Steve Dubb: Kodi mungayambe ndikulankhula za chifukwa chomwe mudasamuka ku California kuti mukakonzekere chuma chamgwirizano ku Mississippi?
Kali Akuno: Ndinabadwira ndikukulira ku Los Angeles, CA, koma kulumikizana kwanga ndi Mississippi kumayenderana kwambiri ndi amayi anga. Mbali imeneyo ya banja imabwereranso kukhala mdera la Natchez kuyambira pomwe idakhazikitsidwa. Palinso anthu ochokera m'mabanja omwe alipo.
Momwe ndinafikira mwapang'ono pa izi [the mgwirizano chuma] mwa zina kudzera m'chiyanjano chabanja chimenecho komanso kudzera mu mgwirizano wandale womwe umayenda m'banja langa lonse. Kumbali zonse za banja langa, pali mibadwo ya anthu olimbikitsa ndale. Makolo anga onse anali okangalika kwambiri mโgulu la Black power movement. Iwo anali mbali ya chizoloลตezi china mkati mwa gulu la Black liberation lotchedwa New Afrikan Independence movement. Gululo linali lolunjika kwambiri ku South.
Chifukwa chake, ndidakulira ndi chidwi chotere ndikugogomezera kwambiri zachiwonetsero ku South. Zinandikhudza kwambiri m'zaka zanga zaunyamata kuti ndimvetsetse kuti sindikhala ku Los Angeles, kuti ndikupita Kumwera.
SD: Ndi chiyani chinakupangitsani kuti mutenge ma cooperatives ngati njira?
KA: Ndinali ndi maphunziro abwino m'gulu limenelo la ma cooperative. Zinali zokamba zambiri m'mbali zambiri kuposa zenizeni, koma zolankhula zinalipo. Timapanga bwanji chitukuko? Kodi timasamalira bwanji zosowa zathu zachuma m'njira zosagwiritsa ntchito ndalama? Izo zinali ngati ntchito nthawizonse.
Ndipo anthu adatengera kudziwa mabungwe m'gulu la Akuda kubwerera m'zaka za zana la 19. Izo nthawizonse zinali kuyandama mozungulira.
Ndipo ndinakulira ndi machitidwe ogwirizana. Amayi anga anali gawo la zomwe timazitcha kuti CSA (ulimi wothandizidwa ndi anthu). Pamene tinali kukula, ankagwira ntchito yaingโono, kuika kandalama kakangโono, ndipo tinkapeza zogulira, ndalama zochuluka, kamodzi pamwezi. Koma munali kudzera mumagulu amtundu woterewu, makamaka akazi, ku Los Angeles kuti tinapeza zokolola zatsopano. Makamaka pamene mayi anga anali kholo limodzi, zinali zovuta kuti ndipeze ndalama zoti ndizitha kusamalira anyamata atatu. Co-op, CSA ija, idatipulumutsa moyo. Chinali chinachake chomwe ndimadziwa kuti chinalipo, koma sindinkadziwa kuti ndimadalira bwanji mpaka nditafika ku koleji ndikuyamba kudzilipira ndekha ndalama.
SD: Munalankhulapo kale za zomwe munakumana nazo mukugwira ntchito yophunzitsa anthu musanasamukire ku Mississippi. Kodi zimenezi zinakhudza bwanji maganizo anu?
KA: Chakumapeto kwa zaka za mโma 1990 ndi kumayambiriro kwa zaka za mโma 2000, ndinali wotanganidwa kwambiri ndi ntchito yophunzitsa anthu. Ndinali mphunzitsi, mphunzitsi wa kusekondale wapagulu, ndikugwira ntchito ku Oakland Unified School District. Ndipo pamapeto pake, ndinatha kuthandiza kupangaโฆ mfundo ya New Small Small Autonomous Schools.
