Umthombo: Uhlalutyo
Phakathi kwezityholo zokuba uJeremy Corbyn akazange acinezele ngokwaneleyo okanye aphande izityholo zokuchasa iLabour Party ngelixa wayeyinkokeli, uCorbyn ngoku unqunyanyisiwe kwicaucus epalamente nakwiqela ngokwalo.
Ngoku ukujoyina kwethu ukusinika umxholo kuyo yonke le nto nguNjingalwazi Leo Panitch. Ungunjingalwazi ophumeleleyo wophando kwiYunivesithi yaseYork kwaye ungumbhali wencwadi entsha noColin Leys ebizwa ngokuba, Ukukhangela iSocialism: Iprojekthi yaBasebenzi iNtsha eKhohlo ukusuka eBenn ukuya eCorbyn.
Leo, sicacisele ukuba kwenzeke ntoni kwaye siza kungena kuba kutheni.
Leo Panitch
Ewe, oku kuye kwafika ixesha elide. ILabour Party yavumelana xa uCorbyn wayeseyinkokeli ukusebenzisana nophando lokuphathwa kwe-antisemitism kwiLabour Party yiKomishoni yoLingano kunye namaLungelo oLuntu, eyasekwa phantsi kukaTony Blair ngo-2007. Yayiyindibano yee-arhente ezintathu: IKomishini yokuLingana ngokobuhlanga, iKomishoni yamaThuba aLinganayo kunye neKomishoni yamaLungelo oKhubazeko. Kodwa ubukhulu becala bukhona phantsi kweTories kuba uMsebenzi woyiswa ngo-2010, kwaye yaxela ukuba iLabour Party ayizange iyiphathe kakuhle le ngxaki ngokwaneleyo. Kwakukho amatyala ambalwa okuxhatshazwa okucacileyo kwabantu bamaYuda kwaye [kwabanga] ukuba i-ofisi yobunkokeli yaseCorbyn yayithintele uphando lwamatyala amaninzi okanye njalo.
Uyazi, kunzima ukwazi ukuba uqale phi ngale nto. Ikhomishini ngokwayo ayixhaswanga ngemali kakhulu. Isitulo sayo sokuqala sasisondele kakhulu kuTony Blair. Usihlalo wayo wangoku ligqwetha ebelisondele kakhulu kuSirayeli kunye nephulo lakwaSirayeli.
Oko akuthethi nangayiphi na indlela ukuba khange kubekho ngxaki malunga nokuchasana namaJuda kwiQela lezaBasebenzi elalikho ngaphambili eCorbin, ewe. Nangona ingelulo uhlobo lwe-antisemitism ocinga ngayo xa ucinga nge-swastikas ipeyintiwe kwindlu yesikhungu. Okanye amangcwaba amaYuda adilizwa. Ubukhulu becala zizinto kwi-Twitter kwaye ibonisa ulwimi olungenangqondo oluhlala lunento yokwenza neZionism. Kwaye kaninzi abantu abatyholwa ngokuba ngabachasayo ngamaYuda kuba kukho isithethe eside ngasekhohlo kwamaYuda ukubona iprojekthi yeZionist njengobuzwe obuncinci, njengoko inxulumene nokuba yi-imperialism yaseBritane okanye yaseMelika, kwaye ke, okona kubaluleke kakhulu, njengokuhlutha amaPalestine. kwilizwe labo.
Kodwa ngamanye amaxesha iZionism isetyenziswa ngokulinganayo nocalucalulo - "iZionism yiprojekthi yocalucalulo." Kwaye kwanomntu onjengam, umYuda owakhuliswa kwikhaya le-Labour-Zionist waza waya kwisikolo se-Yiddish Labour-Zionist parochial kwiminyaka yam esixhenxe yokuqala yokufunda, ndifumanisa oko kubuhlungu.
Nangona ndiyaqonda, kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo ndicinga ukuba abantu abaninzi abathatha ezi zikhundla ziphantsi bayaqonda, ukuba yintoni le ngempelamalunga, kwaye yintoni ebuhlungu amaYuda amaninzi eBritani naseUnited States nakwezinye iindawo, kukuchongwa kwawo okuqinileyo kunye noSirayeli aze acaphuke xa uSirayeli egxekwa kakhulu njengobuhlanga okanye ama impiriyali. Kwaye, uyazi, ukuba umntu uthe namhlanje ukuba i-United States yayiluluntu olunobuhlanga, abaninzi abakhululekileyo banokuthenga koku. Kodwa uninzi lwabantu bamaJuda bayithatha loo [ileyibhile xa isetyenziswa kwaSirayeli] njengohlaselo.
