Ua hoʻolaha ʻo Pelekikena-koho ʻo Donald Trump i kahi lima o nā koho ʻoihana hou me nā pilina hohonu me Wall Street. Ma ka Poalua, ua kapa ʻo ia iā Steven Mnuchin i Kakauolelo Waihona. He luna hoʻokele mua ʻo Mnuchin no Goldman Sachs, kahi i hana ai kona makuakāne. Ua hoʻokani pū ka waihona kālā pā o Mnuchin i ka pilikia o ka hale, ma hope o ka huki ʻana i ka panakō Kaleponi ʻo IndyMac i ka makahiki 2008. Ma lalo o ka mana o Mnuchin, ua hoʻopaʻa ʻo IndyMac i nā ʻohana 36,000, ʻoi aku ka poʻe ʻelemakule i paʻa i nā moraki hoʻohuli. Ua hoʻopiʻi ʻia ʻo Mnuchin no ka holo ʻana i kahi "mīkini foreclosure." Ua koho pū ʻo Trump i ka mea hoʻopukapuka pilikino pilikino ʻo Wilbur Ross e lilo i Kakauolelo Kālepa. He loea ʻo Ross i ka hoʻohuli ʻana i nā hui banekorupa no ka loaʻa kālā, kūʻai pinepine i nā hui US ma nā kumu kūʻai haʻahaʻa a laila kūʻai aku iā lākou i nā mea hoʻopukapuka o nā ʻāina ʻē. Ua hana ʻo ia a me kāna mau hui i kekahi manawa i nā hana a Donald Trump e kūʻē i: nā hana hoʻouna a me nā hale hana ma waho. No nā mea hou aʻe e pili ana i kēia mau koho, kamaʻilio mākou me Cornel West, Professor Emeritus ma Princeton University. I ka wā o ka Democratic primary, ua kākoʻo ʻo ia iā Bernie Sanders. Ma hope o ka lanakila ʻana o Hillary Clinton i ke koho ʻana, ua hana ʻo West i nā poʻomanaʻo i kona ʻae ʻana i ka moho pelekikena ʻo Green Party ʻo Jill Stein.

NERMEEN KANAKA: "Ua lanakila hou ʻo Wall Street ma ke koho ʻana o Trump i nā Bankers a me nā Billionaires." ʻO ia ke poʻomanaʻo ma ka ʻāpana Bloomberg, ma ka Pōʻakolu, ma hope koke iho o ka hoʻopaʻa ʻana o Donald Trump i ka luna o Goldman Sachs ʻo Steven Mnuchin e lilo i kāna kākau ʻōlelo Waihona a me ka mea hoʻopukapuka billionaire ʻo Wilbur Ross e poʻo i ka Oihana Kālepa. Hele mai kēia e like me Politico ke hōʻike nei ʻo Trump e noʻonoʻo ana i ka pelekikena ʻo Goldman Sachs ʻo Gary Cohn no kahi pou kiʻekiʻe. Ua hui lāua ma Trump Tower i ka Poalua. ʻO ka luna hoʻolālā nui o Trump ʻo Steve Bannon he Hope Pelekikena mua ʻo Goldman Sachs i hele i ke poʻo o ka ʻēheu ʻākau. Breitbart kahua nūhou.

AMY GOODMAN: Ua hoʻolauleʻa ʻo Wall Street i ka nūhou. Ma ka Pōʻakolu, ua lele ʻo Goldman Sachs stock i 3.6% i kahi kiʻekiʻe ʻewalu makahiki. Hele mai kēia ma hope o ka hoʻolaha ʻana o Donald Trump i kahi leka kūʻē i ka hoʻokumu ʻana i ka lehulehu e hoʻohewa ana i kona mau hoa paio no kā lākou pilina me Goldman Sachs. Eia ʻo Trump e kamaʻilio e pili ana iā Ted Cruz 10 mau mahina i hala.

DONALD TRUMP: ʻO kāna mea i makemake ai e ʻōlelo, e pale aku au iā ʻoe mai Goldman Sachs. E pale aku au iā ʻoe mai Citibank. A e pale aku au iā ʻoe mai nā panakō, no ka mea, ʻo wau ʻo Robin Hood a ʻo wau kēia senator maikaʻi loa a e pale aku wau iā ʻoe mai kēia mau panakō, a laila ʻaiʻē ʻo ia mai nā panakō. A ma ke ala, loaʻa iā ia nā hōʻoia pilikino. A loaʻa iā ia nā hōʻaiʻē ukupanee haʻahaʻa. Ua loaʻa iā ia nā hōʻaiʻē haʻahaʻa. He haʻahaʻa ko lākou hoihoi. A i kēia manawa e hele ana ʻo ia ma hope o Goldman Sachs? ʻAʻole hana pēlā. Na Goldman Sachs nona. E hoʻomanaʻo i kēlā, e ka poʻe. No lakou ia.

NERMEEN KANAKA: Ma ka Pōʻakolu, ua hoʻohewa ʻo Senatoa Demokratika Sherrod Brown o Ohio, ka lālā kūlana o ke Kōmike Banking Senate, iā Donald Trump no ke koho ʻana i ka luna o Goldman Sachs mua ʻo Steven Mnuchin i kākau ʻōlelo Waihona. Ua ʻōlelo ʻo Brown, "Ua hoʻoikaika ʻo Pelekikena-koho ʻia ʻo Trump e kūʻē i ka mana o ke kālā nui ma Wakinekona a ua hoʻopiʻi ʻo Wall Street a me nā kālā pā no ka pakele ʻana me ka pepehi kanaka. Akā i kēia manawa, ua koho ʻo ia i luna hoʻomalu kālā pā i hiki ʻole ke holo hohonu ka pilina o Wall Street e alakaʻi i ke Keʻena Waihona, ʻo ia ka mea i hōʻike ʻia e kēia koho balota ʻaʻole makemake ka poʻe ʻAmelika. ʻAʻole kēia e hoʻoheheʻe i ka wai, akā e hoʻopaʻa ʻia me nā alligator. Ka olelo a Senatoa Sherrod Brown.