M'malo modikirira mwachisawawa kuti msika "upange ntchito," tidayenera kupanga njira zopezera zofunika patokha. Zinaliโฆzobwerekedwa ku New York, yomwe inali ndi ndondomeko yofanana panthawiyo. Alibenso, mwatsoka.โฆIzi zinali, ndikukhulupirira, mu 1999. Kenako, mโzaka zingapo zotsatira, ndinatha kuchoka kumbali yopanga mfundo ndikuyamba kukhazikitsa ndondomeko ndikugwira ntchito. kupanga sukulu yaing'ono yodziyimira yokha yotchedwa School of Social Justice and Community Development.
Ndikugwira ntchito imeneyi m'pamene ndinakhala ndi mantha oopsa kwambiri m'moyo wanga. Madzulo otsegulira sukuluโnditamaliza ntchito yonseyi yokonza maphunziro, kugwira ntchito ndi antchito, kulemba anthu antchito, kulemba ana asukulu, kulemba mabanjaโndinadzuka pakati pausiku.
Sukuluyi idapangidwa kuti ikhale yokonzekera koleji. Zinali kugwira ntchito ndi ophunzira omwe anali makamaka pamtundu wina wa parole kapena probation. Tinkakhulupirira kwambiri kuti tikhoza kuwapeza kuti apite ku koleji, koma kenako zinandikhudza: Kodi ntchito zili kuti? Kodi ntchito ili kuti? Kodi ntchito yabwino ili kuti akachoka ku koleji? Ndipo ndinalibe choyankha. Zinandipangitsa kukhala ndi mantha akulu mkati mwanga ndi kufuna kupeza yankho.
Pazaka zinayi zotsatira, Oakland Unified School District idakhala ndi ngongole ndipo idayenera kukonzanso ndipo, monga gawo la izi, idatseka masukulu angapo, yathu idali imodzi mwazoโฆ.Munthawi imeneyi ndidabweranso chuma chamgwirizano ndi chikhalidwe chamgwirizano ndi lingaliro ili m'malo modikirira kuti msika "upange ntchito," tidayenera kupanga njira zopezera zosowa zathu tokha.
SD: Kodi pali china chilichonse kumbuyo kwanu chomwe chadziwitsa mgwirizano wachuma ku Jackson?
KA: Pakati pa zaka khumi kuchokera pamene ndinachoka ku Oakland ndi pamene ndinayamba kugwira ntchito ku Jackson, ndinagwira ntchito ku New Orleans ndi Atlanta. Kuchokera ku New Orleans, ndinaphunzira momwe ndingakhazikitsire malo odalirika ammudzi. Ku Atlanta, ndikugwira ntchito ndi US Human Rights Network, ndidakhazikika mozama pazachuma chikhalidwe chaufulu wa anthu komanso zomwe zingawonjezere masomphenya ndi zochitika komanso momwe mungakhazikitsire mfundo ndi kuzungulira chilungamo chachuma. Chifukwa chake, ndidaphunzira zambiri zomwe zidatha kuphatikizidwa kuyambira poyambira.
Chigawo chomaliza: chinali pochita zomwe timatcha kuti Ntchito Yomanganso Yokha ku New Orleans kudera la Gulf pambuyo pa mphepo yamkuntho Katrina. Ndiko komwe kulimbikitsana kulenga ndi kukankhira kwa chilengedwe cha Jackson-Kush Plan, Baibulo limene tsopano likupezeka kwa anthu, limene ndinalemba, ndipo tinatulutsa mu 2012.
Mkati mwake, tinapeza zinthu zitatu zofunika kwambiri. Choyamba, mabungwe opangira zisankho ademokalase kudzera mu People's Assemblies; chachiwiri, kukankhira mfundo zazikuluzikulu kudzera mu ndale zachisankho posankha anthu omwe angabwere kuchokera kumadera ndi m'misonkhano, motero ndale zachisankho zodziyimira pawokha; ndipo chachitatu, kusintha maziko a chuma mkati ndi kuzungulira chuma cha mgwirizano, kuzungulira demokalase yachuma. Cooperation Jackson adabadwa momveka bwino kuti akhale chida cha njirayi.
