UAMY KUHLE: Njengoko siqhubeleka ukuphawula uSuku lwaMazwe ngaMazwe lwabasetyhini, ngoku sibhenela kwigqwetha elidumileyo lamalungelo oluntu kunye nommeli uMary Robinson, owayesakuba ngumongameli wase-Ireland, owasetyhini wokuqala ukubamba le ofisi. UkwanguMkomishinala oPhakamileyo weZizwe Ezimanyeneyo wamaLungelo oLuntu. Ube ngumongameli obekekileyo we-Oxfam International ukusukela ngo-2002 kwaye waseka iNGO ebizwa ngokuba yiRealing Rights: The Ethical Globalization Initiative. Ngo-2004, wafumana iMbasa ye-Amnesty International ye-Conscience Award, ngo-2005 wawongwa ngembasa yokuqala yokuthetha ngokuphandle kwiKomishoni yamaLungelo oLuntu yaMazwe ngaMazwe ngamaGay neLesbian ngendima yakhe ekuncedeni ukuba kungabi lulwaphulo-mthetho ubufanasini eIreland. Ngoku ungumongameli weKomishoni yaMazwe ngaMazwe yoBugqwetha.
Bendithetha naye kwiveki ephelileyo. Kwaba ziintsuku ezimbalwa ngaphambi kokuba ahambe aye eAfrika. Waye wakhethwa ngu Nelson Mandela ukuba abe ngomnye wesangqa sabadala, kwaye ndambuza ngohambo lwakhe oluzayo.
UMARY Robinson: Ndiza eMzantsi Afrika kwintlanganiso emalunga nemithetho-siseko esiyidingayo ukuze sibe nolingano ngakumbi kunye nobulungisa kwingxoxo-mpikiswano yemozulu. Imozulu-ukufudumala kwehlabathi, ukutshintsha kwemozulu, akuyonto yendalo. Ibangelwa ziindlela zokuphila esinazo kweli candelo lehlabathi, kwaye zinefuthe elibi kakhulu kumathuba obomi asesichengeni eAfrika. Ndikhe ndaya kwinkomfa eRwanda kwiinyanga ezithile ezidlulileyo ngalo mbandela, kwaye le migaqo iya kusinceda, kwaye siza kuzama ukuphembelela ingxoxo eya eCopenhagen.
Ndize ke ndiye eLiberia, elilizwe elikhethekileyo ngoku, kuba yonyule owasetyhini umongameli wokuqala e-Afrika, u-Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf, kwaye uthathe isigqibo sokubeka ukuxhotyiswa kwabasetyhini kumbindi worhulumente wakhe. Kwaye unendibano enkulu yezizwe ngezizwe enentlanganiso yolutsha kusuku olungaphambili, endiya kuzimasa nayo. Unomongameli abazayo. Ngokwenene, umongameli waseFinland, uTarja Halonen, ukwangumququzeleli wenkomfa. Kwaye iqela loomongameli bangoku kunye nabangaphambili kunye neenkulumbuso, abanye abafazi kunye noomongameli abangamadoda abavela kumazwe ase-Afrika angabamelwane, baya kuza. Ngama-400 kuthi ngaphandle kunye nama-800 ngaphakathi kweLiberia ngokwayo, ngoko yingxoxo enkulu.
UAMY KUHLE: Ukujolisa kwakho eAfrika ngoku, njengowayesakuba ngumongameli waseIrelandโkutheni iAfrika?
UMARY Robinson: Ewe, kuba ndixhalabile kakhulu malunga nenyaniso yokuba zombini intlupheko kunye neengxabano zichaphazela ngokukodwa abafazi nabantwana kunye neentsapho zabo. Ngoko, emva kweLiberia, ndiya eDemocratic Republic of Congo, okokuqala, kwinkomfa enkulu eququzelelwa yiOpen Society eKinshasa, ndize ke ndikhokele iqela elincinane eKivu, apho izenzo ezimanyumnyezi zokudlwengula nogonyamelo. nxamnye namabhinqa namantombazana, kwanamantombazana aselula, aye athwalwa ngokuphanga amajoni nemikhosi eyahlukahlukeneyo ebikuloo mmandlaโamaCongo, amaRwanda, njalo njalo. Ewe, i-UN ikhona ngamanani, kodwa yindawo enkulu kangaka, kwaye abakhange bakwazi ukunyamezela olu hlobo lobundlobongela. Ngoko sifuna ukunceda aba basetyhini bakhuphe amazwi abo. Kukho iqela labantu abakwenzayo oko. UEve Ensler wenza umsebenzi omkhulu kuyo, kunye nabanye. Kwaye ke, kufuneka sincede ukuqinisekisa ukuba ingqwalaselo ethe kratya inikwa ukujongana nobundlobongela obusekelwe kwisini.