AMY GOODMAN: ʻAe, no ke kamaʻilio hou ʻana e pili ana i ke koho ʻana iā Donald Trump, kāna mau koho ʻoihana, a ʻoi aku ka nui, ua hui pū mākou me Cornel West, Professor Emeritus ma Princeton University. I ka wā o ka Democratic primary, ua kākoʻo ʻo ia iā Bernie Sanders. Ma hope o ka lanakila ʻana o Hillary Clinton i ke koho ʻana, ua hana ʻo West i nā poʻomanaʻo i kona kākoʻo ʻana i ka moho pelekikena ʻo Green Party ʻo Jill Stein. Welina mai e ʻO ka Democracy Nei! He mea maikaʻi ke noho pū me mākou.

KINI KOMOHANA: Mahalo wale au i ke Akua no ʻO ka Democracy Nei! no ka mea, ua kokoke make ka nupepa i ko kakou nee ana i keia au neofascist. A hoʻomaikaʻi i ke akua ua makemake mau ʻoukou e haʻi i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo.

AMY GOODMAN: ʻAe, ʻo kāu pane i ke koho ʻana iā Donald Trump a i kēia manawa ka ʻaha Kuhina āna e koho ai a puni ia?

KINI KOMOHANA: ʻAe, manaʻo wau ua kumakaia mua ʻo ia i ka poʻe hana ma ke ʻano o ka hōʻoia ʻana, i kona manaʻo, aia ʻo Wall Street i ka noho kaʻa. A ʻo kaʻu mea e manaʻo nei i ka manawa neofascist e puka mai nei, aia iā ʻoe ke kānāwai o ka ʻoihana nui, ʻo ia nā panakō nui a me nā hui nui. Hoʻokuʻu ʻoe i ka mea nāwaliwali loa. Hiki paha i nā Mahometa, nā Mekiko, nā kaikunāne male kāne, nā kaikuahine wahine, nā ʻōiwi, nā ʻeleʻele, nā Iudaio, a pēlā aku. A laila loaʻa iā ʻoe nā manaʻo militaristic a puni ka honua. A no laila, ke ʻike nei ʻoe i ka hoʻonui ʻia ʻana o nā mea hoʻopaʻapaʻa, e like me ka poʻe o mākou e kuʻi i ke alanui, ʻo mākou ka mea e - makemake e hele i loko o ka hale paʻahao, pono mākou e ʻike e ʻoi aku ka nui o ka hele ʻana mai iā mākou ma lalo. hoʻokele Trump. Akā, ʻo ka mea koʻikoʻi, ua kamaʻilio ʻo ia e pili ana i kona pilina me ka poʻe hana. A maopopo ke holo mau nei ka pakeneka hookahi.

NERMEEN KANAKA: Akā, ua ʻōlelo pū ʻoe, e Kauka West, ua ʻōlelo wale ʻoe he neofascist kāna ʻoihana. Hiki iā ʻoe ke wehewehe? He aha kāu e manaʻo ai i kēlā, neofascist e kū'ē i ka fascist, a he aha ka manaʻo o lāua?

KINI KOMOHANA: He aha ka neofascist - he ʻano ʻano fascism ʻAmelika. ʻO kaʻu e ʻōlelo nei ua loaʻa iā mākou ke aupuni neoliberal mai Carter a i Obama. Ua waiho ʻia kēlā lula neoliberal i kahi kūlana palekana aupuni. Ua waiho ʻia i kahi mākaʻikaʻi nui. Ua waiho ia i ka hiki i ka peresidena ke pepehi i kekahi kupa Amerika me ka pono ole. ʻO Obama kēlā. ʻO ia ka hopena o ke au neoliberal. I kēia manawa, loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi mea narcissistic - ʻo ia hoʻi ka manaʻo o ka psychologically - ʻo wai ka mea i hoʻomāinoino i ka ideologically - ʻo ia hoʻi, ma luna o kona poʻo - a ʻo wai kāna e koho ai? ʻO ka ʻēheu kūpono loa e alakaʻi ana i ke kau ʻana o ke kānāwai, ʻo ia ka neofascism, akā e hoʻoikaika i nā pono ʻoihana, ka ukupanee nui, a me ka mālama ʻana i ka poʻe o mākou i hoʻolei ʻia he poʻe kala, wahine, Iudaio. , Arab, Mahometa, Mekiko, a pela aku, a pela aku — No laila, o keia kekahi o na manawa weliweli loa o ka moolelo o keia aupuni palupalu loa a me ka repubalika palupalu.

AMY GOODMAN: No laila, makemake wau e kamaʻilio e pili ana i kekahi o nā koho a Donald Trump, e like me ke kākau ʻōlelo kālā a ka Pelekikena Pelekikena Donald Trump, ʻo Steven Mnuchin, nā pilina hohonu me Wall Street me ka hana ʻana ma ke ʻano he hoa hana no Goldman Sachs, kahi i hana ai kona makuakāne. Ua hoʻokani pū ka waihona kālā pā o Mnuchin i ka pilikia o ka hale ma hope o ka ʻohi ʻana i ka panakō Kaleponi ʻo IndyMac i ka makahiki 2008. Ma lalo o ka mana o Mnuchin, ua hoʻopaʻa ʻo IndyMac i nā ʻohana 36,000, ʻoi aku ka poʻe ʻelemakule i paʻa i nā moraki hoʻohuli. Hele ka poʻe i ka home o Mnuchin e kūʻē i waho i ka wā i hoʻopaʻa ʻia ai lākou mai ko lākou mau home ponoʻī. Ua hoʻopiʻi ʻia ʻo Mnuchin no ka holo ʻana i kahi mīkini paʻa. ʻO ka panakō, i kapa hou ʻia ʻo One West, ua hoʻopiʻi ʻia ʻo ia no nā hana hōʻaiʻē hoʻokae lāhui. I ka makahiki 2015, kūʻai aku ʻo Mnuchin i kahi panakō no $3.4 biliona, $1.8 biliona ʻoi aku ma mua o kāna kūʻai ʻana.

