UCindy Sheehan umama
kwe Spc. U-Casey Austin Sheehan, KIA 04/04/04. Ungumsunguli we
I-Gold Star Families for Peace, iqembu elimelene nempi elihlangene ne-Military
Imindeni Iyakhuluma, Ama-Veteran Wokuthula, kanye ne-Iraq Veteran Against
iMpi. Bazohoxiswa ngokushesha kwawo wonke amasosha
I-Iraq.
UJOSHUA FRANK: Kungani unqume ukuhlangana โnempiโ
ukunyakaza? Ucabanga ukuthi bekungaba namandla kakhudlwana uku
qhubeka nokwakha umnyakazo womndeni wokulila komama, obaba,
abafazi, nabayeni bezigoga nababulewe e-Iraq?
CINDY SHEEHAN: Ngicabanga ukuthi labo bahamba ndawonye, โโempeleni. Ngasungula i
inhlangano ebizwa ngokuthi i-Gold Star Families for Peace (www.gsfp.org).
Siyiqembu elimelene nempi elihlangene neMilitary Families Speak Out,
AmaVeteran Wokuthula, kanye ne-Iraq Veteran Against the War. Asimelene nempi
kanye nokuhoxiswa kwawo wonke amasosha e-Iraq. Noma yiliphi iqembu
oweseka isikhundla sethu wamukelekile ukujoyina nathi.
Abasekeli bempi abaningi bakuphikile ukuxhumana phakathi kwethu namanye amazwe
inqubomgomo kanye namasosha asengozini ase-Iraq nase-Afghanistan. UTony
UBlair ukuphikile ukuxhumana phakathi kwenqubomgomo yezangaphandle kanye nehlobo
amabhomu eLondon. Ubonani?
Ngicabanga ukuthi inqubomgomo yezangaphandle yase-US inesibopho ngokuphelele ku-9/11,
kanye nokuqhunyiswa kwamabhomu kwakamuva eLondon. Izinqubomgomo zethu zokubulala
Ama-Iraqi angenacala, ama-Afghanis, asekela ukuthunjwa kwePalestine,
izisekelo zethu ezihlala njalo eSaudi Arabia, ukuba khona kwethu eLebanon, yethu
ukwesekwa kwe-Shah, ukusekela uSaddam nokumnika ama-WMD asetshenzisiwe
kubantu bakhe. Ngicabanga ukuthi lolu hlobo lokuziphatha luqhubezela inzondo ngakubo
I-US Lona nje wonke umbono wami, kunjalo. Angiyena usopolitiki
noma usomaqhinga wezempi. Ngiyisakhamuzi nje ngizwakalisa imibono yami.
Okubhebhezela impi e-Iraq namuhla kuyisisekelo se-geopolitical yethu
izithakazelo: amafutha. Ucabanga ukuthi lokhu kuwathinta kanjani amathuba ethu njengomnyakazo
ukuqeda impi yamanje, uma kuqhathaniswa nalokho okwadingeka ukuqeda iVietnam
Impi?
Ngicabanga ukuthi ngaphezu kukawoyela, kuhlobene nezimboni zamasosha
eziyinkimbinkimbi u-Eisenhower asixwayise ngazo. Kufanele basigcine besaba
wento noma othile. Ngeminyaka yawo-1950 kanye nama-60s kwakungamaKhomanisi.
Salahlekelwa yilokho kugxilwe kukho ngawo-1970โngakho uRumsfeld, uCheney, noPerle,
kanye namanye ama-neocons, kugcinwe lokho kuphila. Ngokuwa
oDongeni lwaseBerlin, sasidinga isitha esisha; manje sekungamaphekula...bona
ziyi-"ist" du jour. Akunakwenzeka ngempela ukulwa
"ama-ists" kanye "nama-isms." Ngeke nje ukwenze.
Konke esikuthola ekugcineni ububi obude nempi engadingekile futhi
ukufa.
