Kubva Chivabvu 8-12, 30th Constitutional Convention yeCanadian Labor Congress yakaitwa muMontréal. Reporting ye Vanhu Vanoshanda uye The Real News Network, Max akapinda gungano uye akataura nevashandi vakati wandei, varongi, nevakuru vemubatanidzwa nezvemamiriro ebato revashandi muCanada.
MuChikamu chechipiri chezvikamu zvedu zviviri zvekutumira kubva kuCLC, tinotaura na: Nora Loreto, munyori, mupepeti, murongi, podcaster, co-host of Sandy naNora Vanotaura Zvematongerwo enyika naSandy Hudson, uye munyori wemabhuku akawanda, kusanganisira Spin Vanachiremba: Maitiro eMedia uye Vezvematongerwo enyika Vakasaziva sei iyo COVID-19 Pandemic, uye Dzorera Kurwa: Kuronga Feminism yeDigital Age; Meg Davis, brand director, illustrator, uye aimbove nhengo yekomiti yekuronga paPoint Blank Creative ad agency, uko vashandi vakabatana neUFCW Local 1518; Larry Rousseau, parizvino Mutevedzeri weMutungamiriri weCanada Labor Congress; naNicholas Marcus Thompson, mumiriri weTrinidadian-Canadian kururamisira kwevanhu, mutungamiri wemubatanidzwa, uye Executive Director weBlack Class Action Secretariat.
Zvimwe zvinongedzo/ruzivo pazasi…
- Canada Vashandi Congress Website, Facebook peji, uye Twitter peji
- YaNora Website uye Twitter peji
- Nora Loreto, Fernwood Vaparidzi, Spin Vanachiremba: Maitiro eMedia uye Vezvematongerwo enyika Vakasaziva sei iyo COVID-19 Pandemic
- Nora Loreto, Fernwood Vaparidzi, Dzorera Kurwa: Kuronga Feminism yeDigital Age
- Meg Website
- ZvaLarry CLC peji peji uye Twitter peji
- Nicholas Website uye Twitter peji
- Black Kirasi Chiito Website, Facebook peji, uye Twitter peji
- Maximillian Alvarez, The Real News Network, "Hongu-Canada Ine Anti-Black Racism, Zvakare"
- Justin Crann, nzira, "Mukati mePoint Blank Yekuedza Kubatana"
- Gabriela Calugay-Casuga, rabble.ca, "Iyo Black Class Action Secretariat Inoda Vese Vashandisi Kuti Vasimuke"
- Gabriela Calugay-Casuga, rabble.ca, "'Team Unite' yakasarudzwa zvakare kutungamira Canadian Labor Congress"
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Chinotevera chinyorwa chamhanyiswa uye chinogona kunge chine zvikanganiso. Shanduro yekuongorora ichaitwa kuti iwanikwe nekukurumidza sezvinobvira pano.
Nora Loreto:
Ini ndinonzi Nora Loreto. Ini ndiri munyori uye muratidziri anogara muguta guru reFrance reQuebec, iro rinonziwo Quebec.
Maximillian Alvarez:
[Anoseka] Zvakanaka, Nora, zvinotonhorera kugara pasi uye kutaura newe. Ini ndiri munhu mukuru webasa renyu, randinofunga kuti rakanyanya, rakakura, rakakosha chaizvo. Uye isu takagara pano mubapiro reexpo ye30th Convention yeCanadian Labor Congress. Saka ndiri kuedza kunyura mukati nepandinogona napo, ndichiedza kutaura nevanhu vakawanda sezvandinokwanisa, ndidzidze nepandinogona napo. Uye ipapo vanhu vari kuteerera kune izvi vachave neruzivo rushoma rwekumashure rwebasa rakarongeka muCanada. Ndinofunga kuti tanga tichinzwa nyaya hombe dzenhau: kuramwa mabasa kwevashandi, vadzidzisi muOntario, “mukonikoni werusununguko”. Pane zvimedu nezvimedu zvatinowana. Uye, sezvamunoziva, kazhinji, vanhu vekuAmerica havasi ivo vakabatanidzwa mune zviri kuitika muCanada.
Nora Loreto:
Nyadzi.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Kunyara, kunyara [kuseka].
Nora Loreto:
Nokuti tinoziva zvose pamusoro pako.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Rudyi. Saka ndaida kutangira ipapo, chaizvo, uye kubvunza kana uchikwanisa kupa ziso reshiri yako kuona kune bato revashandi muCanada izvozvi pakati pemhepo dzese dzesango dzezvematongerwo enyika.
Nora Loreto:
Hongu.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Kunge COVID yakawana yekuisa, senge bapiro rekurudyi rinokwira. Saka izvozvi, patiri, Chivabvu 2023, chii chaunoverenga pamusangano weCanada?
Nora Loreto:
Ndinovenga kuita izvi kwauri, asi ndinofanira kukudzosa. Kana tichizoita hurukuro iyi, tinofanira kutarisa zvishoma mugirazi rinoratidza kumashure. Uye basa reCanada rave mudambudziko, ndingati, kwemakumi emakore, kutaura chokwadi. Yakarohwa neoliberalism, sezvazvakaita munyika dzese dzekuMadokero. Uye ndanga ndichingotaura kune mumwe munhu kuti dai zvisiri zvemutemo zvinodiwa nemubatanidzwa kuti umiririre nhengo uye kuita basa rehukama hwemaindasitiri - Ndiro basa guru rebato revashandi - Isu tingadai tisina kana zvakawanda zve sangano revashandi nhasi. Nekuti isu chokwadi hatina zvakawanda zvemafambisirwo emagariro, kutaura chokwadi. Mafambiro mazhinji akauya nekuenda uye haana kukwanisa kuzvigadzirisa, ingave iri sangano revakadzi kana anti-war movement. Zvirokwazvo, kwave nemafambiro matsva senge Idle No More, inova bato rekodzero dzeVanhu, uye LANDBACK, uye Black Lives Matter. Asi vashandi havana kurarama vasina kukuvadzwa. Yakarohwa nehana.
Saka izvi ndizvo zvaitaridzika sezvatakapinda munguva yedenda. Uye isu tine zvakajairika, ndingati, musanganiswa maererano neUnited States yeruzhinji uye yakavanzika mubatanidzwa density, asi yakavanzika mubatanidzwa density yakakwira. Uye saka pane chinenge chikamu chimwe muzvitatu chevashandi muCanada vakabatana, uye iyo inhamba yakakura zvakakwana kuve nemhedzisiro yakakura pamafambiro anoita sarudzo. Kunyangwe bato ravanofambirana naro, rinova NDP, mhedzisiro yacho haisi paNDP. Zviri pamusoro pemataurirwo azvinoitwa zvinhu uye kuti kunyange bato rezvematongerwo enyika rinonyanya kurudyi munyika muno riri kuyedza kukwezva vashandi kuburikidza nekutaura, kuburikidza nepro worker, pro-union rhetoric, iyo inonakidza, inonakidza kwazvo. Saka ndiwo mamiriro ezvinhu.
Saka vashandi vanopinda mudenda iri, kutaura chokwadi, vakarohwa uye vasina chokwadi chekuti zvingaite sei zvinhu zvese: chengetedza nhengo pasi nekuva nemidziyo yekuzvidzivirira yakaringana uye kurwisa hurumende, nekuti zvinosiririsa, hurumende inorwa yakave yakanyorwa sebato rekurudyi. chinhu. Uye saka mibatanidzwa yakagadzira kubvumirana uku, kwete zviri pamutemo, asi pakanga paine kubvumirana kuti taifanira kutsigira hurumende. Uye saka izvo zvave zvakaoma chaizvo.
Panguva imwecheteyo, kune mhirizhonga yebasa yakavandudzwa. Uye saka takaona nhoroondo yekuramwa mabasa kwevashandi vedzidzo mudunhu reOntario, uye mutungamiriri wedunhu iroro akaedza kudarika bumbiro remutemo akamanikidza vashandi ivavo kudzokera kubasa. Zvino, ndinoreva, vatungamiri vanga vachiedza kuita izvi kwenguva yakareba, uye pave nenzira dzavakaedza kuita izvi, uye Dare Repamusorosoro rakapa mutongo wekuti izvo hazvienderane nebumbiro remutemo. Asi maitiro akaitwa nemutungamiri wenyika munyaya iyi akanga akakwana kubatanidza vashandi, izvo zvakaoma munyika muno. Uye pakanga paine kubatana kumberi kwakapotsa kumutsa mhirizhonga, uye mukuru wehurumende akadududza. Saka kwaiva kukunda kukuru kwevashandi ivavo.
Nekukurumidza kumberi kwemwedzi mina uye tangove nekuramwa mabasa kwevashandi vehurumende, kusanganisira vashandi veFederal Revenue Agency, Canada Revenue Agency, uye yaive nhoroondo kune 155,000 vashandi vari kuramwa mabasa. Asi pari zvino vari mushishi rekuvhotera chibvumirano chiri kunzi nevanhu vakawanda hachisi kunyatsokunda. Saka -
Maximillian Alvarez:
Ibhegi rakasanganiswa.
Nora Loreto:
Ibhegi rakasanganiswa! Ibhegi rakasanganiswa. Ibhegi rakasanganiswa. Uye chakanyanya kuoma ndechekuti dzidzo yebasa munyika ino yakaderera. Vanhu havanzwisise kuti basa remibatanidzwa nderei. Asi izvo zvandakaona, ndanyora nezve zvinhu izvi kweanenge makore gumi nemashanu ikozvino, pane kufarira kutsva. Chii chinonzi mubatanidzwa? Sei uripo? Chii chiri chinangwa cheizvi? Tinoda mibatanidzwa zvechokwadi here? Uye zvakaita senge, ndinoreva, hongu, unoda here kuti pfungwa dziunzwe kubasa kwako [Alvarez anoseka] kana kwete? Hazvina kuoma kupfuura izvozvo.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Ehe. Zviri kwauri. Iwe unoda kuve uri pakuda kwechisingaperi chemukuru wako anohura kana iwe unoda kuve neimwe mhando yekumashure ipapo? Uye icho chave chiri chinonakidza chinopenya nzvimbo muUnited States zvakare. Uye hatina akawanda iwayo mazuva ano. Uye isu tiri, sezvamakataura, tichitamba kunyange kure nekumashure nekuwanda kwemubatanidzwa kumativi ese ari pamusoro pegumi.
Nora Loreto:
Oo, wow.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Hongu.
Nora Loreto:
Ndinoziva [Alvarez anoseka]. I have to make that noise kuitira kuti vanhu vanzwisise kuti pakaderera.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Zvakanyanya, zvakaderera. Uye kunyangwe neruzhinji, ndinoreva kuti vazhinji vacho vashandi vehurumende, asi mune vanhu vazhinji muAmerica vachitarisa kurohwa kwamakamboita pano nguva pfupi yadarika uye kufunga, oh, ndinofungidzira ndosaka tisiri. vanobvumirwa kurova nenzira iyoyo muUnited States - Mubazi rehurumende iro, kana vashandi vehurumende.
Saka kuchine, ndinofunga, zvakawanda izvo zvakadzidza kukundwa pakati pezviyero uye faira randinotaura naro, asi kunyanya pakati pevadiki vevashandi, Gen Z, kunyangwe huwandu hwakaringana hwemireniyumu. Uri kuona, sezvawataura, kufarira kwakawanda mukudzidza kuti mubatanidzwa chii, imwe yevapanduki, yekurwa pfungwa iri kutoisa mibatanidzwa yakagadzwa zvishoma patsoka yavo yekumashure, yandinofunga kuti yakakosha uye yakakosha. . Asi kune miganhu kune izvozvo zvakare.
Kana iwe uri Amazon Labor Union kana Trader Joe's United uye usina tsigiro iyoyo nekuda kwenzira idzo mitemo yevashandi yakarongedzerwa nekuda kwemaboss muUS, unogona kunyatso kudzvanya nekuodza moyo nekunonotsa avo vapanduki. mishandirapamwe, zvinova zviri kuedza kuitwa nevakuru.
Saka zvakadaro, ndaida kubvunza, mune izvo, kana iwe uri kuona iyo yakafanana chizvarwa kupatsanura? Simba racho riri kuuya zvakanyanya kubva kune vadiki matinji evashandi kana kubva kune mamwe masekete mhiri kweCanada? Ndaida kungobvunza nezvazvo.
Nora Loreto:
Zvinonakidza nekuti ini ndanga ndiri paCBC, nhepfenyuro yenyika, uye hoko pane izvo zvatiri kuona kusimuka kwakasimba mumubatanidzwa wakatenderedza Starbucks neAmazon. Uye ndinofanira kumira pese pese kana jenari randiongorora. Zvakafanana, uri kutaura nezveUnited States. Hatisi kuzviona muCanada. Isu tinoziva kwazvo kuti mibatanidzwa inofarira zvikuru kuunganidza uye kuronga uye kuyedza kushandura zvinhu mudura, nepo Amazon matura, hongu, isu tine zvivakwa zvekuzadzikisa munyika yese zvine matani evanhu vanoda kubatanidzwa.
Paive neStarbucks yaive ichangobatanidzwa muWaterloo, Ontario. Ndinotenda kuti ndiyo yekutanga mundangariro dzemunhu wese, nde-
Maximillian Alvarez:
Shoutout.
Nora Loreto:
Ehe. Zvinoshamisa. Asi hazvina kuita sekuti ichi chinhu chiri kuitika zvakanyanya muCanada. Uye vekuCanada vane izvi, handizive, dambudziko, iri systemic dambudziko rekugara uchitarisa kuUnited States uye uchiti, oh ini zvangu, izvi zvinoshamisa.
Uye iyo Amazon Union muenzaniso wakanaka kwazvo weiyo iyo mibatanidzwa yenyika muCanada inokoka vanhu veAmazon Union kuti vauye vataure sekunge vhezheni yavo muUnited States handiro dambudziko. Nekuti masangano emubatanidzwa ane zvakawanda zvipingamupinyi zvavanofanira kukunda kuti vakwanise kupinda mukambani yakaita seAmazon. Amazon inonyatsoziva, zvakanyanya kubata nevashandi vemotokari, semuenzaniso, nekuti vashandi vemotokari ndivo mwero wemubatanidzwa muNorth America. Uye saka hazvishamise kuti iboka revanhu vechidiki vari kufara vakaita senge, fuck, ini ndichaita izvi ”Ndakafanira kutandara naDerek Palmer, uye zvakaita senge, murume, unotonhorera. uye pakati. Zvinoshamisa kwazvo.
Asi rudzi irworwo rwesimba rwakakosha, asi isu hatingatarisire kuti vanhu vachange vaine tarenda rakakwana kuti vaende vanotora simba iroro vozotora chimwe chinhu chakaita seAmazon. Uye ndinofunga kuti iri ndiro dambudziko nemasangano akagadzwa.
Makore gumi apfuura ndakanyora bhuku pamusoro pesangano revashandi muCanada nevashandi vadiki, uye zvakanzwa kusuwa ipapo kuti vashandi vadiki vakavharirwa kunze kwemhando idzi dzenzvimbo, dzenzvimbo dzemagungano. Uye mubatanidzwa wangu - Iyo isiri pano, haisi nhengo yeCanadian Labor Congress, asi ndiyo mubatanidzwa mukuru webazi rakazvimirira muCanada - Pakokorodzano yedu muna Nyamavhuvhu, yechinhu chakaita senhume 10, vasingasviki makumi mashanu vaive vashandi vadiki.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Gee.