KINI KOMOHANA: ʻO kēia ka mea āu i kapa ai he ʻeleʻele ʻuhane. Aia kahi pae o ka callousness. Aia kahi pae o ka manaʻo ʻole i ka poʻe ʻilihune a me ka poʻe hana. ʻO ka manaʻo nui me ka manaʻoʻiʻo a ʻo ka mea nui loa, ʻaʻohe kuleana. Ke hana nei i kekahi mea hiki iā lākou ke hana ke ʻole, i ka hopena, hopu ʻia lākou e ke kānāwai, a ʻoiaʻiʻo, ua hoʻopiʻi pinepine lākou i ka poʻe e pili ana i nā kānāwai, ka poʻe i manaʻo e hoʻoponopono iā lākou. A no laila, he mea hou kēia o Wall Street run amok. ʻO wau, ʻo wau, a ʻo kekahi o mākou he koʻikoʻi loa [indiscernible] a ʻo kekahi, koʻikoʻi loa iā Geithner, Summers, ka lehulehu o Ruben ma waho o Wall Street i ka wā i neʻe ai ke kaikaina ʻo Barack Obama i ka Hale Paʻa.

AMY GOODMAN: ʻO Summers, ka mea āu i ʻike maikaʻi ai no ka mea ʻo ia ka pelekikena o Harvard i kou noho ʻana ma laila he polopeka ma laila -

KINI KOMOHANA: ʻAe.

AMY GOODMAN: - a komo i loko o kahi hakakā me ia.

KINI KOMOHANA: E hoomaikai i kona uhane. Akā - i hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻike ma ke kānāwai neoliberal, aia nō ʻo Wall Street i ka noho kaʻa. Manaʻolana mākou, me ke kaikunāne Bernie Sanders, hiki iā mākou ke hoʻopau i ka wā neoliberal. A ma ka neoliberal, ʻo kaʻu e ʻōlelo nei, ke ʻike ʻoe i kahi pilikia pilikanaka, hoʻolilo kālā ʻoe, hoʻopaʻa pilikino ʻoe, a me ka militarize. Loaʻa iā ʻoe ka paʻahao nui ma kekahi ʻaoʻao, hoʻokaʻawale i nā kula - ʻike wau i ke kaikuahine ʻo Diane Ravitch, ma luna o nā leo wānana nui o ko mākou manawa, ma kēia ʻano e kamaʻilio e pili ana i kēia ma hope - a laila hoʻoikaika ʻoe, ʻo ia hoʻi, e hāʻule i nā pōpoki ma ʻehiku. ʻO nā ʻāina Muslim a laila noʻonoʻo i ke kumu e huhū ai ka poʻe Mahometa. A i ʻole e hoʻolei ʻoe i nā pōkā ma luna o nā keiki hala ʻole me nā drones US a laila noʻonoʻo no ke aha e hoʻonohonoho ai nā gangsters, nā fascists mai ka honua Muslim. A ʻoiaʻiʻo, pono mākou e anti-fascist ma ka papa. Akā ʻo kēia ka manawa hoʻāʻo loa i ko mākou ola. ʻAʻohe kānalua no ia mea. A i ke 63 o koʻu mau makahiki, ua paʻa loa au no kēia hakakā. E hai aku au ia oe.

NERMEEN KANAKA: ʻAe, hāʻawi i kēlā poʻe i koho iā Trump a hoʻomau i ka mea āu i ʻōlelo ai, nui ka poʻe i nīnau pehea ʻo Trump, ʻo ia hoʻi he billionaire i hānau ʻia i loko o kahi ʻohana waiwai, pehea ʻo ia i lilo ai i poʻokela papa hana i ʻike nui ʻia i waena o ka poʻe i koho balota. no ia ma ke ʻano he mea ma waho o ka papa elite hoʻokele waiwai a me ka politika ʻAmelika?

KINI KOMOHANA: ʻAe, ʻo ka helu nui o ka poʻe i koho iā Trump he poʻe hana maoli lākou, ka poʻe waena waena, ke ʻimi nei i kahi ala e puka aku ai no ka mea ua nalowale lākou ma lalo o ka neoliberal globalization. A huli lākou iā Bernie Sanders, akā ʻo ka Democratic Party a me kāna aupuni neoliberal i hoʻokaʻawale iā ia a me mākou. A no laila, ʻo ke koho wale nō kēia billionaire pseudo-populist me kēia mau narcissistic sensibilities a me fascist - neofascist proclivities. A hōʻike ʻo ia iā ia iho e mālama i ko lākou kūlana. A no laila, he ʻoiaʻiʻo maoli kēlā pilikia waiwai, kēlā haʻalele waiwai. ʻAʻohe kānalua no kēlā. A ʻo nā kaikunāne keʻokeʻo disproportionate, akā ke pilikia nei lākou. A he uwe no ka naau.

