ngibone izwe elingizungezile, futhi ubaba wangifundisa ukuba umuntu ocabangayo. 

Ucabanga ukuthi ufunde nini okuningi kwalokho osekukholelwayo manje, iningi libe yilokhu oyikho manje? 

Ngeke ngikhombe noma yisiphi isikhathi esisodwa ngoba ngisathuthuka. Ngafunda iSocial Thought and Political Economy e-UMASS/Amherst lapho kwakukhona khona inqwaba yamaMarx emnyangweni wezomnotho, futhi isikhulu sami semfundo ehlukene sangivumela ukuba ngifunde kabanzi nge-radical social theory. Eminyakeni engu-20, ngenza zonke izinhlobo zemisebenzi yezombusazwe - ne-Teamsters for a Democratic Union e-Detroit, isikhungo sezinkinga zokudlwengulwa e-Atlanta, inhlangano yobumbano yaseMelika Ephakathi, inhlangano emelene ne-nuke, njll. Wonke ayengifundisa - efundisa. Mina ukuthi ukuhlela kuyasebenza kodwa futhi nokuthi ukuhlela udaba olulodwa kunemikhawulo. 

Ukusebenza neqembu leSouth End Press iminyaka engu-13, kusukela ngokushesha ngemva kwekolishi, kwangibonisa ukuhlaziya okuhle kakhulu kwezombusazwe, amalungu ayiqoqo azinikele, nababhali abamangalisayo. Umsebenzi wakho, uMichael, kanye noRobin Hahnel, ube nomthelela omkhulu, hhayi nje imibhalo yakho, kodwa imodeli yokuphikelela kwakho. Ukuhlela e-Boston nabahleli abazinikele, abanekhono abavela enhlobonhlobo yamaqembu aphansi kuhlale kungiphonsela inselelo yokwakha amabhuloho phakathi kokuhlaziya, isu, kanye nomsebenzi wansuku zonke. Ikakhulukazi, i-City Life/Vida Urbana nemodeli yayo enamandla yokuhlela kanye nendlela yokulwela izinguquko ngendlela edlulisela phambili ukugxeka okujulile kobunxiwankulu kanye nengcindezelo yesistimu kube nomthelela omkhulu kimi. Ukuzihlanganisa nabantu abasiza ukungigcina ngithembekile futhi abangisiza ngiqhubeke ngithuthuka kubalulekile - bonke abangani bami namaqabane kwa-Z abafunda izinto zami futhi baxoxe nami ngemibono, bonke abanye ababhali nababhali be-Z bezinye imidiya abangigcina nginolwazi. kanye nokuqonda ukusebenza kombuso kuzo zonke izimvume zawo, izishoshovu engikanye nazo eBoston, kanye nomndeni wami.

Ingxenye enkulu yempilo yakho kube enye imidiya. Sitshele ukuthi uqale kanjani futhi kungani usebenze isikhathi eside kangaka?

Ngaqala kweminye imithombo yezindaba ngesikhathi ngithola umsebenzi eSouth End Press ngo-1983 ngineminyaka engu-22 ubudala. Leyo kwakuyiminyaka yokukhula kakhulu kusukela kimi, njengoba ngaba nelungelo lokusebenza eduze namanye amalungu eqoqo kanye nababhali abaningi abamangalisayo. I-South End Press yazizwa njengendawo ephilayo kakhulu ebonisa ukunyakaza futhi iqhube ukunyakaza. Izincwadi esizishicilele zazivame ukuba nokuhlaziya okuphelele okubheka inkinga kusetshenziswa ilensi yohlanga/yesigaba/yobulili; sishicilele izincwadi ezedlula ukugxeka isimo esikhona futhi zahlanganisa isu nombono; izincwadi zethu zaziqondisa ngokuqondile ukunyakaza kwalesi sikhathi futhi zaziswe yilezo mnyakazo. Kwakujabulisa kakhulu ukuba yingxenye yalokho. 

Bengisebhodini labahleli be I-Radical America; Ngihlelile Amadola kanye neSense okwesikhashana; Ngisebenze e Izindaba Zomphakathi Wezitabane; Okwamanje ngiyahlela Umenzeli Wokushintsha; futhi ngibe ngumbhali nomhleli ozimele iminyaka eminingi. Ngihlala nginjalo ngoba ulwazi nokuhlaziya kubalulekile. Amagagasi omoya ambozwe imilayezo esidlula ekuhambiseni futhi eqinisa isimo esikhona. Ukugcina indawo evulekile ukuze kuvele eminye imibono kubaluleke kakhulu.

