V (owayesakuba nguEve Esner), umbhali we I-Vagina Monologues, ixubusha ukuzimela geqe, ukudilizwa kosolusapho, nokusukela ihlabathi elilunge ngakumbi.
Ukubala sisenzo sokwenza. Yiloo nto u-V (owayesakuba ngu-Eve Ensler), umbhali, umlweli, kunye nombhali wemidlalo yeqonga aqala ukuyenza ngexesha elizolileyo le-Covid. Iziphumo yingxelo yakhe entsha ethengiswa kakhulu. Ukujongana kwakhona yingqokelela yemibongo, iprozi, intandabuzo, kunye nezicatshulwa zokudlala eziqala ngeminyaka yoo-1980. Ubiza "ukubala" i-antidote kwi-fascism, kwaye ekugqibeleni ayisiyiyo into esinokuyenza ngamnye wethu yedwa. I-V yimbasa kaTony kunye ne-Obie-impumelelo. Umdlalo wakhe, I-Vagina Monologues, iqhutywe kumazwe angaphezu kwe-140 kwaye ibangele intshukumo yokunqanda ubundlobongela, i-V-Day, egqiba iminyaka engama-25 kulo nyaka.
ULaura Flanders: Sithetha ngokuninzi ekufuneka siqwalasele ngalo mzuzu. Inyikima enkulu ehlasele iSyria emva kweminyaka eli-12 yemfazwe kunye nezohlwayo ezikhohlakeleyo eTurkey. Uhlaselo oluqhubekayo kubasetyhini e-Iran, e-Afghanistan. Imfazwe eqhubekayo eCongo kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo imfazwe yaseYurophu. Yintoni okanye ngubani osengqondweni yakho?
V (Owayesakuba nguEve Ensler): Uqale ukugubungela isiseko, kwaye ungakhange ukhankanye ukutyhala ngokuchasene nokufundisa abantu beli lizwe ngembali yethu yase-Afrika yaseMelika kunye neengcinga ekufuneka abantu baziqhelanise nazo ukuze siqwalasele ibali leli lizwe, ngoko ke thina ungaqhubeki uphindaphinda inkxwaleko, kunye nobungangamela abamhlophe, kunye nokubandezeleka okuqhubekayo kwama-Afrika aseMelika. Zininzi izinto ekufuneka sijongane nazo kunye nezalathiso ezininzi apho ukunqongophala kuqinisekisa ukuphindwa kwezo zinto zoyikekayo ezenzeke kwixesha elidlulileyo.
LF: Iimbali zethu, eyakho kunye neyam, ibandakanya umsebenzi omninzi ngokuchasene nomkhosi kunye nokupheliswa kwezixhobo zenyukliya, kwaye eminye yayo kunye. Namhlanje, uhlaselo lwaseRussia lwaseUkraine luphembelela uhlahlo lwabiwo-mali lomkhosi kwihlabathi liphela. Siyibala njani imizamo yethu, yintoni esebenzileyo, yintoni engakhange isebenze, kwaye yintoni ekufuneka siyenze ngoku?
V: Ndicinga ukuba sasisazi ngoko kanye into esiyaziyo ngoku. Ukuba ukunyuka kwemfazwe kunye ne-apparatchik yemfazwe kunye nokwakha kunye nokudala izixhobo ezininzi zemfazwe kuya kuba kukutshatyalaliswa koluntu. Kufana nokuba siwutshabalalisile umhlaba ngokusukela ezi bhombu. Siye satshabalalisa amandla abantu okondliwa, ukukhuliswa, ukuhlaliswa, ukuba nemfundo, ukhathalelo lwempilo. Kwaye konke esikwenzayo ngoku kukwakha izixhobo zethu kunye nokwakha amandla ethu okwenzakalisayo nokutshabalalisa.
LF: Kule ncwadi uthetha ngokuqhomfa kwakho. Awukuchazi njengesiganeko esibuhlungu esisoloko sichazwa ngokuqhomfa kodwa njengesenzo senkululeko. Ngapha koko, uthi yayisisigqibo sokuqala sokuzimela othe wasenza malunga nomzimba wakho. Ngaba ungathetha ngesigqibo sakho sokubhala malunga naloo nto kwaye uyifake kule ncwadi?
