U-Kathy Kelly, umxhumanisi we-Voices for Creative Nonviolence, ukhuluma no-Laura Flanders mayelana nezimo zezomnotho nezenhlalakahle e-Afghanistan nokuthi "ukusuka" kwe-US kanye "nesu lezinyawo ezilula" kubukeka kanjani kubantu base-Afghan.
Impi yase-Afghanistan iyimpi ende kunazo zonke eMelika. Futhi engabonakali kakhulu. Emahoreni ayisishiyagalombili ehlotshaniswa nendoda eyayizoba nguNobhala Wezokuvikela olandelayo, indaba ayizange ivele.
Akekho uSenator waseRiphabhlikhi owayenombuzo owodwa esihlokweni sikaChuck Hagel, noma ngabe, uma kuqinisekisiwe, uzoba nesibopho sokuqeda ubukhona bamasosha aseMelika lapho. Futhi imibuzo embalwa evela kumaDemocrats ibingengcono kakhulu. Begxile ngokuphelele esiphethweni samasosha ase-US, bakushaya indiva isiphetho sabantu ezweni elahlaselwa yi-US eminyakeni eyishumi edlule.
U-Kathy Kelly wakhe uhlobo oluhluke kakhulu lobudlelwano nabantu base-Afghanistan. Phakathi nohambo oluyi-12 oluya kulelo zwe njengesivakashi esimenyiwe se-Afghan Peace Volunteers, uhlala nabantu bendawo endaweni yabasebenzi base-Kabul. Unake lokho abantu base-Afghan abakudingayo nabakushoyo. I Umxhumanisi weVoices for Creative Nonviolence, kucace njengosuku ukuthi, okungenani kubantu base-Afghan, impi ayipheli, futhi, kanjalo nokuzibandakanya kwe-US. Into ebonakala isiphelile wukunaka komphakathi.
"Ngicabanga ukuthi i-United States enayo, iningi lomphakathi wase-US, iwuhlobo lwe-amnesia, umuzwa wokumangala," kusho uKelly lapho sikhuluma ezinsukwini ngemuva kokuvakasha kwakhe kwakamuva. "Kunomqondo wokuthi akukho esingakwenza ngakho, bheka ukuthi sizame kangakanani, futhi lokho akulona iqiniso."
I-US kungenzeka ikhiphe amasosha amaningi, kepha ukungqubuzana e-Afghanistan kuyaqhubeka, kanjalo nesikweletu saseMelika kuleso sizwe. Wathi uKelly:
Bheka ukuthi bangaki abantu: Osonkontileka bezokuphepha, abantu bezempi, izinhlangano ezikhiqiza izikhali, abahlomuli bempi benza izizumbulu zemali kuyilapho abafelokazi nezintandane bekhushulelwa entabeni ukuze bahlale ezindlini ezinekamelo elilodwa elingenamanzi.
Le nhlolokhono yaqoshwa eNew York. Ividiyo ehleliwe ingase ibukwe ngokugcwele ku- GRITtv.org.
U-Laura Flanders: I-2013 iqala amasosha ase-US ngohlobo lwesibonakaliso sokuphuma ezweni lase-Afghanistan, umqondo wokuthi amasosha amaningi ase-US azobe engasekho ekupheleni kwe-2014, futhi mhlawumbe ngokushesha nje kule ntwasahlobo. Uyini u-2013, futhi lokho uMongameli u-Obama akubiza ngokuthi "isu lokunyathelisa elilula" libukeka kanjani kubantu base-Afghan?
Kathy Kelly: Hhayi-ke, miningi imibuzo ephakanyiswe umqondo wokuhoxa. Impela abantu bayesaba, ngoba uma kukhulunywa ngokuhoxa mhlawumbe ngingasho ukuthi esikhathini esingangonyaka nesigamu esedlule lokhu okwaqala njengokuthutheleka kwabantu sekuphenduke ukuthelwa nje kwezikhali nezinhlamvu nokuqeqesha abantu ukusebenzisa izikhali. futhi abantu bayesaba kakhulu ... Wonke amaqembu ezizwe noma amaqembu ezizwe aye azizwa, kahle wonke umuntu uqoqa izikhali, nathi kufanele sikwenze.