Nora Loreto:
Uye wechidiki zera rekucheka haazi mudiki. Imakore makumi matatu nemashanu. Zvakafanana neharahwa, mushandi wechidiki [vose vanoseka]. Uye pandakanyora bhuku rangu, ndaiva, chokwadi, mushandi wechidiki panguva iyoyo. Uye chokwadi, kune homwe dzevanhu vanoiwana. Kune homwe dzevanhu vane zvematongerwo enyika zvakanaka uye ongororo, asi kazhinji, zvimiro zviri kuvhara vashandi vechidiki kunze. Uye chiri kunyanya kunetsa ndechekuti kune kusimuka - Uye izvi zvinonyanya kunakidza - Pane kusimuka kwevashandi vakasiya basa izvo zvino zvinoburitsa vashandi vadiki. Uye ini zvirokwazvo ndiri kuona izvi mumubatanidzwa wangu, apo kamwe kamwe iwe uchaona danho richipfuudzwa kune makumi maviri evatora pamudyandigere, asi ipapo vashandi vadiki havachakwanisa kutaura mumubatanidzwa wavo zvakare.
Saka pane kunetsana kunonakidza kwemarudzi kwandisingafungi kuti hutungamiriri hwakamboverengerwa nemazvo. Uye kunyangwe pasina kupokana kuti kune kufara pakati pemamwe mapoka evechidiki, basa randinoita, kunyanya kuburikidza nepodcast yangu, ndingati vashandi vadiki vanowanzo netsekana.
Havasati vagadzirira kuenda kumabharicade. Vakafanana, chii chiri kuitika? Uye ndinogadzirisa sei izvi? Uye handizivi pekutangira. Uye iwo anoona formula, vakaita serombo rakanaka kana kungwara, kana panzvimbo chaiyo panguva chaiyo, kana kuve nevanhu chaivo vakavakomberedza. Asi hapana nzira yakarongeka yekuita shuwa kuti vanhu vasiri munzvimbo idzodzo vane mhando imwechete yerutsigiro kuti vakwanise kuunza izvo zvinhu mberi. Nekuti chokwadi ndechekuti zvakaoma kuita mubatanidzwa, asi murume, unoita chibvumirano chekutanga chemubatanidzwa, zvakatooma. Munoita that second collective agreement, zvakatonyanya kuoma nekuti ma boss vanenge vakurimira pasi nehuronyo hwese hunouya nekutonga zvinhu izvi.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Zvakanaka, uye izvo zvinondiita kuti ndifunge nezve, zvakare, kudzokera kune ziso reshiri, nekuti ini ndinofunga ipfungwa yakakosha kutaura, kunyanya kune vanhu vari kuUnited States vari kuteerera kune izvi. Nekuti isu tinokwanisa kunzwisisa izvi mumamiriro erudzi rwedu, asi kana tichitarisa kunze kwenyika, kamwe kamwe tinotanga kudzikisa zvese kusvika kumafomu akareruka uye maumbirwo.
Saka zvandinoreva neizvi igungano reAFL-CIO muPhiladelphia harimiriri sangano rose revashandi. Icho chikamu chikuru chemasangano. Asi kunyangwe zvakadaro, une akawanda ematambudziko auri kutsanangura pano. Uye musandifungire zvisizvo, zvinofadza kunzwa Mutungamiri Liz Shuler nevamwe vachiti, ticharonga miriyoni yenhengo itsva mumakore gumi. Asi kune vazhinji vedu vanonzwa izvozvo uye vachitarisa kuderera kwehutano hwemubatanidzwa, izvo hazvizove zvakanaka. Izvo hazvina kana kuwanda zvakadaro.
Uye vakaita senge, o, asi ingori hwaro. Uye ini ndakaita senge, ndeipi meseji iyo kutumira, kunyanya panguva ino apo tese takatarisana nemutengo wedambudziko rekurarama. Nyika iri kufashaira. Rekodha purofiti iri kuitwa nemakambani mamwe chete ari kushandisa shit kubva kune vashandi vavo uye kuchovha bhasikoro kuburikidza nemiviri kuruboshwe uye kurudyi seAmazon.
Saka ndaida kubvunza kuti bato revashandi, sekuti riri kuCanada, rinokwana papi munzvimbo yakakura yezvematongerwo enyika, uye chii, kana paine, chingaitwe nevashandi kurwisa kutangazve kwebapiro rekurudyi, kana zvarisiri kuita?
Nora Loreto:
Ehe. Zvakanaka, mubvunzo ndewekuti inokwana papi hausi mubvunzo kuti inofanira kupinda papi. Uye inopindirana papi isu takasungirirwa nezvematongerwo enyika sezvavari nemamiriro ezvinhu ekuti hapana angafungidzira kunze kwegakava regore negore. , tinotsigira NDP here? Isu tine rutsigiro rwakakomba kune veRiberals? Tinodaidzira kuvhota kwakarongeka here? Tsvina yese iyi. Uye chokwadi ndechekuti - Uye zvakafanana muUnited States - Kuti isu tine nyika idzi dzevapambi dzine manyepo kumusana wavo, izvo zvisingafanirwe kuvapo, zvinongovapo nekuti boka revanhu rakatenda kuti Mwari akapa nyika kune boka. yevachena vakarasika. Uye ndiyo nheyo chaiyo yenyika dzedu [Alvarez anoseka]. Saka tinofanira kutangira ipapo.
Uye chokwadi, United States ine nhoroondo yakawanda yekuve nyika, asi netsaona chete, nekuti isu takangowana vanhu vese vanoda korona yeBritish ndokuzova nyika gare gare. Asi chinhu chimwe chete. Tiri kutaura nezve, dzakanyanya kufanana kuurayiwa kwevanhu, mhirizhonga yakafanana, maitiro akafanana. Chinhu chatinosiyanisa zviri pachena kuti United States yakafunga maitiro ekuita hegemony yepasirese, uye isu hatina. Takangofanana, unoziva chii? Izvi zvinoita sebasa rakawanda [Alvarez anoseka]. Tichangorova rwendo rwedu kuenda kune hegemony yepasirese uye tinovimba kuti haisi kuzotiruma mbongoro. Uye zvino tave munguva yekuruma mbongoro.
Maximillian Alvarez:
[Anoseka] Right. Tiri muchikamu chekuziva chenhoroondo.
Nora Loreto:
Ndizvo chaizvo. Saka basa rinokwana papi mune zvese izvi? Zvakanaka, saka pane zvakawanda zvinopesana pano. Imwe, basa chimiro chedemocracy uye chivharo chinopesana nefascism. Uye ichokwadi. Uye zviri kuitika pauriri hwegungano iri imwe nhanho yedemocracy. Tinogona kukakavara kuti ndeipi nhanho, asi kana tichizoienzanisa nedemocracy huru muCanada, igutsaruzhinji. Ndinoreva, democracy huru haisi nani.
Uye kana iwe uine chimiro chedemocracy uye kana uine muchina wehutungamiriri uye uine nzira yekunyatso kuronga vanhu pavari, chaizvo panyama pavanenge vari munzvimbo dzavo dzebasa kana munharaunda dzavanogara, ipapo isimba rakawanda. Ndiko kwavanofanira kunge vari. Asi kwavari kuzviona, ndinofunga, semapoka evamiriri vanofunga kuti vanogona kupesvedzera zvematongerwo enyika. Iwe unogona kuita izvi zvematongerwo enyika zvePR kana zvematongerwo enyika zvekusundidzira hurumende kuti ingoita sarudzo chaiyo pano.
Uye chokwadi ndechekuti, sezvo kusaenzana kuri kukura, uye sezvo Canada iri kuramba ichizvimiririra mudambudziko repasi rose kabhoni, kana kuti kabhoni inosemesa, ichivhuvhuta mudambudziko remhepo, tiri kuita kuti zvinhu zvinyanye kuipa. Tiri kuita kuti zvinhu zvinyanye kuipa. Uye vanhu vepakati, zvisinei nekuti vanovhotera ani - Nekuti vanhu vanofamba pakati pemapato, haufanirwe kunyoresa kubato munyika ino. Uye kune kufamba kwakawanda pakati pemapato, zvisinei nekuti vanhu varipi, vari kuda chokwadi. Varikuda kuti mumwe munhu ataure, unoziva chii? Tinogona kusaona chando gore rinouya munguva yechando, uye iro idambudziko rakakura. Ndiko kurwisa kuzivikanwa kwedu uye kurwisa nyika uye kurwisa zvese.
Saka basa rinofanirwa kuona kuti rinosangana sei neizvi. Uye handina tariro yakawanda yemamiriro ezvinhu, nekuti havasati vasvika. Hutungamiri hwenyika ino haunzwisise simba ravanaro uye basa rinouya nesimba iroro rekusagara pasi naJustin Trudeau, asi kumuvharira kunze kwehofisi yake. Ndiro simba.
Uye ndosaka vanhu vemarori vaive nemukurumbira, nekuti kunyangwe vekuCanada vasingabvumirani zvachose nezvavari kuita, vakaita senge, vanoita kunge vechokwadi. Zvakafanana, o, asi hazvisi zvechokwadi. Hadzisi dzechokwadi! [Alvarez anoseka] Iboka remachuckleheads. Hadzisi dzechokwadi zvachose. Asi vanoita sevari kutaura nyaya dzine basa. Uye zvese zvatiinazvo kazhinji kuruboshwe ndezvekutaura. Uye rhetoric haina kukwana. Haisi kana pedyo zvakakwana. Dzimwe nguva kutambisa nguva yedu. Dzimwe nguva kuvanza zvematongerwo enyika zvakaipa. Uye izvozvo zvakaoma chaizvo, uye ndinonetseka nazvo.
Ini ndinonetsekana nazvo, ndobva ndaenda kunotaura nevanhu vari mukanzuru yevashandi mune rimwe dhorobha diki kune imwe nzvimbo munyika, uye vanhu vari kunetsekana nenyaya dzakafanana, uye vanoziva zvinotora kuti uhwine. , uye vanoziva kuoma kwazvakaita. Saka isu tine mhinduro, asi isu hatigone kuisa yakawanda stock, ndinofunga, muhutungamiriri, zvinosuwisa. Uye zvakare kuziva vatungamiriri vari kuita basa rakanaka chaizvo, nekuti kune vamwe vavo kunze uko zvakare.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Vari kunze uko. Uye zvakakosha kusimudzira avo uye kubatsira vanhu kuona mazinga akasiyana evanhu musangano. Sezvawakataura, hutungamiriri hwepasirese hahuenzane nemubatanidzwa saizvozvo. Uye takaona zvakawanda izvo, ndinofunga, takaona vanhu vazhinji vachidzidza izvo munguva chaiyo yegore rapfuura, makore maviri muStates. Nekuti zvakare, tiri kutanga nesangano revashandi rave riri kumashure kwaro uye nekuderera kweinopfuura hafu yezana ramakore panguva ino, mune vanhu vazhinji vasingazive kodzero dzekutanga dzavanadzo munzvimbo yebasa. Iwe une nyika yaune tekinoroji kodzero idzi, asi kana iwe uchida kudzishandisa, unofanirwa kuenda kuna Ishe weRings fucking excursion uko iwe unogona kudzingwa chero nguva, shamwari dzako dzinogona kudzingwa, chitoro chako chinogona. vhara, zvipingamupinyi zvose izvi.
Nora Loreto:
Unogona kupfurwa.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Zvine nzungu. Unogona kupfurwa. Kwete kana kutamba.
Asi ini ndaive nevanhu vazhinji vaisvika kwandiri vachibvunza nezve chokwadi chekuti vashandi vaJohn Deere, Hutungamiri hwepasirese hweUAW vakakurudzira kuti chibvumirano chekuvhota chibvumirwe. Uye nhengo yakavhota pasi kaviri nekuti vaive vakaita, fuck izvo. Isu takaita kuti kambani iyi iite mari yakawanda kupfuura zvavakamboita panguva yedenda. Tinofanirwa nezvakawanda. Uye saka vanhu vakazviona uye vakaita senge, o, pane musiyano pakati penzvimbo uye faira nehutungamiriri, uye urikuona iyo ichitamba munguva chaiyo.
Nora Loreto:
Uye kana ndikangosvetukira mukati, hazvina kuipawo kuita tension iyoyo. Nekuti kana iwe uri patafura yekutaurirana uye iwe usingafungi kuti unogona kuenda mberi, kuve neiyo mvumo kubva kunhengo yako kwakakosha.
Uye saka pane zvakare kutevera dambudziko remutungamiri pano apo isu tinoisa yakawanda stock muhutungamiriri kuti ive izwi renhengo. Zvino kana nhengo yaramba izwi rehutungamiriri, tinoita sekuti, o, havachabatiki. Asi pane zvakakosha zvikuru kusundidzira nekudhonza pano izvo zvinofanirwa kuitika kana tichizokwanisa kuchinjisa chero tsandanyama zvachose.
Izvi zvakaitika, hongu, nevashandi vemubatanidzwa muCanada, uye handizive kana paine acharamba chibvumirano chekuyedza. Ndinoziva kuti boka rimwe chete rinokurudzira kukundwa, uye vanomirira vashandi zviuru makumi matatu nezvitanhatu, izvo zvisiri munhu. Uye vanhu vanogona kuverenga izvozvo sekukundikana kwebasa. Ini ndinosarudza kuverenga izvo, sezvazviri, kushanda kushanda kwekupedzisira, uko hunhengo hwakafanana, usatitengese kunze, uye isu tichakurangarira iwe uye isu tichatsiva iyo bargaining timu, uye tiri kuenda. kuudza manejimendi, tarisai, takabatana uye tiri serious. Uye isu hatisi serious chete nemubatanidzwa wedu, tiri kuuya shure kwako.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Ini ndinofunga kuti ipfungwa huru uye yakakosha, nekuti aya ndiwo maitiro andinoita apo vanochengetedza muAmerica vari kuedza kugara vachiratidza matambudziko nemubatanidzwa. Uye chiripo hachisi kutaura kuti mibatanidzwa haina matambudziko. Chokwadi vanopenga. Hutungamiri hweUAW hwakapomedzerwa mhosva yekubiridzira uye kubiridzira, uye isu tese tinoziva nezveHoffa neTeamsters. Tine matambudziko.
Asi kana uine matambudziko akafanana pakambani yako, iwe semushandi unokwanisa here kuvhota CEO wako, handiti? Kana kuti vatungamiriri vakadzika midzi uye vezvematongerwo enyika vanoita ratidziro yekuda kuvhota kwedu, asi pakupedzisira havape shit izvo chero mumwe wedu anofanira kutaura pachedu. Saka sezvawakataura, basa rakarongeka richiri inzvimbo yaunogona kushandisa demokrasi kana ukasarudza. Uye kune tariro yakawanda yekuona shanduko iyi ichiitika kuburikidza nekuita kwedemocracy mubato rakarongeka revashandi kupfuura kune dzimwe nzvimbo dzakawanda dzehupenyu hwedu.