ʻO ka mea pōʻino, hāʻawi ʻia i ka populist ʻēheu ʻākau a me ka manaʻo authoritarian o Trump, hoʻohana ʻo ia i kēlā ʻano ʻehaʻeha e pale aku ai i nā Mekiko, Mahometa, a me nā mea ʻē aʻe ma mua o ke kū ʻana i ka poʻe ikaika loa - 21 pakeneka o ka poʻe i koho iā Trump ʻaʻole makemake iā ia, akā. manaʻo lākou me he mea lā ʻaʻohe mea ʻē aʻe. A pono mākou e hoʻomanaʻo he 42 pakeneka o ko mākou mau hoa kamaʻāina ʻaʻole i hele i ke koho balota. Ua hāʻawi ʻia i ka ʻōnaehana, ʻike ʻoe. A no laila, ʻo ka ʻōnaehana ponoʻī, i kēia manawa, i loko o kahi pilikia maʻamau. A ua ʻōlelo mākou ma mua o ke koho balota ʻo Trump he pōʻino neofascist. A maopopo loa ma kāna mau koho ʻana ke neʻe nei ʻo ia ma ia ala.

AMY GOODMAN: Makemake au e huli iā Bernie Sanders. Loaʻa iā mākou ka hola nui mua me Bernie ma hope o ke koho balota. Ua kamaʻilio wau iā ia i ka pō Pōʻakahi ma ka Free Library. Ua pāʻani mākou i ka Pōʻalua. Ua kamaʻilio ʻo ia e pili ana i kāna manaʻo e hoʻoponopono i ka ʻaoʻao Demokarata ma ke ʻano he noho hou. ʻAe, he kūlana hou i kapa ʻia ʻo ke kūlana outreach. Aia ʻo ia i kēia manawa i ke alakaʻi Demokalaka Senate. ʻOiai ʻo ia he socialist kūʻokoʻa. ʻO Bernie Sanders kēia.

KENA. BERNIE NA MOKUAHI: ʻO ke ala hou, ke manaʻo nei au, ʻo ia, a, hana i kahi hoʻolālā mokuʻāina he kanalima. ʻO ia hoʻi, hoʻomaka mākou e pāʻani i ka pōleʻa ma nā mokuʻāina i ʻae aku ka poʻe Democrats i nā makahiki i hala. Akā, ʻoi aku ka mea nui, hana mākou i kahi ʻano pāʻina kumu kahi o ka poʻe koʻikoʻi o ka pāʻina ʻaʻole nā ​​mea kōkua hoʻolaha waiwai wale nō, akā nā poʻe hana, nā ʻōpio, nā poʻe ma waena o ka papa waena e hele mai a hoʻomaka e haʻi. iā mākou i nā mea e pono ai lākou a hāʻawi iā mākou i kekahi mau manaʻo e pili ana i kā mākou hele ʻana i mua. A ʻae wau i kēia kuleana ma ke ʻano he noho hoʻolaha me ka haʻalulu nui, akā me ka hauʻoli pū kekahi. E hele ana au a puni ka ʻāina e hoʻāʻo e hana i nā mea a pau e hiki ai iaʻu ke hoʻokumu i kahi pāʻina e hōʻike ana i ka poʻe hana a ʻaʻole i ka pākēneka wale nō.

AMY GOODMAN: No laila, nui nā nīnau, a paipai au i ka poʻe e nānā i ka hola piha ma democracynow.org. He kākoʻo nui ʻoe iā Bernie Sanders. Ua lawelawe ʻoe ma ke Kōmike Platform Demokarata ma ka ʻaoʻao o Bernie Sanders. Manaʻo ʻoe ua kūpono ʻo ia e hana hou i ka hoʻoponopono ʻana i nā Demokarata ma mua o ka nānā ʻana i ke kūkulu ʻana i kahi hui hou? Ke alakaʻi nei ʻo ia i kahi neʻe i kapa ʻia ko mākou kipi. Ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia pono mākou e hana pū me Donald ma nā ʻano like ʻole. 'Ōleloʻo ia i ka poʻe i kākoʻo iā ia. Ua ʻōlelo ʻo Elizabeth Warren, i ka lā hope loa, ʻaʻole maopopo loa ʻo ia e hana pū me Donald Trump. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, hoihoi loa i ka wā i komo mai ai ʻo Barack Obama, ua wehewehe ʻo Mitch McConnell ʻaʻole lākou e hana pū me Obama. Akā, pehea kou manaʻo no kēia mau mea a pau, ka hoʻolālā o loko/waho?

KINI KOMOHANA: ʻAe, manaʻo wau e nui ana nā pane like ʻole. Nui koʻu aloha a mahalo i ke kaikunāne Bernie Sanders. E hana mau wau. ʻAʻole wau ʻae like me ia. ʻAʻole au i manaʻoʻiʻo e hiki ke hoʻoponopono ʻia ka ʻaoʻao Demokarata. Manaʻo wau he ʻano kūpaʻa i ka neoliberal orientation. Ke kūpaʻa mau nei ʻo ia iā Wall Street, ʻo ka lanakila loa o Nancy Pelosi he hōʻailona ia e noho mau ana ka neoliberalism i ka pāʻina. Manaʻo wau e hiki iā Keith Ellison ke hōʻike i kahi paʻakikī iā ia. Akā, ʻo koʻu manaʻo -

AMY GOODMAN: - ma ke ano he poo o - ina oia ke poo o ke Komite Lahui Demokarata.

KINI KOMOHANA: Ina oia ke poo o ka DNC. Akā, ʻo kaʻu manaʻo ʻo ka ʻaoʻao Demokarata ua pau ke kinoea. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, he pāʻina kēia i hiki ʻole ke kūʻē ākea TPP i ko makou hoopaapaa ana ia mea ma ke Komite Papahana. A he laʻana liʻiliʻi wale nō kēlā. ʻAʻole hiki ke hoʻōki - ʻaʻole hiki ke koho e hoʻōki i ka Fracking, a pēlā aku. No laila, pili mau i ke kālā nui.

AMY GOODMAN: ʻOiai ua hoʻololi ʻo Hillary Clinton i kona kūlana, no ke koʻikoʻi o Bernie Sanders TPP?