Ngabe "izinyathelo ezilula" zase-United States zingaba yini? Ngicabanga ukuthi i-United States ine futhi izoba nentshisekelo kakhulu emigwaqweni evumela i-United States ukuthi ibe yingxenye yokukhipha amaminerali ayigugu, amafutha emvelo, igesi yemvelo ephuma e-Afghanistan. Ngicabanga ukuthi i-United States inentshisekelo enkulu yokuba yi-counterpoint eChina naseRussia. Abafuni i-China ne-Russia, ukwenza isibonelo, ibe nokutholakala kwezinto zokubasa ezishibhile namagesi emvelo nezinsimbi eziyigugu.
LF: Wagcina nini lapho, futhi yayinjani impilo yabantu base-Afghan owawuhlala nabo?
KK: Hhayi-ke, ngangilapho kusukela phakathi no-December 2012 kuya maphakathi no-January 2013, futhi ngiyazi ukuthi lokhu engisanda kukuchaza kuyisithombe esibi, kodwa izinsuku eziningi ngangizizwa ngijabule kakhulu. Sasigoqa izingubo zethu zokulala futhi siphendule ngokushesha igumbi ebesilala kulo silibeke endaweni ukuze sibe nesidlo sasekuseni esilula nesisheshayo futhi ebelizoba ikilasi lapho laba bafundi abashisekayo bezama ukufunda isiNgisi, bese behla bafike abathungi.
Laura, ngicabanga ukuthi ngangikutshelile esikhathini esidlule ukuthi izingane eziyi-100 zafa ngenxa yobusika obuqinile e-Afghanistan ngo-2012. Kwakuyihlazo elibi futhi lisakazeka ku-2013. Kusukela entwasahlobo, besilokhu sithintana nabesifazane base-Afghan abeza sikhala sithi, Ngicabanga ukuthi ngizolahlekelwa umqondo wami. Ngicabanga ukuthi ngiyahlanya, ingqondo yami iyantengantenga. Futhi uthi, Sakina, yini inkinga? Sakina, yini engalungile? Futhi kuhlale kuyimpendulo efanayo: Angikwazi ukondla izingane zami. Bese kuthi uma ubuza, Awu, unani? Isinkwa esidala netiye ngaphandle koshukela. Ngakho-ke, amaVolontiya Okuthula Ase-Afghan aguqule ikhaya lawo laba indawo okungaba indawo yokusebenzela yabathungi. Kungase kuzwakale kungenangqondo, kodwa amakhethini akhuphuka, abesifazane begqoke ama-burka kanti abanye bengagqokile; abantu bezizwe ezihlukene bahlangana ndawonye futhi bafunda indlela yokuthunga kule mishini yokuthunga yakudala. Abakwenzile akukwazanga ukuncintisana nemikhiqizo evela ezimbonini zasePakistan noma zamaShayina ngakho, lapho amakhaza esondela sabuza, Udinga ini? bahle bathi: Nokho, esikudingayo kanye nalokho wonke umuntu akudingayo yizingubo zokulala ezisindayo. Futhi sathi, Zenze, zenze. Sizothola abesizwe ukuthi babakhokhele. Benze ezingu-2,000 zalawa makhithi amakhulu, asindayo โฆ.
Kwakujabulisa ukubona lokho kwenzeka futhi kuwumsebenzi omuhle. Umfelandawonye wabathungi uyaqhubeka futhi ngicabanga ngawo wonke umama, cishe ngehora lesi-2 ezimpondweni, athumele ingane yakhe ebhilidini ukuze ifundele abantu abancane ukuze bafunde izibalo nesiNgisi. Yisigameko esimatasa kakhulu, esijabulisa kakhulu. Kwesinye isikhathi sizovele siwe sibuke imuvi ebusuku kakhulu. Ziningi izingxoxo. Kubantu abaningi kukhona lokhu kukhathazeka okwedlulele.