Uye ndicho chinhu chekuva netariro nacho. Uye ndinofungidzira kuti ndinogona kutaura newe zuva rose, asi ndinoziva kuti rave zuva rakareba uye ndinofanira kukuregai muchienda. Asi ini ndaida kupinza iwo mubvunzo wekupedzisira kana iwe uchinzwa kuti nzvimbo yakakura yatiri kuona pasi rose iri kusvika kuvanhu muCanada zvakare, kana iri kutamba chinhu mukusimbisa vashandi zvishoma kuti vatore izvo. step. Vashandi vekuUnited Kingdom kuUK yese vari kutora matanho eindasitiri kubva kuvashandi veRMT vataive navo pashow kuvashandi veNHS, kuvadzidzisi uye zvidzidzo zveyunivhesiti. France iri kuramwa mabasa, asi tanga tichiona kuramwa mabasa muGreece neBelgium neGermany, mhemberero dzavo dzeMayday pamwe nekuratidzira pasi rose svondo rapfuura. Iwe unonzwa sekunge vanhu vekuCanada vanozviona ivo mune izvo, kana iwe unonzwa senge simba iro, unorinzwa chero kupi mune zvatiri kuona muCanada izvozvi?
Nora Loreto:
Ehe, ndinofunga kuti iri kubatana nevanhu. Ndinonzwa zvakawanda kubva kuvanhu vachiti, "Nei isu tisingaite seFrance?" Uye zvakaita sekuti, "Zvakanaka, nekuti ivo nzungu muFrance ndosaka." Uye ini ndinotaura izvozvo semunhu anogara muguta umo ruzhinji rwekubuda kwedu rwunobva kuFrance. Saka ini ndine ruzivo rwakawanda chaizvo nezvekuti zvinhu zvakasiyana sei kana uchigara munharaunda yeAnglo-Saxon inopesana nenharaunda yakasiyana. Asi kwete, kune mafaro akawanda. Uye mubvunzo ndewokuti, iwe unoshandisa sei kufara ikoko? Unofambisa sei kufara ikoko kubva kune imwe nzira kuenda kune imwe? Vashandi vemubatanidzwa vari kuramwa mabasa muCanada, yaive nhoroondo. Uku kwaiva kuramwa mabasa kwenhoroondo. Aka ndiko kekutanga kuitika kubva muna 1991. Uye nguva iyoyo kubva muna 2023 kusvika 1991 yakanga iri nguva yakaoma yekushanda. Yakanga iri nguva yakaoma yekuruboshwe.
Uye isu hatisati tapora kubva pazviri, asi zvinoratidza kuti kune mafaro, uye kune nzira dzakasiyana dzekuyera izvi, asi ndakakumbirwa kuti ndiite hurukuro neredhiyo yeredhiyo yedu yenyika, uye mashandisiro azvinoita vanoburitsa muenzi kunze. uye zviratidzo zvinoti vanoda muenzi kana kuti kwete. Uye chekupedzisira chandakaita, chaive chekuramwa mabasa kwevashandi vehurumende, chiteshi chese muCanada chaida bvunzurudzo. Saka izvo zvinoshamisa. Izvozvo hazviitiki. Uye izvo zvaishamisa zvekuti vagadziri vakaita senge, "Ah, murume, izvi zvinokusvota. Muri kuita mainterview akawanda.” Uye mabvunzurudzo aive neshungu, achida kuziva chaizvo. Uye hazvisi zvekuve pro-labour.
Ini ndinovenga pfungwa iyi yekuti uri pro-labour kana anti-labour. Zvakafanana, kushanda basa. Unogona kunge uri capitalism kana anti-capitalism, seanopokana necapitalist, ndinofunga kuti zviri pachena kuti tinofanira kuva divi ripi, asi ungave sei pro kana anti-labour. Izvo zvakafanana nekuva pro kana anti-migwagwa, handiti? Ehe, tinogona kufamba-famba pasina migwagwa, asi inobatsira. Uye ndinovenga mota, uye ndinoda kuona migwagwa mishoma, asi kana mugwagwa uri kugadzirwa, handina kufanana, zvakanaka, pamwe dzimwe nguva ndinoita sekuti, “Rufu kumugwagwa iwoyo.” Asi kazhinji-
Maximillian Alvarez:
Iwe wakaita sekuti, "Ah, kwete, dimikira iri riri kuparara."
Nora Loreto:
Ehe, kwete, asi kazhinji unoita senge, “Kwete, nzira ine musoro. Ndiwo mafambiro atinoita.” Asi kushanda ingori nzira yekuita zvinhu, uye inzira ine musoro. Saka chipingamupinyi chatinacho ndechekuti tarasikirwa nemakumi matatu emakore. Takarasikirwa nemakumi matatu emakore eruzivo rwevashandi munyika ino, uye havasi vashandi vechidiki chete, ndiwo marudzi ese evashandi. Uye zvakare neaya makumi matatu emakore, isu takarasikirwa zvakare nei, 700,000 mabasa ekugadzira, ayo aizoshandura kusvika kagumi izvo muUnited States, uye chokwadi United States yakave nekudonha kwekugadzira zvakare, zvinova nekuda kwehutungamiriri hwedu uye nekutenda kutengeserana pachena,.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Uye nekukurumidza parutivi pane izvo, semunhu akakurira zvakanyanya uye asisiri izvo, asi ichi ndicho chimwe chezvinhu zvinondirovesa nehana kana ndichitaura kune nyowani quote unquote iyo populist chaiyo vari kutuka, sezvawakataura. , vari kutora mutauro iwoyo unogona uye unonakidza kune chikamu chakakosha chevanhu vanoshanda vakaona moyo wemaindasitiri wemaguta avo, matunhu avo akabviswa kwemakumi emakore, uye vasina kumbobvira vanyatsoita mabasa emubatanidzwa uye iyo yekusimudzira hupfumi yakatsiviwa zvizere kunze kwekunge yakaderera muhoro sevhisi basa, gig basa, zvichingodaro uye zvichingodaro.
Iwe unoona hutsva huchitaura kumarwadzo iwayo, kurwadziwa chaiko uye uchiti, "Ah, mabasa ako ese akaenda kuChina kana mabasa ako akaenda ku..." Ndinoreva, kunyanya vanotaura nezveChina.
Nora Loreto:
Chero kupi.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Chero kupi. Asi ini ndakaita sekuti, “Ndimi vasikana vaitsigira izvi makore makumi maviri apfuura. Ndakakura ndichiteerera imi muchitaura kuti masangano evashandi aiparadza zvigadzirwa munyika nekuda kwevarombo vemabhizimisi vasingakwanise kukwikwidza. Saka vaive vasina zvekuita kunze kwekutoenda kunze kwenyika. Uye zvino wava namakore makumi maviri gare gare, uri kuita sokunge wanga uri kudivi redu nguva yose. Zvinondinetsa.”
Nora Loreto:
Ehe. Zvakanaka, nokuti yakanyanyisa, handiti? Ndinoreva kuti, takagadzirirwa kuvenga unyengeri kupfuura chero chinhu chipi zvacho. Unogona kundirova kumeso, asi kana uri munyengeri, zvinoita sekunge ndicharangarira hunyengeri kupfuura kurova kumeso. Uye ndiri kushanda pabhuku izvozvi, uye zvave kundimanikidza kudzokera kuma1980, ma1990, uye nezvaiitika kuCanada, uye kwete kuCanada chete. Zviripachena, Ronald Reagan anoita basa rakakura mukuti maitiro edu ezvematongerwo enyika akachinja sei uye chero. Asi ndinoreva, tinopomera Reagan. Asi iwo maitiro aiitika muCanada asati asarudzwa, zvirokwazvo.
Uye chatinokanganwa inzanga yatakavaka mushure mehondo mushure meHondo Yenyika II yaiva nzanga yakanga ine vanhu vakawanda vakaona zvakananga kuparadza kwehondo, vakaonekana nevanhu vasina kumbodzoka. Yakanga iri nguva yehondo yakateverwa nekuora mwoyo, yakateverwa nehondo, uye kwavakaona kunyanyisa kwefascism kuita izvo fascism inoita. Zvino, chibvumirano chepashure pehondo chaive isu tichaponesa capitalism nekupa vanhu, varume, vachena, mhuri dzinokunda chingwa, vakadzi vanogara pamba, isu tichakupa zvaunoda kuti urarame uye tichakupa mabasa akanaka. Uye ndiwo maitiro atinovaka hupfumi hwakarurama. Uye yakashanda kwechinguva chiduku.
Nora Loreto:
… hupfumi chete. Uye yakashanda kwechinguva chidiki kusvika yamira kushanda nenzira yakakura. Uye saka kuchine, ndinofunga, hombe hombe kubva panguva iyoyo ndosaka Make America Great zvakare ine resonant uye inoshanda. Zvakafanana nesu taimbova nesosaiti inoshanda. Ndainge ndave kukwanisa kutenga imba yangu. Canada yakaipisisa kupfuura United States padambudziko redzimba maererano nemari yedu yedzimba. Hazvitendeseki. Uye saka zvino tiri pano makore 40 gare gare pashure pa1980 uye tichiti, “Patsvene, zvakaipa chaizvo.” Uye kwete chete kuti zvakaipa chaizvo, asi isu hatina mumwe wezvematongerwo enyika kudivi ripi zvaro reImba yeCommons anoda kutora chero chinhu ichi. Kune wezvematongerwo enyika anoda kuishandisa kuti asarudzwe, uyezve kune wezvematongerwo enyika anoda kuishandisa nenzira yakasiyana kuti asarudzwe, uye hapana chimwe chinhu.
Saka isu tiri nzanga dziri kudzikira. Uye saka vanhu veruboshwe vanoita sei kune izvozvo? Zvakanaka, kuronga kwakadzama. Uye kana kuri kurongeka kwakakasharara, saka tinofanira kunge takasvinura pamusoro pekuti masangano anoita basa rei mune izvozvo. Vanogona kunge vakanyanya. Dzinogona kunge dziri mota dzinonanga radicalization. Vanogona kunge vasina kunyanyisa, uye isu tinofanirwa kuvabvisa munzira. Uye kuziva mutsauko uye kuziva kuti ndiani kwakakosha. Asi pakupera kwezuva, idzi izvematongerwo enyika uye makirasi edu munzvimbo yedu yebasa. Apa ndipo patinopedzera nguva yedu yakawanda. Uye kana vezvematongerwo enyika vedu vakafunga kuti kukurudzira kwakanyanya uye kupihwa kwakanyanya kune vanhu ibasa rakanaka, zvakanaka Kristu, saka tinofanira kunge tichironga mabasa iwayo. Uye ndinofunga kuti zvine musoro nhasi kupfuura zvazvaimboita ndichiri mudiki pakanga paine meseji, “O, zvinongoda munhu mumwechete kuita mutsauko.” Uye wobva waedza uye unoita senge, "Shit, ndaedza."
Maximillian Alvarez:
Handina kuita mutsauko.
Nora Loreto:
Handina kuita mutsauko. Ndakaedza kumisa ma sweatshops and they still exist. Asi chii nhai? Wobva waita sekuti, “Zvakanaka, ndava nevana vaviri. handina nguva."
Maximillian Alvarez:
Hongu, kwete. Sezvandambotaura, ndinogona kutaura newe kwemamwe maawa gumi nezve izvi, asi ini ndinofunga kuti inzvimbo yakanaka yekugumisira nekuti inoisa bhora mumatare edu ese. Mubvunzo hausi wekuti, vashandi vachaitei pagungano iri? Mubvunzo ndewekuti tose tichaitei? Tichasangana sei panguva ino? Uye isu tichashandisa sei iwo masimba akanaka kune yakanyanya mhedzisiro? Tingavaka sei kubatana mukutengeserana, muzvizvarwa zvese, kune dzimwe nzira dzese dzatiri kuita setakapatsanurwa? Uye ndinofunga kuti ishoko rakakosha uye rine tariro rekugumisira. Uye tisati tapedza zviri pamutemo, ndinoda kubvunza kana uchikwanisa kubaya basa rako guru uye uudze vateereri kwavanogona kuriwana uye nezvauri kushanda pazviri.
Nora Loreto:
Zvakanaka. Ehe. Saka zvakare, zita rangu ndinonzi Nora Loreto, uye ndine podcast inonzi Sandy naNora Talk Politics. Iyo podcast yevhiki nevhiki uye chero chinhu chawakamboda kudzidza nezveCanada, chiripo. Iyo inonakidza chaizvo podcast yaunofanirwa kutarisa. Asi ini zvakare ndine Daily News podcast. Saka kana iwe uine manomwe kusvika gumi maminetsi zuva rega rega, iwe unoda kunzwa nhau huru muCanada nepasirese, chokwadi vanhu vazhinji vanga vachiti vanoda zvinhu zvepasirese, titarise kunze uko. Uye zvikasadaro unogona kuwana zvandinonyora pa noraloretto.ca, ndiyo Canadian vhezheni ye.com. Uye ndakasimudza mabhuku maviri kunze zvakare. Saka kana iwe uchida kuverenga nezve mamiriro eCanada feminist movement, unogona kuwana bhuku rangu, Take Back The Fight at Columbia University Press, rakaburitswa muUnited States and Spin Doctors, mabatiro akaita Canada mwedzi gumi nemisere yekutanga denda iri zvakare. kunze muna 10, yaive nguva yehutsinye. Unozivei? Usanyora mabhuku. Usanyora mabhuku. Zvinoyamwa.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Teererai vana.
Nora Loreto:
Ndiyo pfungwa yakaipisisa. Uye saka usanyore mabhuku maviri panguva yedenda.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Ndakaita imwe panguva yedenda. Ini handizive kuti wakaitawo, asi kudos kwauri.
Nora Loreto:
Tongoti dzimwe nhengo dzemuviri wangu dziri pasi uye hadzina kumbomuka. Ndatenda neizvi.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Ndatenda, Nora.
Meg Davis:
Zita rangu ndiMeg uye zvirevo zvangu ndiiye naivo. Ini ndinobva kuOttawa. Ndakashanda mubasa kubva muna 2015, saka ndinofunga kuti ndava nemakore masere ikozvino. Uye ini ndakatanga padiki agency yainzi Media Style uye yakanga yakafanana nevashandi NDP padyo, asi kwete zana muzana yakatarisana nebasa. Zvino kubva ipapo, ndakanga ndasiya ipapo uye ndakawana Point Blank kuburikidza neimwe shamwari yangu yakanga ichikwira mashizha emashizha, ndakanga ndichimuvhara. Uye ipapo ini ndakangogara ipapo kwenguva yakareba kwazvo ndokutanga kuronga kutenderera, ndinofungidzira, kupera kwa2022, zhizha ra2022 kuPoint Blank. Uye ikozvino ndiri kuCLC.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Hongu, hongu. Zvakanaka, Meg, ndinokutendai zvikuru nekugara pasi uye kutaura nesu paReal News Network. Isu takagara pano mutende reAction Network pachikamu cheexpo che30th Constitutional Convention yeCanadian Labor Congress. Uye Nhau Dzakanaka dziri pano kuti titaure nevanhu vakawanda sezvatinogona, kudzidza zvakawanda sezvatinogona pamusoro pezviri kuitika kune vatinoshanda navo muCanada, kurongeka kuri kuitika, mamiriro akaita sangano revashandi muCanada. Uye zvave chaizvo, zvakanakisa kutaura nevanhu vakaita sewe nezvazvo. Ndiri kunzwa kusimbaradzwa nebasa ririkuitwa pano, iro sezvawataura, iwe waive chikamu charo.
Saka iwe nevaunoshanda navo makabatana kambani yekushambadza nguva pfupi yadarika, uye ndinoda kutaura newe nezvazvo uye kuti zvaive zvakamira sei nekuti zvinoita sekunge… Tichangobva kubvunzurudza James kubva kuGame Workers Union muEdmonton. Uye saka zvinofadza chaizvo kuona zvakawanda, ndinofungidzira, vashandi chena kora sezvataizovadaidza netsika, kupinda mumusangano, kuronga uye kurwira izvo zvavanofanirwa. Uye saka ndaida kubvunza mune iyo nzira kuti iwe wakapinda sei mukuita iro rudzi rwebasa uye kuti iro basa rinotaridzika sei.