 

Uma ubheka kabanzi eminye imithombo yezindaba - ukuzibandakanya kwakho kuqala kanye nalokho okwaziyo ngakho - kube yini impumelelo enkulu, ucabanga ukuthi? Iziphi izindawo ocabanga ukuthi izinto bezingaba ngcono kuzo?

Impumelelo enkulu, ngicabanga ukuthi, ukuthi umyalezo wethu usufinyeleleke. Ngakho abantu abaningi basebenzisa ukuhlaziywa "okusha kwesokunxele". Isibonelo, kuvamile ukuthola izinhlangano ezisemazingeni aphansi zisebenzisa ukuhlaziywa kohlanga/isigaba/ubulili emsebenzini wazo. Akuvelanga ndawo. Kuvele ezinqubeni zokwenza lokho kuhlaziya kutholakale - ngokuvamile ngokusebenzisa enye imidiya - futhi ngokuvamile ngezinsiza ezimbalwa kakhulu futhi kuqhudelana nemidiya evamile elawulwa yidlanzana lezinkampani zamazwe ngamazwe futhi ekhuthaza uhla oluncane "lwemicabango ecatshangwayo." Ukuba khona kweminye imithombo yezindaba kwasho ukuthi sandise ngempumelelo lolo hlu lomcabango. Kwadingeka ubheke ukuze uthole izincwadi zethu nezindatshana zethu, kodwa zazitholakala. 

Ngaphezu kwalokho, ngenxa yeminye imithombo yezindaba, abantu bayaqonda ukuthi i-US imperialism isebenza kanjani, ukuthi ukubusa kwezinkampani kusebenza kanjani, ukuthi ukucwasa ngokwebala, ukucwasa ngobulili, kanye ne-homophobia kulimaza kanjani. Lapho kuphakama imvume entsha yengcindezelo - enye impi eMpumalanga Ephakathi, inkinga entsha yezomnotho ebikezela ukuthi inothisa abambalwa futhi iphuce abaningi, kukhona amathani ezinto zokwakha. isivele ikhona ukukusiza uqonde ukuthi isilo sisebenza kanjani. Nalapha futhi, lokhu akuvelanga ndawo, kodwa kunalokho kusukela ekunyakazeni okunamandla kwabantu abajwayelekile bedlulisa imiyalezo yabo (ikakhulukazi) ngeminye imithombo yezindaba kanye nababhali abazinikele ababevame ukuzifaka engozini encane (emisebenzini yabo, yithi) ngokuphakamisa amazwi abo ngezinye izindlela. iziteshi.

Into ebesingayenza kangcono eminyakeni edlule wukuthola ukuthi singama kanjani ngokubambisana kunokuncintisana ngezinsiza ezishodayo. Besingachitha amandla amancane sizama ukukholisa abantu ukuthi izinto zimbi kangakanani futhi sichithe isikhathi esiningi sisiza ukunyakaza ukwenza amasu nokuhlanganisa izinguquko ezijulile. Bekufanele sithole indlela yokudlulela ngale “kokushumayela ekwayeni.” Inguquko ebalulekile kweminye imithombo yezindaba edingeka ngokushesha wukufinyeleleka; sidinga ukufinyelela abantu abafunda ezingeni eliphansi lokufunda nokubhala. Lolu hlobo lwabantu lukhulu kakhulu. Abantu abadala abayizigidi ezingama-90 e-US (ngokusho kwe- cwaningo ethunywe uMnyango Wezemfundo wase-US) cishe abakwazi ukufunda okuningi okulotshwe kweminye imithombo yezindaba. Ngakho-ke, asigcini nje ngokushumayela ekwayeni, kodwa ukubhala kwethu kuqondiswe kubantu abaneziqu zasekolishi. Kungani kunjalo? 

Unesikhathi eside ubambe iqhaza, manje, ngokuhlela umphakathi. Ungasitshela kancane mayelana nomuzwa wakho?

