Ingxoxo noJoão Pedro Stedile, umholi we-MST eBrazil.
- Ushilo ukuthi iBrazil idlula enkathini yobunzima. Kuyini ukuhlaziya kwakho endaweni yamanje yezepolitiki? Yimiphi imiphumela engaba khona yale nhlanganisela yenhlekelele?
– UJoão Pedro Stedile: Ukuhlaziywa kwezinhlangano ezidumile zaseBrazil, eziqoqwe ku-Popular Front yaseBrazil, ehlanganisa izinhlangano zezwe ezicishe zibe amashumi ayisikhombisa, ukuthi iBrazil ibhekene nenkathi yomlando eyinkimbinkimbi kakhulu, ngoba kwenzeka izinhlekelele ezintathu ngesikhathi esisodwa: (1) isimo esibucayi somnotho esakhubaza. umnotho eminyakeni emibili edlule futhi uzoqhubeka ngaphandle kokukhula, ngenqubo eqinile yokususa izimboni, ukwanda kokuntuleka kwemisebenzi kanye nokwehla kwesilinganiso samaholo; (2) inhlekelele yezombangazwe engakaze ibonwe, ngoba inqubo yokhetho yadunwa izinkampani ezixhasa abantu abazongenela ukhetho ngezimali bese zibalawula (izinkampani eziyishumi ezinkulu kunazo zonke ezweni zixhasa ngezimali cishe ama-70% amalungu ephalamende) kanye (3) nenhlekelele yezenhlalo, okuyithiphu. of the iceberg yavela emibhikishweni kaJune 2013 futhi namanje isacashile, ngoba izinkinga zabantu, ikakhulukazi emadolobheni amakhulu, ziya ngokuya ziba zimbi futhi azixazululeki.
Njengoba lesi kuyisimo esibucayi esijulile, kuzothatha isikhathi eside ukusinqoba futhi kuzodinga ubudlelwano obusha bezigaba obungayisa izwe phambili. Okwamanje, alukho uphawu lokwakhiwa kwebhulokhi entsha.
Isigaba esibusayo, amandla amakhulu ezomnotho alawula umnotho wethu (okuyimali esetshenziswayo kanye nezinkampani zamazwe ngamazwe kanye namadlelandawonye azo angaphakathi), sethule uhlelo oluyingqayizivele olubonisa ukubuyela ku-neoliberalism, olusekelwe emaphuzwini angu-3: a) ukulungisa kabusha umnotho wethu ne-US, ngakho-ke, ngokuphambene nezinhlelo zesifunda, ngethemba lokuthi ukuhanjiswa kanye nesivumelwano sohwebo lwamahhala ne-United States kuzoletha izigidigidi zokutshalwa kwezimali ukuze kuvuselelwe umnotho; b) isimo esincane, ngokunqamula konke ukutshalwa kwezimali kunqubomgomo yezenhlalakahle kanye nokubeka eqhulwini kuphela ingqalasizinda ezothunyelwa ngaphandle; c) ukunciphisa amalungelo abasebenzi, abatholwa phakathi nekhulu lamashumi amabili futhi bangcweliswa ku-Constituent Assembly ka-1988. Ngalokhu, balindele ukwehlisa izindleko zabasebenzi futhi bakhulise inzuzo yabo, futhi basabalalise kangcono phakathi kwabalingani babo noma izimbangi zakwamanye amazwe.
Kodwa inkinga ukuthi lolu hlelo alusebenzanga kwenye indawo emhlabeni, hhayi eYurophu, kancane kancane eLatin America. Odabeni lwaseBrazil, abantu sebevele belunqobile lolo hlelo lwe-neoliberal okhethweni olune.
Uhulumeni kaDilma manje ulahlekile ngokuphelele. Bayehluleka ukuxilonga isimo ngoba bavame ukuthatha lesi simo njengenkinga ekhona, futhi wenza iphutha ekubunjweni kwesikhundla songqongqoshe ngokuqoqa ithimba elincane elingamele amaqembu noma izintshisekelo zomphakathi. Futhi yingakho sibambeke enkingeni yezepolitiki engakaze ibonwe. Uhulumeni uphambana nezinhloso zakhe futhi ngalokho ulahlekelwa ukwesekwa komphakathi usuku nosuku.