Ukhetho lwamaphakathi nonyaka ka-2006 seluseduze futhi lukhona
ambalwa ama-Democrats e-pro-war azokhethwa kabusha. Ethandwa kakhulu yilezi
UHillary Clinton eNew York noNancy Pelosi eCalifornia. Lapho
kuwukuqagela kancane emibuthanweni yezishoshovu okungenzeka ukuthi uyayihlela
ukuze uthathe okukodwa noma okunye kumaprimaries azayo eDemokhrasi.
Ingabe lokhu kuyiqiniso?
Ngicabanga ukuthi uNancy Pelosi uyashintsha iculo lakhe, kodwa hhayi cishe ngokushesha ngokwanele.
Ngike ngahlangana naye izikhathi ezimbalwa. Angicabangi ukugijima
ngokumelene noHillary noma uNancy noma uDianne Feinstein, ngaleyo ndaba. Uma
bekungaba noma ngubani, nokho, bekungaba nguFeinstein ngoba ngingowaseCalifornia
futhi ngikholwa ukuthi ungumshisekeli onengekayo. Abantu bebelokhu becela
mina ukugijima, kodwa ngicabanga ukuthi ngingenza okuhle ngaphandle kuka
ngaphakathi.
If
amaDemocrat ayaqhubeka nokusekela ukuhlasela kanye nomsebenzi olandelayo,
uzosekela iDemocrat ngo-2008 kumongameli? Noma uzonamathela
ngesizathu sakho futhi usekele ikhandidethi elifana noRalph Nader noma i
I-anti-war Libertarian noma ikhandidethi ye-Green Party?
Ngeke ngisekele iDemocrat esekela impi. Ngizosekela noma iyiphi impi
ikhandidethi. Ngiyazisola ngokusekela uJohn Kerry ngo-2004. Ukunyakaza
akazuzanga lutho ekukhethweni kwakhe. Nokho, ngicabanga ukuthi uKerry angase
ashintshe indlela akhuluma ngayo ngempi.
Imaphi amaphuzu engcindezi abalulekile owabona eza kuwo
inhlangano yokulwa nempi?
Ireferendamu yase-Iraq kanye nokhetho kuseqhulwini. Thina ngempela
sifuna ukuthi inhlolovo iphumelele, kodwa asinalo ithemba lokho
kuzoba njalo. Sisadinga ukudalula ukwehluleka kokuphatha kukaBush
kanye nalezo zikaKhongolose kanye nabezindaba. Kuzodingeka sigcine
befuna ukuhoxa ngokugcwele kwamasosha โmanje.โ Lokho
kubaluleke kakhulu.
Izishoshovu zingayihumusha kanjani imibhikisho yazo ephikisana nempi
ngaphezu kokumasha eralini yangezimpelasonto?
Abantu abaningi badela okuningi ukuze babe seWashington ngoSepthemba
24. Uma izishoshovu zokuthula zifuna ngempela ukwenza izinguquko kufanele
baqale ukufaka ingcindezi enkulu ezikhulwini abazikhethile. Kunjalo,
yonke into kufanele ingabi nodlame ngoba sizama ukudala
izwe elinokuthula nobudlova abukwazi ukuletha ukuthulaโkungakhathaliseki ukuthi kwenzekani
okushiwo uGeorge W. Bush nabangane bakhe.
Yimuphi umphumela wokugcina emsebenzini wakho ocabanga ukuthi ungawufaneleka
isikhumbuzo sendodana yakho uCasey?
Kudingeka silethe amabutho ethu ekhaya. Asikwazi ukuvumela noma iyiphi impi
i-imperialism noma umhobholo okufanele kuliwe ngamagama ethu. Yilokhu thina
isidingo sokuqhubeka nokulwela. Hhayi nje ngo-Casey, kodwa kubo bonke, kukho kokubili
izinhlangothi, eziye zabhubha kule mpi engekho emthethweni, enokuziphatha okubi.
UJoshuwa
UFrank umbhali we Shiyeka phandle! Indlela Ama-Liberals Asize Ngayo Ukukhetha UGeorge
W. Bush (Isibindi Esivamile).