Ma Louisiana, ua hōʻike ʻia nā palapala hou i hōʻike ʻia i kahi ʻoihana naʻauao mokuʻāina e mākaʻikaʻi mau ana i nā mea hana e kūʻē ana i ke kūkulu ʻana i ka paipu ʻo Bayou Bridge, e lawe ana ma kahi o ka hapalua miliona mau pahu aila i kēlā me kēia lā ma waena o nā ʻāina wai o Louisiana. Hōʻike nā palapala i ka Louisiana Governor's Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness i kākau mau i nā memo naʻauao e pili ana i nā mea hana anti-pipeline, me ka hui pū ʻana o nā mea pale wai alakaʻi ʻōiwi i hoʻonohonoho i kahi hoʻomoana kūʻē ma ke ala o ka pipeline. ʻO nā palapala hou i hōʻike ʻia e hōʻike ana i ka hoʻonohonoho pono ʻana ma waena o Louisiana regulators a me ka hui e kūkulu ana i ka pipeline, Energy Transfer Partners. Hoʻokahi pule wale nō kēia ma hope o ke kauoha ʻana o ka luna kānāwai o ʻAmelika ma Baton Rouge i kahi kauoha pōkole e kūʻē i ke kūkulu ʻana i ka pipeline Bayou Bridge i mea e "pale aku ai i ka pōʻino hiki ʻole ke hoʻoponopono hou ʻia" i nā kaiaola o ka ʻāina, ʻoiai ke hoʻomau nei nā hoʻokolokolo. No ka mea hou aku, ke kamaʻilio nei mākou me Pastor Harry Joseph o ka Mount Triumph Baptist Church. Ke kamaʻilio pū nei mākou me Pamela Spees o ka Center for Constitutional Rights a me Anne Rolfes, ka luna hoʻokumu o ka Louisiana Bucket Brigade.
ʻO IOHN ʻO GONZÁLEZ: Ma Louisiana, ua hōʻike ʻia nā palapala i hōʻike hou ʻia i kahi ʻoihana naʻauao mokuʻāina e mākaʻikaʻi mau ana i nā mea hana e kūʻē ana i ke kūkulu ʻana i ka paipu ʻo Bayou Bridge, e lawe ana ma kahi o ka hapalua miliona mau barela aila i kēlā me kēia lā ma waena o nā ʻāina wai o Louisiana. Hōʻike nā palapala i ka Louisiana Governor's Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness i kākau mau i nā memo naʻauao e pili ana i nā mea hana anti-pipeline, me ka hui pū ʻana o nā mea pale wai alakaʻi ʻōiwi i kūkulu i kahi hoʻomoana kūʻē ma ke ala o ka pipeline.
AMY GOODMAN: ʻO nā palapala hou i hōʻike ʻia e hōʻike ana i ka hoʻonohonoho pono ʻana ma waena o Louisiana regulators a me ka hui e kūkulu ana i ka pipeline, Energy Transfer Partners. I kekahi mau hihia, ua hoʻohana nā mea hoʻoponopono mokuʻāina i ka ʻōlelo i haku ʻia e ka hui pipeline i kāna mau palapala lehulehu. Hoʻokahi pule wale nō kēia ma hope o ke kauoha ʻana o kahi luna kānāwai o ʻAmelika ma Baton Rouge i kahi kauoha no ka manawa pōkole e kūʻē i ke kūkulu ʻana i ka pipeline Bayou Bridge i mea e pale ai i ka pōʻino hiki ʻole ke hoʻoponopono ʻia i nā kaiaola o ka ʻāina, ʻoiai ke hoʻomau nei nā hoʻokolokolo.
ʻO nā mea hoʻohewa o ka pipeline ka mea i hoʻomaha ʻia ʻo Lieutenant General Russel Honoré, nāna i alakaʻi i nā hana kōkua ma New Orleans ma hope o Katrina. Hōʻike ʻia ʻo ia i kahi kiʻiʻoniʻoni pōkole hou e ka Louisiana Bucket Brigade e pili ana i ka pipeline.