UAMY KUHLE: Kuthetha ukuthini ukuba nguMdala, uNelson Mandela ekukhetha njengoMdala?
UMARY Robinson: Ukuqala kwam ukuvela, eneneni ndacinga ukuba yayilicebo lekratshi lokuba, uyazi, abantu abambalwa bangaBadala kwilali yehlabathi. Kodwa sathi sakudibana noMandela ngokwakhe, uMadiba, wahlala nathi kwitafile engqukuva, wathi, โNdifuna nithobeke kwaye nimamele kwaye nifikelele ngokukodwa kwabo bahlelelekileyo kakhulu, abangenalizwi, kwaye,โ watsho, โingakumbi abantu abatsha,โ kwaye ngandlelโ ithile, emva koko, kwakungasekho mathandabuzo kwakhona. Kwakufana nembopheleleko, imbopheleleko yokuziphatha, kumntu ngamnye wethu. Kwaye sizama ukwenza okusemandleni ethu ngabanye, phantsi kwesitulo sethu, uBhishophu Omkhulu uTutuโuJimmy Carter osuka kweli lizwe, uMuhammad Yunis, uGro Brundtland, uKofi Annan, kunjalo. Kwaye sizama ukwenza okusemandleni ethu ngabanye, kodwa ngokudibeneyo. SineCEO ngoku ehlala eLondon, uMabel van Oranje, kunye nabasebenzi abancinci.
Kwaye abadala baye eSipro, bezama ngokuzolileyo ukunceda inkqubo yoxolo apho. Uya kukhumbula ukuba aBadala abathathu ababalaseleyo, uKofi Annan, uJimmy Carter noGraca Machel, bazama ukungena eZimbabwe, kodwa ukusilela kwabo ukufumana iimpepha zokungena eZimbabwe kwatsalelโ ingqalelo kwikholera nokubandezeleka okumasikizi kwabantu phantsi korhulumente ongendawo. Kwaye ngandlela-thile, yazisa ingqwalasela engakumbi, kuba uMugabe, ngelo xesha, wala ukuba aba bantu babalaseleyo bangene ukuze babone okwenzekayo.
UAMY KUHLE: UMzantsi Afrika ngokwawo, ucinga ntoni ngale nto yenzekayo ngoku, kukho iyantlukwano kwiANC?
UMARY Robinson: Ngokucacileyo, ikamva loMzantsi Afrika libaluleke ngendlela engaqhelekanga kwilizwekazi laseAfrika. Ndinamakhonkco anamandla kakhulu apho. Unyana wam wayesebenza eKhayelitsha ngaphandle kweKapa iminyaka eliqela, kwaye ndafunda ngaye ukuba, kwindawo ehlwempuzekileyo, kukho abantu aboyikekayo abafuna ukuziphucula, ukufumana iindlela zokulwa nentlupheko. Kusekho le ngqiqo yokuba uninzi lwabemi luyabandezeleka.
Xa bendilapho kutsha nje kwintlanganiso yabadala ngoJulayi ophelileyo, sadibana nolutsha, kwaye ndikhumbula enye intombazana eneminyaka elishumi elinesibhozo, ngakumbi, eyayibandakanyeka kwi-ActionAid, kwaye babenomboniso omkhulu wenkxaso kwintlanganiso yethu. Wayesitya kanye ngemini. Wayelizibulo kwabathandathu. Umama wakhe wayengumsebenzi wasekhaya. Babedla ngokutya kabini ngemini; ngoku banayo. Kwaye nguMzantsi Afrika wale mihla.