Ngaphezulu kwayo yonke le nto, akungabazeki ukuba urhulumente weNetanyahu uphendule kwiphulo le-Boycott kunye ne-Divestment. Kwaye uphendule kwinto eyaba lulwimi oluqhelekileyo kwiminyaka embalwa edlulileyo njengoko ithemba lesisombululo selizwe-emibini liye laya lide kakhulu. Uphendule kulwimi ukuba uSirayeli wayenobuhlanga, ukuba iZionism yayinobuhlanga, njl njl. Urhulumente wase-Israel uye waphendula ngokuzama ukubeka uphawu. zonke ukugxekwa kukaSirayeli njenge-antisemitic.
Ke, yile nto ilele kumthombo woku. Kodwa eyona nto ifuna ukugxininiswa kukuba i-poll yenziwa nguSurvation ebuza abantu, emva kwayo yonke le hullabaloo eqhubekileyo, zingaphi ii-antisemites ababecinga ukuba zikhona kwi-Labour Party. Kwaye bathi bacinga ukuba isithathu samalungu e-Labour Party ayengama-antisemites, ngelo xesha yayiza kuba ngabantu abangamakhulu amabini amawaka. Oko akuthethi ukuba i-antisemitism ayiyongxaki kuluntu lwase-Bhritane okanye kwenye indawo, kodwa oko bekuya kuba koyikisa ngokwenene.
UPaul Jay
Akunjalo na ngenxa yokuba aba bantu bachaza i-antisemitism njenge ikhona ukugxekwa kukaSirayeli?
Leo Panitch
Ewe - hayi kuphela, kodwa ewe, kakhulu. Kodwa eyona ngongoma ibalulekileyo apha kukuba inani lilonke lamatyala aziswe kwi-Labour Party etyhola i-anti-Semitism lifika ngaphantsi kwamawaka amabini, apho uninzi luyi-0.3% - oko kukuthi, isinye kwisithathu sepesenti enye yobulungu beqela. .
Kunene? Yiloo nto ebaluleke ngokwenene. Ngoko ke, umntu kufuneka abeke oku kumxholo wento eye yaba ngumkhankaso woloyiko olubhekiswe kuJeremy Corbyn, osetyenziswe yiziko lezaBasebenzi kunye nezaBasebenzi ngokunxamnye naye, kuba wayehlala emele amalungelo asePalestina. Kwaye basebenzise oku njengenkunzi yegusha. Uninzi lwabo alungomaYuda. Kodwa basebenzise le nto njengenqanawe yokubetha ukumngcolisa kwaye inxulumene nokuma kwakhe okuchasa ama impiriyali kuwo wonke umsebenzi wakhe ukusukela oko wazibandakanya neQela laBasebenzi.
UPaul Jay
Ngaba kukho naluphi na ucazululo lwezikhalazo ezinokuba ngamakhulu ambalwa? Zingaphi zezo zikhalazo ezazisekelwe ekuchazeni ukugxekwa kweZionism njengobuhlanga? Kwaye ngaba kukho izikhalazo malunga ne-antisemitism ezazingadityaniswanga nokugxekwa kukaSirayeli?
Leo Panitch
Ewe. Andikwazi ukukunika amanani achanekileyo, kodwa ewe. Uninzi lwabo, nangona kunjalo, kukuba umntu uthe - kwaye uya kutsalwa ukuba athethe - ukuba oku [oko kukuthi, ukuchasana kwabasebenzi] akuyongxaki enkulu njengoko ucinga ukuba kunjalo. Baye bakhutshelwa phezulu kuba besithi oku kuvuthelwa ngaphandle komlinganiselo.
UPaul Jay
Ewe, yile nto uCorbyn wayenqunyanyiselwe yona!
Leo Panitch
Yiloo nto uCorbyn wayenqunyanyiselwe yona.
UPaul Jay
Ngokuthetha nje ukuba iyabaxwa.
Leo Panitch
Batyholwa ngokuba nobuhlanga kuba besithi inkcaso yayingeyongxaki enkulu kwiLabour Party. Yayisisityholo esiqheleke gqitha eso.