RUSELA HONORÉ: ʻO wau ʻo Russel Honoré, Lutanela Nui o ka Pūʻali Koa o ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa. Ua noho au i 37 makahiki, ʻekolu mahina a me ʻekolu lā i loko o ka pūʻali koa ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa, ua hoʻomaha au i ka makahiki 2008 ma ke ʻano he 33rd commander, a hoʻi au i Louisiana, koʻu mokuʻāina home. ʻO ka hapa nui o ka poʻe e pili ana iaʻu i ka Hurricane Katrina ma ke ʻano he luna hui hana hui.
LT. ʻO GEN. RUSELA HONORÉ: Nā mea kaua i lalo! Nā mea kaua i lalo, pōʻino!
RUSELA HONORÉ: Ua hoʻopōmaikaʻi ʻia ka mokuʻāina ʻo Louisiana i nā kumuwaiwai kūlohelohe. Kapa mākou he paradaiso o ka mea haʻuki. Akā ʻo mākou ka lua o ka mea hana ikehu nui loa ma ʻAmelika. Hele mai kēlā me ke kumu kūʻai. ʻO ka waiwai mai ka ʻoihana ʻaila a me ke kinoea i kāʻili ʻia i kā mākou demokala.
IKE OLE: I ka hala ʻana o ka manawa, ua luku ʻia ko mākou ʻāina wai, e ka ʻoihana ʻimi. A, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ma waena o New Orleans a me Baton Rouge, loaʻa iā mākou he haneli mau mea kanu kemika, ke hoʻāʻo nei lākou āpau e hana i ka liʻiliʻi loa i ka wā e pili ana i ka ea maʻemaʻe. Ke hele ʻoe i ke komohana mai Baton Rouge, hele ʻoe i loko o ka ʻaila ʻaila. A ke hana nei ʻoe i kou ala e hiki ai i Lake Charles, kahi i lilo i ala hana o ka aila a me ke kinoea me nā mea hoʻoheheʻe a me nā mea kanu kemika.
RUSELA HONORÉ: ʻO ka pilikia ʻē aʻe i loaʻa iā mākou ʻo nā pipeline, i ka wā i loaʻa iā ʻoe he 170,000 mau mile ma kou mokuʻāina. ʻO koʻu manaʻo nui e pili ana i nā paipu, ʻaʻohe o mākou kānāwai, ʻaʻohe kanaka, ʻaʻohe hoʻoponopono, ʻaʻohe hoʻopaʻi a me nā hoʻopaʻi e hoʻoikaika ai i nā ʻoihana e pale i ka ʻaila. ʻIke ʻoe pehea lākou e hoʻololi ai i ka pipeline i kēia manawa? Ke haki. A nahā ia ma nā kūlanakauhale, ma nā kaiāulu. Puka ma ka ʻāina puʻu. Wahi ia ma ka ʻaoʻao o nā loko a me nā muliwai ma Louisiana. A i ka hihia o kēia pipeline Bayou Bridge, ʻaʻohe moʻolelo maikaʻi o Energy Transfer Partners. Loaʻa iā lākou nā ʻōpala he nui pinepine. ʻO ka manawa kēia e kū ai ka poʻe o Louisiana; a i ʻole, e hōʻino mai ka poʻe iā mākou i hoʻokahi haneli mai kēia manawa no ka mea ua nānā mākou i kēia hanana i ka ʻike.
AMY GOODMAN: ʻO ia ʻo Lieutenant General Russel Honoré i hoʻomaha, nāna i alakaʻi i nā hana kōkua ma New Orleans ma hope o Katrina. ʻO nā hoa paio ʻē aʻe o ka paipu ʻo Bayou Bridge he mau lālā o ka Mount Triumph Baptist Church ma St. James, Louisiana.
NA HUI: [mele] ʻAʻole mālama mai nā hoaaloha iaʻu e like me kā lākou ma mua
Mai koʻu waiho ʻana i kaʻu kaumaha.