Meg Davis:
Ehe, saka zvaisetsa kuti ndapinda sei mazviri. Handina hangu kuzviisa imomo nemaune. Yakanga isiri iyo pfungwa yangu chaiyo. Ndakanga ndave mutsigiri weNDP kwenguva yakareba, uye ndakanga ndaita mishandirapamwe mishomanana paNDP zvakare. Uye ndinofunga patakatanga kubatanidza Point Blank, timu yekutengeserana yakanga yapfuura nepakati pevanhu vashoma panguva iyi panguva yandakanga ndajoina. Uye nguva iri yose iyo timu itsva yaizobva patafura nokuda kwezororo kana nokuda kwechikonzero chipi nechipi chavaifanira kumbomira, vose vaibva vabvapo. Zvakanaka, vazhinji vavo zvakadaro. Uye saka zvakasvika pane imwe nguva patakanga tagadzirira kusvika patafura zvakare. Uye Lucas, chaizvoizvo, shamwari yedu pamwe chete, akanga auya kwandiri ndokubvunza kana ndaida kuva chikamu cheboka nokuti vanhu vashomanana vakanga vataura zita rangu, izvo zvaive zvakanaka uye zvinofadza kuona kuti boka rangu raifunga izvozvo. Ndaigona kuva chikamu chezwi iroro kwavari uye ndaizvininipisa uye ndichitya chaizvo.
Asi ini ndinongopinda ndisina kana chiitiko chekutanga. Kushanda mumubatanidzwa zvinhu uye munyika yemubatanidzwa nenyika yevashandi kwenguva yakareba zvakandipa ruzivo rwandaida kuti ndibve netsoka chaiyo. Asi zvakaratidzwa kwandiri sekuti, "Unoda kuita izvi here?" Uye ndakati, "Hongu hongu, ndinoda." Uye saka ndakadzidza zvakawanda chaizvo kubva kuna Lucas pamaitiro ekuve patafura yekutaurirana uye zvekubvunza uye matekiniki uye zvinhu zvakadaro. Saka ndiwo matangiro andakaita.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Ndinofungidzira pazuva nezuva, vhiki nevhiki level, irudzii rwebasa rawanga uchiita paiyo agency?
Meg Davis:
Panyaya yebasa redu chairo kana kuronga basa?
Maximillian Alvarez:
Ehe, zuva nezuva basa nekuti ndinofungidzira vazhinji vedu hatisati taita basa rakadaro, saka ndiri kuda kuziva kuti mamiriro evashandi aive akaita sei, rudzi rwebasa ramakaita, uye kuti ndedzipi nyaya dzanga dzichimuka kubva. izvo zvaita kuti mese mutange kutaura nezvekubatana?
Meg Davis:
Ehe. Zvakanaka, imamiriro akakosha nePoint Blank nekuti pandakatanga, yaive chitoro chidiki, uye ndinofunga muOttawa, zvakanyanya ruzhinji rwechikwata chaive muOttawa, uye taive vatanhatu vedu uye pamwe zvishoma. pandakatanga. Asi yakakura nekukasira uye yakangopfura zvakanyanya maererano kwete kunyangwe timu pachayo, asi huwandu hwebasa ratakanga tichitora, izvo zvinoshamisa. Hongu, munhu wese anoda kuona nzvimbo yavo yebasa ichiita izvozvo, asi marwadzo ekukura anouya nazvo. Uye pakanga paine kukwira kwakanyanya uye kupera simba, uye ndinofunga vanhu vazhinji vaibvunza kuti sei, nenzira kwayo, uye vachinzwa kutya kuti basa ravo rinogona kunge rakanyanya kunetsa kupfuura zvatinonzwa sezvariri kana isu tichishanda kune inofambira mberi agency.
Uye ndichishanda pazvinhu zvese izvi, ndinorangarira…Kudzokera kumashure pamubvunzo wako pamusoro pekuti basa redu rezuva nezuva chii, takanga tapa mishandirapamwe yakazara yevashandi vevashandi. Saka izvo zvakauya mune akati wandei akasiyana mapasuru, asi dzimwe nguva yaive logo kana mhando yemushandirapamwe, uye dzimwe nguva yaive mushandirapamwe uzere une nzvimbo dzeTV uye kutenga ad uye zano uye zvese izvo zvinhu zvakarongedzerwa. yehupamhi hwezvinhu zvataizoitira mutengi mumwe chete uyezve kugona kwezvinhu zvataizoita. Asi ndinorangarira ndichishanda pamushandirapamwe uyu pakati pedenda kana pakutanga kwedenda apo vanhu vaikumbira kubhadharwa mazuva ekurwara uye gumi akabhadhara mazuva ekurwara kubva kuhurumende muOntario. Uye takanga tichirwira mazuva ekurwara anobhadharwa, uye takanga tisina kana kuajensi yatakanga tiri kuPoint Blank.
Uye pakanga paine zvakawanda izvo fuck yaiuya, ndizvozvo. Vanhu vakaita senge, "Tiri kunyora kopi yese iyi, tiri kuburitsa ese magirafu apo vashandi vari kuda mazuva ekurwara anobhadharwa, uye nei isu tisina?" Uye ndinofunga kuti yaive catalyst kune yakawanda. Ndine chokwadi kuti pane zvimwe zvakawanda. Ini ndanga ndisiri wekutanga bargaining timu, saka ndine chokwadi kuti pane zvimwe zvinhu zvandiri kushaya izvo zvaivewo chikamu checatalyst yeizvozvo. Asi zvakaita sekuti tiri kutaura hurukuro, tinoda kutanga kufamba.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Kurudyi, zvinoita sekunge mamiriro ezvinhu asina kumira zvakanaka kana iwe uri mushambadzi anofambira mberi uyo anobatsira chaizvo mubatanidzwa mumishandirapamwe yavo, kuedza kwavo kuronga, kuvabatsira kugadzira uye kuisa meseji yavo kune vamwe vashandi. Uye iwe uripo uchigadzira izvi, uchigadzira izvi kusvika pachiyero chepamusoro, asi zvinhu zvese zvausina iwe kubasa kwako. Zvinonzwa sekunge izvo zvinogona kungoenda kwenguva yakareba usati watanga kunge, "Hei, chii fuck?"
Meg Davis:
Ehe, uye zvine musoro kudaro, handifunge kuti chaive chinangwa chakaipa kana chero chinhu chaive chekuti, "Hapana mazuva ekurwara akabhadharwa kwauri." Zvakanga zvisiri izvo. Ehe. Kwaingovewo zvimwe kutarisisa kwakaipa kana chimwe chinhu chaive chasara kumashure. Uye ndinofunga isu takawanawo kumanikidzwa kwakawanda kubva kune vatengi senge, "Nei shopu yako isina kubatana?" Uye saka manejimendi ainyatso, achitsigira isu kubatana, uye vakaita senge, "Hezvo iwe enda. Zviite. Hatisi kuzorwa. Tinoda kuti mubatane.” Handifungi chete kufarira kwevashandi, asiwo noudyire kufarira kwebhizimisi. Iwe unofanirwa kuisa izvo pakutanga kana iwe uri bhizinesi. Saka ndinofunga kwaingova nekumanikidza kwakawanda kubva kumativi ese, kurumidza, ita kuti zviitike, zvimwe.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Zvinogara zvichindishamisa kana makambani anofambira mberi kana makambani ari kufambira mberi, uye ndakataura nevashandi vanoshandira akati wandei makambani ari kufambira mberi, kana zvakare, makambani anodaidzira ari kufambira mberi, vangave vashandi vekugadzira chikafu pane imwe vegan nyama imwe kambani inonzi. Hapana Zvikafu Zvakaipa zvakakanganisa mubatanidzwa wavo, uye mushure mekubudirira kukanganisa mubatanidzwa wavo wakavhara hurongwa hwavo hwekushanda muNorth Carolina, vakaradzika munhu wese pasina kupatsanurwa, uye dai vaive nemubatanidzwa, vangadai vakataurirana zviga zvekudzingwa uku. . Vakangokuvadza zvakanyanya kumufananidzo wavo unofambira mberi. Kana Amy's Kitchen, vanhu vanoda Amy's Kitchen uye zvigadzirwa zvavo zvekudya, ivo vakangovhara chirimwa chekugadzira muCalifornia icho chaiedza kubatanidza, kana masangano enhau anofambira mberi kana asiri purofiti anorwisa mazino nezvipikiri. Iwe unoona muganho wekufambira mberi kwavo kwechokwadi kana paine vashandi, kune vashandi vari kuti, "Tinoda mubatanidzwa."
Uye mupfungwa dzangu, ndinongoita senge, "Sei usiri kungoziva mubatanidzwa wako nekuzvidira?" A, chinhu chakanaka kuita. B, zvingakuchengetera tsvina yakawanda yauri kusangana nayo uye nevashandi vako tsvina yakawanda. Uri kukwevera munhu wese mukuita uku kunotyisa, uye uri kukanganisa mukurumbira wako mukuita. Asi zvakare, unoona chaizvo kuti vanhu vakazvipira sei kutsika dzinofambira mberi apo mubvunzo wekugovanisa simba nevashandi vemunhu unouya. Uye saka zvakanaka kunzwa kuti kune mabhizinesi asingatore nzira ine shitty uye nekutora nzira inotsigira yakanaka. Saka ndaida kuziva, kurongeka uye kutaurirana kwakaratidzika sei mumamiriro ezvinhu akadaro, mumamiriro ezvinhu apo iwe wanga usiri panguva imwe chete uchiedza kurwisa mubatanidzwa wemubatanidzwa, uchiedza kuvharidzira kufamba uku mumubhedha?
Meg Davis:
Ehe, saka zvaive pachena kuti zvaive nyore kuti itange pasina kusundidzira kubva kune manejimendi pane iyo pfungwa yekubatana, izvo zvakanaka. Asi ini ndinoona, sezvawakataura, mubhizinesi rega rega rinofambira mberi, pane muganho wekufambira mberi. Pane muganho kune uko kuri nekuti pakupera kwezuva, ini ndinonzwa senge muridzi webhizinesi wega wega capitalist pamoyo pekugara. Kana wapinda munzvimbo iyoyo yesimba, unofanira kunge uri. Uye saka takaona izvo zvichiuya netafura yekutaurirana uye apo mari inobvunza payakatanga kuitika, izvo zvaisiririsa uye zvakakonzera kusawirirana kukuru, ndinofunga, pakati pekomiti yekukurukurirana nemanejimendi, uye ndinofunga vangangotaura kuti ndizvo. chiitiko chakanaka chisina kunaka. Muchokwadi, ini ndakatonzwa izvozvo kubva kune manejimendi kuburikidza nemuzambiringa. Asi izvo zviri kutaurwa, ini handina ruzivo rwekuronga munzvimbo yebasa inomisa kuramba uye iyo inoputika.
Ini chaizvo handina chiitiko chekurarama chekufananidza zviviri izvi, asi zvaishamisa uye zvekuvhura maziso kuona kuti miganhu yaive mukati meinonzi nzvimbo yedu yebasa inofambira mberi. Uye zvinhu zvatakanamatira muzvikumbiro zvemari uye chii chaingova chimwe chinhu chaungafunga kuti chingave chekuzvarwa. Benefits dzakauya zvakanyanya. Takanga tichisunda zvakawanda kupfuura zvatakawana. Isu takawana mahwina akanaka chaizvo muchibvumirano chedu chekubatana pataive, uye chibvumirano chakanaka chose, asi pakanga paine zvinhu zvidiki munzira izvo zvaisafanirwa kunge zviri zvekusundidzira zvavaive, chokwadi.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Zvakanaka, pane icho chinyorwa, ungangotaura zvimwe zvishoma nezve, ndinofungidzira, kuti mhedzisiro yaive yei?
Meg Davis:
Ehe, mhedzisiro yaive chibvumirano chikuru chevanhu. Kwakanga kune mihoro yakawanda yakanaka inokwidziridzwa kumunhu wose. Handichayeuki nhamba yacho chaiyo. Ini ndinofunga yaive yakapoteredza pamwe 7% kana 8% chaiyo yekuuya kuinflation. Izvo zvakadzika kuburikidza zvichienderana nehukuru hwako pakambani zvakare. Saka vamwe vanhu vakawana mari shoma yemuhoro, uye vamwe vanhu vaivepo kwenguva yakareba vakawana yakawanda kugadzirisa. Asi pakanga paine kusawirirana pakati pereshiyo imwe kusvika kutatu, ndinotenda, kuve nemushandi anobhadharwa zvakanyanya, asingapfuure katatu mushandi anotambira yakaderera. Uye pakava nekunetsana pamusoro pekukwira padanho repasi pachikero chemubhadharo, kutaura chokwadi, hapana ari kubhadharwa parizvino kubva pa45 kusvika pa50. Saka zvaingove zvinhu zvidiki zvakadaro apa paive nekamwe kakuvhiringika kuti sei aiwa aive akaoma kudaro.
Asi takawana zororo rekufirwa. Hatisati tambova nazvo, saka kwaive kuhwina kukuru. Uye takawana huwandu hwakanaka hwemazuva ezororo. Ndinofunga tine mazuva 20 ezororo imomo, kana ndiri kurangarira nemazvo. Asi ndinofunga zvakazara, vanhu vaifara. Uye ndinofunga zvinopa chaizvo mubatanidzwa uye vanhu vari muchikwata chezvekutaurirana izvozvi nzvimbo yakawanda yekuwana muchikamu chinotevera chekukurukurirana. Uye i skeleton chaiyo, yakanaka chaizvo kuvaka pairi mune ramangwana. Ini ndinofunga kuti pane zvimwe zvakawanda zvekuhwina, uye ndinofunga timu inosimbiswa chaizvo nechibvumirano chekutanga ichi. Ndizvo zvandanga ndichinzwa hangu. Saka ndinofunga maonero akazara akanaka, asi ivo vanoziva kuti pane zvakawanda zvinoda kuitwa.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Zvakanaka, uye, ndinofungidzira, ndizvo zvazviri kusangano revashandi nguva dzose. Pane nguva dzose zvimwe zvinoda kuitwa. Hatingangogara zvedu tichitaura senge, "Ah, isu takahwina kupera kwevhiki, kurwira kwapera." Aiwa, zviri pachena kuti handizvo sezvatakaona. Vanhu vanoshanda vanoona izvi zuva nezuva. Isu tinobatwa zvisina kunaka nevatungamiriri, nevatengi. Vazhinji vedu tinogona kudzingwa pasina chikonzero. Vazhinji vedu tiri kunetsekana mukati memutengo wenhamo yekurarama kubhadhara rendi, kubhadhara mabhiri edu. Tine vana nemhuri dzatiri kuedza kutsigira. Saka pagara paine kurwa kuita, uye zvave zvichinakidza kuve pano paCLC uye kunzwa nezve vanhu vari kuenderera mberi nekurwa.
Ndinoda kupedzisa nekukubvunza pamusoro pazvo. Semumwe munhu ari mukona yako yevashandi atora chikamu mukumuka uku kuri kukura kwesangano revashandi, kufarira musimba revashandi pamwe chete, hakusi kuwirirana pakati peUS neCanada, ndodawo kuramwa mabasa kuri kuitika munyika. UK, France nezvimwe, asi pane chiri kuitika pano. Tiri kuona marekodhi purofiti ichiitwa isu tese tiri kudzvanywa nekukwira kwemitengo. Tiri kushanda kwenguva yakareba, tiri kushanda nesimba uye kunetseka kuti tiwane chokurarama nacho.