Ngoku, ndicinga ukuba kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba abantu baqonde ukuba uJeremy Corbyn ube ... Umntu oye wahamba ngomsebenzi wakhe wonke udwelise oku: wayekhokela amaphulo angama-130, uqhanqalazo, iziphakamiso kwipalamente, imiboniso echasene ne-antisemitism eBrithani. Nangaphambi kokuba abe lilungu lePalamente lezabasebenzi. Enyanisweni, ndiyamkhumbula ekhokela enye emantla London nxamnye AmaNazi owaya kwindawo yamaYuda kumantla eLondon. Corbyn umkhenkce iphulo elichasene nabo.
Into ababemfumana kuyo yayikukuba isikhundla sakhe besisoloko sisicombululo samazwe amabini: uSirayeli unelungelo lokubakho, kodwa amaPalestina anelungelo kurhulumente. Kwaye kwinkomfa yeqela lika-2018, wenza intetho eqaqambileyo, intetho yenkokeli kwinkomfa, ekupheleni kwayo, wathi, Ndifuna ukuthi kuluntu lwamaYuda, ndema ndikhusela nina namalungelo enu kunye namalungelo enu. ikhusela ubomi bam bonke, kwaye ndiya kuqhubeka ndisenjenjalo; Ndiya kukunika ilizwi lam. Kamva kwintetho, safika kumgaqo-nkqubo welizwe langaphandle, wathi, ndiyalixhasa ilungelo likaSirayeli lokuba khona, ndiyasixhasa isisombululo sezizwe-mbini, kwaye enye yezinto zokuqala endiya kuyenza kukuqaphela ilizwe lasePalestina xa ndisiba yinkulumbuso. .
Le yinkunzi ebomvu kwaba bantu. [Oko kukuthi, iflegi ebomvu.] Kwaye wabonwa njengesisongelo sokhuseleko ngenxa yokugxeka kwakhe i-NATO, ngokukhusela kwakhe iVenezuela, ngokugxeka kwakhe ubomi bonke be-imperialism yaseMelika, njl njl. nayo ichazwa njengesi senzo sibi.
Ngoku, iKomishoni yamaLungelo oLuntu ngokuLingana ayikaphanda i-Tory Party ye-Islamophobia kunye nobuhlanga.
UPaul Jay
kunye ne-antisemitism. Ndiqinisekile ukuba bajonge ...
Leo Panitch
Kanjalo. U-Boris Johnson, embindini wayo yonke le nto, ngo-2018, wayehlekisa ngabafazi abanxiba i-burqas. Ngekhe ndive nantoni na kwaba bantu ihlekisa ngomYuda omdala ngo ubude [oko kukuthi, ityali yokuthandaza] okanye yokunxiba ifumanise [oko kukuthi, umnqwazi wokakayi]. Ayinakwenzeka.
Kwaye eyona nto ikhathazayo yile yokuba ukuba kukho nabani na onokuthi akhusele ubuhlanga eBritane, kubandakanya ne-antisemitism, ingasekhohlo. Ibiya kuba yile iseleyo ihleli ikhona. Kwaye iya kuba [lapho]. Angathini umntu ngesigqebelo sento eqhubekayo apha?
UPaul Jay
Inkokeli entsha yeLabour Party, kwakutheni ukuze ithathe inyathelo elinjalo ngoku? UCorbyn akasenguye inkokeli. Kodwa ngeli nyathelo longezelelekileyo lokunqumamisa uCorbyn kuzo zombini iicaucus kunye neqela, oko kuphembelela imfazwe kwiLabour Party kuba uninzi okanye uninzi lweQela leLabore alizukuthanda oku. Iza kwenza buthathaka iqela. Kwaye ayifani nokuba iza kubaphumelelisa iivoti ezininzi, kuba ndiqinisekile ukuba uninzi lwabantu baseBhritane ngokunyanisekileyo abakwazanga ukunika i-shit.
Leo Panitch
Ngokuqinisekileyo, uninzi lwabantu basemantla, apho uMsebenzi waphulukana nezihlalo ezininzi-indawo yokusebenzela yemveli-ayikwazanga. Yinyani leyo.
Nangona, uyazi, abantu bebenika imiyalelo yokumatsha ngamajelo eendaba iminyaka emine okanye emihlanu kule nto. Ke, xa ubuza ngoku kuvoto lwezimvo, ewe, ngaphezulu kwesiqingatha sabemi baseBhritane bacinga ukuba iLabour Party ayivumi. Yena [oko kukuthi, uKier Starmer, inkokeli yangoku yezaBasebenzi] wenze umgaqo-nkqubo wakhe ukubonisa ubungqina bokusekwa kweBritane kunye namajelo eendaba aseBritane - iBBC, hayi kancinci, kunye noMgcini, hayi kancinci - ukuba yena, inkokeli ye I-Labour Party, inyanisekile kwilizwe laseBrithani.