SD: Nchiyani chinapangitsa kuti Cooperation Jackson ipangidwe mu 2014? Kodi zidapangidwa pambuyo pa matenda a mtima omwe anali meya wa Jackson Chokwe Lumumba? Ndi kulondola uko?
KA: Kuyambira pachiyambi, Chokwe asanasankhidwe meya, tinkagwira kale galimoto yomwe idzakhala ngati Cooperation Jackson.
Zomwe tinkafuna kuchita kuti akhale meya ndikukhazikitsa mtundu wazinthu komanso ndale mkati mwamatauni zomwe zingapangitse china ngati Cooperation Jackson kuti chibadwe komanso kuti chikhale bwino.
Chimodzi mwa zinthuโฆchimene ndinapatsidwa ntchito yoti ndizigwirapo ntchito mu ofesi yakeโฆ chinali thumba la ngongole lomwe limathandizira ma cooperative. Tinali ndi lingaliro lakuti tiyesa kupeza khonsolo ya mzinda kuti tipeze ndalama ndipo tiyesetse kugwirizanitsa zimenezo ndi ndalama zochokera ku mabungwe angongole makamaka.
Tidalonjeza $3 miliyoni kuchokera mumzindawu, ndipo tiyesa kufananiza ndi $3 miliyoni yochokera kumabungwe osiyanasiyana amtawuniyi. Ndipo izo zinali pafupi kupambana. Zinakonzedwa kuti zigwirizane tsiku lomwe Chokwe anamwalira.
Tidzasintha zogula ndi kupanga makontrakitala kuti zikhale zokomera mabizinesi am'deralo. Tinapempha akuluakulu a mzindawo kuti alembetse ntchito yofufuza zinthu m'dera lathu mmene tingathere. Izi zikanapangitsa kuti ma cooperative ambiri ayambike kapena mabizinesi ang'onoang'ono m'deralo kuti akwaniritse zosowa zosiyanasiyana za mzindawo.
Tidzapanga mkati mwa dipatimenti yokonzekera gawo lomwe liti likhazikike pakupereka maphunziro oyambira kwa ma cooperative, kuphatikiza momwe angayambitsire komanso komwe angapite kuti apeze zida zoyambitsa.
Tinkafuna kukhazikitsa ma co-op ngati chida chothandizira anthu ogwira ntchito. Chifukwa chake, tinali kuyesera kuyika izi ndikupanga zinthu zazikuluzikulu izi kuti tithandizire china chake ngati Cooperation Jackson kuchita bwino Cooperation Jackson isananyamuke.
Kuti izi zitheke, panali mbali ya ndondomeko ndi ndale. Kumbali ya ndale, tinkafuna kuyambitsa ndawala ya maphunziro ndi ndale zachitukuko mโderalo. Tinkalingaliraโฆmisonkhano ingapo kudzera pa netiweki yomwe timayitana Jackson Rising. Msonkhano woyamba wa Jackson Rising udalengezedwa pomwe Chokwe anali moyo mu Okutobala 2013 ndipo udayenera kuchitika Meyi 2014.
Tsoka ilo Chokwe adadutsa mu February, kotero sanathe kutenga nawo mbali ndikukhala nawo pamsonkhano womwe tinali nawo mu May. Koma tinali nazo. Munali [izi] pomwe tidayambitsa mwalamulo ndikubereka Cooperation Jackson.
Tsiku lake lotsegulira linali May Day. Izi zidasankhidwa mwadala kuti zigwirizane ndi Tsiku la Ogwira Ntchito Padziko Lonse. Tinkafuna kukhazikitsa ma co-ops ngati chida chamagulu ogwira ntchito. Tinkafuna kuthetsa kusiyana komwe kulipo ku United States pakati pa ma co-ops ndi mabungwe ogwira ntchito mwadala.