Uye saka zvinokurudzira kuona vanhu vachitendeukira kumasangano uye vachishanda pamwe chete kugadzirisa nyaya idzi. Asi zvinosiririsa uye zvinosiririsa kuti takafanirwa kusvika panguva ino toona kushungurudzwa uye kuwandisa kwatakaona panguva yeCOVID-19. Taifanira kusangana nazvo kuti vanhu vanyatso bhutsura vorwa. Uye saka ndaida kubvunza, zvakare, semunhu ari kushanda uye kuronga pakati pazvo, zvauri kuverenga ndezvemamiriro emusangano muno muCanada. Uri kuona zvatiri kuona, simba rakawanda rinobva kuvashandi vadiki, vanhu vanobva kumaindasitiri ayo asina kumbobatanidzwa senge tech kana indasitiri yebasa? Ini ndinofungidzira, kune vanhu vari kuona uye kuteerera kune izvi kunze kweCanada, iwe unofunga kuti chii chavanofanira kuziva pamusoro pekuti mafambiro arikuno muCanada?
Meg Davis:
Ndinofunga Canada, ndine lenzi chaiyo muOntario zvechokwadi. Ndinofunga kuti zvakasiyana nemapurovhinzi ose. Kune kurwa kwakasiyana kunoitika pamadhigirii akasiyana uye nezvimwe. Asi ndinofunga Ontario, handitaure kuti irikunyanya kunzwisa tsitsi, asi ndinongofungidzira pandinenge ndakaputirwa. Saka ndinonzwa sekunge zvakaipa. Ndinonzwa sekunge kwakashata muOntario. Uye ini ndinonyatsofunga kuti Ontario inofanirwa kunge ichitora zvinyorwa kubva kuFrance. Ndinofunga izvi ndizvo zvatinofanira kusvika. Ini handisi wepfungwa yekumirira kusvika zvinhu zvachinja. Ini handisi pfungwa yekumirira sarudzo. Handifungi kuti vhoti yako ndicho chinhu chakasimba kwazvo. Ndinofunga kuti inobatsira uye yakakosha, asi handifungi kuti ichatisvitsa kupi. Uye isu takazviona kuti hupenyu hwedu hwese.
Hupenyu hwedu hwese, takaona vanhu vakamirira sarudzo vomirira kuvhota uye kumirira iyo nguva imwe chete kushandisa izwi rako nekuisa vhoti yako mubhokisi. Uye handifungi kuti zvakakwana. Uye handifungi kuti izvozvo zvichatisvitsa kupi. Uye ndinofunga kunyange vezvematongerwo enyika vanofambira mberi kana vanhu vari kudivi redu vanogona kungoenda kure nazvo, nekuvhota uye mutemo. Uye ini ndinofunga Ottawa, kwandinobva chaizvo, inosungirirwa muhutongi hwezvinhu nemitemo. Uye ndinofunga tinofanira kutanga kutyora mitemo. Uye ini ndinofunga isu tinofanirwa kusundira kunze kwesarudzo uye kusunda kupfuura kumirira vezvematongerwo enyika kuti vaite shanduko yatinoda kuona. Uye ndinofunga isu tinofanirwa kunge tichitora zvinyorwa kubva kuFrance. Ndinotenda izvozvo chaizvo. Ndinofunga kuti zvichauya kune vanhu vari mumigwagwa.
Ini ndinofunga zvichauya kuzvinhu zvinoratidzika uye zvinotaridzika chaizvo kana zviri panhau, asi chaizvo angori mafambisirwo ane simba evanhu vanoda zvimwe. Uye handingofungi kuti tine ropafadzo yenguva. Tarisa dambudziko remamiriro ekunze izvozvi. Hazvisi kuuya. Zviri pano. Uye ini handifunge kuti pane chimwe chinhu chakakosha kupfuura vashandi vari kurova panguva ino munguva yekuda zvimwe. Tiri kuona kuti inoshanda kakawanda sei uye izvo vashandi vanowana. Takangoona nePSAC, vakasvika pa12.6%. Zvinoshamisa. Uye vaivepo mazuva ese muvhiki yainyanya kushatisa yemamiriro ekunze muOttawa. Kwaitonhora uye kuchinaya uye vaisada kuvapo, asi vaiwana zvavaida. Zvakanaka, vakawana zvakawanda zvezvavaida zvakadaro. Ndinofunga kuti pachine nzvimbo inofanira kugadzirwa, hongu.
Asi ini ndinofunga chandinonyanya kutora ndechekumira kushanda mukati memitemo uye kungosundira kupfuura izvo uye kushandisa fungidziro yako. Ini ndinofunga vanhu vanonyatsoomeswa nehutongi, uye ndinofunga fungidziro dzedu dzinogona kusunda zvakanyanya kupfuura izvo nenzira dzatinogona kuronga uye nzira dzatingade zvimwe. Ndichazvidanidzira ndiri pamatenga edzimba kuti inguva yekupinda mumigwagwa.
Larry Rousseau:
Ini ndiri Larry Rousseau. Ini ndiri Mutevedzeri weMutungamiriri weCanada Labor Congress, uye ndiri kuCLC Convention muMontreal ikozvino kwandiri kupa zvakare chinzvimbo changu nekuti ndawana chaizvo kudanwa kwangu sekudaidzwa kwazvinoitwa nemutungamiri wenyika, ndichirovera dhongi rekushanda. class. Uye ndinofunga kuti ndagara ndichiziva kuti nzira yakanakisa yekuita kuti vashandi vapinde mukirasi yepakati ndeyekubatana uye nekuve nekuwanda kwemubatanidzwa. MuCanada, isu tine nani mubatanidzwa density. Iri kutenderera 30%, 31% kana ukatarisa veruzhinji, vega. Public sector, isu takwira kunosvika makumi manomwe nemashanu kana zvakadaro. Ini ndinobva kuhurumende, kubva kumubatanidzwa wehurumende. Saka ndinoshanda kuStatistics Canada, uye ndiri pazororo remubatanidzwa wenguva yakazara nekuti tine kondirakiti. Kana nhengo dzichindisarudzira chinzvimbo, kune kontrakiti yenguva yakazara, inoti, "Hei, hezvo waenda."
Uye ndizvo izvo vanhu vanofanira kunyatsonzwisisa kuti kana iwe uri kubasa uye iwe wakavharwa nechibvumirano chiri kukupa kodzero dzevanhu, icho chiri kukupa muripo wemubhadharo, zvese izvo, izvo mushandirwi anofanira kuremekedza. Ndosaka kuramba kupinza masangano mumabasa kwakanyanya, nekuti kana uine simba iroro semushandi, nekuti unenge uine chibvumirano chemubatanidzwa chinovhara zvese. Kana iwe uine iro simba, izvo zvinobvumira zvakanyanya. Ndine basa redzidzo. Saka chimwe chezvinhu izvo masangano anoita zvakanyanya idzidzo, kwete mushandirwi anofambiswa nekambani akaunza zvinhu izvo zvisingaite zvakanyanya kuvashandi zvachose. Asi kana tichiona masangano akaitwa makosi achatarisa kunyangwe makosi ari kutarisa kuvashandi kumabasa ehutano nekuchengetedza, ngatitange nehutano nekuchengetedza. Ndihwo hwaro.
Uye zvakare kubva kuhutano nekuchengetedzeka, kana tichizoti kodzero dzevashandi ikodzero dzevanhu, saka zvirokwazvo tichaunza makosi ekodzero dzevanhu zvakare, nekudzidzira basa nehutungamiriri, nekuti tinowana pakati pevashandi vedu. , vashandi vedu vakabatanidzwa, tinowana vanhu vanouya sevatungamiri vachada kutora basa iroro. Saka dzidzo yakakosha kusangano redu zvekuti ndinofara kuva nefaira iroro resangano revashandi reCanada. Uye zvakare hutano nekuchengetedzeka, ini ndinongori murwiri ane shungu. Saka ini ndine hutano nekuchengetedza nharaunda uye shanduko yemamiriro ekunze uye kubva ipapo, tinotarisa ramangwana rebasa. Zvose izvi zvirongwa zvekuita zvatichakurukura svondo rino pagungano iri. Uye kana ndikatarisa ramangwana rebasa, tobva tapinda mune kuti tiri kushandura sei vashandi kubva kuhupfumi sezvazviri nhasi, izvo hupfumi huri mushanduko.
Tinoziva kuti hupfumi huri mukuchinja, hupfumi huri kuchinja, asi vashandi vari kuchinja sei muhupfumi uhwu. Nezvevashandirwi vakawanda, vashandi ivavo havazoshanduki. Zvese zvakanaka. Hatizodzidzisi, hatigadzirire. Tichasveta kunze uye kubvisa zvakanyanya sezvatinogona. Uye kana pasina imwe dime ringagadzirwa, zvinosuwisa. Saka zvinosuwisa kuva iwe. Zvino hapana chawakawana.
Asi kana tichitarisa chirongwa chakanaka chekuchinja, tinoti kubva pakutanga, tinofanira kuronga, kana makore mashanu, kana makore gumi. Tichatora sei vashandi kubva pane A kusvika kunongedzo B? Zvino zvinoreva dzidzo. Zvinorevawo kuve nechokwadi chekuti kune avo vanhu vanoda kuchinja kubva kumabasa avari kuita uye kuenda kune chimwe chinhu, kuti vawane mikana yekuita izvozvo. Uye hurumende dzinofanirwa kuve nechekuita kuti dzibatsire mari iyo uye mari iyo. Uye ndosaka pano isu tine chirongwa cheinishuwarenzi yebasa yatiri kuyedza kusundidzira, uye zvichaitika chete kuburikidza nekubatana kwevashandi kusundidzira kuve nechokwadi chekuti chirongwa chedu cheinishuwarenzi chebasa chinobatsira kuvhara izvo zvinhu zvekuchinja. Ramangwana rebasa rinoreva AI. Izvozvo zvichakanganisa sei vanhu? Tekinoroji yanga iri muzvibvumirano zvakabatana sezvo zvibvumirano zvemubatanidzwa zvavepo.
Michina yokudhinda inoshanduka. Nzira dzekuita zvinhu dzinoshanduka. Auto assembly plant, zvese zvakashanduka. Isu tinodaidza iyo tekinoroji. Asi ikozvino tekinoroji yawedzera software neAI, uye tiri kuona mashandisirwo ari kuitwa AI pamhando yepurofiti. Uye ini handina purofiti yakawandisa…
Larry Rousseau:
Uye ini handina dambudziko rakawandisa nevanhu vari kuita purofiti, purofiti yakawandisa idambudziko, asi kana iwe ukashandisa aya mamodheru kuti uwane purofiti, semuenzaniso, AI, uye iwe unokanganwa nezvevashandi uye iwe unoda kutsiva vashandi, zvakanaka, ndipo apo vashandi vanofanira kunge vari patafura.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Hongu.
Larry Rousseau:
Nekuti tine mutemo watinoda kuona uchiuya kuHouse of Commons mumubatanidzwa, asi nenyika yose, kumapurovhinzi, kuti, “Patinenge tichitaura nezvetechnology, patiri kuenda. kutaura nezve AI, isu tinofanirwa kuve nechokwadi chekuti AI inoshandira vashandi. "
Maximillian Alvarez:
Rudyi. Zvakanaka, ndinoreva, isu tiri kuita hurukuro iyi muvhiki yechipiri yeVanyori Guild kuramwa.
Larry Rousseau:
Zvakanaka.
Maximillian Alvarez:
MuHollywood, handiti?
Larry Rousseau:
Ehe.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Hollywood screenwriters neWGA East neWest parizvino vari kuramwa. Ndichangobva kubvunzurudza mushandi kubva kuWGA East nezvenyaya iyi nekuti masitudiyo ari kutyisidzira kutsiva vamwe vanyori neAI, vobva vada kuti vashandi vauye vangobaya script yakagadzirwa neAI. Uye vashandi vanogona kuona kwete chete kuti izvi zvinorongera njodzi kwatiri pabasa redu, asi zvakare kuti izvi zvicharevei kune indasitiri yevaraidzo, kune hunyanzvi hwatinogadzira uye hwatinoisa mwoyo yedu nemweya mukati, zvichingodaro. mberi. Saka idambudziko chairo riri kutekeshera kumaindasitiri, kunyangwe kupfuura iwo atinowanzo funga nezvawo.
Uye ini ndaida kurongedza izvo nekukurumidza nekuti, uye handina iwe kwenguva yakawandisa, asi kubva ndasvika iwe pano uye sezvo iwe pachako wakava nebasa renhau rakadaro musangano muno muCanada, Tauya kuReal News Network, sezvamakataura pa30th Constitutional Convention kuCanada Labor Congress, tichiedza kutaura nevanhu nezve mamiriro esangano muno muCanada uye kuti tingatsigirana sei sevanhu vanoshanda mhiri. mitsara yepasi rose, kumativi ese, uye nzira dzese dzakamboyedzwa nevakuru kutipatsanura kare.
Asi ndinonzwa sekunge kuti ndinzwisise kukosha kwekuungana uku uye ndifunge nezve zvine hungwaru kuti basa rinoenda kupi kubva panguva ino, zvakakosha kufunga nezve patiri muchikamu chakakura chesangano revashandi. Nekuti muUnited States tinovhara izvi vhiki yega yega paChaiyo News. Nyaya yebasa rakarongeka ndiyo nyaya yekuderera izvozvi. Mubatanidzwa wedu density iri nani pamusoro pe10%. Ndakataura nevashandi mumaindasitiri mazhinji vakaita makumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakumi emakore ekubvumirana, asi ikozvino kunyanya mushure meCOVID, panoratidzika kunge paine mauto kana kufarira kutsva kwesangano kurwa nevashandi vaunoshanda navo kuti vagadzirise mamiriro ekushanda, mubhadharo uri nani pakati penguva. mutengo wedambudziko rekugara, pakati pese kushungurudzwa kwakaitwa nevashandi panguva yeCOVID. Wataura nezvekuchinja kwemamiriro ekunze, kuchikonzera nyonganyonga.
Mambure ekuchengetedza magariro evanhu ari kuparadzwa pamberi pemeso edu sezvo vanhu vachinetsekana kuti vawane chouviri. Saka ndaida kukubvunza, ndeipi nyaya iyo vanhu vanoona iyi mukati nekunze kweCanada vanofanira kuziva nezvebasa rakarongeka muCanada? Takasvika sei patiri uye chii chakakoshera nguva yatiri parizvino?
Larry Rousseau:
Zvakanaka, kana tikatarisa kuAI, nekuti wanga uchitaura nezveVanyori Guild, ngatigare tichirangarira chinhu chimwe. Paive nechinhu chimwe chekuti tekinoroji uye kuti makomputa haakwanise kuita. Uye izvo zvinotsiva tarenda rekunyora kwakanakisa kwatinogona kuona kubuda mazviri hazvina basa kuti kubva kuHollywood kusvika kuAbu Dhabi here kana kuti hazvina basa. Kwese kune vanyori, handifunge kuti kuchazombova neAI chirongwa chinozokwanisa kudzokorora nguva yeaha iyo munyori anowana. Uye ndipo pane tekinoroji ine kukanganisa kwayo. Zvakanaka? AI ichakwanisa kuita zvimwe zvinhu. Zvichava zvamazvirokwazvo. Asi sekushandura kwemuchina, uye ndine ruzivo muAI kubva mushanduro yemuchina. Ndakazviona pazvaive zvichitanga uye hatife takakwanisa kusvika padanho iroro asi zvakanaka seAI ichawana, haizombofa yakarova kukwana uko munhu asingafanirwe kupinda ongoenda pamusoro oti, "Ko izvi zvine musoro here?"