UPaul Jay
Ke, sixelele kancinci malunga noKeir Starmer. Yena mhlekazi Kier Starmer. Ke, lithini ibali lakhe, inkokeli entsha yeQela laBasebenzi?
Leo Panitch
Ewe, igama lakhe lokuqala ligama likaKeir Hardy, inkokeli yokuqala yeQela lezaBasebenzi eBritane. Uligqwetha, igqwetha lamalungelo oluntu, owaba ngumtshutshisi ophambili welizwe laseBritane. Kwaye usebenze ngokusondeleyo nelizwe laseBritane ekutshutshiseni i-IRA. Wakhokela. Kwaye ebengumntu ophakathi-endleleni, uyazi, hayi usoshiyali, kodwa โuMsebenzi.โ Wanyulwa kuphela ngo-2015 xa uGordon [Brown] waba yinkokeli, kanye ngaphambi kokuba uCorbyn abe yinkokeli.
Kwaye wayengekho, uyazi, ekhathazwa kukuba kwikhabhathi yaseCorbyn, kwaye, ukuba kukho nantoni na, wayeya kubonwa njengokubonelela ngekhava. Wanikwa ipotifoliyo yeBrexit. Kwaye wakwazi ukuhamba ngentambo phakathi kwecala leLabour Party elalicinga - uyazi, benza kakuhle kakhulu kunyulo lwe-2017. Enyanisweni, bandise ivoti yaBasebenzi kakhulu ukuba nayiphi na iqela liye lanyusa ivoti yalo ukususela ngo-1945, kulo nyulo, xa uMsebenzi wathi, Siyayamkela i-Brexit: i-referendum yabanjwa kwaye siyayamkela loo nto njengesigqibo sentando yesininzi. Kwaye benza kakuhle kakhulu kolo nyulo. Uninzi lwabantu lwalucinga ukuba uza kufuna ukuba yinkulumbuso.
Emva koko, wahamba kunye nomzamo welungelo lomSebenzi kunye neninzi yeendaba zokuvuselela ingcamango yesidingo se-referendum yesibini. Kwaye oku kwahlula iQela laBasebenzi. Kwaye uCorbyn wagqiba ekubeni alungiselele oku. Amalungu amaninzi ePalamente arhoxa kwaye athi aya kuseka iqela elitsha ngaphandle kokuba uMsebenzi uphume ngokucacileyo ngokuthanda i-referendum yesibini, kwaye [wathembisa] ukuyithobela, njl.
UStarmer udlale macala omabini oku, kodwa wadlala indima ebalulekileyo kwiphulo elibi elenziwa ngabaSebenzi kwiBrexit, ngakumbi kubavoti bayo abangabasebenzi, eyayisithi, "Ukuba siyanyulwa, siyakubiza uvoto lwesibini." Kwaye uCorbyn akazange azibophelele ekuthini uya kuthobela olo luvo kuba wayezama ukubambelela kubavoti abangabasebenzi. Yamenza ukuba ajonge ulwimi-kunye naye bekunjaloulwimi lubotshwe. Ke, u-Starmer wayenoxanduva ngokufanelekileyo koku, nangona uxinzelelo lwaluvela kwabo baya ngasekunene. Kodwa akangoBlairite.
UPaul Jay
Uthetha ukuthini ngalo nto?
Leo Panitch
Ewe, uBlairite - uhlobo lweengcamango zikaBlair-Clinton: masamkele ngokupheleleyo i-neoliberalism kunye ne-capitalism yehlabathi. Uyazi, masingazivezi njengepati yeklasi. Nokuba yintoni iLabour Party, enesiseko sayo semanyano yabasebenzi, kodwa iqela elikumgangatho ophezulu? Kodwa uClinton naye wayekwenza oko-engadlulisi umthetho wabasebenzi abathembise i-AFL-CIO, njl. Kulula kakhulu kwiDemocratic Party, ngokuqinisekileyo, kuba akukho nxu lumano kunye neemanyano. Kukho ikhonkco lezemali. Kodwa kumgaqo-siseko kwicala laseBrithani [oko kukuthi, icala].