Ukuhlela (real ukuhlela - hhayi nje izenzo ezingahleliwe ngokumelene nabantu ababi) kubonakala kimi njengomsebenzi obaluleke kakhulu esingawenza njengamanje. Ngaleso sizathu, kokubili kuyingxenye enika amandla kakhulu yokuphila kwami ​​futhi kungidumaza kakhulu. Ngingathini? Sekungamashumi eminyaka ngisebenza kuzo zonke izinhlobo zezinhlangano, izinkinga, nokunyakaza (kwamazwe ngamazwe nasekhaya) - esimweni sesikole, umphakathi, nezinyunyana - futhi nakuba izinto ezinhle, eziguqulayo zenzeke kulezi zikhala, kuningi futhi ukungasebenzi kahle ukuthi kuyadabukisa ngempela. 

Kanye nokuhlaziya, isu, kanye nombono, kwesokunxele sidinga ukuthola izindlela eziningi zokufaka isandla ekwelapheni. Ngisho nokuhlaziya okuhle kakhulu okulwa nokucwasa akukufikisi kude kakhulu uma ungenayo indlela yokuthi abantu abasemhlanganweni baphole ezinhlungwini ezibangelwa ukucwasa noma ukuphatha kahle izikhathi lapho kuqhuma khona (futhi kuyaqhuma - impela ngokuvamile!). Kuyafana nokucwasa ngobulili, ukucwasa ngokwezigaba, ukuzonda abantu abathandana nabobulili obufanayo, kanye nakho konke okunye ukucindezelwa. Futhi lokhu kuyinqubo eqhubekayo; Angiqiniseki ukuthi kuke kube yisahluko ongasibeka ngemuva kwakho. Ngokufanelekile, ukuphulukiswa kuhlanganiswe emsebenzini futhi akuhlukanisiwe kuwo. Lapho sisemzabalazweni nabanye abantu, lapho sonke silwela ukuphila kwethu ndawonye, ​​siyakhula ekuthandaneni futhi lokho okuhlangenwe nakho kobumbano kusekela kakhulu. Asikwazi ukwahlulela; siyafudumala omunye komunye; sinezindlela ezibambekayo zokweqa ukucwasa kwethu futhi sihlangabezane nobuntu bomunye nomunye. 

At City Life/Vida Urbana lapho kade ngasebenza khona isikhathi eside, sibambana ngezindlela eziningi. Yebo, sivimba ukukhishwa komunye nomunye, sikhombisa ukwesabisa abatshalizimali ezindalini, futhi sihlela imibuthano emikhulu yezinqubomgomo zezindlu nje. Kodwa emihlanganweni, ngiye ngabona ukungenelela kokuzibulala kwesikhashana okuphumelelayo okwaletha owesifazane oyedwa owayekhala, owayephelelwe ithemba ukuba amukele lonke iqembu. Ngibone ingane ye-autistic yelinye lamalungu iqhakaza kahle kumongo womphakathi oyenze yazizwa ibalulekile, yaziswa, futhi yalalelwa. Mina ngokwami ​​ngathweswa icala (ngezindlela ezingcono kakhulu) ngokwenza uhlobo lokuziphatha lomuntu omhlophe ongenalwazi. Isisulu sokungazi kwami ​​sangithukuthelela kakhulu. Wabe eselwamukela uxolo lwami sabuyela emsebenzini. Akazange angithumele ohambweni lwecala olukhubazekile; akazange akulahle konke ukuphila kwami ​​noma angihlazise enhliziyweni yami. Uvele waba muhle kakhulu futhi wacasuka, wangethemba ngokwanele ukuba ngikubonise, wabe eseqhubekela phambili. Kimina, kwaba impumuzo ukuba ngiziphendulele futhi ngiphathwe njengeqabane. Ngicabanga ukuthi kuye kwaba impumuzo ukuthi akwazi ukukhombisa ubuyena futhi azi ukuthi ukuhlangana kwethu ndawonye kuzosisiza sibambezeleke ukungqubuzana. 

Abantu abamhlophe (amadoda, abantu abaqondile, bonke abantu) cishe bayohlala njalo (noma okungenani isikhathi eside) behileleka ekuziphatheni okucasulayo okuvela ezingeni elithile lokungabi nalwazi. Kungani kufanele kusimangaze lokho? Kodwa-ke, zingaki izinhlangano ezilindele lokho, zivumele, futhi zihlanganyele nakho, ngesikhathi esifanayo ukunyathela icala elikhubazayo nehlazo? 