Zvakanaka? Iwe uchagara uchida chimiro chemunhu. Iwe uchagara uchida mumwe munhu kuti apindemo. Saka hongu, iwe unogona kuwana mumwe munhu kuti aite dhizaini, unogona kuwana AI kuti iite dhizaini. Zvese zvakanaka? Asi kudzokera shure uye kutaura kuti iwe uchava neAI uye tozotora firimu, handifungi kuti tiripo. Saka chatinofanira kuita kuzivisa vashandi zvakare kuti sekunge mushandirwi achakuudza kuti basa rauri kuita rinogona kutsiviwa neAI. Uye ini ndiri kutopinda mukuzvityaira, ndinoreva, kana ukatarisa, iyo yakakura muindasitiri yezvekufambisa izvozvi, asi pachagara paine buffer. Pachagara paine chikamu chauchazozvibvunza mubvunzo, zvakanaka, "Yakawanda sei?" Nekuti nzira yemushandirwi ndiyo mutengo wekuita bhizinesi? Vanhu vangani vatinokwanisa kurasikirwa navo? Murikunzwisisa zvandiri kureva here?
Maximillian Alvarez:
Ndapedza gore rapfuura nehafu ndichibvunzurudza mushandi wechitima mushure memushandi wechitima mushure memushandi wechitima vese vakandiudza chinhu chimwe chete, kuti vanga vachitarisana nekushomeka kwevashandi mumashopu emuchina, muzvitima zvinochengetedza njanji, uyezve. chii chatinowana? Tinowana njodzi dzakaita seEast Palestine, Ohio.
Larry Rousseau:
Nekuti chii chinoitika ndechekuti iwe unofanirwa kugara uchiyeuka kuti mukutyaira kune purofiti, isu tiri kuenda pasi kune yakaderera denominator sekureva kwemhando. Uye senzanga, tinofanira kuzvibvunza kuti, "Tinoda hunhu hwakadii senzanga kuti munhu wese arambe aine hutano uye akachengeteka," kusiyana nekutaura, "Tinokwanisa kushivirira hunhu hwakadii kuti tiite purofiti. kuti makambani anoda kuti mari ienderere mberi? Iyi igakava rehuzivi hunokosha. Kana isu tiri nzanga yakavakirwa zvachose pamari chete, saka isu ticharova madziro uye iyo madziro ichave yakaoma kwazvo madziro kurova.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Uye ndinonzwa kutendeseka, tiri kuona mhando yemagariro uye ezvematongerwo enyika mhedzisiro yevakawanda vanoshanda vanhu vachirova madziro uye nekuona kuti ivo vanogara vasina basa rekuita basa ravo. Havakwanisi kubhadhara rendi, havagoni kuchengeta denga ipapo uye misoro yemhuri yavo kana indasitiri yavo iri kuderera. Njanji, seHollywood, ndinoreva, isu tese tiri kusangana nemaitiro aya nenzira dzedu uye ichokwadi mubvunzo kwatiri sesangano rekuti tichazadzisa sei izvo zvinonetsa, izvo zvinodiwa, isu tichasimuka sei kusvika chiitiko chenguva iyi inokosha yatiri mairi?
Nekuti kune mamwe mauto ari kurwira rutsigiro rwevanhu vanoshanda, kusanganisira vari kure right reactionary movements vari kutaura nekurwadziwa kwevanhu vanoshanda, asi pamwe varikudzosera kwakanangana, handizive, ngochani uye vanhu vanotapurirana kana vanobva kune dzimwe nyika kana zvinhu. saizvozvo. Uye zvakare, kunyange vanhu vari kushanda, vanhu vanotenda musimba rebasa rakarongeka, zvichida vakanzwa vavharirwa kunze kwebasa rakarongeka munguva yakapfuura kana kuti vanonzwa vakabviswa kubva kune mamwe masangano evanhu. Saka ndinofungidzira nemaminetsi mashoma ekupedzisira andakuwanira, ndanga ndichida kubvunza kuti isu sesangano revashandi muCanada uye nepasirese tinodzidza sei kubva mukukanganisa kwakapfuura, kunyatsosimuka kusangana nechiitiko ichi?
Larry Rousseau:
Ndinofara kuti mataura izvozvo. Ndine sekuru vaigara vachindiudza kuti, "Kana usingazive nhoroondo yako, hauzive kuti ndiwe ani." Ngatirangarirei kumashure kwatinogona kuenda muhurongwa hwazvino hwatiripo, inova hurongwa hwakavakirwa pakugadzira capital uye kuwedzera capital, hakuna kumbove nehutongi hwekurudyi kana hurongwa hwematongerwo enyika hwakabatsira basa. class. Wekutanga. Saka ngatigarei tichirangarira kuti kana tikatarisa kurudyi, tinopofomadzwa kana kuti tine mapofu panyaya yekuita mari nekuti kure kure kunopa kusakara uku tese tichazopfuma. Uye izvozvo hazvisi zvechokwadi. Chokwadi chemamiriro ezvinhu ndechekuti kugovaniswazve kwehupfumi kunoreva kuti isu tese tinogona kunge takasununguka sezvinobvira mukati menzira dzehupfumi.
Saka ngatirangarirei kuti kana taziva izvozvo, tinofanira kunzwisisa simba renhamba muutongi hwezvido zvevanhu. Tinofanira kuziviswa uye tinofanira kuvhota. Nekuti kana vanhu vasingafungi kuti kuvhota kwakakosha, ndizvo chaizvo izvo bapiro rekurudyi rinoda kuti uite izvo. Kana iwe ukasateerera kuti ndiani anopasisa mutemo, izvo zviri kunditadzisa kubatana. Zvakanaka, kana mutemo uri kunditadzisa kuva nerusununguko rwekuita zvandinoda kuita kuti mamiriro angu ave nani, zvakanaka, zviri pandiri kana ndisina kuenda kunovhota. Ndinoziva kuti vanhu havadi kuzvinzwa, asi vanhu vanofanira kuzvinzwa uye tinofanira kuvhota. Uye kune mavhoti arikuuya kwete muUnited States chete, asi muno muCanada. Uye vashandi vanofanirwa kuronga uye vashandi vanofanirwa kuungana kuti vave nechokwadi chekuti sezvatinovhota, tinosundira zvinhu zvakanyanya kuvashandi, vanova vepakati, izvo zvinoreva zvakawanda kune wese, kwete kune vashoma chete.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Hongu, ndinoreva, ndinobvumirana nazvo. Ndinoreva, nekuti ndinofunga kuti dambudziko nderekuti kana tafunga kuti sarudzo ndiwo magumo ese ese ekuita kwezvematongerwo enyika nekuti tinenge tichipa sarudzo kune vakasarudzwa. Uye izvo zvine basa mukuumba mamiriro atinorarama nekushanda paari sezvamakataura.
Larry Rousseau:
Tinofanira kuvachengeta vachizvidavirira chero isu tine hurongwa hwekuti tine vezvematongerwo enyika vanokwanisa kupa mutemo uye tinoziva kuti ndiani ari kukurudzira vezvematongerwo enyika zvakanyanya. Zvakanaka? Nesuwo tinogona kudaro. Uye tinozviita kumusoro kuno. Tine mazuva ekutambira pachikomo muHouse of Commons. Saka tinoita izvozvo. Asi chero bedzi tine hurongwa hwezvematongerwo enyika hunofambisa kukwanisa kwedu kuvandudza hupenyu hwedu mune zvehupfumi, zvemagariro evanhu, nezvimwewo, zvakanaka, tinofanira kubatanidzwa mune izvo zvematongerwo enyika uye chiito chezvematongerwo enyika chikamu cheboka revashandi. Haisi yekungobatana chete, hazvisi zvezvibvumirano zvakabatana zvehutano nekuchengetedza nekuti hurongwa hwezvematongerwo enyika hunofambisawo maitiro atinoita izvozvo. Ndinofanira kuenda.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Thanks murume.
Larry Rousseau:
Ndokutenda zvikuru.
Nicholas Marcus Thompson:
Ini ndinonzi Nicholas Marcus Thompson uye ndiwo mafambiro andinoenda nezita rangu rizere. Saka hongu, ndiNicholas Marcus Thompson. Ini ndiri mukuru wesangano risingaite purofiti rinonzi Black Class Action Secretariat, iro rakapika mushure mekunge vashandi varonga uye kumhan'ara danho rekirasi vachipokana nemubatanidzwa wese wehurumende yeCanada. Kusarura kwevatema, kunyanya kutadza kuhaya uye kutadza kusimudzira vashandi vatema zvichienderana nerudzi rwavo.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Zvakanaka, Nicholas, ndinokutendai zvikuru nekugara pasi uye kutaura nesu paReal News Network. Ndinotenda chaizvo. Zvamazvirokwazvo, takagara pano paAction Network 10 pamusangano wechimakumi matatu weConstitutional Convention weCanadian Labour Congress uye tanga tichitaura nevanhu vakawanda sezvatinogona, tichidzidza nepatinogona napo pamusoro pemamiriro esangano revashandi. . Zviri kuitika kune vatinoshanda navo muno muCanada uye matambudziko api avari kuita, uye pakupedzisira kuti isu tiri muUnited States nekumhiri tingamira sei mukubatana nevanin'ina vedu mhiri kwemuganhu weCanada nekumhiri. Uye iyi nyaya ndeyechokwadi, yakakosha uye ndinokutendai chaizvo nekugara pasi uye kutaura nesu nezvazvo nekuti ini ndinoda chaizvo vataridzi venhau nevateereri kuti vanzwisise zvatiri kutaura nezvazvo pano.
Ndinoreva, iyi kirasi yevatema danho rekuita uye nekupindura kune yakadzika systemic rusarura uye rusarura iyo vashandi vatema muCanada vanotarisana nayo, zvinosiririsa kutaura kuti ndinofanira kufungidzira vanhu vakati wandei muUS vachangonzwa nezve izvi kune kekutanga. Uye saka ndinoda kuve nechokwadi chekuti vane ruzivo rwese rwakakosha nezvekudzika kwakaita izvi, kwakabva mafambiro ekugadzirisa kusarongeka uku uye kuti yakakura sei uye ibasa ripi rawakaita mune izvozvo. Saka ndinofungidzira, tidzoserei kumavambo. Tidzosere kwazvakatanga kufamba kuti ndione uye nditaure nezve systemic rusaruraganda uye kuti hwakanga hwakaipa sei uye ndizvo here?
Nicholas Marcus Thompson:
Ngatidzokerei kumashure.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Zvakanaka.
Nicholas Marcus Thompson:
Uye kuti iwe nevaoni vako munzwisise, isu tinofanirwa kudzokera kumashure. Ndichakudzosera kumashure kuma1600s. Saka vanhu vatema vave muCanada kwemakore anopfuura mazana mana. Iri rimwe remapoka akareba kwazvo ane rusarura anga ari muCanada. Uye kubva pakutanga apo vanhu vatema vakaunzwa pano sevanhu nhapwa, nekufamba kwenguva, vanhu vatema vakatarisana nekudzvinyirirwa kukuru muCanada. Apo uranda hwakabviswa, mitemo yakadzikwa yaidzivisa kutora rutivi kuzere kwavatema vokuCanada. Kana tikatsanya kuenda kuHondo Yenyika yekutanga, vanhu vatema vaida kushandira Canada. Vakaedza kunyoresa Canada ndokuvaudza kuti iyi ihondo yevarungu.
Vakazobvumira vanhu vatema vashoma kuti vashande muHondo Yenyika, asi ruzhinji rwakarambwa. Uye vakazopedzisira vaumba battalion nhema, battalion yekuvaka. Saka zvaireva kuti vanhu vatema vazhinji, vaisakwanisa kurwa pamwe chete nemauto evarungu. Vakaregedzerwa kuchera migero, kubvisa zvimbambaira, kutema miti. Uye ndizvo chaizvo, kukurumidza kuenda mberi makore zana gare gare, anopfuura makore zana gare gare, ndipo chaipo apo vanhu vatema vanoramba vachichera migero. Uye izvo zvichiri basa rakakosha mubasa reCanada. Uye saka nekufamba kwenguva, masisitimu akagadzirwa nekuti vanhu vatema vaionekwa sevasina munhu, vasina kukwana. Uye nekufamba kwenguva, masisitimu aya anoenderera mberi.
Iye zvino tave nayo nenzira yeCanada, haina kujeka, yakavharika ikozvino, iri nekunyemwerera. Zviri pamwe, ndiri kutevera maitiro. Zvinoenderana nemutemo unotaura izvi, uye isu tiri kutevera mutemo. Saka Canada yave nenhoroondo inodzvanyirira vanhu vatema. Uye hazvina kuwirirana nemabatirwo azvakaita. Vanhu vanga vari pano, vakagara pano, vakatora chikamu zvizere, vakabatsira, vakabatsira kuvaka Canada musimba rehupfumi iro riri kutarisana nekudzvinyirirwa kukuru kubva kuvanhu veCanada, kubva kuhurumende yeCanada, nyika yakatsigira rusarura uye rusarura nekuti zviri kuitika mudunhu. mwero nemaune uye mune zvimwe zviitiko usingazivi. Saka nekukurumidza kumberi kuna 2020 sekupondwa kwaGeorge Floyd muUS.
Uye isu takanyatsonzwa kurwadziwa ikoko, takabatanidza nekutambura ikoko nekuti takanga tine ibvi rehupfumi pamitsipa yedu. Saka kwenguva yakareba takanga tisingagoni kufema. Uye isu takamira takabatana nemhuri yaFloyd uye maAmerican uye vagari vepasi rose kuti vasimuke nekufora nekuratidzira. Uye pandakatungamira kuratidzira muToronto uye ndakatarisa-tarisa ndikaona marudzi ese akasiyana kamwechete munhoroondo yenguva achitsigira vanhu vatema. Uye zvakauya kwandiri ndikati, "Zvakanaka, ko kana tiine tsigiro iyi kwatinogona kuwana shanduko yekubvisa ibvi pamitsipa yedu munzira dzese?" Uye ndakave nemufungo uyu uye pfungwa yaive yekuti, "Kuratidzira uku kuchapera uye zvinhu zvichadzokera kune zvakajairika uye hapana chichachinja.
Saka toshandisa sei rutsigiro urwu izvozvi kuedza kuunza shanduko inobatika? " Akanga ari 2020 panguva iyoyo, uye hapana chaichinja kuvanhu vatema. Kwaingove kupfekwa nenzira yekuCanada. Uye Canada inozivikanwa pasi rose sechiedza chetariro. Nyika inobudirira ne multiculturalism uye kusiyana-siyana uye kubatanidza kugamuchira. Uye inondiyeuchidza nezveimwe dhipatimendi rehurumende, kuti bhodhi rekubvakacha nevapoteri, rinogamuchira vapoteri vanobva kumativi ose enyika. Uye pano une maneja wechichena achiudza mushandi wechitema, "Tinofanira kudzokera kumazuva akanaka ekare kwataiva nevaranda."