Ngapha koko, akunjalo. Kodwa eyona nto ibalulekileyo ngokuba yinkokeli, nangona wathi xa ebaleka wathembisa ukugcina imigaqo-nkqubo kaCorbyn, kukuba iqhinga lakhe eliphezulu ibikukwamkela amajelo eendaba aseBritane. Ukuqinisekisa ukuba iQela lezaBasebenzi liyinkcaso enoxanduva kwaye lingaseka urhulumente oqhelekileyo. Ungayibona le nto ngeBiden. Kodwa ngokuqinisekileyo, kwimeko ye-Labour Party, yile nto eyenzekayo. Ngoko ke, lo mgaqo-nkqubo wawusithi, ekubeni amajelo eendaba ayesoloko esithi, ukuba kukho nabani na othi oku kugqithiselwe, oku kukwabubungqina bokuchasana namaYuda โ kwaye ikomishoni ithatha eso sikhundla โ wabeka umthetho wokuba akukho bani uvumelekileyo ukuba athi kugqithiselwe. .
Ke uCorbyn wenze ingxelo izolo apho wathi, ukuba sine-antisemite enye kwiLabour Party, ininzi kakhulu. Ndiyavuma ukuba asiwenzanga umsebenzi olungileyo ngokwaneleyo kwimfundo; bekufanele ukuba senze okungakumbi. Kunene? Ndiyayamkela le yingxaki embuthweni. Ndifuna ukuthi ndicinga ukuba abantu banoluvo lokuba le nto yinto eqhelekileyo kwi-Labour Party kunokuba iyiyo ngokwenene. Yiloo nto abamfumene kuyo.
Kodwa emva kwayo yonke le nto kukuhlanza into yokuba okokuqala kwimbali yayo, ngaphandle kweminyaka emine kwi-'30s, i-Labour Party yayikhokelwa ngokwenene ngoonontlalontle abazinikeleyo. Kwaye bazibophelele ngokuchasa ama impiriyali, nto leyo enokuba ibaluleke ngakumbi kubo, kuba eneneni uvavanyo lwaba bafana, lumanyano lwaseMelika. Leyo yinkcazo yabo yezopolitiko ezihloniphekileyo.
UPaul Jay
Kwaye lo ngumyalezo osisiseko malunga nawo.
Leo Panitch
Ilungile lo nto.
UPaul Jay
Ngo-Israel njengovavanyo lwe-litmus, urhulumente wezabasebenzi akasayi kwaphula isicwangciso semveli, esisisiseko, sehlabathi jikelele somfelandawonye wama-Anglo-American, nokuba bangazama ukwenza uhlaziyo lwasekhaya olunedemokhrasi yentlalontle kunokuba ngokuqinisekileyo abo Zisa i.
Leo Panitch
Ilungile loo nto.
UPaul Jay
Ke, ngaba oku kukhokelela kokungaphezulu-kulwahlulo olukhulu ngakumbi kwiQela laBasebenzi? Kwenzeka ntoni kwimikhosi efana neMomentum nolu hlobo lwabantu? Ndiyathetha, yayingeyiyo yonke into malunga neCorbyn. Yayimalunga nentshukumo yonke.
Leo Panitch
Umbuzo omhle kakhulu, uPawulos. Uyazi, isikhundla sam kuwo wonke umsebenzi wam kwi-Labour Party kukuba awukwazi ukutshintsha indlovu ibe yibhadi. Ukuba kusoloko kukho ama-socialists kwi-Labour Party kwaye kuya kuhlala kukho. Kodwa ubume belo qela kukuba iinzame zokulijika libe ngumbutho wobusoshiyali lingawahlulahlula. Kwaye abo bazichaza njengabangabo-socialists kwaye bacinga ukuba i-socialism yinto ekhohlisayo - baninzi kwaye bahlala bekwiPalamente yePalamente ye-Labour Party, eyenziwe ngabapolitiki bemisebenzi. Nokuba baqale njengonontlalontle, baphela bekweso sikhundla, uninzi lwabo. Kuya kwahlula i-Labour Party kwaye iqela elahluleleneyo alikwazi ukuphumelela unyulo.
Abasebenzi abashiyekileyo bahlala bethatha umanyano emagxeni abo. Ayilolungelo laBasebenzi. Bona [oko kukuthi, abaSebenzi basekhohlo] babona umanyano olubambe intshukumo yabasebenzi kunye njengomgaqo ophezulu. Aba bafana [okt, i-Labor right] - ubuncinane ngokwaneleyo kubo; akufuneki ukuba ibe sisininzi - zilungiselelwe ngobusuku bokhetho ukuba ziphume ngokuchasene noMsebenzi oshiywe.