 

Uma ubheka kabanzi ukuhlela umphakathi - okwakho kanye nalokho okwaziyo ngakho - ucabanga ukuthi yiziphi izimpumelelo ezinkulu? Iziphi izindawo ocabanga ukuthi izinto bezihamba kuzo kangcono kakhulu? Yiziphi izifundo ocabanga ukuthi singazithola ngokusebenzisekayo? 

Impumelelo enkulu ukuthi sinezinhlangano ezimangalisayo, ezihlukene emazingeni aphansi ezisebenza ngezinkinga ezahlukahlukene, ezihlanganisa amakhulu ezinkulungwane zabantu ukwenza ushintsho lwangempela.

Enye impumelelo ukuthi abanye abantu nezinhlangano zizama ukwakha ubudlelwano kuwo wonke “ama-silo” ethu. Isibonelo salokhu yi-Radical Organising Conference (ROC), engizibandakanye nayo iminyaka eyi-12 noma ngaphezulu. Umbono wukuthi siyazi ukuthi abahleli abaningi e-Boston baqinile - okusho ukuthi bafisa uguquko lwesistimu olubhekana “nezimpande” zezinkinga esibhekene nazo. Siyavuma ukuthi umsebenzi wethu omningi wansuku zonke ungaphokophela kuphela ekuguquleni izinguquko, kodwa sifuna ukuhlangana ukuze sicabange ukuthi umsebenzi wethu wezinguquko ungafinyelela kanjani ngempumelelo ohlelweni. Senze izingqungquthela ezingaba yishumi nambili kanye nezinkundla zokucobelelana ngolwazi eziningi unyaka wonke emzamweni wokuqwashisa ngesidingo senhlangano ebumbene kanye nengqalasizinda ethile eshiywe engasiza ukusekela isizinda esibuthiwe. Izingqungquthela zethu bezigcwele phama futhi umdlandla uhlezi uphezulu, nokho kukhona iphutha elibulalayo. Ekupheleni kwengqungquthela ngayinye, sichitha ihora “ezinyathelweni ezilandelayo.” Siqoqa inqwaba yemibono – kusukela “kusukela kokuthi “ake siye kolayini bokukhethwa somunye nomunye” kuye kokuthi “ake sibe nama-potlucks amaningi” kuya kokuthi “masiqhubeke sizifundisa” kuya kokuthi “asiqale inhlangano entsha.” Sibhala imibono phansi ephepheni likabhusha. Kwesinye isikhathi siyavota ukuze sibone ukuthi ukhona yini umbono ophethe okuthile. Konke kubusa ngentando yeningi futhi kuwela phansi. Izindaba ezinhle ukuthi: Siyazi ukuthi i-Radical Organising Conference ibheke kokuthile okubalulekile. Izindaba ezimbi ukuthi: asikabi nawo amandla noma ukuthenga ngaphakathi (noma mhlawumbe ukwehluleka kwemizwa?) ukuze sidlulele ngale kwalokhu kuqhuma kwe-serial.

Lokhu ukwehluleka okukhulu kokuhlela umphakathi: asikacabangi ukuthi singabumbana kanjani ngendlela esivumela ukuthi sibhekane nezinhlelo eziqhubeka zibangela izinto ezesabekayo esiqhubeka sibhekana nazo ngendlela yodaba olulodwa. Sigxile kakhulu emikhankasweni. Sivame kakhulu ukuhlanganisa *izenzo* ezinkulu ezisinikeza amandla esikhashana kanye nomzuzwana noma emibili yokubonakala kodwa ezingezi ndawo ngoba aziyona ingxenye yesu elikhulu. Sesingene shí ezimbonini ezingenzi nzuzo, eziqhutshwa ngabaxhasi bezimali abakhulu futhi (okuxakayo) ngokuvamile abamabhizinisi abafuna ukusigcina sigxile ezinguqukweni zesikhathi esifushane - ngokuyisisekelo benza umsebenzi wokuchibiyela inetha yokuphepha yomphakathi eya ngokuya ihlakazeka. Ngakho-ke, ngendlela esontekile, kwesinye isikhathi siyizigqila zonxiwankulu (kanye namanye amandla acindezelayo) ngoba sithuntutha imiphetho ebukhali, ngakho yonke into isebenza kakhulu.