Kwaye ndicinga ukuba kufuneka siqonde ukuba mhlawumbi iSibhengezo seHlabathi samaLungelo oLuntu senze ingqiqo ngaphezu kokuba sicinga. Kukho abantu abalambayo kweli lizwe ngoku. Kwaye ndibuhlungu kakhulu xa ndibona imigca yeepasile zokutya, kodwa mhlawumbi baya kusiqonda isizathu sokuba ilungelo lokufumana ukutya lililungelo elibaluleke kangaka loluntuโilungelo lokufumana ukutya namanzi akhuselekileyo nogutyulo kunye nempilo nemfundoโukuba sinokuhlanganisana kwakhona umbono wehlabathi lethu, ukuba i-G20 eza kudibana eLondon nge-2 ka-Epreli iya kwazi ukuba ayingomazwe amakhulu e-G20 kuphela, ngoku kuquka namazwe amakhulu asahlumayo, kodwa nalawo mazwe ajongene nentlupheko enzima kunye. abafuna ukubona ikamva elingcono kuthi sonke.
UAMY KUHLE: Umongameli uRobinson, iziphumo zemfazwe e-Iraq kunye nemfazwe yase-Afghanistan emhlabeni?
UMARY Robinson: Ezo ziphumo ziyingozi kakhulu. Ndichitha ixesha elininzi kumazwe akuMbindi Mpuma. Kwaye kule minyaka imbalwa idlulileyo, ndiye ndabuhlungu kwaye ndothuswa ziimpendulo ezinoburhalarhume ezichasene neMelika kwezo mfazwe. Zibonwa njengomsebenzi. Ndicinga ukuba ikhuthaza kakhulu, kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo yenze umahluko omkhulu, ukuba i-United States inyule uMongameli u-Obama kwaye uye wabonisa iimpawu zobunkokeli anazo ngokucacileyo.
Kodwa kukho umsebenzi ekufuneka wenziwe. Kwaye ngokungafihlisiyo, ukuthumela abathunywa bomgangatho kaGeorge Mitchell linyathelo elibaluleke kakhulu. Kwaye ndinomdla kakhulu ukuba uNobhala kaRhulumente uClinton uya kudibanisa, umzekelo, kunye nabasetyhini, ngokukodwa, kwaye kwakhona, uyazi, imiba ebanzi ekufuneka iqwalaselwe ngendlela ethobekileyo, yokuphulaphula ngakumbi, yiloo nto ihlabathi lifuna ukuyenza. bona. Lixesha lokuba iUnited States iqonde ukuba umonakalo wenzekile, kufuneka ulungiswe, ukuba unokulungiswa ngolu hlobo lobunkokeli, kwaye amanyathelo anokuthathwa ukuqhubela phambili kunye kwihlabathi elinxibelelene ngakumbi kunye nokusebenza kunye. .
UAMY KUHLE: UMongameli u-Obama uyakhula, eqinisa imfazwe e-Afghanistan, njengokuba ehla e-Iraq?
UMARY Robinson: Iyandikhathaza into eyenzekayo eAfghanistan. Ndivumelana nabo bakholelwa ukuba akusiyo imeko yokuphumelela kwisisombululo somkhosi. Ayiyiyo le nto izakwenzeka. Inene, into ekufuneka yenzeke kukuchaza ukuba kuya kuba yintoni inkqubela eza kwenza ukurhoxiswa kwaloo mikhosi ise-Afghanistan. Kwaye iya kuba neenkalo ezininzi, kwaye iya kubandakanya ukwakha iinkokeli zengingqi ukuze ziqinisekise-zinokuthi zingabi yidemokhrasi ngokupheleleyo, kodwa ukuba kukho uxolo kwaye abafazi banokuthumela abantwana babo esikolweni, kubandakanywa nomntwana oyintombazana, ngokukodwa, ukuba kukho. umyalelo onokunceda abantu base-Afghan baqhubele phambili. Babenexesha elibi ngexesha lolawulo lweTaliban. Babenexesha elibi ngaphambi koko.
Kufuneka bakwazi ukuba nelizwe eliqhubela phambili. Kodwa isisombululo somkhosi ngokwaso asizukusebenza. Okwangoku, iKabul ayikhuselekanga kancinci kunokuba ibinjalo kunyaka ophelileyo okanye kwiinyanga ezintandathu ezidlulileyo. Abantu bakhathazeke kakhulu. Kwaye ifuna indlela edibeneyo. Ifuna abamelwane. Ifuna ukuba i-Iran nePakistan zibandakanyeke kwindlela eya phambili. Ke idinga ubudlelwane obutsha phakathi kwe-United States kunye ne-Iran njengenxalenye yokujongana nalo mba.