KAHIKI LUNA HOOPONOPONO: He kaiāulu ʻeleʻele mōʻaukala ʻo Freetown, aia ma St. James Parish ma ke kapa komohana o ka muliwai Mississippi. Ua hoʻokumu ʻia ke kūlanakauhale maoli ma hope o ke kauā. ʻO wau ka luna pule, ʻo ia hoʻi ka hoʻokele. Ua bapetizo ʻia koʻu makuahine ma ʻaneʻi. He lālā koʻu kupuna wahine ma ʻaneʻi. No laila, holo hohonu. He kanakolu makahiki aku nei, ua koho ʻia mākou i wahi hoʻohana ʻāina ʻoihana. I kēia manawa, aia ma kahi o 118 mau pahu pahu ma kēia wahi. Ua ʻike mākou ua kahe nā paipu. Ua ʻike mākou aia nā pahu pahu. Ua ʻike mākou he kumu ia i ke kanesa. Ua ʻike mākou e loaʻa iā ʻoe ka hanu luna. Ua ʻike mākou he hānō. Ua ʻike mākou he ʻeha ko mākou ʻili, ʻōpū, ʻeha poʻo, inoa ʻoe.
HOOLAHA HANAHEA IOSEPH: E komo mai ana ka paipu alahaka o Bayou. ʻO ia hoʻi, e loaʻa hou ana nā pahu kaʻa. ʻAʻole hiki iā mākou ke loaʻa kahi mea ʻē aʻe ma kēia wahi. E hoʻopau wale ana kēlā i kā mākou mea. Manaʻo wau ua waiho lākou iā mākou ma lalo o ke kaʻa. A ʻaʻole kēia he mea hou. ʻO ia ka poʻe ʻilihune loa, ʻo ka ʻeleʻele a me ka poʻe India a i ʻole ka Hispanics. Manaʻo wale lākou hiki iā lākou ke hele ma luna o nā kānaka. ʻO nā keʻokeʻo liʻiliʻi ma ʻaneʻi, ua kūʻai mua ʻia lākou. ʻO mākou ka poʻe e ʻeha i nā kaumaha.
KAHIKI LUNA HOOPONOPONO: Kūkulu lākou ma luna o nā kaiāulu ʻAmelika-ʻAmelika. ʻAe, ʻaʻole lākou manaʻo i ka hakakā. A ʻaʻohe mea like ʻole e lele ʻole kēia paipu. E hiki mai ana. ʻO ka manawa wale nō ia.
AMY GOODMAN: ʻO kēlā ʻāpana i hana ʻia e ka Louisiana Bucket Brigades.
A no nā mea hou aku, ua hui pū mākou me ʻekolu mau malihini. Ua ʻike ʻoe i kēlā wikiō ʻo Pastor Harry Joseph o ka ʻoi aku ma mua o ke kenekulia, ʻoi aku ma mua o 130 mau makahiki ʻo Mount Triumph Baptist Church ma St. James. Aia ʻo Anne Rolfes me mākou, ka luna hoʻokumu o ka Louisiana Bucket Brigade, ka mea e hana nei i kēia mau wikiō. A ʻo Pamela Spees o ka Center for Constitutional Rights, loio limahana koʻikoʻi ma ka papahana #NoBayouBridge, ʻo ia hoʻi mai Louisiana, mai Lake Charles.
ʻO ʻoe ka hoʻomaka o ka paipu, a, e ke Kahu, ʻo ʻoe ka hopena o kēia paipu.
HOOLAHA HANAHEA IOSEPH: Hoʻoponopono.
AMY GOODMAN: E hoʻomaka kākou me Pam. No laila ʻoe, a ke lawe nei ʻoe i kēia hihia. A i ko mākou hoʻomaka ʻana i kēia ʻāpana e kamaʻilio e pili ana i ka nānā ʻana o ka poʻe hana, nā poʻe e like me ka reverend, nā poʻe e like me Anne, e kamaʻilio e pili ana i nā mea āu i ʻike ai a me ke koʻikoʻi o kēia papahana pipeline.
Pamela MAHELE: ʻAe, ʻike ʻoe, ʻo ka mea i loaʻa iā mākou, aia kekahi mau hihia a mākou i waiho ai ma ka ʻaoʻao o nā hui e kūʻē nei i kēia paipu. A ua kūʻē kekahi o lākou i ke Keʻena ʻOihana Kaiapuni no kēia mau moʻolelo.