Ndiyo Canada, asi haisi iyo Canada yatinotarisira, yatinorota, yatinoziva kuti ine mukana wekuve. Saka panguva iyoyo tichiratidzira, ndanga ndakatsunga kuti taifanira kutora imwe mhando yechiito chinobatika kuti tiunze shanduko huru nekuti taisazowana mukana wekuzviita zvakare. Saka ndakatanga kutarisa kunzvimbo dzedu dzebasa. Panguva iyoyo, ndaishandirwa neCanada Revenue Agency. Iyo agency ine basa rekutonga mutero weCanada, mutero weexcise uye mimwe mitemo. Chaizvoizvo, iyo mitero yenyika. Inotarisira mabhiriyoni nemabhiriyoni emadhora. Ndiro chete mari inounganidza muzinda wehurumende. Uye zvakanyanya, angangoita munhu wese weCanada anofanirwa kubata neizvi, imwe yematare ehurumende iyo munhu wese weCanada anofanira kupfuura neimwe nzira kana imwe.
Uye pamushandirwi uyu, kune vashandi vangangosvika zviuru makumi mashanu nemazana evatariri. Uye kune vangangoita mumwe kana vaviri vatungamiriri vatema uye kashoma chero vanhu vatema vari munzvimbo yekutonga. Uye isu tanga tichiedza kugadzirisa gaka rakakura kubva kuvashandi vekupinda chikamu vanonyanya kuve vatema kusvika kune manejimendi uye humwe hutungamiriri uye kuve nemikana. Tine panguva iyoyo, taive nevashandi vaivepo for 50,000 years, no promotion, vachiri pa entry level position, vanobvisa pension yavo is based on their best years. Uye chakanyanya kurwadza ndechekuti ava vaive vakadzi vazhinji. Uye kana ndikatarisa-tarisa ndichiona zviso zvakaita samai vangu, ambuya vangu uye kusava nemweya uye kusava netariro muzviso zvavo, ndakaziva kuti taifanira kuita chimwe chinhu pamusoro pazvo.
Saka ndakanyorera komisheni weCRA ndikati, “Hei, tine dambudziko guru pano. Wapa chirevo uchitaura nezve anti-vatema rusarura muUS uye pfungwa dzako dzanga dziri kuUS asi isu tine dambudziko hombe muno muCanada, uye kutuka kuti hausi kubvuma izvozvo uye kuri kukonzera kukuvadza kwakawanda. tinoda kuti mugadzirise nyaya iyi." Uye saka vakagadzira boka rebasa kuti ritarise nyaya yacho. Pane vanhu vangangosvika makumi mashanu vari pabasa uye munhu mutema mumwe chete. Uye kana iwe-
Maximillian Alvarez:
Zvakadaro pamhuno, handitombozivi kuti ndoita sei, asi neni.
Nicholas Marcus Thompson:
Uye kana iwe uchitarisa pairi, paunotarisa maminetsi, izvi hazvifanirwe kunge zviri zvekurwisa-vatema rusarura. Ngatitaure pamusoro pemhando dzose dzerusarura ikozvino. Saka yakaienzanisa nemaitiro ehupenyu hwese uye haina kutaura zvakanangana nerusaruro rwevatema. Uye ndakazonyorera kuna Minister of National Revenue, "Ndine dambudziko pano, mungatibatsira here?" Ipapo ndakanyorera munyori wePrivy Council mukuru wevashandi vehurumende, "Tine dambudziko rekurwisa rusaruraganda pano, mungatibatsira here?" Ndakabva ndanyorera kuna Prime Minister, "Munogona kutibatsira here?"
Ipapo ndakati, “Munoziva chii, regai ndiedze…” Panguva iyoyo ndakanga ndiri mutungamiri akasarudzwa mumubatanidzwa wangu, Public Service Alliance yeCanada, mubatanidzwa mukurusa, mubatanidzwa wehurumende. Uye ini ndikati, "Hei, tine dambudziko kuCRA nekusarura kwevatema. Mungatibatsirewo here?” Asi tisati taenda kuCRA, tisati tarwa izvi zvekunze, tine dambudziko mumubatanidzwa.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Rudyi.
Nicholas Marcus Thompson:
Mubatanidzwa wedu haumiriri nhengo dzedu uye hapana zvakakwana zviri kuitwa kuona kuti vatema nerusaruraganda vari kuendeswa mberi kana kudzidziswa kana kutsigirwa. Nhengo dzedu hadzizvioni dziri mumubatanidzwa wedu, uye dzinoona mubatanidzwa wedu seusingatsigiri nyaya dzekuenzanisa, kwete kutimiririra. Saka vanomira kure nekuti vatotarisana nezvipingaidzo zvakakwana uye rusaruraganda munzvimbo yebasa kuti vapinde mumubatanidzwa kuti varwe ikoko zvakare. Haasi munhu wese anogona kuzviita, handiti?
Uye panguva iyoyo, ndakanga ndichinzwa kubva kuvashandi vakanga vachida kuzviuraya, vakanga vari pazororo rokurwara kwenguva refu. Nyanzvi dzakatiudza kuti rusarura rwunokanganisa sei huropi hwako, kuti hunokanganisa sei kuvabereki vako, hupenyu hwako hwemagariro, kuti hunoita sei kuti uropi hwako hufambe neimwe nzira. Saka ndanga ndichitaura nevashandi vese ava uye mhinduro yandakawana kubva kumubatanidzwa yakanga isingaenderane nekukurumidzira kwaiitwa nevashandi.
Ndaisaziva kuti ndoita sei, asi ndaiziva kuti ndaifanira kuita chimwe chinhu. Saka ndakabata horo yedhorobha uye ndaingoda kuwana nzvimbo yekupa vashandi foramu yekuunza ruzivo kuvatungamiriri kune izvo nhengo dzavo nevashandi vari kutarisana nazvo. Saka ndakaunza vashandi, ndakaunza mudzidzisi anopesana nerusarura, ndakaunza murapi nekuti chikamu chedambudziko zvakare, kana vashandi vachienda kuchirongwa chekubatsira mushandirwi uye kunyunyuta, vari kusangana nerusaruro, kazhinji murungu anopa zano. woti, “Zvakanaka, kusarura hakuna. Ipfungwa dzako dzekuti uri kusarurwa.” Havagoni kuita izvozvo zvichikonzera kumwe kukuvadza.
Saka kubva panguva iyoyo zvichienda mberi, tine vanhu vese ava muhoro yedhorobha, uye ndakakokawo gweta nekuti ndaiziva kuti pane zvakakosha zvemutemo uye ndaida kuti vashandirwi nemubatanidzwa uzive kuti une chisungo chepamutemo pano ita chimwe chinhu. Uye ndaida nyanzvi yezvemitemo kuti itaure nezvazvo uye neimwe nzira yakafamba zvakanaka. Uye mushure maizvozvo, gweta rakandidaidza ndokuti, "Hei Nicholas, une chimwe chinhu pano." Uye anoti, "Pane zvakawanda zvekuregeredza pa-
Nicholas Marcus Thompson:
Pane zvakawanda zvekushaya hanya pamushandirwi nekudivi remubatanidzwa. Uye iro gweta, Courtney Betty, aimbova muchuchisi weCrown, uye akashanda kuDhipatimendi reJustice, ainyatsonzwisisa mashandiro ehurongwa uhu. Uye kubva ipapo takatanga kuongorora kutora matanho emutemo. Dambudziko redu guru raive rekutsvaga nzira yekuzviunza pamberi pedare, nekuti sevashandi vemubatanidzwa, munofanirwa kushandisa nzira yekunyunyuta, Canadian Human Rights Commission kana chero nzira dziri mukati mehurongwa hwevashandi. Iwe haugone kungoenda kumatare. Pane chikumbaridzo cheizvozvo. Uye takazoona kuti pane dingindira rakafanana, uye dingindira rakajairika mumakesi ese raive rusaruraganda rwaiitika, asi rwaive rwakatenderedza vashandi, handiti? Nzira yevashandi yakashandiswa kusabvisa boka rimwe uye kupa rubatsiro rwakanyanya kune vamwe.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Saka izvi zvese, ndinofungidzira, maererano nekubhadhara, ndiani anopihwa basa uye ndiani asingadaro?
Nicholas Marcus Thompson:
Ruramisa.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Uye ndiani anokwidziridzwa uye ndiani asingakudzwe?
Nicholas Marcus Thompson:
Ndizvozvo. Ehe. Saka zvazvinoreva kumunhu mutema ndezvekuti unogona kunge wakakwanirisa, ukanyorera, vanowana nzira yekukuvheneka, kana kuti vangawana nzira yekupa mikana yekuita zvinzvimbo zvepamusoro kune vamwe vashandi, vachikudziridza. ivo vari muhurongwa, vachivagadzirira kuti kana poster yabuda, vave neruzivo rwekuinyorera. Iwe haugone kana kunyorera nekuti hauna kana ruzivo rwekuita. Saka vanokwanisa kukugadzirira uye kugadzira posita kune izvo zvinodiwa pakushanda. Uye hurumende yevashandi yevashandi vehurumende, yakawanda ndeye discretionary.
Saka basa rehurumende rinonyanya kushandisa hutongi hwevashandi kusimudzira mapoka asiri evatema, kusimudzira vashandi vachena, kusimudzira vashandi vachena vachibhadhara vashandi veVatema. Uye ndizvo chaizvo zviri kuitika nyaya iyi. Zvinoreva kuti kuzviuru zvevashandi veVatema kubva 1970 zvichienda mberi, ndiyo nguva yedu yekutanga, vakatarisana nerusarura rwehurongwa muvashandi vehurumende. Uye patakanga tichienda, takazogadzirisa nyaya iyi, ndokubva ndatanga kutaura nevashandi kunze kweCRA. Ndakatenderera kumadhipatimendi akasiyana uye ndainzwa chinhu chimwe chete kubva kuvashandi, maturusi chaiwo uye mashandisirwo aakaitwa. Saka yanga isiri iyo CRA chete, yaive Treasury Board yeCanada. Yakanga iri Canadian Human Rights Commission kwaunomhan'ara, iyo chete sangano rinofanirwa kuve rinoera uye rinopesana nerusarura, vashandi vekomisheni iyi vakandiudza kuti vakatarisana nerusarura. Uye zvichemo zverudzi, kana komisheni inogamuchira zvichemo zvemarudzi, izvo zvinorambwa zvisina mwero zvichienzaniswa nezvimwe zvichemo. Iwoyo mwero wepamusoro-soro wekudzingwa wezvichemo zverudzi.
Uye kuti hutungamiriri hwekomisheni hwakafanana kwese kwese muvashandi vehurumende, Vatema uye vane rusaruraganda, vamwe vanosarudzika kumusoro kuno, uye hutungamiriri hwachena. Ndakaenda kunharaunda yehungwaru, zvimwe chetezvo, mapurisa, vezvemitemo, zvimwe chetezvo. Chaizvoizvo ese masangano aiita anti-vatema rusarura. Uye yakanyudzwa zvakadzama muhurongwa hwavo hwese. Zvakanga zvave zvakajairika, mamiriro ezvinhu. Ndipo ndipo patakazofunga kuwedzera chikumbiro kumubatanidzwa wese wehurumende, pamusoro pemadhipatimendi nemasangano uye masangano ekorona.
Uye isu takaongorora Employment Equity Act. Uye heino maitiro, ichi ndicho chikamu chemutemo chinoshandiswa nemushandirwi kuti asabatanidze vashandi veVatema. Mutemo uyu wakagadzirwa muna 1976, wakatenderwa muna'77. Uye inogadzira kuchengetedzwa kwemapoka, vakadzi, vanhu vemunharaunda, vashoma vanooneka, uye vanhu vakaremara. Inoshanda zvakanaka kuvakadzi, asi vakadzi vachena, kunyanya vakadzi vachena. Uye isu tinofara kuona vakadzi vava kupfuura 50% yevashandi vehurumende, handiti? Takanga tisina izvozvo kare. Uye kupfuura 50% yehutungamiriri zvakare. Saka izvo zvinoshamisa. Asi vakadzi veBlack havasi ivo vanowana mubairo weboka revakadzi iro kana maIndigenous. Kungoti madzimai echichena abatsirikana nechikamu ichocho.
Uye chikamu chevadiki vanoonekwa vanoisa boka rega rega rerusaruraganda, saka kana usiri veIndigenous kana usiri muchena, uri muchikamu ichi. Uye hapana anotsanangurwa imomo. Saka kuti tisangane nekuenzana kwebasa, kana paine mukaha wevashoma vanooneka, ndinogona kusarudza chero boka. Saka kana ndichida, ndinogona kutora chiChinese nguva dzose uye ndiri kusangana kana kudarika vashoma vangu vanoonekwa, ndakatora vashoma vanooneka. Saka vashandi vehurumende neCRA vagara vachindiudza kuti, “Nicholas, tiri kutevera mutemo. Mutemo unoti sarudza vashoma vanooneka uye isu takatora vashoma vanooneka. Hazvitauri chinhu pamusoro peMutema. Kana iwe uchida kuti izvi zvigadziriswe, unofanirwa kushandura Employment Equity Act. " Ndizvo zvavakandiudza.
Saka takazvigadzika panzira yekudzikisa kuenzana kwemabasa nekuti mashandisirwo airi kuitwa, nekuti haina kunyatsotsanangurwa, mashandisirwo airi kuitwa kuri kurangwa, zvichibvumira rusarura kuvanhu vatema. Sevashandirwi vemubatanidzwa vane boka ravanoda kune vashoma vanooneka, chero wainoti ndiye anoshanda nesimba, mushandi ane njere, asiri ane nungo mushandi. Zvino kana boka iroro rerusaruraganda rapinda, vanoenderera mberi nekuenderera mberi nechimiro chiripo. Uye mune zvimwe zviitiko, vanova nechokwadi chekuti vanhu veboka ravo vanotevera. Saka ndaona pane mutungamiriri wedhipatimendi iri rudzi urwu uye munhu wese ari mudhipatimendi rudzi irworwo kana ruzhinji rwevanhu. Saka tiri kuda kudonhedza chikamu ichocho chechiitiko nekuti tinotenda kuti mashandisirwo azviri kuitwa, zvinopokana neChinyorwa 15-2 cheCharter of Rights and Freedoms maererano nerusarura.
Saka tiri pamusangano wevatori venhau uye nhepfenyuro yenyika, CBC, yakatakura nyaya. December 4 iri kubuda. Ndiri pamberi pekamera, ndinotya, ndisingazivi kuti ndakanga ndichinyoreswa chii, asi ndaiziva kuti taifanira kuita chimwe chinhu nezvazvo. Nyaya yacho yakabva yaparara. Takaisa chikumbiro. Uye kunzi chii? Tiri kutsvaga shanduko dzenhoroondo dzemaitirwo ebasa redu reveruzhinji, kuti vashandi vanoshanda sei. Tinoda kuona kuti basa redu rehurumende rakasimba uye rinobudirira. Parizvino une vanhu vazhinji vakuvara vachiratidza kushanda, vachishandira vanhu vekuCanada mune zvishoma nekuda kwerusarura rwavanosangana narwo munzvimbo yebasa, kusaita nepavanogona napo.
Saka isu tinoda kugadzira basa reveruzhinji rakasimba uko munhu wese anosanganisirwa uye kwaunokwanisa kusvika kwaunokwanisa kuzere, kungave kuri kuzasi kana kwepakati-level kana kumusoro, chero kupi. Uye iwe unozokwanisa kuzadzisa kugona kwako kwakazara zvichienderana nekukodzera kana izvo zvaunounza patafura. Uye ndiro basa revanhu ratiri kurwira. Ndiro basa rehurumende ratiri kuda. Ndizvo zvinodaidzwa neCanada kuva. Saka isu tiri kubata Canada ichizvidavirira kumufananidzo kuti iri kuyedza kuratidza nyika kuti ndizvo. Saka ibasa rakaoma chairo uye kutsunga kwakawanda uye ziya neropa kuti tisvike ikoko, asi tinoziva kuti zvinogoneka.