Ngisanda kuvuka ngezindaba zokuthi bonke bavuswe ukuqhuma okukhulu, futhi umnyango wokulawulwa komgwaqo uhlaselwe amaTaliban eKabul - okuyizindaba ezinesibindi neziqinile - futhi ngesonto eledlule inguqulo yabo yeCIA. - INational Directorate of Security - ihlaselwe. Ngakho-ke, akubukeki kukuhle kakhulu ngekusasa le-Kabul futhi i-Kabul ibikade iyibhamuza.
LF: Sizwa okuningi mayelana nesimo sezempi, ikakhulukazi isimo sebutho lase-US e-Afghanistan; Angicabangi ukuthi abantu abalazi ngempela iqiniso lezomnotho labantu base-Afghanistan namuhla, kanye nelemvelo.
KK: Nokho, iBhange Lomhlaba lithi amaphesenti angu-36 abantu asezingeni lobumpofu noma aseduze nalo. Ukuntuleka kwemisebenzi kuphezulu kakhulu, noma abantu abaningi bangase babe nohlobo oluthile lomsebenzi, kodwa akwanele ukuba baphile.
Ngokungangabazeki nje, ngahamba nezintombi ezimbili nezinsizwa ezimbili ohlotsheni lokuvakasha komphakathi ukuze ngibone lapho imikhaya yabo ihlala khona entabeni (eyayibukeka njengentaba kimi), futhi ngemizuzu engu-20, kwadingeka ngithi yima. Inhliziyo yami yayishaya ngamandla. Ngakho, sayeka; Ngaphefumula, kodwa kwathi sisamile, ngabheka, ngabona laba besifazane bembethe izingubo ezifiphele; kubanda amakhaza; banezitsha ezinkulu zamanzi emakhanda abo nasemahlombe abo. Yilaba abafelokazi nezintandane ezidudulwa [entabeni ukuze ziphile] ngoba uma uya phezulu, kuyancipha ukufinyelela kunoma yiluphi uhlobo lwamanzi ahamba ngamapayipi, ngakho-ke irenti yehla, futhi zihlala ezindlini zekamelo elilodwa. [Laba besifazane] bathengisa ama-alimondi usuku lonke, baqhekeze ama-alimondi, basebenzisa amagobolondo e-alimondi ukuze babase (ngoba abakwazi ukuthenga izinkuni noma amalahle) bese bethengisa ama-alimondi emakethe. Nokho, okungenani banophahla phezu kwekhanda labo. Kunababaleki abasha abangama-400 abaxoshwa yimpi e-Afghanistan nsuku zonke. Ingane eyodwa kweziyisihlanu ayiphili ngaphezu kweminyaka emihlanu; owesifazane oyedwa kwabangu-11 uyafa ngesikhathi ebeletha. Konke lokhu kwenzeka ngenkathi i-United States ichithe ama-dollar ayizigidi eziyizinkulungwane ezimbili - $2 billion ngesonto โ ngokuba khona kwayo kwezempi yase-US. Asisenawo amandla okuhlanjalazwa na?
LF: Ikakhulu esikuzwayo e-US namuhla ukuthi impi esiyijwayele yile i-ramping phansi. Ingabe kunjalo?
KK: Hhayi-ke, ngicabanga ukuthi abantu abaningi baseMelika bazokulangazelela ukucabanga impi idla lubi; kwakuyimpi yokusiza abantu, sisize inqwaba yabesifazane nezinganeโฆ. Lokhu kwenza intukuthelo yami yase-Ireland ishaye uphahla. KULUNGILE, kuzobiza kancane ukungagcini izizinda zamasosha ezinkulu, ezinkulu ezithe chithi saka, kodwa i-United States isiza ekwakheni amajele amathathu amasha, futhi i-Camp Integrity iyikamu elingamahektare ayishumi elakhiwa yi-United States, liqasha iNkampani yangaphambili yeBlackwater. โฆ
LF: Ama-mercenaries.