Ngoko, ngaba oku kungqina ukuba isikhundla sam sasichanile? Ukuba awukwazi ukutshintsha i-Labour Party kuba emva kwayo yonke into, ngokungathandabuzekiyo, uJeremy Corbyn, indlalifa yengubo kaTony Benn kunye neyona nto ihambelanayo yentando yesininzi ye-socialists kwi-bench yangasemva yeqela, ngokukhawuleza iba yinkokeli emva kwe-2015 kwaye idonsa amakhulu ngokoqobo. kwamawakawaka abantu abaselula ethekweni?
Ingxaki yayikukuba isiseko saloo nto sasingekabekwa. Umfutho wenziwa kuphela kwiphulo likaCorbyn lobunkokeli. Imibutho - imibutho eshiyekileyo - yayibaluleke kakhulu ekuxhaseni ngemali iphulo likaCorbyn, kodwa ubukhulu becala bohlulwe kwipolitiki nokuba banobunkokeli bombutho osekhohlo. Ke, uyazi, ngokwesiqhelo indlela yokuqhubeka malunga noku ibikukutshintsha isiseko seqela, ukutshintsha izixhobo zeqela, kwaye emva koko kunyulwe inkokeli yentlalontle.
Endaweni yoko, ubunoCorbyn kwaye, uyazi, amaLungu ePalamente amane aphambili awayemngqongile, anemida yawo kunye neempazamo njengabezopolitiko bobusoshiyali, behleli ngengqiqo phezu komatshini abangakwaziyo ukuwulawula. Kwaye kunye nabantu kumatshini weqela ababeqeshwe nguBlair, ababezimisele ukwenza konke okusemandleni abo ukuze bahlazeke, ukuba bamlahle, kubandakanywa, kwiminyaka emibini yokuqala, unobhala jikelele weqela.
Kulungile, kwenzeka ntoni ngoku? Khangela, akukho ndlela yimbi, ngendlela. Into ebonakala injalo ngeenzame zamasoshiyali kwinkulungwane yamashumi amabini ananye zokufumana amaqela amatsha obusoshiyali, kukuba nalapho baye baphumelela khona - kwaye baye baphumelela kuphela kwiinkqubo zokumela ngokulinganayo apho unokufumana khona unyawo ngaphakathi kurhulumente ngeepesenti ezintlanu zevoti, ishumi leepesenti zevoti, okanye into ethile, engenakwenzeka kwiinkqubo zonyulo zokuqala ezidlulileyo, akunjalo? Loo maqela ngoku - angena: i-Syriza, i-Podemos, i-Die Linke eJamani, i-Bloco e-Portugal - bonke bakurhulumente wokubambisana kunye nemibutho yentando yesininzi. Intshukumo enkulu yenzekile kunye ne-DSA kwi-Democratic Party emva kwe-Sanders, kunye ne-Momentum (kunye nangaphezulu kwe-Momentum) emva kwe-Corbyn kwi-Labour Party.
Bobabini ngoku baqhube ikhondo labo. Kwaye umbuzo uya kuba ngaba baya kuqhubeka nokusebenza ngaphakathi kwitikiti yeDemokhrasi e-United States nangaphakathi kwe-Labour Party, eyona qela lobulungu lokwenene, elingekho iDemocratic Party. Uninzi lwabantu luzakuhamba - sele bemkile oko uStarmer waba yinkokeli. Kwaye ndiva ukuba ubulungu be-Momentum buphantsi kakhulu. Oku kuya kubangela ukuba abanye abantu bahambe.
Kwelinye icala, akukho ndawo yokuya ngokwenene. Baya kuba, uyazi, abantu ngabanye kwi-ether. Akukho siseko, akukho ntlangano ehambelanayo apha, kwaye kuseyinkqubo yokuqala yokuthumela. Ngapha koko, amaLungu ePalamente asekhohlo kunye neenkokheli zemanyano yasekhohlo, uyazi, benza ivumba elibi ngokunqunyanyiswa kukaCorbyn. Kodwa abaninzi bathi, Ewe, ebengafanelanga ukuba athethe oko. Ngamanye amazwi, wayefanele ukuba wayesazi ukuba oku kwakuseta.