A ʻo ka mea kupanaha loa i ka ʻike ʻana, ʻaʻole paha he mea kupanaha no ka poʻe i noho ma Louisiana, akā ʻo ka ʻoiaʻiʻo o ka mākaʻikaʻi ʻana, ua hōʻoia ʻia, aia ʻoe nā luna naʻauao ma ke Keʻena Kiaʻāina o ka Homeland Security e hana nei i kēia mau loiloi o kēia nā pūʻulu liʻiliʻi—ʻaʻole anei?—ʻo wai ka mea e hana nei i nā mea āpau e hiki ai ke komo i ka hoʻolohe kīwila a kūʻē i kēia papahana a hoʻāʻo e hoʻōki, ʻike ʻoe, ma mua o nā ʻae. A laila, ʻike ʻoe, ke hoʻouna ʻia nei kēlā mau loiloi i nā keʻena hoʻokō kānāwai ʻē aʻe a i nā poʻo o nā keʻena hoʻoponopono kaiapuni.
Eia naʻe, ʻo ka mea a mākou i ʻike ʻole ai i nā leka uila i loaʻa iā mākou mai kēia keʻena, ʻo ia ke kūkākūkā e pili ana i ka mōʻaukala o ka hui pipeline o nā ulia, ʻeā? No laila, eia kāu ʻoihana paipu i kaulana i ka ʻoihana no kāna moʻolelo o nā leaks a me nā kahe ʻana, ʻaʻole naʻe mākou i ʻike i kekahi mea i loko o kēia mau moʻolelo i hōʻike i kekahi hopohopo, kekahi kūkākūkā e pili ana i kēlā. A ʻo ka mea e hopohopo nei, ʻo ka poʻe e kūʻē nei.
ʻO IOHN ʻO GONZÁLEZ: ʻAe, ʻo ka moʻolelo kupaianaha o kēia mau leka uila a me ka nānā ʻana āu i ʻike ai, me he mea lā ua like lākou me ka hoʻokolokolo ʻana i kahi hana kalaima ma ʻaneʻi—
Pamela MAHELE: Akau.
ʻO IOHN ʻO GONZÁLEZ: —no kou kūʻē ʻana i ka paipu. ʻO Buren "Ric" Moore, ka luna naʻauao nāna i hāʻawi i nā leka uila, i kekahi manawa, ʻōlelo ʻo ia, "I ka hihia o ka hoʻoweliweli, e kali i kahi hōʻailona o ka hewa ma mua o ka hoʻokolokolo ʻana e kali lōʻihi. ʻAʻohe mea e hōʻoiaʻiʻo i ka holomua, akā pono e loaʻa kahi hōʻoia o ka hoʻoikaika. E hoʻoikaika kākou i ka ʻeha iā kākou. Inā ʻike ʻoe i kahi mea kānalua, e haʻi mai. ʻO Anne Rolfes, he aha kāu - i kou ʻike ʻana i kēia mau leka uila, he aha kāu pane?
makuahine ROLFES: ʻIke au i kekahi mea kānalua, a ʻo ia ka Energy Transfer Partners i hoʻohaumia i ka wai inu a puni ka ʻāina. Loaʻa iā lākou kahi moʻolelo o nā pōʻino. A ʻo ia ka mea a nā keʻena e hoʻokolokolo pono ai, ʻaʻole ka poʻe maʻamau e hoʻohana nei i kā mākou kuleana Hoʻololi Mua. ʻIke ʻoe, ma kekahi ʻaoʻao, he kūlana hoʻomākeʻaka, akā ke hoʻouna nei lākou i kahi kiʻi o aʻu i ka FBI a i ke Keena o ka Home—a i na oihana e ae a me na Koa Lahui. A laila, i koʻu ʻike ʻana i nā kiʻi mai North Dakota a me Standing Rock o ka National Guard, ma ke kahua, e hoʻohana ana i nā pōkā lāʻau ma luna o nā kānaka a me ke kinoea waimaka, ʻo ia hoʻi, ʻo ia ka hauʻoli, ʻo ia ka mea a lākou i manaʻo ai.