KK: Yebo, abadumile ... balahlwe yicala lokubulala izakhamuzi zase-Afghan, abalahlwe amacala ukweba izikhali bezempi yase-United States, kodwa manje bathole inkontileka yokwakha ikamu lapho abantu bezoqeqeshwa khona ngamasu okusebenza okukhethekile.
Ngicabanga ukuthi, isabelomali esincane, kodwa akusho ukuthi amaTaliban ngeke abe nesizathu esihle sokusho abangakholwa, abezizwe, amasosha asentshonalanga, i-NATO, i-ISAF [International Security Assistance Force]; bonke basekhona, ngakho-ke sizoqhubeka nokulwa. Sizolwa futhi sizoqhubeka nokuthumela amabhomu azibulale. Banomugqa omude, omude wabantu abafole balungele ukuba amabhomu azibulale. Babonakala bethola ukwesekwa okukhulu kwamanye amazwe. Manje i-United States ithi amazwe esibambisene nawo anale "Imephu Yomgwaqo Eya Ekuthuleni": iSaudi Arabia, Pakistan, Qatar, Turkey kanye neBrithani. Kunzima ukuthi abantu base-Afghanistan bakuzwe lokho.
LF: Kungani?
KK: Isibonelo, iPakistan ingakolunye uhlangothi lwe-Hindu Kush Mountains - kubikwa ukuthi, idla njalo kuma-Taliban fighters amasha. Muva nje kube nesibhicongo Ingxenye ye-103 Ama-Afghan afuna isiphephelo [lapho]. Kwakuyi-Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, iqembu lezidlamlilo lasePakistan, elathi linesibopho. Ngakho, abantu abazizwa bephephile; abazi ukuthi bangathemba umuntu kuphi. Abanye bathi, 'bheka bekungelula entsheni yethu ezama ukufunda ulimi lwakho, isiNgisi, manje sesizofunda isiShayina?' Abazi ukuthi bazomtholaphi umngani.
Kwake kwaba khona ucingo noNoam Chomsky kanye namaVolontiya Okuthula Ase-Afghan engihlala nawo, futhi ngicabanga ukuthi uyazithanda lezi zingane, futhi omncane wathi, Solwazi uNowam, ucabangani ngokunxeshezelwa? Futhi bengihlale ngicabanga ukuthi impendulo kaSolwazi Noam Chomsky inengqondo. Uthe, "Lowo ngumbuzo obaluleke kakhulu. Noma yimuphi umphakathi onobuntu, ophucuzekile uzokhokha izinxephezelo ngokuhlupheka okudalwe e-Afghanistan."Akuyona i-United States kuphela. YiBrithani; yiPakistan; yi-Iran; yiSoviet Union yangaphambili. Zonke izikhali zabo zigcwele lelo zwe, futhi bonke baye bazama ukuphanga nokuxhaphaza.
LF: Ngabe kukhona okunye abantu base-US abakweleta ama-Afghan?
KK: Hhayi-ke, ngicabanga ukuthi sibakweleta ukuxolisa. Sibakweleta [ukuzifundisa ngokwenele] ukuze sikwazi ukuthi, "Siyaxolisa, siyaxolisa kakhulu." Sekufe abantu abayizigidi ezimbili kulelo zwe phakathi namashumi eminyaka empi. Sandisa impi ngeminye iminyaka eyishumi, futhi ingabe babenomthwalo wemfanelo ngo-Osama Bin Laden? Ingabe singanikeza noma yisiphi isizathu esicacile sokuthi kungani phakathi neminyaka eyishumi sanweba ubukhona bethu, amasosha ethu, amaRandi ayizigidi eziyizinkulungwane ezimbili ngesonto? Futhi yini ongakusho ngayo: Ingqalasizinda isembi kakhulu; imvelo, umoya, amanzi mabi. Mina ngokwami โโngathola inyumoniya kulolu hambo lokugcina, futhi ngicabanga ukuthi ngangisebunyeni nengxenye yezwe futhi ngathola imithi elwa namagciwane; kuyinto ehlukile eyesabekayo, ngempela.