KINI KOMOHANA: Pololei, a paʻa i laila i nā hoʻopaʻapaʻa, loaʻa iā lākou ka ʻōlelo mai ka Hale Paʻa, ʻaʻole mākou makemake e hoʻohilahila i ka pelekikena. Hoʻohilahila i ka pelekikena? Pehea ka poʻe ʻilihune a me ka poʻe hana e hana nei i ka ʻeha? He mea ʻuʻuku paha ia ma mua o ka hoʻohilahila ʻana i ka pelekikena? A maopopo loa ia lakou ia mea. A hoʻokuʻu wau a hoʻokuʻi a hoʻokuʻi. Eia kekahi — ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou ke kamaʻilio pololei e pili ana i ka ʻIseraʻela. Hoʻohana ka pelekikena i kahi ʻōlelo i ka makahiki 2009, ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou ke hoʻohana ia mea ma ka paepae. No ke aha mai? No ka nakinaki ʻana i ka lobby, nakinaki lākou i AIPAC. No laila, ke loaʻa iā ʻoe kēlā mau ʻano kaohi iā ʻoe, kēia mau albatros ma kou ʻāʻī, pehea ʻoe e lilo ai i pāʻina no ka poʻe? Pehea ʻoe e lilo ai i pāʻina no ka poʻe hana, ka poʻe ʻilihune. Pehea ʻoe e lilo ai i pāʻina no kēlā mau kaikunāne a me nā kaikuahine ma Yemen e pili ana i nā pūʻali koa kākoʻo US a me nā pōkā e pepehi ana iā lākou, i hui pū me ke aupuni Saudi Arabia? Pehea ʻoe e hana ai me ka Palestinians, e hana me ka ʻIseraʻela noho? Pehea ʻoe e hana ai me ʻApelika, ka hoʻonui ʻana o KAHIKI, a pela aku? Pono e loaʻa kekahi kūpaʻa a me ke kūpaʻa pono. A ʻo ka mea pōʻino, ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke hoʻokō i kēlā pilikia. Akā, e hana pū wau me ke kaikunāne Bernie Sanders a me nā mea ʻē aʻe ma muli o ke aloha a no ka mea ua ʻike wau i loko o kona puʻuwai ua paʻa ʻo ia i ka poʻe hana. Akā i kēia manawa, ʻoiai he kanaka kūʻokoʻa kūʻokoʻa, ke hana nei ʻo ia ma ke ʻano he New Deal liberal.

AMY GOODMAN: He aha kēlā manaʻo?

KINI KOMOHANA: ʻO ia ke ʻano he - ʻo ia, he Democratic Socialist he radical nāna e hōʻino i ka ʻōnaehana. Hana ʻia kahi liberal New Deal i loko o ka ʻōnaehana a ʻaʻole makemake e lawe i ka hoʻohewa nui no ka hoʻololi ʻana. A hiki iaʻu ke hoʻomaopopo no ka mea aia ʻo ia i loko. Akā ʻo ka poʻe o waho a kūʻokoʻa, e haʻi mākou i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo. E ʻoiaʻiʻo mākou. E loaʻa iā mākou kekahi ʻano o ka pono a me ka ʻuhane. A ʻo ke ʻano o ka marginal e hana ai iā mākou, ʻaʻole mākou, ma kekahi ʻano, e hoʻoponopono maikaʻi ʻia i kēia hana pono ʻole ma aneʻi.

NERMEEN KANAKA: Ma Charlotte, North Carolina, ua hele aku na kanaka i na alanui, i ka po Poakolu, e kue i ka hoolaha ana, aole e alo aku ka makai o Brentley Vinson, i na hihia no ka pepehi make make ana i ka makuakane o Aferika Amerika Keith Lamont Scott. Ma kahi o ʻehā mau kānaka i hopu ʻia i ka hele ʻana o ka poʻe kūʻē me nā hōʻailona e heluhelu ana, "Pehea e pakele ai me ka pepehi kanaka: E lilo i cop."

HOOKUNA 1: Nā lima i luna!

HANAU: Mai pana!

HOOKUNA 1: Nā lima i luna!

HANAU: Mai pana!

HOOKUNA 2: Mai pepehi make mākou ma ke alanui. Hoʻopaʻa ʻoe i ko mākou mau hoahānau a -

AMY GOODMAN: ʻO ka pepehi ʻia ʻana o Keith Lamont Scott e nā mākaʻi i Kepakemapa i hoʻāla i nā kūʻē nui ma Charlotte a me ka ʻāina. Wahi a ka ʻohana o Scott e heluhelu ana ʻo ia i kahi puke i loko o kāna kaʻa ma ke kahua kaʻa e kali ana e kiʻi i kāna keiki ma hope o ke kula i ka wā i hoʻokokoke ʻia ai ʻo ia e nā mākaʻi. ʻO ka wikiō kamera dashboard o ka pilina, i hoʻokuʻu ʻia ma hope o nā kūʻē, e hōʻike ana iā Scott e haʻalele ana i kāna kaʻa a hoʻi i hope me kona mau lima ma kona ʻaoʻao. I loko o ke wikiō, hoʻopuka nā mākaʻi i ʻehā mau pana iā Scott i kona hāʻule ʻana i ka honua. I ʻOkakopa, ua hoʻoholo kahi autopsy kūʻokoʻa i ke kī ʻana he pepehi kanaka.

NERMEEN KANAKA: Akā ma ka Pōʻakolu, ua hoʻolaha ka Loio Apana ʻo Mecklenburg County Andrew Murray i ka luna ʻo Brentley Vinson, ʻeleʻele, ʻaʻole ia e kū i nā hoʻopiʻi a ua kūpono ke kī ʻana.

DIST. KANAKA. AHUI NA MUAAI: Ma hope o ka nānā pono ʻana, a hāʻawi ʻia i ka huina o nā kūlana a me nā hōʻike ʻoiaʻiʻo o kēia hihia, ʻo koʻu manaʻo ua hana pono ka luna ʻo Vinson i kāna kī ʻana iā Mr. Scott. Ua hana ma ke kanawai.