UAMY KUHLE: Uyayibona isenzeka loo nto?
UMARY Robinson: Ndicinga ukuba kunokwenzeka. Ndicinga ukuba unyulo oluza e-Iran lubangela umcimbi onomdla kakhulu, ukuba uMongameli-owayenguMongameli uKhatami wayeza kunyulwa. Kwaye oko kunokutshintsha i-dynamic ngobusuku nje.
UAMY KUHLE: Kwaye kunjalo, ukuba wayengekho? Ndiyathetha, ngoku, uMongameli Bush, ewe, ngokuqinisekileyo wayekhalisa amagubu emfazwe eIran. Uyambona uMongameli Obama ethatha indawo eyahlukileyo apho?
UMARY Robinson: Ndicinga ukuba kubaluleke kakhulu ukuba sifunde kwiimpazamo zokukhala kwamagubu emfazwe, kwaye ngokukodwa sikwenza njenge-United States-ukuba ihlabathi liphela liyakhathala, njengoko kwenzekayo, ngokukodwa, ekuqaleni kwimfazwe yase-Iraq. Ewe, i-United Kingdom iye yazimanya, kodwa bekukho ukuxhathisa ngokwenene, kwaye kwakukho abantu abaninzi ngaphakathi kwe-United Kingdom abangayixhasiyo imbumbano eyavula indlela yaloo mfazwe. Kwaye ibangele umonakalo omkhulu.
Ngoko ke ndicinga ukuba kufuneka sifunde ntoni, kwaye ndiyakholelwa ukuba lo ngumyalezo othunyelwa nguMongameli Obama, kufuneka sifunde ukwakha kwakhona indlela yamazwe ngamazwe kunye nendlela yokuxhasa ummandla kwiingxaki ezinzima kakhulu. Sibonile ukuba ngokunxulumene noMntla Korea, amazwe amathandathu asebenzayo, amahlanu kuwo ne-United States, kwaye asaqhubeka nokusebenza. Sifuna uhlobo olufanayo lomanyano olwakhiwe kuloo mmandla, ngenxa yonxibelelwano olunjalo ukusuka kuMbindi Mpuma ngoku ukuya eAfghanistan, ukuya ePakistan, kunye neziganeko zaseMumbai, eIndiya, kunye noxinzelelo apho. Ke, kufuneka sibone indlela eyakha kumandla okusebenza nabamelwane kunye nokuphulaphula nokuzama ukuba nezisombululo zexesha elide.
UAMY KUHLE: Ubuyintloko yenkomfa yaseThekwini engobuhlanga kanye phambi kohlaselo lwe-11 kuSeptemba. E-
UMARY Robinson: Ndandingunobhala-jikelele. Usihlalo wale nkomfa ibinguMzantsi Afrika kunye nomphathiswa wezangaphandle eMzantsi Afrika. Ngandlelโ ithile, ndandinaloo nto ingathandekiyo apho ndandinoxanduva, ngandlelโ ithile, ndinobhala-jikelele wenkomfa, kodwa kungekhona inkokeli yezobupolitika. Inkokeli yezopolitiko yaphuma eMzantsi Afrika. Kwaye ngombulelo, olo khokelo lwezopolitiko luphumelele ekufumaneni umphumo, owawuyinkqubo yesenzo kunye nesibhengezo, esasingenalo ulwimi oluchasayo lwamaYuda, olwalujongene nemiba.
Kodwa kwakusele kusemva kwexesha. I-anti-Semitism esitratweni, indlela isibhengezo se-NGO esiqulethe ngayo ulwimi olubi-ngoko mna, njengoMkomishinala oPhakamileyo, kwafuneka ndiyigatye-ezi zahlala engqondweni. Ngoku sinophononongo lwento, eneneni, ibe sisiphumo esihle. Ngaba singabuya umva?
UAMY KUHLE: Nini kwaye phi?