V: Ndivuya kakhulu ukuba undibuza ngaloo nto. Kuyahlekisa kwandithatha ixesha elide ukubhala elo bali. Ekubeni ndikhulele kusapho olunogonyamelo kakhulu apho umzimba wam wawungengowam, wahlaselwa kwangethuba ngutata ngokwesondo waza wabethwa wajulwa ngapha nangapha. Ndawushiya umzimba wam kwaye andizange ndizive ndingenalo naliphi na ilungelo lokwala, kuba olo khetho lwaluphangiwe kwangoko. Xa ndikhulelwe, ndaqonda ukuba andifuni mntwana. Ndandingakwazi ukondla umntwana. Ndandilikhoboka leziyobisi, ndilinxila, ndilahlekile. Bendihlala kwi halfway house. Kwakungekho ndlela yokuba ndikhulise umntwana kwaye loo mntwana wayeya kutshatyalaliswa. Ndaye ndaqonda ukuba ndingasithatha isigqibo sokungamfumani lamntwana. Kwaye yayilixesha lokuqala ebomini bam ukuba ndenze ukhetho ngomzimba wam kwaye ndathi, "Andiyifuni le." Kwaye olo khetho lwabutshintsha ubomi bam. Yandifundisa ukuba ndinelungelo, ndinegunya lokuzimela ngokwasemzimbeni. Umfazi unelungelo kumzimba wakhe. Ukuqonda okwenzekayo kumzimba wakhe. Nokuba imeko ithini na, lilungelo lomntu, lilungelo elisisiseko. Amashumi asibhozo anesihlanu eepesenti ekhulwini abantu beli lizwe baxhasa amalungelo okuqhomfa. Liqaqobana elisemdeni eliye labamba imakrofoni kwaye lafumana amandla kunye neenkundla. Kodwa ayingabo bonke, kwaye ayiloninzi lwethu. Kwaye sonke eso sininzi kufuneka siqonde ukuba mangakanani amandla esinawo ekujikekiseni oku.
LF: sijonga njani ke? Siyijonga njani into yokuba oku kubiwa kokuzimela komzimba kwabasetyhini kuyaqhubeka kwinkulungwane yama-21? Sisabela njani?
V: Kufuneka ndibuyele kwi-patriarchy. Siphila kwiparadigm yoosolusapho, kodwa ibingasoloko ilapha. Kwakungekho ngaphambili kwaye kunokubakho ixesha xa kungesemva. Kufuna intelekelelo kuthi sonke ukuba sithi, “Ngaba le yingcamango yobuhlanga, imbono kasolusapho esikhetha ukuphila kuyo ngonaphakade? Okanye ngaba sifuna ukuhlala kwiparadigm eyahlukileyo kwaye siza kuzama ukuyikhulula? ” Kuba ukuba asiyiqhawuli siya kufumana amalungelo okuqhomfa kwaye siya kuphulukana namalungelo okuqhomfa. Siza kumisa ubundlobongela obujoliswe kwabasetyhini, kwaye kuya kubakho ubundlobongela obungenasiphelo kwabasetyhini. Ngenxa yokuba sisaphila kwisakhelo esiqhubela phambili ezo zinto.
LF: Incwadi yakho ithatha uhambo ukusuka ekubizeni zonke iingxaki ukuya ekucingeni ezinye iindlela. Kufuneka sicinge ukuba kuya kujongeka njani ukutyala imali emhlabeni jikelele ngoxolo njengoko senza emfazweni. Kufuneka sibe nomfanekiso-ngqondweni wolwalamano olutsha nomhlaba size sivumele ngokwenene ukuba siluve. Ngoku uthetha ngako, kufuneka sicinge ngobudlelwane obutsha phakathi kwabantu, ngokwesini, kunye nokubhiyozela ubuntu bethu kodwa kunye nokuhlangana kwethu.