AMY GOODMAN: I kēia manawa, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo ka pipeline Dakota Access ma North Dakota, ʻo ia hoʻi - nona ka Energy Transfer Partners, e like me ka pipeline Bayou Bridge.
makuahine ROLFES: ʻAe, a ʻo ka pipeline Bayou Bridge ka wāwae hema o ka pipeline Dakota Access. No laila, pili ia ma nā ʻano āpau, maopopo, me kā lākou ʻenehana nānā.
AMY GOODMAN: A pehea ka pili ana o na makai nui ma Louisiana i ka mea e hana nei ma North Dakota? Ua ʻōlelo ʻoe e pili ana i nā kipa.
makuahine ROLFES: ʻAe. No laila, aia kahi halepule i kapa ʻia ʻo St. Charles Parish, kahi i noho ai ka makai nui, ʻo ia ʻo Greg Champagne, i pelekikena o ka National Sheriffs' Association. A no laila, ua hele ʻo ia i kahi huakaʻi i Standing Rock no ke kōkua ʻana i ke Kalana ʻo Morton, kahi i waiho ʻia ai ka paipu—ke Keʻena Makai Nui o Morton County, a hoʻi mai a loaʻa iā ia kahi leka Facebook koʻikoʻi loa e ʻōlelo ana ʻo ka poʻe e kūʻē nei i ka paipu. hoʻomāinoino, a me ka hoʻohewa ʻana i nā hoa paio ma ke ʻano he poʻe kūpono i ke kānāwai e nānā iā lākou. A no laila, eia hou, pili kēia iā mākou. ʻO ka mea a mākou e ʻike ai i ka Sheriff Champagne e hana nei, ʻo ia ke kū i mua o kahi pahū o ka paipu kinoea ma Louisiana, ma hope koke iho, i ka wā i make ai ke kanaka, me ka ʻōlelo ʻana, "ʻAʻohe pilikia ma ʻaneʻi." Nui, ahi nui i loko o ka puʻuhonua, akā "ʻAʻohe mea e ʻike ma aneʻi," e kamaʻilio me nā kāmera nūhou me he mea maʻamau kēia a me he mea lā ua maikaʻi kēia.
ʻO IOHN ʻO GONZÁLEZ: A, ʻo Pastor Harry Joseph, ka hopena o, ʻo ka mea mua, ka ʻoihana holoʻokoʻa, ka ʻoihana ikehu, ma Louisiana a pili pono i kou kaiāulu, a me kou hopohopo e pili ana i kēia pipeline?
HOOLAHA HANAHEA IOSEPH: ʻAe, ua loaʻa iā mākou nā mea he nui ma ko mākou wahi. Loaʻa iā mākou nā mea kanu, a ua loaʻa iā mākou ka māla pahu i laila. A me ke komo ʻana mai o kēia paipu, ʻo ia wale nō ka haʻi ʻana mai iaʻu e loaʻa hou ana kekahi mau pahu. A me nā pahu i loaʻa iā lākou, ʻaʻole lākou i pale nui ʻia, no ka mea, aia nā leaka, a kahe ke koko. A ke hoʻokahe lākou i kēlā mau pahu, hanu mākou i nā mea e puka mai ana. A ʻo kaʻu mea e hopohopo nei no kēia mea ʻaʻole mākou i ʻike i ka mea a mākou e hele ai - he aha ka mea e hele mai ana ma ka paipu. ʻAʻole maopopo iā mākou ka mea a mākou e hanu ai. A ua loaʻa iā mākou nā kānaka - e like me kāu i lohe mua ai, ua maʻi mākou. Ua loaʻa i nā kānaka ke kanesa. Ke make nei nā kānaka i ka maʻi kanesa. ʻAʻohe mea makemake e lawe i ke kuleana no nā mea e hana nei i kēia manawa. No laila, ʻo wai ka mea e lawe i ke kuleana no nā mea e hiki mai ana i ka wā e hiki mai ana, ʻike ʻoe?
AMY GOODMAN: E kamaʻilio e pili ana i kāu mea e kū nei i kēia manawa.