SD: Kodi Cooperation Jackson ikanawoneka mosiyana bwanji mukadayambitsa momwe mumafunira mothandizidwa ndi anthu ndipo munayenera kusintha bwanji popeza mulibe chithandizo cha anthu?
KA: Limenelo ndi bukhu kwa Lokha. Ndizoyenera kunena kuti zikanakhala zosiyana kwambiriโฆ.Chokwe akadakhala ndi kuteteza chumacho ndipo [akanatha] kupitiriza misonkhano ya Jackson Rising ngati chida chophunzitsira chomwe tingachite kamodzi pachaka popereka maphunziro opitilira, kulimbikitsa anthu. , ndipo chofunika kwambiri ndikuphunzitsidwa mozungulira, ndikuganiza kuti tikanatha kugwira ntchito pamlingo wa municipalities, mosiyana ndi momwe Cooperation Jackson ali nayo.
Timadziwika mumzinda wonse, koma ntchito yathu imakhazikika m'dera limodzi, gawo limodzi la West Jackson. Ena mwa mabizinesi athu, monga Green Team, amagwira ntchito mumzinda wonse. Koma sizili zofanana ndi momwe tingakwaniritsire kukula momwe timafunira.
Tinkalankhula za kuchuluka kwa ntchito zamagulu ammudzi, [monga] mabungwe opanga uinjiniya, kuti atithandize pazovuta za mzindawu, kuti tithe kukulitsa luso la uinjiniya lothana ndi mavuto ena amadzi.
Tinkalankhula za kupanga pulogalamu yamatauni kuti athe kuyenda pagulu kuti akwere Uber ndi Lyft - kuwachotsa. Tinkachita kale mapangano ndi Barcelona ku Comรบ ndi ena kuti azitsatira ndondomeko zomwe zingachepetse ena mwa mapulogalamuwa kuti athe kubwera ndikukweza mtengo wa nyumba ndikupanga mapulogalamu ogwirizana. Tinali ndi masomphenya owopsa a zomwe timaganiza kuti titha kuchita pokhala ndi chithandizo cholimba m'matauni.
Ndipo ndikufuna kuti anthu adziwe, kukhala ndi Chokwe [monga meya] chinali chinthu chimodzi. Koma tinalinso ndi anthu ambiri panthaลตiyo pa khonsolo ya mizindaโanthu ochuluka zedi. Ntchito ya Chokwe idakulitsidwa chifukwa tili ndi boma lamphamvu la meya. Zambiri mwazomwe zimaphedwa zimabwera kudzera muofesiyo. Koma khonsolo ya mzinda ikuvomereza bajetiyo.
Oyang'anira ndiwofunika kwambiri koma kukhala ndi masomphenya amtunduwu, simupeza mgwirizano wandale wamtunduwu nthawi zambiri popanda kukhala mtundu wina wankhanza, zomwe sizinali zomwe izi. Awa anali anthu omwe tidasamukira ku ndale izi; onse sanachokere mโmisonkhano ya anthu kapena mโgulu lathu la ndale. Ena a iwo anali anthu a khonsolo ya mzindawoโaลตiri a iwo panthaลตiyo anali kale kwa zaka 20. Tinayenera kuwasuntha ndi kuwatsimikizira kuti apite mbali iyiโฆ.Ndikuganiza kuti ambiri a iwo akanamamatira ku pulogalamuyi. Kodi akanathandizira chilichonse? Mwina ayi. Koma ndi zinthu ziti zomwe timayesera kuzikankhira? Iwo anali kwenikweni gung-ho za izo. Zikanakhala zosiyana kwambiri. Mayendedwe osiyana kotheratu ku boma.