Mhlawumbe ngokugxeka kakhulu, sehlulekile ukwenza wonke umphakathi wethu uhlele ukuba ube kwesokunxele esikhulu, esihlukahlukene esinengqalasizinda esebenzayo enikeza abantu ukunyakaza "ikhaya" elizobavumela ukuthi baqhubeke nokukhula nokuvela odabeni olulodwa olubalethe inhlangano. .

 

Ngaphezu kwalokho, kokuhlangenwe nakho kwakho, yini ekhungathekisa kakhulu ngomqondo hhayi nje kuphela imizwa yomuntu siqu yokuchitha, ukungabi nangqondo, njll, kodwa futhi njengezici ezivimbela inqubekela phambili? Futhi, yini engcono kakhulu engenziwa ngakho?

Into ekhungathekisa kakhulu ngokwenza ukuhlela ukuthi sibonakala singakwazi ukubhekana nengxenye yokwakha ukunyakaza komsebenzi wethu. Lokhu kubonakala njengokuphakama kokungabi nangqondo (futhi ukuba khona kanye nalokhu kungabi nangqondo kuyinselele kakhulu ngokomuntu siqu). Nokho mhlawumbe akuyona into engenangqondo kangako. Mhlawumbe okwenzekayo ngempela ukuthi abantu banezinhloso ezehlukene. Abekho empeleni kukho ukuzuza amandla angempela; bazimisele ukunciphisa ukulimala konxiwankulu noma ukuzuza izinzuzo zesikhashana. Lena imigomo emihle, kodwa akuzona izinhloso zami zokugcina. Labo bethu abafuna ukuzuza uguquko lwesistimu kufanele bathole ukuthi kungani abantu abaningi bezimisele ukuvuma izinguquko zesikhashana. Mhlawumbe, njengoba wena, Michael, uye waphikisana, bakholelwa ukuthi akukho okunye, lapho kungenasidingo sokuzibandakanya emzabalazweni wesikhathi eside, futhi ungase usebenzise amandla akho ukuthuthukisa izimpilo zabantu esikhathini esifushane. Liningi iqiniso kuleyo mpikiswano, ngakho-ke kufanele ngabe siyazama ukulungisa lokho.

Abantu futhi bayakugwema umzabalazo wesikhathi eside ngenxa yezici zamasiko ezingavamile e-United States. Ingcindezi yenhlalo/yamasiko yokuzibona njengabantu ngabanye kunokuba sibe amalungu omphakathi iphazamisa kakhulu ikhono lethu lokucabanga ukuthi amandla aphansi angabukeka kanjani. Kukhona nezinye izici, njengomlando wokuxabana nokuhlukana, okuphakamisa ukuthi noma yimuphi umzamo wokuhlanganisa empeleni uzokwenza izinto zihlakazeke kakhulu kunalokho obekuyikho. Futhi kukhona nezinye izinto, futhi, ezenza kube nzima ukuqhubekela phambili ezinye zazo engikhulume ngazo "Ekhuluma Emuva kuChomsky. "

 

Ubambe iqhaza ekuthuthukisweni kwemibono ehambisana nalokho okubizwa ngokuthi umphakathi obambe iqhaza, ikakhulukazi ubulili, kodwa futhi ngokubanzi. Kungani? Okungukuthi, kungani unikeza isikhathi ezintweni ezinjalo - umbono? Yini othemba ukuthi izovela kuyo?

Isizathu sokuthi ngisebenze ekuthuthukiseni imibono yomphakathi obambe iqhaza yingoba ngifuna ukukwazi ukuhlela hhayi nje lokho okungalungile kodwa mayelana nalokho okungaba kuhle kakhulu. Ngingathanda ukukholisa abantu ukuthi basijoyine ngoba kunophawu lokuthi impilo ingaba ngcono, futhi ukuze wenze lokho, udinga ukuba nezinga elithile lombono ocacile. Noma kunjalo, kunzima kakhulu ukubamba umsebenzi wombono kanye nomsebenzi wokuhlela wansuku zonke. Anginaso isiqiniseko sokuthi kukhona noyedwa umuntu engihlela naye owaziyo ukuthi ngibhale ngombono womndeni. Uma ufuna uphawu lokuthi kungakanani ukwakhiwa kwebhuloho okufanele sikwenze, ngicabanga ukuthi lokho kungasebenza njengento eyodwa.