HOOLAHA HANAHEA IOSEPH: ʻAe, i kēia manawa ke alo nei mākou - e like me kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai, ke alo nei mākou aia mākou i kahi kaiāulu kahi i loaʻa ʻole kahi alahele i waho inā loaʻa kekahi mea. Loaʻa iā mākou ka Sunshine Bridge, a laila he kūlanakauhale liʻiliʻi i kapa ʻia ʻo Moonshine. A ma waena o ka Sunshine Bridge a me Moontown, ke kamaʻilio nei ʻoe ma kahi o 30 mau mile. A ma waena o kēlā, ua loaʻa iā lākou nā mea kanu ma laila. Loaʻa iā lākou nā ʻāpana ʻaila—maikaʻi, nā pahu aila. A loaʻa iā mākou nā poʻe e noho ana ma laila. Ua loaʻa iā mākou ka ʻāina i kapa ʻia ʻo burden land, aia mākou ma waena o lākou. ʻO ia ko mākou ala puka. Ua kūʻai ka mea kanu i kēlā a pani ʻia. No laila ʻaʻole hiki i nā kānaka ke puka i waho inā pono lākou e puka i waho. A ua hakakā mākou no ka liʻiliʻi ʻelua—ma ka liʻiliʻi ʻekolu mau makahiki e loaʻa ai kahi ala. A ʻaʻole hiki i ko mākou aupuni kūloko ke hāʻawi iā mākou i kahi ala.
AMY GOODMAN: Ua kūkākūkā ʻia kou kaiāulu a ua kūkākūkā ʻia kou halepule i ka wā e pili ana i ke kūkulu ʻana i kēia paipu?
HOOLAHA HANAHEA IOSEPH: ʻAe. E like me kaʻu i ʻōlelo ai, ʻo ke kaiāulu, hele mākou a pau - hele mākou i ka ʻaha. Hele mākou i ke kaiāulu. Hele mākou i nā hālāwai kūloko. A hele mākou i ka helu nui e hōʻike iā lākou ʻaʻole mākou makemake i kekahi o kēia. Akā, ua koho mau lākou, no ka mea, i loko o ko mākou kaiāulu, he ʻehiku kā mākou ʻaha kūkā, a ma ko mākou wahi, ʻekolu ʻeleʻele a ʻehā keʻokeʻo. A i ko lākou koho ʻana i kēlā, nui ka poʻe i ʻeha no ka mea he 4-3 kā mākou koho. A ʻike wale mākou e lanakila ana mākou i kēia kaua, akā ua eo mākou.
AMY GOODMAN: A ʻo ka koho 4-3 ma nā laina kala?
HOOLAHA HANAHEA IOSEPH: Ke koho balota ʻehā keʻokeʻo a ʻekolu ʻeleʻele. A maopopo iā mākou ua lanakila mākou, no ka mea, ʻo kekahi o nā ʻaha kūkā, ma, makemake wau e ʻōlelo, ʻo ka Apana 3, nīnau ʻo ia i ka nīnau: He aha ka mea e hiki mai ana ma ka paipu? A haʻi lākou iā ia ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou ke haʻi aku iā ia.
AMY GOODMAN: Nīnau ʻo ia, "He aha ka ʻaila e hele ai ma ka paipu?"
HOOLAHA HANAHEA IOSEPH: Ma o ka paipu, a haʻi lākou iā ia ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou. Ua haʻi ka hui paipu iā ia ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou ke haʻi iā ia. A maopopo iaʻu ua lanakila mākou. Akā, i ka hopena, koho mau ʻo ia.
ʻO IOHN ʻO GONZÁLEZ: A, ʻo Pamela Spees, e pili ana i ke ʻano o ka hana ʻana o nā hui me nā luna kūloko a me ka mokuʻāina e hana i nā lula a me nā kānāwai e pili ana i kēia, hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio e pili ana i kēlā?