AMY GOODMAN: Ua hoʻomau ka Loio Apana ʻo Mecklenburg County ʻo Andrew Murray i ka hoʻokolokolo ʻana ua loaʻa iā Scott kahi pū ma kahi o ka pana ʻana, ʻoiai ua ʻae ʻo ia ʻaʻohe mea hōʻike i hāpai maoli ʻo Scott i ka pū i nā luna. ʻO Karolina ʻĀkau he mokuʻāina hāmama, ʻo ia hoʻi he kānāwai ke lawe pū. I loko o kahi ʻōlelo, ua ʻōlelo ka ʻohana o Scott ua hōʻino nui lākou i ka hoʻoholo ʻaʻole e hoʻopiʻi i ka luna ʻo Vinson, ka mea i hoʻomaha ʻia i ka wā o ka hoʻokolokolo. No ke kamaʻilio hou ʻana e pili ana i ka pana ʻana iā Keith Lamont Scott a me ka hana hoʻomāinoino a nā mākaʻi, ua hui pū mākou me Cornel West, ka polopeka emeritus ma ke Kulanui ʻo Princeton e hele ana i ke Kulanui ʻo Harvard no ka mea e aʻo ana ʻo ia ma Ianuali. ʻO kāu pane i ka nele o kahi palapala hoʻopiʻi?

KINI KOMOHANA: ʻIke hou mākou. ʻIke hou mākou. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, ʻoi aku ka paʻakikī o ka hoʻouna ʻana i kahi mākaʻi nāna i pepehi i ke kanaka kīwila hala ʻole i ka hale paʻahao ma mua o ka hele ʻana o ke kāmelo ma ka puka o ka nila. Aia wau ma ka ʻaha hoʻokolokolo ma White Plains me koʻu kaikunāne aloha ʻo Kenneth Chambers Jr. Mea like. E noho ana e nana ana i na hoike a pau. Eia ke kiure a me ka lunakanawai. ʻO ka make ʻana o ko kākou kaikaina aloha ʻo Kenneth Chamberlain Sr., ʻaʻohe pono.

AMY GOODMAN: A pono e hele nā ​​kānaka i kā mākou pūnaewele e ʻike i ka hana nui a mākou i hana ai ma ia mea. Akā, he kanaka koa ia, he lei makaʻala lāʻau. A i kona wā e hiamoe ana, ʻolokaʻa ʻo ia ma luna. Ua kāhea ka poʻe lapaʻau. ʻAʻole kēia he pilina makai. Kāhea ʻia ke kākoʻo iā ia i hoʻāla iā ia i ka wā e kīkēkē ana nā kānaka ma ka puka. Ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia ua maikaʻi ʻaʻole makemake ʻo ia e wehe i ka puka, ʻaʻole hopohopo. Kikeke iho la lakou i kela puka a make ia.

KINI KOMOHANA: A pepehi iā ia. A kauo ia ia me na wahi koko i hoikeia ma ka puka a pela aku. Akā, ʻike pinepine mākou i kēia. ʻO kāna mea e hoʻoulu ai, ʻoiai, he hōʻailona kēia o ka manaʻolana, he hanauna ʻōpio kā mākou e wela ana i ka pono. Ua luhi lākou i kēia palaka a me ka manaʻo ʻole i ka poʻe nāwaliwali. A he lehulehu ia, he lehulehu, he lehulehu, he lehulehu, he hoomana a he hoomana ole. He mea maikaʻi loa kēlā. No ka mea ʻo ka mea e helu nei nā neofascist elites he conformity a me ka ʻoluʻolu. E nānā iā Mitt Romney. He hoʻopunipuni ʻo Trump. He phony ʻo ia. Pono kāna mau ʻōlelo hoʻohiki i kahi diploma mai ke Kulanui ʻo Trump. A laila i nehinei, ua ʻike ʻo ia iaʻu he naʻauao loa a manaʻo wau he mea hanohano ke hana pū me lākou. ʻAʻohe pono wale nō. Akā, ʻaʻole kēia ʻo ka Mitt Romney wale nō, pono mākou e nānā i nā Democrats. Ke nānā nei ʻoe i kēia mau neoliberal e piʻo hou aʻe, ke nānā nei ʻoe iā lākou e hoʻomaka i ka noʻonoʻo ʻana i ka mea e nīnau ʻia ai. Pono mākou e kaha i kekahi mau laina ma ke one. ʻAʻole ia manaʻo e hoʻomāinoino mākou i nā poʻe ʻē aʻe, akā pono lākou e loaʻa kekahi mau loina. Pono kekahi pono, ho'i kekahi. A hoʻomaikaʻi i ke Akua ua loaʻa iā mākou kekahi poʻe ʻōpio i hoʻomaopopo i kēlā.

AMY GOODMAN: ʻAe, loaʻa iā ʻoe kēia hihia ma North Carolina. I ka manawa like ma Charleston, South Carolina, ua hoʻopiʻi ka poʻe hoʻopiʻi i ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa ʻana, i ka Pōʻakolu, i ka hoʻokolokolo pepehi kanaka o ka mākaʻi keʻokeʻo Michael Slager i hopu ʻia ma ke wikiō, he mea nānā wale nō ka mea i ʻike i kēia hana, pana ʻo ʻAmelika ʻAmelika Walter Scott i loko. ke kua i ka holo ʻana o Scott. Ua kū ʻo ia ma kahi kaʻa kaʻa ʻo AutoZone kahi āna e hele ai no kāna kaʻa, a ua kī ʻia kēia mākaʻi iā ia a make. I kēia manawa, aia ʻo ia i loko o ka hale paʻahao like ʻo Dylan Roof, ʻo ia ka mea e hoʻokolokolo nei a manaʻo ʻia ʻo ia e kū nei.