LF: Enye yezimpikiswano (futhi zaziningi ezazenzelwe ukungenelela kwe-US e-Afghanistan) [ukuthola] amalungelo abesifazane base-Afghan. Ingabe siyabashiya manje, njengoba sihamba, sinamalungelo engeziwe, ngokuvikeleka okwengeziwe?
KK: Uhulumeni kaMongameli uKarzai ubungeke ube khona ngaphandle kokusekelwa yi-United States. Uhulumeni wakhe uzamile ukujabulisa futhi wabeka izinduna zempi ezahlukahlukene, abantu abahlukahlukene ngokwedlulele nabemithetho eqinile (ngiqonde ukuthi cishe wonke amazinga ekhabhinethi kangqongqoshe yinkosi yempi yangaphambili) ngakho-ke, kukhona umuntu okwazile ukumcindezela ukuthi asayine idokhumenti manje. sabuyisela emuva amalungelo abantu besifazane ngokujulile. Owesifazane akakwazi ukulingana namadoda emsebenzini futhi [indoda] ingakwazi ukuphoqa owesifazane ashade naye noma abesifazane abaningi - ucansi ngokufunwa - ngeke ayiphike; akakwazi ukweqa umyalo wakhe; lokhu kungumthetho. Futhi lokho ukuhlehlisa impela. Kungenzeka ukuthi kwenziwa amaTaliban, kodwa useyiguqule yaba iqiniso langempela lomthetho. Ngakho-ke, ubungeke usho ukuthi sekulula kubantu besifazaneโฆ. Izibalo zinonya kakhulu kwabesifazane ezindaweni zasemakhaya. Ngisho ukuthi ukufa ubeletha ngaphandle kombelethisi, uphile ngaphansi kwezimo ezilandela i-sub-Saharan Africa ngokuhlupheka. Lokhu kuyinto embi kwabesifazane; izimpilo zabo zinzima kangangokuthi isikhathi sokuphila siphakathi kweminyaka engama-42 nengama-45 kowesifazane.
LF: Ingabe i-US iyasika futhi iyahamba ngempela?
KK: Hhayi-ke, ngicabanga ukuthi imboni yezempi yase-United States ingasho ukuthi asizange silahlekelwe. Senza imali eningi empini yase-Afghanistan futhi izinkampani zenze kahle. Futhi mhlawumbe umbutho wezempi wekhulunyaka lama-21 uzobabangela ukuthi basebenzise kabusha kancane kancane, kodwa benze imali eningi ngokuthengisa izikhali, imikhiqizo yokwenza izikhali nezinto zempi. Futhi, imboni yezokuphepha, lowo omunye umlawuli omkhulu emphakathini wethu onawo wonke amajele ethu nakho konke ukugcizelela kwethu kwezokuphepha. Nokho, osonkontileka benza imali eningi. Ngakho-ke, ngicabanga ukuthi kungaba okungalungile ukusho ukuthi uhlobo lokaputeni bezimboni ezweni lakithi olulahlekile e-Afghanistan, kodwa ngaphandle kwabo, yiziphi izinzuzo ongazibona? Emapayipini? Lokhu mhlawumbe ingxenye ye-intshi kumephu yokwelulwa kwepayipi elakhiwe yi-UNOCAL kusukela ngeminyaka yawo-1990s - ipayipi laseTurkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan kanye neNdiya. Abakayakhi imigwaqo abathi bazoyakha. Imizila kasilika emisha ka-Hilary Clinton - ayikho. Kunenqwaba yemicabango yabo ngalokho okungenzeka kwenzekile futhi ngicabanga ukuthi empeleni iChina izobhekwa njengezwe okungenzeka libe namandla okusimamisa, noma mhlawumbe iRussia. Futhi ukuze i-United States ihlangane manje ne-Pakistan kanye ne-Saudi Arabia - izici ze-Wahabi e-Saudi Arabia - nama-jihadist aqinile, ama-fundamentalist jihadist athatha ubudlelwano bamandla e-Pakistan - ngeke kubhekwe njengenzuzo uma ukucabanga ngokuvikeleka kwabantu base-United States. Lokho uhulumeni wase-United States akunqobile ukunganaki komphakathi wase-US futhi bayakudinga lokho ukuze basingenise empini elandelayo.