Pamela MAHELE: ʻAe, manaʻo wau aia - ʻike ʻoe, ʻo ka mea a mākou e ʻike nei i loko o nā moʻolelo ʻo ia ka hana pū ʻana i ke kaʻina hana ʻae no kēia mau papahana. Akā, ʻike mākou aia kahi hoʻoikaika lobbying nui a, ʻike ʻoe, ʻo ka makemake o ka hui, ka ʻaila a me ke kinoea, ua hoʻomoʻa ʻia i loko o ke kaʻina politika. ʻO ia wale nō—ʻo ia ka mea e hopohopo ai—ʻaʻole anei?—e kūʻē i ka poʻe e hōʻike ana a hoʻāʻo e lawe i kahi leo ʻokoʻa i loko o ke kūkākūkā. A no laila, ua hoʻopaʻa ʻia ka deck. A ke manaʻo nei au he aha ia—a ʻo ia—ua ʻike ʻoe, no ka poʻe mai Louisiana, ka poʻe i ulu aʻe ma laila, he ʻano mea i ka lewa āu i hanu ai, a maopopo iā ʻoe ʻo ia ka hihia. Akā ʻo kaʻu manaʻo e loli nei i kēia manawa ke hoʻomaka nei nā poʻe e nīnau iā ia, manaʻo wau, ma hope o ka BP ʻana a nānā i ka mea i hana ʻia ma Standing Rock. A laila, ʻo ka ulu ʻana o ka ʻike e pili ana i kēia pipeline a ʻo wai ka mea ma hope o ia mea e hoʻonui i ka poʻe i ka ʻike.
ʻO IOHN ʻO GONZÁLEZ: A pehea e pili ana i ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa a nā hui e ʻōlelo nei, ke hana nei lākou i nā hana, e hiki ai iā lākou ke holomua ka hoʻokele waiwai o Louisiana?
Pamela MAHELE: ʻAe, he aha ka mea hoihoi e pili ana i ka mea a kēia poʻe i kākau ai ma nā kahua hana, ʻeā? No laila, ʻo ka poʻe paʻahana a pau e hana nei i kēia paipu mai ka mokuʻāina. ʻIke ʻoe, ʻo ia kahi mea a kēia poʻe i kākau ai a hoʻāʻo e lawe i ka manaʻo o ke Kiaʻāina ʻo John Bel Edwards, nāna i hoʻohana i kēia ma ke ʻano he hui no ke kākoʻo ʻana i kēia papahana.
AMY GOODMAN: Makemake au e huli i ke kiʻi mai CERAWeek, kahi hālāwai kūkā ikehu makahiki ma Houston. ʻO kēia ka CEO ʻO nā hoa hoʻololi o ka ikehu, Kelcy Warren.
KELCY WARREN: Ke kamaʻilio nei ʻoe e pili ana i kahi mea e pono e hoʻoneʻe ʻia mai ka waihona gene, ua loaʻa iā mākou nā poʻe e wili ana i loko o kā mākou paipu, wili lua. ʻĀnō, ʻaʻole lākou i ʻike ʻaʻohe ʻaila i loko o ka paipu i kēlā manawa, akā inā lākou, ua ʻike lākou ma kahi ala ʻino loa. A no laila, ʻike ʻoe, ʻo ia wale nō - ke hakakā nei mākou i kahi mea hou, akā ʻo kā mākou pilikia āpau. A ua lohi mākou i ka pane ʻana. Manaʻo wau ua haʻi aku wau iā ʻoe, e Dan, i ko kāua kamaʻilio ʻana ma mua, ua lohi mākou i ka pane ʻana i ka ʻoihana pūnaewele. Loaʻa iā mākou kahi CEO-ʻo wau - ʻaʻole ia i pili iki me kēlā, ma hope o kēlā. A ʻaʻole mākou e hana hou i kēlā. Ke nānā nei mākou i nā pāpili kaiaulu. A he wahaheʻe mau e ʻōlelo ʻia e pili ana i kā mākou hui ʻo mākou - pono mākou e mākaʻi.