KINI KOMOHANA: Ma hope o kona pepehi ʻana i ka poʻe ʻeleʻele makamae ma ka AME ʻO ka hale pule, lawe ʻia no ka hamburger ma ke ala i ka hale paʻahao no ka mea pōloli ʻo ia. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, ʻo ia ka hohonu o ka banekorupa a me ka ʻeleʻele ʻuhane aʻu e kamaʻilio nei, ʻike ʻoe. A ʻoiaʻiʻo, Breitbart, he aha kā lākou hana? Kau lākou i ka hae Confederate ma hope o ka pepehi ʻia ʻana o kēia poʻe ʻeleʻele a hana lākou me he mea lā he hana makemake ʻole ia. A ʻike mākou he neo-Nazi ka Confederacy ma ke ʻano o kona inaina i ka poʻe ʻeleʻele i ka pale ʻana i ke kauā. No laila ke hana nei mākou i nā manawa a mākou e maopopo ai, a pono mākou e ʻōlelo maʻalahi, ʻōlelo Frank, a pono mākou i nā poʻe makemake e kau i nā kino ma ka laina. ʻO kēia ke ʻano o ka manawa a mākou e noho nei. ʻAʻole kēia he manawa no ka ʻoluʻolu a me ka puʻuwai nawaliwali a me ka hapa o ka ʻoiaʻiʻo a me ka hoʻāʻo ʻana e hoʻopololei i kahi mea a lākou e manaʻo ai he paʻakikī loa ke maopopo loa, akā naʻe pono mākou e hana i ke ʻano o ka "Love" a John Coltrane. Kiekie” aia ma ke kikowaena. Pono ʻoe e piha i ka huhū no kou inaina i ka pono ʻole, akā ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke inaina i nā kānaka. Pono ʻoe e inaina i ka pono ʻole a mālama i ke aloha ma ke kikowaena. A ʻo ia ka mea kupaianaha e pili ana i kāu hana ma North Carolina. Aia ʻoe ma laila no ka mea he aloha kou i nā kaikunāne makamae a me nā kaikuahine -

AMY GOODMAN: Dakota ʻĀkau.

KINI KOMOHANA: ʻO North Dakota wau. Dakota ʻĀkau. A ʻo ke ana o ka moʻomeheu ʻAmelika, pehea ʻoe e mālama ai i nā kaikunāne a me nā kaikuahine? No ka mea, ʻaʻole ʻo ke kauā ka hewa mua o ʻAmelika. ʻO ka hewa kumu mua, ʻo ia ka lawe ʻana i ko mākou mau kaikunāne a me nā kaikuahine -

AMY GOODMAN: No laila, ke hele nei ʻoe i North Dakota i kēia hopena pule, ʻo ia ka hopena pule nui no ka mea ʻo Dekemaba 5 ka lā a ka Army Corps of Engineers i hoʻonohonoho ai, me ka ʻōlelo ʻana e haʻalele nā ​​kānaka i kēlā wahi - ʻoiai, nā luna mokuʻāina, a me nā luna kūloko. , ʻaʻole lākou e neʻe i ka ʻāina e hopu i nā kānaka. He mau memo paʻakikī loa e puka mai nei i kēia manawa. Akaka, pili ka Peresidena Obama i keia. Ua kipa aku ʻo ia i ka ʻohana Standing Rock i ka makahiki 2014 - a he mea kakaikahi ka hele ʻana o kahi pelekikena ʻAmelika i kahi hoʻomaha - no laila ʻike pono ʻo ia i kāna hihia. ʻO ia ka mea nāna i hoʻopuka i kēlā kauoha ʻekolu-ʻoihana i ʻike ʻole ʻia mai ka Kalaiaina, Justice a me ka pūʻali e ʻōlelo nei ʻo lākou - e hoʻōki i ka hāʻawi ʻana i ka ʻae. Akā, ma hea lākou e kū nei i kēia manawa? ʻAʻole lākou i ʻōlelo ʻaʻole lākou e hāʻawi i kēia ʻae.

KINI KOMOHANA: ʻAe, ʻo wau ʻo Pelekikena Obama, ua loea ʻo ia i nā ʻano hōʻailona no ka mea hāʻawi ʻo ia i nā haʻiʻōlelo nani. He nani loa, he charismatic. Akā, i ka wā - i ka wā e hiki mai ai ka manawa e hoʻokō a hoʻokō ma ka ʻāina, pinepine ʻo ia - aia kahi hemahema ma laila. E ʻike mākou inā hiki mai ʻo ia.

AMY GOODMAN: No laila he aha kāu e hana ai ma laila?

KINI KOMOHANA: Ke iho nei au e hōʻike i koʻu aloha a me ka lōkahi. Ua kono ʻia au e - Ua hoʻohanohano ʻia au i ke kono ʻia e nā lunakahiko, e like me kou ʻike ʻana i nā lāhui he 200. ʻO kēia ka hui nui loa mai ka makahiki 19 no ka hakakā ʻana o ka poʻe ʻōiwi. A hele mai nei au ma ke ano he kaikunane, ma ke ano he hoa e launa pu me lakou a hele au ilaila a hahai i na kuhikuhi. Makemake au e lilo i mea ikaika no ka maikaʻi ma ia ʻano.

AMY GOODMAN: A ma hope o Ianuali, e aʻo hou ana ʻoe ma Harvard. He aha kāu e aʻo ai? He aha kāu e lilo ai i polopeka?

KINI KOMOHANA: E aʻo i kahi papa ma ke ʻano he polopeka o ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa ʻana i ke akeakamai lehulehu. ʻO koʻu manaʻo, he mea kupanaha. He ʻoluʻolu loa lākou e kono mai iaʻu e hoʻi, pono wau e ʻōlelo.