V: Nge-V-Day siye sacela wonke umntu ukuba abe nomfanekiso ngqondweni wehlabathi elingenabundlobongela kwaye abhale amaqhekeza malunga nalo. Yayimangalisa ngokwenene indlela ekwakunzima ngayo ebantwini. Ndandisentolongweni ndisebenza kwiqela lam lokubhala, yaye le ngcamango ndayidlulisela kubafazi kwiqela lam. Omnye wabafazi wasuka walila waza wathi, “Andinakuyenza. Andikwazi nokuyicinga. Andifuni ukuyicingela. Kubuhlungu kakhulu ukucinga. Ukuvula nje intliziyo yam kwaye ndiphoxeke kukuba ingenzeki. ” Ndiziva ngathi ngamanye amaxesha sichitha onke amandla ethu sichasa ubusolusapho kunokuba sivule iintliziyo zethu. Ukuvula iingcinga zethu, ukuvula imimoya yethu, ukuvula iingqondo zethu zobugcisa bengqondo ukuba kunokwenzeka enye indlela yokuphila. Kwanokuba akwenzeki, nokuba sisenokudana, sibeke esichengeni sithi, “Kuthekani ukuba siphila ngolu hlobo? Bekunokuthini ukuba besinokuphila kwihlabathi apho singenawo abalawuli, apho besiqonda ukuba wonke umntu kwesi sijikelezi-langa unobukrelekrele bakhe obukhethekileyo esibudinga ngokupheleleyo? Ezi zizinto ekufuneka sizicingele. Ezi zizinto esizidinga ngokwenene kuthi ukuze sidale iindlela zokuba ezo zinto zenzeke. Kuba into esingenakuyibona ayinakutyhileka. Ayinakwenzeka. Kwaye ngamanye amaxesha ndiye ndicinge ukuba kufanele ukuba siphuhlise ngokwenene eli lizwe lilapha linejusi, kwaye linomtsalane, kwaye liphila kangangokuba wonke umntu uyathanda, andiyifuni le nto, ndifuna le. Ndiya phaya. Kuba ukuba ndijonga kwiSixeko soVuyo, umzekelo, indawo yethu emangalisayo yokuphilisa, kunye neziko lethu lenguquko eCongo, xa uhamba kuloo ndawo amandla aphezulu kakhulu. Ukungcangcazela kuphezulu kakhulu, uyazi ukuba ukwilizwe elingcwele, elinomlingo, elihle ongasoze ufune ukulishiya. Ukukholelwa ukuba abafazi banokuguqula intlungu yabo kumandla, banokujika ubomi babo ngendlela entsha, sinokukwenza kuyo yonke indawo. Singakwazi ukudala iSixeko solonwabo naphi na apho siya khona, ukuba sithatha isigqibo sokwenza oko. Singachithi lonke ixesha lethu nokuba siwile kwaye sidakumbile, kwaye sinikezela okanye sisabela ngamandla afanayo kubenzi bobubi, kodwa endaweni yoko sakha elinye ilizwe, sakha enye le nyani.
LF: Oko kundibuyisela kukucamngca kwakho ngoEva webhayibhile nokubalisa kwakho ngela bali apho uEva engumlinganiswa okhaliphileyo omela yonke into osandul’ ukuyichaza. Kwaye kwakhona, ndicinga ngabasetyhini base-Afghanistan, e-Iran, nakwihlabathi jikelele namhlanje. Ngaba unayo into onokuthi usithumele ngayo malunga nemeko yokubala, imeko yokunyuka kwihlabathi lethu?
V: Abasetyhini base-Iran, kunye nabasetyhini base-Afghanistan, abafazi baseCongo, abafazi basePalestina, bandikhokele, bandifundise, bandikhuthaze yonke imihla ukuba ndibe nesibindi, ndibe nesibindi, ukuba ndingaphumi endleleni kwaye ndimele into endiyikholelwayo. . Andizange ndilithande igama elithi Eva. Kodwa uyazi, ndikhumbula xa ndiqala ukubona lo mfanekiso ka-Adam no-Eva, yayingumzobo wenkulungwane ye-13 kwaye basongelwe kumthi wamakhowa. Umthi wolwazi yayingumthi wamakhowa. Yaye isizathu sokuba uThixo athi mabangadli kuyo yayikukuze babe njengaye, kuba babeya kuqonda ukuba babengabobuthixo yaye banamandla njengaye. Into uEva wayeyazi nzulu emphefumlweni wakhe, kuba wayekwesinye isitiya ngaphambi kwememe yomyezo kasolusapho, kukuba kwakukho indawo yokubuyela kuyo. Ndicinga ukuba yintoni awayeyazi kunye nento esiyaziyo njengabasetyhini, abantu abadlulayo, abantu abangabonakaliyo, kuba singaphandle ngaphandle, siyazi kwimiphefumlo yethu ukuba kwakukho elinye ixesha ngaphambi kweli xesha. Kwaye kukho iindlela zokubuyela apho. Enye indlela yokubuyela kukuba yinxalenye yamaqela apho uthatha inxaxheba ngokubonakalayo ekutshintsheni ibali. Inkxaso kunye nokuthanda abantu yonke imihla, kwaye uhambe ngaphaya kwendawo yakho yokuthuthuzela ube nesisa ngakumbi kunokuba wawucinga ukuba unakho. Enye indlela kukusela amayeza ezityalo kunye nee-psychedelics ukuze uvule ezo ndawo ukuze uqale ukukhumbula ezo meko zengqondo kunye nokuqonda. Ekupheleni kweso siqwenga, ndivakalelwa kukuba le nto ibizwa ngokuba yi-apile yayiyeyona nto ibalulekileyo esasinayo. Ngoko ke kufuneka sitye iapile sonke. Ekugqibeleni konke malunga nothando. Konke malunga nendlela esinxibelelana ngayo ngendlela enenkathalo, nesisa, nokubuyisela, nokuphilisa, kwaye sibekho omnye komnye kweli hlabathi.
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