LF: Ngaphambi kokuthi sifinyelele empini elandelayo, ingabe amasosha ase-US ayahamba ngempela? U-Barack Obama ukhuluma ngawo wonke amasosha aphume ekupheleni kuka-2014; U-Leon Panetta ukhulume cishe phakathi nonyaka ukuthi amasosha azophuma empini. Ingabe lokho kusho ukuthi sebehambile ngempela?
KK: Ngicabanga ukuthi uma uKarzai ngandlela thize ekwazile ukwenza iLoya Jirga ithi amasosha ase-United States awakwazi ukuvikeleka. Uma nganoma yiliphi ithuba ehluleka ukunikeza ukuzivikela kunoma yimaphi amasosha ase-US, ngicabanga ukuthi i-US isiphumile lapho. Ngizothatha uBarack Obama ngezwi lakhe. E-Iraq, lokho kwenzeka: abazange bakuthole ukuzivikela futhi bonke baphuma ngaphandle koMnyango Wezwe kanye nabantu ababevikela uMnyango Wezwe, futhi izimpi zezimpi zombango ziyaqhubeka e-Iraq ebuhlungu kakhulu namuhla. Kunzima ukuqagela ukuthi ikusasa liyoba yini nge-Afghanistan. Ukuqagela kwami โโโโkuphakathi kwamasosha amathathu nayi-10,000 azosala nokuthi osonkontileka bezokuphepha bazobe begcwele. Uyazi konke ukugibela kwendiza okuya lapho kanye nalo lonke uhambo lwendiza olubuyela emuva - lolu bekuwuhambo lwami lwesi-12 - izingxenye ezintathu kwezine zendiza zigcwele osonkontileka bezokuphepha. Bashonaphi bonke? Anginalwazi. Kunenqwaba yabantu basentshonalanga abaya lapho ukuyoqeqesha abanye abantu ukubulala nokusebenzisa usongo namandla. Khonamanjalo, ukuphepha kwezempilo, ukuvikeleka kokudla, ukuphepha kwezemfundo, ukuvikeleka kwemisebenzi - labo bayaxoshwa.
LF: U-Barack Obama ukhuluma "ngesu lokuhamba ngezinyawo okulula;" akakhulumi ngalokho okusesibhakabhakeni. Kunjani kulezi zinsuku kubantu base-Afghan esifundeni sasePakistan, abantu abaphila ngaphansi kokuhlaselwa ngama-drone?
KK: Uyazi, ngale kweKabul, abangani bethu basitshela ukuthi kuyethusa kakhulu. Izingane, zizwa i-drone phezulu uma ziyolala ebusukuโฆ. Umyeni kadadewabo womngane wami wabulawa kanye nengane eneminyaka emihlanu ubudala - unina usazama ukumchazela ukuthi ikhompuyutha yabulala uyise.
Kunokukhathazeka okukhulu. Umuntu angangqongqoza emnyango wakho, futhi ngokwesiko, uma lowo muntu ecela ukudla noma isiphuzo, umnike. Hhayi-ke, uma kuyi-Taliban evela esikrinini komunye umuntu ose-Creech Air Force Base, e-Hancock Field noma e-Whiteman Air Force Base, lapho-ke ungase ube yisisulu sokugasela ebusuku noma okubi nakakhulu - i-drone ehlomile ingakhomba indlu yakho. Abantu bayazi laphaya ukuthi uMongameli Obama uhlangana ndawonye ngoLwesibili, abantu [amashumi amabili] ngosuku ucingo lwenkomfa ukuhlanganisa uhlu lwabantu abazobulawa ngalelo sonto. Noma yimuphi umuntu omusha oneminyaka ephakathi kuka-15 no-30 uyafaneleka ukuba kulolo hlu. Kunokwesaba okukhulu nokushuba kwesimo akunandawo yokubalekela, akukho nokucasha.