 

Umbuzo ohlobene - wakamuva, impela iminyaka manje kodwa ngendlela ekhulayo, sibona ukuhlangana okuxakile kokuguquguqukayo mayelana nezindaba zobulili. Ngakolunye uhlangothi, abesifazane bathuthuke kakhulu ezweni elifana ne-US mayelana nokufinyelela, amalungelo, isimo, njll. Ingxenye yabafundi ezikoleni zezokwelapha ngabesifazane, njengenkomba eyodwa kuphela. Ngakolunye uhlangothi, kukhona okubonakala kuwukuvela kabusha okunamandla kwezimpawu eziningi ezibonakalayo zokucwasa ngokobulili emphakathini - ukuzithoba kwabesifazane - kohlobo lwamasiko. Ngakho-ke, izicathulo ezithende eziphakeme ziphinde zibe yonke indawo - nakuba sekuyisikhathi eside zibhekwa njengesibonakaliso futhi zibambe iqhaza ekutholweni kwabesifazane. Ngakho-ke, kumabonakude, cishe wonke umuntu wesifazane uyawagqoka, ngezinye izikhathi aphakeme ngendlela exakayo - ngisho nanjengabameli besifunda, abameli, odokotela, abanamandla, abaqinile, njll. Kothile olingana nami, kubonakala kungqubuzana ngendlela emangalisayo. Ngingathanda ukuthi wenzeni ngakho?

Angitholi ukuthi ubani angagqoka izithende eziphakeme, kodwa nginabangane abaningi besifazane namadodakazi amabili alwela abesifazane abawagqoka ngezikhathi ezithile. Mhlawumbe bahlushwa ukwazi okungamanga, noma mhlawumbe sinokunambitha okuhlukile kwemfashini. Ngivame ukucabanga ukuthi eyakamuva. (Ngokomlando, izithende eziphakeme bezigqokwa abantu abahlukahlukene, kuhlanganise namadoda asezingeni eliphezulu.) Ngolunye usuku, lapho sinomphakathi wethu ongcono, noma ubani ofuna ukugqoka izithende futhi uma izithende eziphakeme zithumela umlayezo wobulili ovusa inkanuko, kuyoba umdlalo wokudlala futhi onikwe amandla okungekho muntu ophoqelelwe ukuba angene noma ahlukunyezwe.

Kodwa umbuzo wakho uphakamisa iphuzu elibalulekile. Umbutho wabesifazane usize abesifazane ukuthi bazuze amalungelo (ngakho-ke manje sinabameli besifazane abaningi; abesifazane bavunyelwe ukulawula inzalo; njll.), kodwa yehluleka ukubhekana nokungahloniphi kwabesifazane, okusadlangile. Isiko liyabazonda abantu besifazane. Kungani? Yini amadoda esaba kangaka? Iyini izimpande zale nzondo futhi ithatha kanjani isimo esikhethekile esikhathini samanje somlando? Leso isihloko senye inhlolokhono. Okwamanje, kwanele ukusho ukuthi nakuba imigomo yethu yesikhathi esifushane ingase ibe ngamalungelo andayo (kanye nokufinyelela kumalungelo akhona), imigomo yethu yesikhathi eside kufanele ibe eyokukhulula - ukuze kungabikho muntu obambelele emcabangweni othile oqinile wobulili noma ubulili. futhi ukuze lonke uhlelo lokunikeza amalungelo asekelwe ekutheni ungena kahle kangakanani ezinkambisweni ezinqunyiwe luhlakazeke. 

 

Uyilungu le-IOPS - Inhlangano Yamazwe Ngamazwe Yenhlangano Ebamba Iqhaza. Futhi, ngani? Yini othemba ukuthi izovela kulokho?

Ngiyilungu le-IOPS ngoba ngicabanga ukuthi kubalulekile ngathi ukuthi sisebenze emazingeni amaningi ngasikhathi sinye - sihlele emiphakathini yethu, sihlaziye izehlakalo njengoba zenzeka ngezinga elikhulu, sihlele ukuthi singafeza kanjani isikhathi esifushane nesikhathi eside. imigomo, kanye nokuthuthukisa umbono - umbono - walapho sifuna ukuya khona.