Tikayika mu Jackson-Kush Planโฆ tinkaganiza kuti titha kukhala Mondragon waku US, Mondragรณn wakumwera, tinkatanthauza kuti kwenikweni. Chifukwa cha kuchuluka kwa chithandizo chomwe ... tidayambitsa.
Maziko a ntchito yathu m'njira zambiri ndi kudalirika kwa nthaka.
Tsopano, mwatsoka, iyi idakhala nthano ya Humpty Dumpty. Pomwe Humpty Dumpty adagwa ndikusweka, zinali zovuta kuziyikanso.
Tinkayembekeza kuti zigawo zina za izo zigwirizananso pamene Chokwe Antar [mwana wa Chokwe Lumumba] adapambana kachiwiri, koma panthawiyi, magulu ena a ndale anali atakhazikitsidwa kale omwe sanagwirizane ndi izi. masomphenya, mwatsoka.
SD: Kodi zinthu zazikulu za Cooperation Jackson masiku ano ndi ziti?
KA: Maziko a ntchito yathu m'njira zambiri ndi kudalirana pamtunda. Pamene tidayamba, chinthu choyamba chomwe tidayang'ana kwambiri chinali kupezaโฆmalo omwe titha kugwiritsa ntchito ulimi wakumidzi, maphunziro, maphunziro ammudzi, komanso magwiridwe antchito abizinesi (monga kupanga cafe kapena catering co-op) ndi zina. za mabizinesi oyambira.
Mgwirizano woyamba womwe ndidagwira nawo ntchito ndili ku koleji kudera la Davis-Sacramento. Tidachita zoyeserera pang'ono zotchedwa Thomas Moss Memorial co-op. Tom moss anali m'modzi mwa anthu ofunikira omwe adayambitsa zakudya za anthu m'zaka za m'ma 1890 ku Memphis, TN, kudutsa malire a Mississippi, omwe adawotchedwa. Mamembala angapo a co-ops adaphedwa. Nkhani yake [inali] yosafa ndi bwenzi lake, Ida B. Wells. Umu ndi momwe Ida B. Wells adayambira kampeni yake yolimbana ndi lynching. Uwu unali utolankhani woyamba wamkulu wokhudza lynching zomwe adachita, ndipo zidali poteteza mnzake.
Komabe, ndi co-op, chaka choyamba kapena zaka ziwiri, sitinkadziwa kwenikweni zomwe tinali kuchita. Pofika nthawi yomwe tinkaganizira momwe tingapangire kuti ikhale yokhazikika, yokhala ndi cafe yaying'ono komanso zopangira zochitika, eni nyumbayo adayamba kukweza lendi miyezi isanu ndi umodzi iliyonse. Zinafika poipa moti sitinali kudzigwira ntchito tokha komanso anthu a mโdera lathu โtinkangogwira ntchito yolipira lendi.
Phunziro lochokera pamenepo silinabwerekenso kalikonse. Tinkafuna kwambiri kupezaโฆnthaka, kuichotsa, kuichotsa pamsika wongoyerekeza. Tinkafuna kupanga malo omwe ma co-op omwe timapanga amatha kugwira ntchitoโฆpamlingo wochepera kwambiri.
Mabizinesi ambiri amatheratu chifukwa sangathe kubwereka. Chifukwa chake, tinkafuna kuchotsa izi ku equation momwe tingathere, koma tidayenera kupeza malo ndi zida kuti tithe kuchita izi.
Chifukwa chake, ngati CLT ndiye nangula, ndiye kuti chitukuko chamgwirizano ndi, ndikuganiza, gawo lachiwiri. Ndiye gawo lachitatu la ntchito yathu likuyesera kupanga mabungwe othandizira ndi machitidwe omwe amathandiza kuti azithandizana kwambiri ndikuthandizirana. Ndi zigawo zitatu izi - kukhulupirirana kwa nthaka, ma co-ops, ndi mabungwe othandizira ogwirizana omwe amapanga maziko a zomwe timachita.