LF: Uthini kubantu bakuleli zwe abasho kahle, okungenani kungcono kunokuba amabutho ethu ahlomile phansi, abeke izimpilo zabo engcupheni, abantu mhlawumbe abafunda imibiko yeNew York Times ethi ukukhomba sekutholile. okungcono kakhulu manje, sehlise inani labantu abalimalayo?
KK: Ngicabanga ukuthi ukwanda yigama okufanele ulihlole. Kuzokwenzekani emhlabeni wethu? Kunesikhathi lapho i-United States nje yayinebhomu lenuzi, futhi sibheke manje. Ngicabanga ukuthi lawa ma-drones anezikhali azoba ngamazwe emhlabeni wonke, futhi abantu base-United States bazoba nesizathu esikhulu sokwesaba. Ngicabanga ukuthi bangase bathi, i-blowback, kodwa futhi sesiyini, abantu abafaka konke ukuphepha kwethu emgqonyeni wesibhamu? Uma ubheka izibalo zezempilo, imfundo kanye nokuntuleka kwemisebenzi kuleli, asenzi kahle kangako.
LF: Ngakho-ke, sizwa okuningi mayelana neWashington ebheke ekupheleni kuka-2013 kanye nonyaka ozayo? Ngabe ama-Afghan awubheka kanjani unyaka ongaphambi kwawo njengoba siqala u-2013?
KK: Ngicabanga ukuthi kunokuningi ukuthuthumela ezweni lonke. Ngokweqiniso, ngike ngaba seKabul futhi iningi lentsha engike ngaba nayo amaHazaras, iqembu elicwaswa kakhulu elivela eBamyan. Amaphesenti angamashumi ayisithupha nanhlanu ezwe angaphansi kweminyaka engu-25 ubudala, futhi nakuba bonke betshelwa, thola izikhali, balungele ukusebenzisa izikhali, ngisabeka ithemba elithile lokuthi bangase babone ukuthi kuzuzisa abanye abantu. ngaphandle kwe-Afghanistan ukuze bazishise ngempi yombango. Mhlawumbe, kunokuba bazixoshe, babe ababaleki, banqunywe izitho noma bafe bebancane, bangase bafune ukusho ukuthi bangathola izindlela zokuqhubekela phambili. Yilokho amaVolontiya Okuthula Ase-Afghan aphathelene nakho; bazama ngempela njalo ukuhlanganisa amaTajik namaHazara. Bazama ukuba nomphakathi ophilayoโฆ. Abathungi bonke bavela ezizindeni ezihlukene. Ngiyababona ngezinye izikhathi: Balwa njengohlanya, kodwa bayakwazi ngempela ukuhlala ndawonye unyaka wonke nale cooperative yomsiki wengqephu, futhi amakilasi esiNgisi ahlanganisa izingane ezivela ezizindeni ezihlukahlukene. Ngakho-ke ngibona kule microcosm eyodwa encane umcibisholo okhomba okungenzeka ukuhamba-kulokho okubukeka kuyisimo esiyingozi kakhulu. Angifuni ukuyinciphisa. Ngiqonde ukuthi ngicabanga ukuthi ngizoyitshelani le ntsha uma kuqubuka impi yombango eKabul, ngingathi gijima, gijimani ngokushesha ngangokunokwenzeka.
LF: Kungenzeka lokho?
KK: Njengamanje, kubonakala sengathi [i-Taliban] igomela kakhulu, futhi siyakubona lokho ezindabeni zakamuva. Ngingathi lona bekuwunyaka obalulekile wemfundo ezungeze i-Afghanistan kubantu abasha. Ngethemba ngempela ukuthi bangafinyelela omunye komunye. Kungase kuzwakale kungenangqondo, kodwa bangase bazibonele ikusasa elingcono uma bengazibambi izikhali baqale ukudubula futhi bavume ukwenza lokho okushiwo izinduna zempi esezivele zinegazi ezandleni zabo. Lokho kuyi-oda elihle kakhulu. Amaphesenti amathathu ezwe ane-internet - abanye bathi mhlawumbe amaphesenti ayisithupha - pho izophumaphi le mfundo?
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