UMARY Robinson: Iza kuba seGeneva ngo-Epreli, kwaye yinkomfa yophononongo malunga nokuba amazwe ebekufanele ukuba enze ntoni ukuphucula imeko yawo kubuhlanga. Kwaye yiloo nto ekumele ukuba yiyo. Kodwa ngelishwa, kwakhona, ngenxa yento eyenzekileyo kutshanje, ngakumbi eGaza, kusenokwenzeka ukuba abanye baya kufuna ukuyisebenzisa ukukhuthaza inkcaso yobuYuda. Ndiyathemba ukuba akunjalo.
UAMY KUHLE: Kwaye iingcinga zakho kuhlaselo lwakwaSirayeli eGaza?
UMARY Robinson: NdandiseGaza ekuqaleni kukaNovemba yaye ndabona ukubandezeleka kwabantu ababengqingiwe. Kwaye babuza, "Kutheni singafumani sabelo kwisivumelwano ebesisebenza iinyanga ezintlanu ezinesiqingatha?" IZizwe Ezimanyeneyo zazikhathazeke kakhulu, kuba zazinezixhobo zokwakha, izixhobo zokwakha ezixabisa i-150 lezigidi zeerandi, ukuze zincede ekwakheni iikliniki nezikolo zize zinike imisebenzi ethile eGaza. Abazange bakwazi ukusifumana esi sixhobo. Iincwadi zesikolo zazingavunyelwa ukuba zingene eGaza. Yayingaqhelekanga.
Kwaye ke, ndandilapho ngentsasa yentetho yoloyiso ka-Obama. Ndayibukela ndikwihotele eJerusalem. Kwaye kwangaloo ntsasa, ndaxelelwa ukuba amaSirayeli aqhawukile lo mnqophiso wethutyana, engenile, abulala abalweli beHamas abathandathu, ngenxa yokuba babevala itonela elinokusetyenziselwa ukuqweqwedisa ijoni. Ngeliphandle, akukho mntu wafumanisa ukuba inokuthenjwa, kuba maninzi amatonela. Wonke umntu wayeyazi loo nto. Kwaye emva koko baqhunyiswa ngebhombu, uninzi lwabo. Kwaye, uyazi, kukho uloyiko malunga nokungeniswa kwezinto, kodwa kutheni, ngentsasa uMongameli u-Obama wayenikela intetho yakhe yoloyiso, ngaba kukho isiganeko esacatshukiswa nguSirayeli? Wonke umntu wabuza loo nto. I-UN yabuza, iintatheli, abantu esitratweni. Emva koko, izinto zaba mbi. Kwaye ndazibuza malunga nexesha lokungena eGaza. Ngaba yenziwa ngelo xesha, xa wawunolawulo oluphumayo olwalungayi kuchasa ngaphambi kokuba ube nolawulo olungenayo olunokuthi luthathe indlela eyahlukileyo? Ngandlelโ ithile, kubantu baseGaza, kwaba yintlekele.
UAMY KUHLE: Kwaye ixesha lokuba, ewe, amajoni okugqibela akwa-Israel ahamba ngomhla wokumiselwa, kanye phambi kokubekwa kukaMongameli u-Obama.
UMARY Robinson: Ndicinga ukuba zonke ezi zizinto ekufuneka zithathelwe ingqalelo.
UAMY KUHLE: Kwaye inani labantu ababhubhileyo ngelo xesha, ngaphezulu kwe-1,400 yamaPalestina-
UMARY Robinson: Ungandiva kakubi. Xa ndandithetha eGaza, ndawuthabatha lo mbandela wemijukujelwa eyayithunyelwe yiHamas ukuba ibulale okanye yenzakalise abemi abamsulwa. Ndaya eSderot, idolophu, ndadibana nosodolophu. Ndiyigxeka ngokupheleleyo into eyenziwa nguHamas. Kwaye naloo nto kufuneka ibe ngumxholo wophando. Kwaye ngelishwa, iBhunga lamaLungelo oLuntu liphumeze isigqibo sokufuna umsebenzi wokufumana inyani ukujonga kuphela into eyenziwe nguSirayeli, kwaye andicingi ukuba yindlela yamalungelo oluntu. Sidinga uphando ukuze sijonge ukuphulwa komthetho wamazwe ngamazwe wobuntu ngoku-ukwaphulwa okunokwenzeka macala onke.