Kwaye ngoku iMomentum iyasebenza, okanye yayiyiyure edluleyo, indibano enkulu kwi-intanethi ngale nto ibinabantu abangamawaka amane, apho inkokeli ekhokelayo yeManyano, eyona manyano inkulu eBritane, yayithetha, apho iLungu lePalamente lasekhohlo lalithetha, yena ngokwakhe. isiqingatha samaYuda, njl., apho umkhankaseli omnyama okhokelayo wathetha - bonke begxeka inkcaso yobuYuda ngokupheleleyo kodwa bezama ukukhusela uCorbyn.
Ndicinga ukuba awuyi kubona ukwahlukana. Umhlaba awukabekwa. Ndiyoyika ngenxa yoku isekhohlo liza kuhlanganisana kwakhona, njengoko iMomentum, ngelishwa, yayigxile kakhulu ekubeni liqela le-cheerleading likaJeremy Corbyn. Kwaye ayisiyiyo indlela eya phambili.
UCorbyn wayekho, wenza oko wakwenzayo, kodwa into efunekayo kukuhlaziywa koMsebenzi oshiywe kunye nenkqubo ecacileyo yokukhankasa. Kukuziqhelanisa nokungena kwiindawo zovoto zabasebenzi kwaye uqalise ukwenza kwakhona abasebenzi njengamandla entlalontle, nto leyo engeyiyo, ukuba nesazisi sodidi oluthile kunye nokuqonda kodidi olunenkqubela phambili. Ukuba iphelela ekukhuseleni uJeremy Corbyn okanye ubuncinci ijike iye kwelo cala unyaka okanye emibini, oko kulibazisa kakubi elo linge libaluleke ngakumbi.
Uyazi, kusenokwenzeka ukuba ekugqibeleni kwaba yimeko yokuba i-Momentum kunye nabanye abaye bazama ukwenza oku [oko kukuthi, ukuvuselela uMsebenzi oshiywe ngokuchasene ne-cheerlead Corbyn] baya kugxothwa kwi-Labour Party xa bephumelele kuyo. Ewe, uyazi, oko kungcono kuba sele besakhile isiseko, akunjalo? Kodwa ukuba bebenokuhamba ngoku, ngebengenawo, uyazi, amandla okwenyani.
UPaul Jay
Kodwa awucebisi ukuba mabangachasi [okwenzekileyo kuCorbyn] kwaye babe nalo lonke eli phulo ngokumanyeneyo noCorbyn. Uyabona ukuba eUnited States kwinqanaba elithile. Awucebisi ukuba abantu mabangayenzi loo nto. Utsho nje ukuba awusakhi isicwangciso esipheleleyo malunga naloo nto ngokwemiqathango yeQela lezaBasebenzi.
Leo Panitch
Umntu kufuneka enze oku, ngokupheleleyo, kodwa kukho indleko kuyo. Kukho iindleko zezopolitiko kuyo. Ndiyathetha, ayinakuphetshwa. Kodwa kukho indleko yezopolitiko kuyo ngokwesicwangciso sexesha elide - ekufuneka iqale kwangoko. Awuyishiyi ixesha elide, kufuneka iqale ngoku. Okanye awusoze uyenzile.
UPaul Jay
Zithini iindleko zezopolitiko?
Leo Panitch
Iindleko zezopolitiko kukuba iinzame zakho kunye namandla akho ajolise ekubuyiseleni ubulungu bukaCorbyn. Ikusa phi lonto? Ndiyathetha, ilungile, kodwa ayitshintshi iQela laBasebenzi.
UPaul Jay
Ndicinga ukuba enye yezinto ekufuneka zenziwe, mhlawumbi ngaphezulu koko kwenziwa-kwaye oku kondla kule nto uthetha ngayo: ukuqonda kweklasi. Kodwa ukuba kuya kubakho i-Labour Party eya kuba yinguqu ngokwenene, inxalenye yesiseko kukubeka isiseko sokuqhawula kunye nomanyano lwe-Anglo-American, ukuba i-UK ayifanele ibe yinxalenye yemigaqo-nkqubo yombuso waseMelika.
Leo Panitch
Uninzi lweepundits ezixhasa uCorbyn, uPaul Mason nabanye, bathatha indawo eyahlukileyo: ukuba kufuneka sishiye umgaqo-nkqubo wangaphandle ecaleni. Asifanele siyichukumise. Into esijolise kuyo kukuphela kobungqongqo, imigaqo-nkqubo yedemokhrasi yentlalontle ngaphakathi kweBritani, kwaye siya kubulawa ngaphambi kokuba senze oko ukuba siphakamisa izinto zomgaqo-nkqubo wangaphandle.