-Siyini isiphakamiso sokunyakaza okudumile kulesi simo?
-JpS: Thina izinhlangano ezidumile sihlaziye ukuthi, okokuqala, sidinga ukwakha ubumbano olukhulu phakathi kwesigaba sabasebenzi, phakathi kwabalimi, abasebenzi abasengozini kanye nabasebenzi bezinyunyana, wonke umuntu, ukuze sibe nohlelo lokusikhipha kule nkinga.
Sithuthuke emazingeni amaningi. Sakha ubumbano e-Brazil's Popular Front, eyethulwe embuthanweni ngoSepthemba 5 e-Belo Horizonte, enamalungu angaphezu kwezinkulungwane ezimbili nabaholi bezepolitiki.
Sinenkundla encane emele intando yeningi, ngakho-ke simelene nanoma yikuphi ukuketula umbuso okuzama ukuketula uhulumeni wase-Dilma ngisho nababusi abathile abakhohlakele ezifundazweni. Singabantu abavikela amalungelo abasebenzi kanye namalungelo abantu emphakathini. Simelene nokukhipha izimali ezigciniwe zikawoyela, njengoba osopolitiki abalungile befuna. Sivikela uhlelo lokuhlanganiswa kwesifunda futhi sisebenzela uhlelo oludumile lwezinguquko zesakhiwo sesikhathi esimaphakathi.
Kodwa-ke, amandla esigaba sabasebenzi awavezwa nje ezikhaleni zobumbano noma emibhalweni. Imizamo yethu ingavezwa ngokwepolitiki kuphela uma singena emigwaqweni sibhikisha nengcindezi enkulu, futhi ngalolo daba sisashoda kulokho esikudingayo, ngoba emibukisweni eyahlukene esayenza, nakuba yayihleliwe, okwamanje, ibutho kuphela elihambayo; ingxenye enkulu yabantu, isizinda sethu senhlalo, bakubona esofeni labo, futhi lokho kubi kakhulu.
Ngakho futhi sithemba ukufaka amandla engeziwe ukuze sikhiqize, esikhathini esilandelayo, ukukhuphuka kabusha kokunyakaza kwabantu abaningi okungenza isigaba sabasebenzi sibe umlingisi oyinhloko kulesi simo somzabalazo wezigaba, okwamanje, odidekile futhi okhungathekile. kuphela ngenqubomgomo yesikhungo.
-Yikuphi ukuhlaziya okwenziwa umnyakazo wenqubekelaphambili yemikhakha ye-Conservative eBrazil?
-JpS: Esigabeni samanje sokubusa kwezezimali kanye nenhloko-dolobha yamazwe ngamazwe, leyo mingcele yakudala yeriphabhulikhi kanye nenhloko-dolobha yezimboni engxabanweni yentando yeningi ikhona esikhathini esidlule. Inhlokodolobha manje ayidingi amaqembu amaningi noma izikhungo; isebenzisa amandla, hhayi ngemali kuphela kodwa nangethonya elikhulu kakhulu lezomnotho emphakathini, ngokusetshenziswa ngendlela ehlelekile kwemithombo yezindaba (ithelevishini, umsakazo, amaphephandaba), lapho inamandla aphelele. Khona-ke, abezindaba manje sebeyisikhali sepolitiki esihamba phambili sonxiwankulu kanye neqembu labo langempela lemibono. Kungabo lapho ukushumayela kwabo kuphrojekthi yezindinganiso zezenhlalo ezingamanga kanye ne-conservatism. Ngakho-ke, futhi sigcina ukuthi njengengxenye yokwakhiwa kwentando yeningi kanye nokuphuma kule nkinga ekhona manje, kuyadingeka ukuthi sithathe uguquko olujulile lwemithombo yezindaba, senze intando yeningi ukufinyelela kuyo futhi sinikeze abantu nezinhlangano zabo ilungelo lokuthola ulwazi lwangempela. .
Nakuba bekhohlisa, baqamba amanga nsuku zonke futhi bakholise imikhakha esemuva kakhulu nengahlelekile, abasoze bashintsha iqiniso, futhi inqobo nje uma zingekho izixazululo ezibambekayo ezinkingeni zangempela zabantu, inkinga izoqhubeka.
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