AMY GOODMAN: Inā hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio e pili ana iā—Anne Rolfes, inā hiki iā ʻoe ke pane i ka mea a Kelcy Warren i ʻōlelo ai, ka CEO o Energy Transfer Partners, ʻo wai kāna i ʻōlelo ai?
makuahine ROLFES: Ma Louisiana, ke kū nei mākou e pani i kā lākou pipeline. ʻAʻohe mea i paʻa i ko lākou mau lima ma luna o nā mea hana, nāna e hoʻopunipuni me nā lako. A ke manaʻo nei au he mea hoʻohilahila maoli ia mai ka pilikia. ʻIke ʻoe, maopopo iā mākou ʻo wai ka ʻaoʻao kolohe. A ʻo ka hui hoʻomāinoino ʻo Energy Transfer Partners. ʻAe, ua hana kekahi poʻe ma ka lehulehu—ma nā ala paipu ʻē aʻe e hoʻōki i ka paipu. Ua hana ʻia kēlā, akā kakaikahi loa kēlā. A ʻo kā mākou e hana nei ma Louisiana, ʻo ia ka hoʻolohe kīwila maluhia i loko o kā mākou kuleana. Akau? A pono wau e ʻōlelo, ʻike ʻoe, aia ke kumu e hana ai ka poʻe e like me ia: no ka mea, ʻo nā ʻōnaehana i manaʻo ʻia e pale aku iā mākou, ʻaʻole maopopo ka hemahema, e like me kā mākou e ʻike nei ma Louisiana.
AMY GOODMAN: Aia kahi kūʻē ma waho o Cipriani i kēia lā—
makuahine ROLFES: ʻAe.
AMY GOODMAN: - kahi e hoʻohanohano ʻia ai ka US Bank.
makuahine ROLFES: ʻAe.
AMY GOODMAN: No ke aha mai?
makuahine ROLFES: No ka mea, ke loaʻa nei ʻo US Bank i kahi makana no ka lilo ʻana i kamaʻāina ʻoihana maikaʻi, ʻoiai ʻoiaʻiʻo ke kālā nei lākou a hoʻoulu i ka hana ʻino e Energy Transfer Partners. No laila, e hoʻoikaika mākou i ka US Bank e mālama i ka ʻōlelo hoʻohiki i hana mua ʻole ʻia e uku i ka pipeline, no ka mea, ʻo kā lākou kālā ke hoʻomau nei i ka pōʻino a me ka hana ʻino ma Louisiana. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, aia mākou i nā hewa koʻikoʻi e hana nei ma ko mākou mokuʻāina, kahi e hele ai lākou a ʻoki i ka cypress he mau haneli mau makahiki, kahi e hele ai lākou i kahi kaiāulu i hoʻopiha ʻia e ka pollution, i uhi ʻia e ka racism. a hoʻohui i kēlā pilikia.
ʻO IOHN ʻO GONZÁLEZ: A e Pastor Harry Joseph, he aha kāu e manaʻo nei e hoʻokō ʻia i mua o kou alo ma ʻaneʻi a i ka hoʻomau mau ʻana i laila?
HOOLAHA HANAHEA IOSEPH: ʻAe, ke manaʻolana nei au e hoʻolohe mai ana kekahi— lohe mai kekahi iā mākou ua lawa mākou i ko mākou kaiāulu a ʻaʻole pono mākou i kahi mea ʻē aʻe, no ka mea he poʻe mākou e noho nei i kēia manawa e hoʻāʻo nei e noʻonoʻo pehea lākou e loaʻa ai. i waho, no ka mea, ʻaʻole waiwai mākou, he poʻe ʻilihune mākou, a ua kūʻai mua lākou i ka keʻokeʻo. A ʻo mākou, e like me nā ʻeleʻele, ke noʻonoʻo nei mākou i kā mākou e hana ai, no ka mea pono mākou e hānai i kā mākou mau keiki. A ke piʻi mai nei kā mākou mau keiki i ka maʻi. No laila, loaʻa iā lākou ka nui o ka poʻe makemake e haʻalele i kēia kaiāulu, no ka mea, ʻaʻohe mea ʻē aʻe e komo mai ana.
AMY GOODMAN: ʻAe, pono mākou e waiho i laila, akā e hoʻomau mākou i ka hahai ʻana i kēia moʻolelo. Pastor Harry Joseph, Anne Rolfes o Louisiana Bucket Brigade a me Pamela Spees o ka Center for Constitutional Rights.
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