Saka tiri kutsvaga zvigadziriso kuEmployment Equity Act. Isu tinotenda kuti nzira chete yekugadzirisa dambudziko iri pamudzi wekonzero kugadzirisa Mutemo weEmployment Equity, kubvisa vashandi veVatema muchikamu cherusarura apo vanenge vachisiiwa nguva dzose uye kugadzira boka idzva rakasarudzwa. Uye ndiyo chete nzira yaunokwanisa kugadzirisa nyaya yekusabviswa kwevashandi veBlack. Saka ikozvino chii chiri muchikamu chakasiyana chakasiyana, vashandirwi vachafanira kutarisa kuti vaone kana paine chaizvo gaka reBlack munzvimbo yebasa vobva vagadza anokwanisa, kwete munhu nekuti ivo vatema, handizvo zvatiri kuyedza kuita. ita. Sarudza munhu ane hunyanzvi, ane hunyanzvi hweMutema kuti azadze gap iri.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Murume, ndinoreva, ichi ibasa rinoshamisa, zvese maererano nehukuru uye kukura kwedambudziko. Uye ndinoreva, isu muUnited States hatisi vatorwa kune systemic anti-Black rusarura. Asi zvino kudzidza pamwero wevashandi vese vehurumende yevashandi vehurumende vanodzokera shure makore makumi mashanu uye vachiedza kuzvidavirira uye kuyananisira nekugadzirisa. Ndinoreva, ndizvo zvinoreva reparations, handiti? Kugadzirisa izvo zvakapwanyika uye avo vakaputswa neiyi isina kukanganisa, rusaruraganda, yakaipa system inoda kugadziriswa. Ndiri kushamisika kuti unotora sei basa rekuzvidavirira kune zvese izvo uye kurwira kwete kungogadzirisa nyaya dziri mukati memaitiro ekuhaya uye Employment Equity Act, asi zvakare kubhadhara vanhu vakabatwa neizvi. Uye ini ndaida kubvunza nezve iro divi rezvinhu uye kuti mamiriro emhosva ari papi uye nerutsigiro rwupi, ndeipi mhinduro yawakawana kubva kuhurumende uye kubva kunharaunda yevashandi?
Nicholas Marcus Thompson:
Iyi mibvunzo inokosha zvikuru. Zvakanaka, ngatitange kubva kumusoro. Mhosva yakamirira kupihwa chitupa. Saka ndicho chipingamupinyi chekutanga chemutemo. Ndiko uko dare rinoona kana richisangana netsanangudzo yechiito chekirasi, kwete zvakanyanya mukukodzera kwenyaya, asi kana iine kirasi yakajairika, kana zviri pachena izvi zvisina kutsanangurwa uye chii uye kuti inosangana netsanangudzo yechiitiko chekirasi. . Kunzwa uku kwakarongwa muna Gumiguru gore rino. Ehe, hurumende inogona kubvuma kune icho chitupa uye kutitendera kuti tienderere mberi, ivo havana. Chinzvimbo chavo chave chakasiyana zvachose mudare redzimhosva pane paruzhinji. Paruzhinji, mazhinji emasangano akabvuma kuti ane systemic rusarura. Prime Minister akabvuma izvozvo kakawanda. Nguva pfupi yapfuura pane zvakawanwa neTreasury Board yeCanada kuti Canadian Human Rights Commission yakasarura vashandi vayo Vatema uye vane rusaruraganda.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Izvo zvinongondibhowa. VeCanada, ndine hurombo, ndinoziva kuti mataura izvi kare uye ndaizvibata, asi Human Rights Commission inofanirwa kunge iripo kuchengetedza kodzero dzevanhu, mukati mehofisi yekomisheni iyoyo, vari kuita shit imwe chete. .
Nicholas Marcus Thompson:
Uye zvinongoenda kukuratidza kuti dambudziko rakaipa sei. Vaya vakaronzeswa kuchengetedza kodzero dzevanhu vaityora kodzero dzevanhu pasina hanya nezvavaisungirwa. Saka kana Human Rights Commission yaiita izvi, fungidzira kwese kwese kwevashandi vehurumende, kana kumusoro, bhenekeri retariro raive rusarura kune vashandi veBlack uye kwese kwese kuri kutarisa kune komisheni kuti iwane gwara uye rubatsiro, kutungamira uye hutungamiriri. , hurongwa hwakakundikana zvachose vashandi veVatema uye vashandi veVatema havana chivimbo nemasangano edu emubatanidzwa, havavimbi nemasangano edu ekugadzirisa kuburikidza nemaitiro evashandi uye vanoona dare senzvimbo chete yekukwanisa kugadzirisa mamiriro ezvinhu aya.
Muripo unoramba uri chikamu chakakosha chezvatiri kutsvaga. Saka hatisi kungotsvaga shanduko dzemutemo kuti dzigadzirise zvazvino neramangwana, asi panofanirwa kuve nemishonga inogadzirisa zvakakanganisika. Vakazviitira mamwe mapoka, kunharaunda yeLGBT, uye isu hatisi kukumbira chero chinhu chitsva. Wakabvuma kuti kune rusaruro, kune kukuvadzwa, uye kurwadziwa uye kutambura kwarunoita ndekwechokwadi. Vakadaro Prime Minister. Asi neizvi zvese, waparadza hupenyu hwakawanda, michato, mhuri, mhedzisiro yechizvarwa.
Ndinoramba ndichirangarira Carol, ndiye mumwe wevanhu vakauya. Aenda pamudyandigere, achigara mufurati repasi, asingakwanise kuwana chouviri mushure mekushandira nyika ino nesimba kweanopfuura makore makumi maviri. Zvakadini nevashandi vose ivavo? Hurombo huchakwana here kune hupenyu hwese hwawakaparadza? The impact pavana vavo uyezve vana vevana vavo. Unongodzoka sei manje woti, “Takapasisa mutemo uye tagadzirisa dambudziko iri. Uye wakataura zvinhu zvese izvi zvakanaka, asi waparadza makumi ezviuru ehupenyu hwevanhu vatema nenharaunda dzavanogara uye tsika yavo uye kugona kwavo kutora chikamu zvizere sevagari vemuCanada. Saka panofanirwa kuve nemishonga yekugadzirisa izvo zvinokuvadza, izvo zvakadzika, zvakadzika kukuvara.
Saka tiri kutsvaga kugadzirisa nyaya kubva kare kuti tipe muripo kune avo vakakuvadzwa, kugadzirisa ikozvino nekugadzirisa masystem kubva kumudzi, hapana bandaid solutions. Tiri kutsvaga kugadzirisa pane chikonzero. Saka ngatiti kana mushandirwi angave ane rusarura rwakadii, anofanira kutevedzera mutemo. Kana vakasadaro, tinogona kuvaita kuti vazvidavirire. Vaisakwanisa kuhwanda kuseri kwechero chikamu voti, “Zvakanaka, takahaya munhu ane rusaruraganda” saka vasangana nazvo. Ivo havangakwanise kuita chero cheizvozvo kana isu tiine kuchengetedzwa kwemutemo kwakakodzera.
Uye isu tinodawo kuona kuti pane proportional inomiririra. Kana nharaunda yeVatema ikaita huwandu uhu hwevanhu, izvo zvinofanirwa kuratidzwa mubasa rehurumende pamatanho ese. Uye tinofanira kudaro, ndakatanga nekukuudza nhoroondo yevanhu vatema muCanada. Kwose ikoku kunofanira kuva mukati menhau iyoyo refu yokudzvinyirira. Saka hakusi kurapwa kwakakosha kwatiri kutsvaga, isu tiri kutsvaga kuenzana kuburikidza nekuenzanisa. Hapana zvekupihwa, asi wakatikuvadza, saka iwe unofanirwa kutitsiva nekuda kweizvozvo, uyezve iwe unofanirwa kumira kutikuvadza. Ndozvatiri kutsvaga kuita neBlack class action.
Uye chimwe chikonzero nei tiri pamberi pematare imhaka yekuti mibatanidzwa yedu yatikundikana. Uye kuti ndinzwisise kuti ndaifanira kudzokera zvakare mumabhuku enhoroondo, uye ndakaona kuti apo mibatanidzwa yakanga ichangotanga muCanada, bumbiro ravo raiti, “Vachena [inaudible 01:46:54]” Saka mibatanidzwa yedu haina kuvakwa. uinesu mupfungwa. Dzakavakwa kuti dzitisiye isu, maitiro uye maitiro mukati mekufamba kwenguva uye kubva mukurwa ikoko, vanhu vatema vakaungana kare ikako ndokugadzira mubatanidzwa wavo, tafura yavo. Mukurwisana ikoko chimwe chinhu chakasvika pakunzi duty to fair representation. Vanhu Vatema ndivo vairwira nzira yose mumatare uye vakapa hurongwa hwedu hwebasa basa rekumiririra zvakanaka. Asi zvakadaro havakwanise kubatsirwa nehurumende iyoyo.
Saka masangano edu ane, izvo zvinobva zvabva kubasa. Saka kana iwe uine nzvimbo dzebasa uko rusaruro rwakatekeshera, uko vanhu Vatema vari kugara vachidzingwa, uko hutongi hwevachena hunobudirira, mibatanidzwa yedu icharatidzawo izvozvo. Saka chinhu chimwe chete, kana kuti zvakatoipisisa, zvakadzokororwa mukati memibatanidzwa yedu. Uye mibatanidzwa yedu ine basa rakawanda rekuita maererano nekutendeuka iyo kona, kugamuchira mutoro, handiti? Uye tinoziva motokari ine simba iyo sangano revashandi. Iwo mahwindi akakura ayo akaunza kumba kwevashandi kubva kuzororo rekusununguka kuenda kuzororo rekurwara, kuchengetwa kwevana, kumuhoro wekugara, kusvika kupera kwevhiki. Zvinhu izvi hazvina kupihwa kuvashandi. Masangano akarwa akakunda zvinhu izvi. Saka tinobvuma uye tinotsigira uye tinotenda mumubatanidzwa.
Asi kana zvasvika kune anti-vatema rusaruraganda, mibatanidzwa yedu nemibatanidzwa mune zvese hazvina kuungana. Uye ndicho chinangwa chedu kukurudzira sangano revashandi reCanada kurwisa rusaruraganda rwevatema, kuti tigadzirise masisitimu edu mukati, nekuti tinoziva simba rine vashandi, uye kana mumwe akakanganiswa, isu tese tinokanganiswa. Uye kana vatema vari kushorwa, saka tese tiri muhondo pamwe chete. Uye ndizvo chaizvo izvo chikamu chehondo iyi chiri pamusoro, kuunza vashandi pamwechete. Nekuti kana tikakwanisa kurwisa izvi pamwe chete, zvinoreva kuti nzvimbo dzedu dzebasa dzinenge dzisina zvipingamupinyi. Zvinoreva kuti nhengo dzedu dzinogona kutora chikamu zvizere. Uye izvo zvinoreva kuti nhengo dzedu dzinogonawo kutora chikamu zvizere mumibatanidzwa. Saka pakupedzisira tichava nenzvimbo dzebasa dzakasimba uye mibatanidzwa yakasimba.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Hell hongu. Zvakanaka, uye ndinofungidzira pachinyorwa ichocho, uye handikwanise kukutendai zvakakwana nekugara muchitaura neni murume uyu murefu. Ndinotenda chaizvo. Uye ini ndanga ndichida kubvunza mumaminetsi ekupedzisira andawana iwe kuti izvo zvinofanirwa kutaridzika sei kubva kudivi remubatanidzwa? Kusimuka kuchiitiko ichocho, tichitarisa mukati nekugadzirisa matambudziko atichiri mukati mesangano, tisingabatanidzi vashandi veVatema kana kuva nehutungamiriri husingamiriri nhengo yedu kana kusaita kuti nyaya idzi dzive dzakanyanya kukosha mukurwa kwekondirakiti yedu uye mberi. Saka ndaida kubvunza A, ko mubatanidzwa wemubatanidzwa wekugadzirisa rusaruraganda unofanirwa kutaridzika sei? Uye B, chii chingaitwe nevanhu mubato revashandi uye mhiri kweCanada neUS nekumwe, chii chatingaite tese kutsigira y'all muhondo iyi?
Nicholas Marcus Thompson:
Zvakanaka, regai nditaure izvi, sangano revashandi rinoziva kurwa. Inoziva kuunganidza. Inoziva kuunza vanhu pamwe chete. Inoziva kufambisa mishandirapamwe. Ndozvatinoda, simba rakazara resangano revashandi rinouya pamwe chete pane izvi, kugovana zviwanikwa, kufambisa mishandirapamwe, kukwezva, kutaura neMP, kushambadza tsamba, nhandare dzeTV, nhandare dzenhau. Bato redu revashandi rinoziva kurwira nyaya, kurwira kururamisira kwevanhu. Saka tinoda kuti mibatanidzwa yedu irwire magariro akanaka. Izvi ndezvekodzero dzevanhu. Saka masangano edu anoziva zvekuita, uye sangano revashandi rakafara rinoziva nezvekubatana. Takave nenyaya munzvimbo imwe, uye yakashata. Masangano anobva kumativi mana enyika anouya pamwe chete, handiti? Saka nekuti chirevo chimwechete chinoshanda chekuti kana ukabata mumwe, unobata vese, uye kuti kana ukandikuvadza, uri kurwadzisa hama dzangu dzese, hanzvadzi neshamwari, handiti?
Maximillian Alvarez:
Iwe wakaona rutsigiro rwenyika kune vadzidzisi veOntario gore rapfuura.
Nicholas Marcus Thompson:
Chaizvoizvo.
Maximillian Alvarez:
Kutora Doug Ford uye kuedza kubvisa kodzero dzavo. Saka ndeipi iyo nekuda kwechikonzero ichi?
Nicholas Marcus Thompson:
Ndizvo chaizvo, zvinosuruvarisa, tinofanira kuenda tichikumbira rubatsiro irworwo. Tinofanira kumhanyira vatungamiri, tichiteterera. Kune gumi nemanomwe masangano emubatanidzwa uye maviri chete ari kutipa rutsigiro. Tinoda kukwanisa kuva nerutsigiro rwehurumende yose yehurumende, nzanga yose yevashandi. Semibatanidzwa, handitombodi kutaura zvinhu izvi, asi masangano anozviziva. Vaigona kungobudisa tsamba yekutsigira. Vanogona kugamuchira horo yedhorobha, vanogona kuita zvinhu kusimudzira ruzivo. Izvi ndezvekuziva veruzhinji. Izvi ndezvekuunza kuruzhinji rweCanada, kwavari, kuti sangano redu rinobata sei vashandi vari kuvashandira. Ikodzero, kodzero dzevanhu dzinokosha. Uye kana tikakwanisa kuita izvozvo nekuunza vanhu pamwe chete, ndinofunga kuti ndipo patinozohwina. Saka vashandi vanofanirwa kuuya pamwechete kurwisa anti-vatema rusarura. Uye kana zvadaro, tese tichakunda.
ZNetwork inopihwa mari chete kuburikidza nerupo rwevaverengi vayo.
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