Pansi pa zonsezi ndi maphunziro aukadaulo ndi ndale nthawi zonse, chifukwa chitsanzo chathu chimakhala chokhazikika pazandale komanso kukhala ndi anthu okhazikika pamenepo.
SD: Kodi mungafotokoze bwanji filosofi yachitukuko cha Cooperation Jackson?
KA: Chitsanzo chathu ndi chosiyana kwambiri ndi zina. Yathu ndi yokhazikika pakukwaniritsa zosowa zina zomwe zimachokeraโฆmisonkhano ya anthu. Tayesera kuchita zimenezo mwadala kwambiri. Lili ndi zabwino ndi zoipa.
Mwachitsanzo, pamisonkhanoyi, kudzipereka kumodzi kwakukulu kumaphatikizapo kuyesa kuti Jackson asakhale gulu lotetezedwa ndi chakudya koma kuti likhale lodziyimira pawokha komanso lodziyimira pawokha pakupanga chakudya momwe angathere.
Tapanga mgwirizano waulimi wakutawuni kuti tiyese kukwaniritsa cholinga chimenecho, pomvetsetsa kuti famu imodzi, mgwirizano umodzi, sikwaniritsa cholinga chimenecho chokha. Iyenera kulumikizidwa ndikuchita maphunziro ochulukirapo ndikulimbikitsa alimi ena mumzinda wonse kuti akwaniritse cholinga chimenecho.
Koma chinyengo - ndipo ichi ndi choyipa chochita mtundu woterewu - ndikuti chimachotsa gawo limodzi la equation kuti anthu ayambe kupanga ma co-ops pazinthu zomwe amakonda, zomwe zimawakonda kwambiri. Chifukwa chake, zomwe tili nazo ndi mtundu wa dongosolo lozungulira.
Ndimatcha zenera la miyezi 24. Takhala ndi anthu 24 omwe takhala nawo zaka 10. Kulima si momwe amadziwonera okha pakapita nthawi. Palibe kanthu. Koma tsopano tikudziwa kuti kusunga kudzipereka kwa ndaleku kumafuna ntchito yambiri yozungulira, zomwe zikutanthauza kuti mumakhala ngati mukuyamba zaka ziwiri kapena zitatu zilizonse ndi gulu lina.
Izi ndi malire pa chitsanzo chathu chomwe taphunzira. Timayesetsa kusintha ndikuzindikira momwe timasinthira izi mwanjira inayake. Tili m'malo ena kuthana ndi vutoli chifukwa cha kudalirana kwa malo. Ngati tikuchita lendi malo a munthu wina ndipo zokolola zimasinthasintha chaka ndi chaka, mosakayika sizikanatheka. Chifukwa ndi eni ake onse, titha kupanga ndikusintha mitundu iyi pomwe ena ambiri sangathe.
Timaganiza kuti ubwino wa zomwe timakonda komanso chitsanzo chathu zimaposa malire ena. Timalimbikitsa ena m'madera mwawo kuti ayese kutenga magawo atatuwa a matrasti a minda, ma co-op, ndikukhazikitsa mabungwe ogwirizana kuti onse alimbikitsane. Timaganiza kuti ndi kusakaniza kwamphamvu.
SD: Kodi mulingo wa Cooperation Jackson ndi wotani pakadali pano?
KA: Izi ndizovuta kwambiri chifukwa ... mliri. Ntchito pafupifupi pafupifupi ma co-ops yakhala yosinthika kwambiri kuti zinthu zitheke. Chifukwa chake muli ndi ntchito yambiri yanthawi yochepa pa chilichonse tsopano.