Ndicinga ukuba azilunganga. Ndiyavumelana nawe. Kodwa, uyazi, lelinye icala lale nto. Uyabubona ubunzima apha. Uyazi, ngobuchule kakhulu, kunzima kakhulu.
UPaul Jay
Ziphi ngoku izinto? Ubhubhane uya usiba mandundu e-UK kwaye utshabalalisa iYurophu kwakhona. Ukungaqeshwa kuya kusiba nzulu ngakumbi. Ukudakumba kuya kusiba nzulu ngakumbi. Unokucinga ukuba ukubanjwa kweqela le-Tory kumandla kuya kukhula ngakumbi.
Leo Panitch
Ewe, kodwa banobuninzi obukhulu. Ke, uyazi, sithetha ngonyulo kwiminyaka emihlanu ukusukela ngoku. Abantu bahlala bejonge kuvoto kwaye uStarmer uzama ukuzibonakalisa ukuba unyuliwe. Kodwa, uyazi, akukho sizathu sokucinga ukuba oko kuya kwenzeka ngokukhawuleza. Uyazi, mhlawumbi u-Boris uya kukrazula kangangokuba kuya kubakho uqhushululu kwiqela leTory. Kodwa, uyazi, oko akuyi kukhokelela kunyulo olusondeleyo ngaphandle kokuba baqinisekile ukuba baya kuluphumelela.
Ke, andicingi ukuba yinkxalabo engoko nangoko. Kwaye wonke umntu ojonga amagqabi eti kuvoto lwezimvo malunga nokuba ukulinganisa kukaStarmer kunyukile okanye hayi kuqikelelo lwabemi, nokuba basivalile isikhewu kwiiTories okanye hayi (abanayo kakhulu) - wena Yazi, andiqinisekanga ukuba oku kukuxelela kakhulu.
Kuya kubakho abantu abaninzi kwiziko elisekhohlo, njengoko kukho noBiden- kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo bendiya kugxininisa ukubaluleka koluntu lokuvotela uBiden, ukumkhankasela, njl.njl., ngendlela edumileyo. , kunikwe enye indlela. Kodwa kuya kubakho abantu abaninzi abaya kuthi, Khangela, into ebalulekileyo kukuba uMsebenzi ungene kwakhona, kwaye ukuba kuphela kwendlela esinokungena ngayo ngolu hlobo lwezopolitiko eziqhelekileyo, masibe nazo. Kwaye oko kusikhokelela ndawo ngokuchanekileyo ngokwemigaqo yale nto uthetha ngayo.
UPaul Jay
Ikhokelela kuBlair.
Leo Panitch
Ngenxa yobunjani bobungxowankulu namhlanje, aba bafana abanako ukulawula ukuphikisana kwale nkqubo ingenangqiqo. Njengoko u-Obama wayengakwazi. Ngoko, ulungile. Ndicinga ukuba eli liqhinga lokulahlekelwa.
Kuya kufuneka nditsho, ngenqaku elilungileyo, kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo kufuneka siphelise kweli nqaku lilungileyo, olibonayo xa ufika kwi-Momentum kwaye ubukele, uyazi, iphulo le-cyber ngobubusuku, zonke ezi zithethi zincinci. Xa uthetha nabantu abaseka i-Momentum, bonke abantu abaselula kakhulu - abathathu kubo abangamaYuda, ngendlela; ke, ababini kwabathathu babeselula; enye yayindala kakhulu - ubona italente ebalaseleyo, ukuzinikela, kunye nobukrelekrele besizukulwana esitsha sobusoshiyali. Ngokwenene, kuyamangalisa ngokwenene. Nantso ke into entle.
Uyazi, baya kubambeka kwi-Labour Party ixesha elide, kodwa banokwenza izinto ezilungileyo ngaphakathi kweso sikhokelo kwaye banenjongo yokungabanjwa kwezopolitiko zangaphakathi kunye nokwakha ngaphandle. Uyazi, ukunyanzela u-Starmer ukuba abalahle bonke, oko bekuya kunqumla impumlo yakhe ukuba ajonge ubuso bakhe ngokwetalente. Ke, kuya kufuneka sibone, kodwa ithemba ngaba bantu bamangalisayo beze epatini nokuba ngaphambi nje kweCorbyn okanye emva nje koko.
UPaul Jay
Kulungile, enkosi ngokuzimanya nathi, Leo.
Leo Panitch
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