 

Ucabanga ukuthi yiziphi izinto ezithembisa kakhulu ozibona eduze kwakho, ezikunikeza izinga elithile lethemba ngekusasa?

Nginamadodakazi amabili futhi ngiyazi abantu abasha abaningi abaphakathi nalo msebenzi. Ngiyabona indlela abaye bazuza ngayo ezizukulwaneni ezidlule. Ngibabona behlanganisa izifundo, bakhela phezu komsebenzi abantu asebekhulile abawenzile, futhi bahlanganisa / behlanza konke ngendlela ezizwa inethemba. Bona kanye nontanga yabo baqala impilo yabo yezepolitiki beqonda ukuthi ingcindezelo yesistimu isebenza kanjani. Njengoba lokhu njengendawo yabo yokuqala, mhlawumbe bona kanye nontanga yabo bangathola isu lokubhekana nakho. Kuleli zwe, ngibona ithemba kulesi sizukulwane esisha sezishoshovu. Ngagqugquzelwa yi-occupy movement. Ngibona izinhlaka zokuhlela ezingabamba iqhaza futhi zibe abaholi bombutho omusha omkhulu - njengezinhlangano zabasebenzi abahola kancane, Eqonde eDolobheni, inhlangano elwela amalungelo abokufika, inhlangano emelene neziboshwa, nezinye izinyunyana. Kusuka phesheya, ngithola ithemba ngenguquko yaseBolivarian, ukunyakaza okukhulu eSpain naseGreece, intwasahlobo yama-Arab, ubuqhawe obungakholeki babantu basePalestine, imicimbi efana neWorld Social Forum, nezinye eziningi. Kunezibonakaliso eziningi ezibonisa ukuthi thina bantu sinezingqondo nezinhliziyo ezinhle, ukuthi singadala futhi sibambisane futhi senze ngokubambisana komunye nomunye, ukuthi omunye umhlaba ungenzeka. 

 

Yiziphi ozibona njengezithiyo noma izinkinga ezesabekayo izishoshovu okufanele zibhekane nazo futhi zibhekane nazo, ukuze zenze inqubekelaphambili - futhi uma unemibono yokuthi kanjani?

Isithiyo esesabisa kakhulu ukuhluleka kwethu ukukholelwa ukuthi singanqoba. Kufanele ngandlela thize sibhekane nalesi sithiyo. Ngemuva kwalokho kufanele senze isu lokuwina futhi sizimisele ngokuwina. Singaqala ngokuthi ehlezi ekamelweni ndawonye ukuze enze icebo, njengoba u-Luke Elliott aphikisana kakhulu. Uma sisaba ukuwina ngoba asazi ukuthi ukuwina kuzobukeka kanjani noma sisaba ukuthi ukuzama ukuwina kuzoba njani, kumele sibhekane nalolo valo. Endleleni, kufanele sinakekelane futhi sakhe ukunyakaza okuhlanganisa ukuphulukiswa nothando.

Uyasazi leso sitika sebhampa esisifundisa ukuthi sizilolonge izenzo zomusa ezingahleliwe? Ngiyasizonda leso siqubulo. Futhi kuba sengathi ukunyakaza kwethu kwezinguquko kwezenhlalo kulingisa kulowo mbono. Kunjengokungathi sibona ukuthi imvula iyasithela, futhi esikhundleni sokwakha indawo yokukhosela yangempela, sanquma ukugijima nezambulela futhi sikhoselise abantu ngokungahleliwe isikhashana. Kuyisenzo somusa! Yini ongayithandi? Kwesinye isikhathi, sishintsha isenzo somusa esingahleliwe ngesenzo sokucasuka esingahleliwe. Ngiyacela. Ayikho iresiphi engcono yokutubeka. Kodwa nokho ukuhlela kwethu kuvame ukuzwakala kanjalo - okungahleliwe; futhi izaba esizitshela zona ukuthi okungenani kukhona esikwenzayo. Okungahleliwe ngeke kusiyise ndawo. Izenzo zokucophelela, zamabomu, zamasu ezisihlanganisayo ukuze sithole amandla - zizosiyisa lapho sidinga ukuya khona. 

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