NERMEEN KANAKA: E wehewehe i ke ʻano o ia mea, ʻo ka lilo ʻana i kumu no ke akeakamai lehulehu.

KINI KOMOHANA: ʻAe, ʻo ia wale nō ke komo ʻana i ka haʻi ʻoiaʻiʻo a me ka nānā ʻana i nā hale a me nā ʻoihana, a e hoʻāʻo e hoʻohālikelike i nā ʻuhane a me nā ʻano o ka poʻe ʻōpio i ke ʻano e makemake ai lākou e kū i nā pilikia e pili ana i ka ka hopena o kēia lāhui a me ka honua. Akā, he kamaʻilio paʻa ʻole, no ka mea, loaʻa iā ʻoe nā makemake conservative, liberals, radical, a pēlā aku ma laila. Akā, e aʻo pū ana au me Roberto Unger ma ke kula kānāwai. Aia au ma ke kula akua e aʻo ana me Du Bois. A mahalo ke kaikunāne ʻo Larry Bobo, a me Skip Gates, a me nā poʻe ʻē aʻe i ʻoluʻolu e kono mai iaʻu e hoʻi mai. No laila, ke kakali nei au i ka noho ʻana ma ka ʻāina ʻo Boston. ʻAʻole ia kaʻu wahi punahele o ka ʻāina. No Kaleponi mai au. Akā, ʻike wau ua ʻike nui ʻoe e pili ana iā Harvard - He puka puka ʻo ia. He puka puka ʻo ia.

AMY GOODMAN: I kēia minuke hope, i kēia minuke hope loa, ʻo Fidel Castro?

KINI KOMOHANA: ʻAe, kaikunāne Castro. ʻO ke Akua maikaʻi, kona hui pū ʻana me nā hakakā ma ʻApelika, me -- mōʻaukala --

AMY GOODMAN: Ua halawai anei oe me ia?

KINI KOMOHANA: ʻAʻole au i hālāwai me ia. Ua hele au i Cuba a ua ʻike ʻia au ma ke ʻano he counterrevolutionary me ka minoʻaka no ka mea ua kāhea wau i ka hoʻololi ʻana o nā elites. He kanaka demokala kalakala au, he democratic socialist. Ke manaʻoʻiʻo nei au he pono e hoʻololi nā alakaʻi. No laila, ua kāhea au i ka huli ʻana o nā elite, a huki lākou iaʻu i loko o ka hale aliʻi. He aha ka mea āu e kamaʻilio mai nei? He hoʻohewa kēia. ʻAe, koʻikoʻi wau, ʻoiaʻiʻo. Akā i ka manawa like, aloha au i ka ʻōnaehana olakino. Aloha au i ka hoʻonaʻauao. Aloha au i kona kū ʻana i mua o ka mana emepera ʻAmelika, 630 mau hoʻāʻo pepehi kanaka, hakakā ʻo ia i ka Bay of Pigs a hōʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo ka mea nui loa, ka nui o ka poʻe Cuban. Ua pilikia lākou ma lalo o Batista. A ua ʻeha lākou ma lalo o Castro e pili ana i kona hoʻopaʻa ʻana i nā leo kūʻē. Akā i ka manawa like, puka hou lākou i ka ikaika. A ke manaʻo nei au he moʻolelo kupanaha kēia o ka poʻe Cuban. Akā, ʻo Castro i nā manawa a pau, noʻu, he kiʻi hoihoi, he kiʻi koa. Akā naʻe, koʻu manaʻo koʻikoʻi loa i ka - o ka hoʻopaʻa ʻana a ʻaʻole hoʻololi, ʻaʻole i loaʻa ke ʻano o ka huli ʻana i ke alakaʻi aʻu i makemake ai e ʻike. Akā, ʻo ia kekahi o nā Communists kipi nui o ke kenekulia 20, a, ma ke ʻano he Kristiano kipi, aloha wau iā ia.

AMY GOODMAN: ʻAe, ma kēlā ʻōlelo, makemake wau e hoʻomaikaʻi iā ʻoe no kou noho pū ʻana me mākou. Kauka Cornel West, Professor Emeritus ma Princeton University. Mahalo nui i kou hui ʻana mai iā mākou. ʻo kēia ʻO ka Democracy Nei! Ke hoʻi mai mākou, e nānā mākou i kekahi o nā koho ʻoihana a Donald Trump, ke kākau ʻōlelo hoʻonaʻauao, a me ke ʻano o ka hoʻonaʻauao lehulehu ma ʻAmelika. E noho pū me mākou.

 


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ʻO Kauka Cornel West, i ʻike ʻia e ka poʻe he nui ʻo Brother West, ʻo ia ka noho ʻo Dietrich Bonhoeffer ma Union Theological Seminary. Ke aʻo nei ʻo Kauka West ma nā hana a Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a me nā papa ma Philosophy of Religion, African American Critical Thought, a me nā ʻano kumuhana like ʻole - e komo pū ana akā ʻaʻole i kaupalena ʻia i, ka papa mele, ke akeakamai, ka politika, ka manaʻo moʻomeheu. , palapala, a me ke mele. Loaʻa iā ia ka makemake e kamaʻilio me nā lehulehu lehulehu i mea e mālama ai i ka hoʻoilina o Martin Luther King, Jr. Ua kākau ʻo ia i nā puke 20 a ua hoʻoponopono ʻo ia i 13. Ua kaulana ʻo ia no kāna mau papa mele, Race Matters and Democracy Matters, a no kāna memo, Brother West: Living and Loving Out Loud. ʻO kāna puke hou loa, ʻo Black Prophetic Fire, ke hāʻawi nei i ka nānā ʻole ʻana i nā alakaʻi ʻAmelika ʻAmelika i ka makahiki ʻumikūmāiwa a me ka iwakālua a me kā lākou mau hoʻoilina ʻike.

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