UAMY KUHLE: Kwaye ucinga ukuba kwakutheni ukuze iHamas ithumele ezo roketi kumazantsi akwaSirayeli?
UMARY Robinson: Ndicinga ukuba-ndiyathetha, ibingenzeki, ngaphandle nje kwesiganeko, kwaye andicingi ngeHamas, kodwa ngamanye amaqela ngelo xesha lelo xesha lethutyana ngexesha lokungqingwa kweenyanga ezilishumi elinesibhozo. Ukungqingwa kunye nokuvalwa kwe-1.5 yezigidi zabantu kwi-strip encinci yinto eyoyikisayo. Sisohlwayo esihlanganyelweyo. Kwaye xa uyibona emhlabeni, iyoyikeka. Kwaye ke, kwakukho eso siganeko nge-4 kaDisemba [sic.], emva koko izinto zaba mandundu, yaza iHamas yaqalisa ukuthumela imijukujelwa engakumbi, aza amaSirayeli ngokoโ
UAMY KUHLE: Ngomhla we-4 kaNovemba?
UMARY Robinson: Nge-4 kaNovemba, ndiyaxolisa, ewe. Kwaye ke konakala emva koko, kwaye iHamas yala ukuvuselela isivumelwano. Ndandibabongoza ukuba bayihlaziye. Kodwa eneneni, uyazi, ubuncinci ukuqonda koxinzelelo, xa ubona, uyazi, izehlo ezenzekayo.
UAMY KUHLE: Kwaye ucinga ntoni ngendima ye-US, uxanduva lwe-US, kunye neebhiliyoni zeedola eyinika uSirayeli?
UMARY Robinson: Ewe, inika iibhiliyoni zeedola ngoku kwakhona ukunceda ukwakha kwakhona eGaza, into endivuya kakhulu ngayo. Ndicinga ukuba zizigidi ezingama-900 zeedola, eziya kubaluleka kakhulu. Kwaye kubalulekile ukuba ifike kubemi abaninzi eGaza.
Kodwa iUnited States ibalulekile kwisicombululo. Kwaye eyona nto ibaluleke kakhulu kukuba umntu okwinqanaba likaGeorge Mitchell enze le nto wayenzayo eBelfast: uya kuhlala, uhlala apho. Omnye umntu uthe kum, kwaye ndicinga ukuba sisigqibo esilumkileyo, angazinza eCyprus. Unokuba khona ngengqiqo yokwenyani kunye nokuqhubekeka. Kwaye emva koko, xa uNobhala weLizwe uClinton ehamba, uyahamba esazi ukuba ayisiyonto nje; kukugxininiswa kwexesha elizeleyo. Kwaye ke kufuneka iQuartet. Ifuna abadlali abatsha abadlala indima enkulu-uyazi, nokuba yiTurkey, nokuba yiQatar. La ngamazwe ngoku anendima ethile ekufuneka eyidlalile, kwaye kufuneka akhuthazwe.
UAMY KUHLE: Ngaba i-US kufuneka ithethe neHamas?
UMARY Robinson: Mna ngokobuqu ndikholelwa njalo, ewe.
UAMY KUHLE: Ngoba?
UMARY Robinson: Kodwa ndiyazi ukuba sisigqibo esinzima kakhulu.
UAMY KUHLE: Ngoba?
UMARY Robinson: Kuba andikholelwa ukuba kuya kubakho isisombululo ngaphandle kwaloo nto. Amaxesha amaninzi urhulumente waseUnited Kingdom wayesithi, โAsizukuthetha neIRA,โ ibe babethetha nabo. Ngoko ke kunokubakho amajelo angasemva. Ndiyathemba ukuba zikhona.
UAMY KUHLE: Mongameli Mary Robinson, ndifuna ukubulela ngokuba kunye nathi.
UMARY Robinson: Enkosi.
UAMY KUHLE: UMary Robinson wayengumongameli waseIreland. Ungowasetyhini wokuqala owakhe waphatha le ofisi, okwanguMkomishinala oPhezulu wamaLungelo oLuntu weZizwe Ezimanyeneyo. Ube ngumongameli obekekileyo we-Oxfam International ukusukela ngo-2002. Ngoku uyintloko yeKomishoni yaMazwe ngaMazwe yoBugqwetha.
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