Takhaladi olemba ntchito osintha nyengo munjira zina. Monga pakali pano, mpaka February, gulu la Green Team co-op, silikuchita zambiriโฆ.Pabwino kwambiri akutsuka mayadi ndi masamba ndi zinthu monga chonchoโฆkuthandiza [the] Zero Waste [co-op] ndi kompositiโฆ.Ali m'kukambitsirana wina ndi mzake za ntchito limodzi, akugawana ntchito ya wina ndi mzake kuti apeze zofunika pamoyo. Pakati pa ziwirizi, izi zikufanana ndi ntchito 10 zanthawi zonse, koma pafupifupi anthu 16 amagwira ntchito yonseyi.
SD: Ndi malo angati omwe ali mu Land trust?
KA: Tili ndi katundu wopitilira 40 mumzinda womwewo. Ndi malo opitilira maekala 20. Mukaphatikiza zomwe titha kuzipeza ku Canton yapafupi, tili ndi malo opitilira maekala 100, koma kumeneko ndi kumidzi. Izi zapangidwira ntchito zazikulu zaulimi zomwe tikuchita. Gawo lina lake limaperekedwa ku ntchito [yachipatala] ya chamba yomwe tikuchitaโฆ.Koma mkati mwa mzindawu, ndi maekala 20.
SD: Kodi mungatenge chiyani ngati chipambano chachikulu cha Cooperation Jackson, zovuta zake zazikulu, ndi zolinga zake zazikulu kupita mtsogolo?
KA: Tikuyandikira kumapeto kwa zomwe tikuwona Gawo 2 la chitukuko chathu, chomwe chidzafika pachimake pa malo amalonda omwe timawatcha Ida B. Wells Plaza. Eversville Design & Print Shop ndi amodzi mwamabizinesi omwe adzakhalapo mu 2024. Chief Farms, womwe udzakhala malo olima cannabis azachipatala, adzakhalapo. Ndipo, m'kupita kwanthawi, mwachiyembekezo pofika kumapeto kwa 2024, tikhala titamaliza zonse kuti titsegule Zogula za People.
Malo ogulitsira amawonetsa kusintha kwa zomwe tikuzitcha Gawo 3. Mpaka pano, tatha kutenga malo komanso ma co-op onse oyambira popanda mabungwe athu kutenga ngongole imodzi.
Gawo limenelo, tikuganiza, latha. Ndi People's Grocery, palibe njira yoti tisatengere ngongole zina. Gawo 3 likhala gawo lalikulu kwa ife. Kupitilira apo, tikufunadi kuchotsa ecovillage pansi. Takhala tikulankhula za izi kwa zaka 10.
Tsopano talowa mu maubale angapo omwe atithandiza ndi ndalama zambewu kuti tichite izi. Koma tikuyenera kutenga, tipanga, pakati pa $ 6 ndi $ 10 miliyoni kuti tikwaniritse masomphenya omwe tafotokoza.
Chofunikira pamenepo, chomwe chiti chikhale chosintha kwa ife, ndikuti gawo ili likukhudza gawo lokhalamo. Tikufuna kuti zikhale zotsika mtengo momwe tingathere, koma tiyenera kupeza chomwe chidzakhala chiลตerengero cha ngongole zomwe tingakhale nazo kuti tithe kuchotsa izi mogwirizana ndi masomphenya athu ndi mfundo zathu. Gawo lachitatu likhala vuto lalikulu kwa ife, koma ndikuyembekezera mwachidwi.
SD: Kodi mukuwona ngati udindo wa Cooperation Jackson pazachuma chamgwirizano ku United States komanso padziko lonse lapansi?
KA: Ndikuganiza, poyang'ana mlingo wa zopempha zomwe timapeza, timagwira ntchito yofunika kwambiri pachuma chamakono chamgwirizano. Anthu akumvetsetsa mozama za zovuta zomwe zilipo m'malo athu ogwirira ntchito muulamuliro wovuta kwambiri wa neofascist ultra-conservative m'boma la Mississippi. Ndikuganiza kuti anthu akuphunzira kuti ngakhale pansi pa zovuta izi, mitundu yosiyanasiyana yodzipangira okha ndi yotheka komanso yofunikira.
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