Ndidibene no-Mohammed Hassan Aazab ekuqaleni kwalo nyaka phezu kweti etafileni yabancinci abancinci kumbindi wedolophu yaseCairo. Isikhumbuzo semvukelo sasisandul’ ukudlula ngoqhankqalazo olukhulu nokuvela kwendlela yaseNtshona ibloko emnyama oko kwakubonakala kungenanto yakwenza nee-anarchists esixekweni. Ngeli xesha, uninzi lombutho oqhubekayo wengca wawuchasene nobundlobongela obuphathelele kwezesondo - ngakumbi, ihlokondiba lohlaselo ngokwesondo oluye lwafana nayo nayiphi na indibano enkulu eTahrir. Umothuko wodushe olwenziwa kubaqhankqalazi ububonakala kwincoko yethu. Ngapha koko, u-Aazab wandixelela ukuba wayegqibile ngoqhanqalazo kunye nezopolitiko, kwaye uye warhoxa kubomi bobomi bemihla ngemihla eYiphutha.
Emva koko kwafika i-30 kaJuni. Izihlwele ezixelwe ukuba zikhulu njenge-33 yezigidi zathatha ezitalatweni ukubiza i-Muslim Brotherhood ukuba ihlehle kulawulo, nje unyaka emva kokuba uMohammed Morsi ethathe isikhundla. Kwimizuzu yangaphambi kokusa kwe-1 kaJulayi, njengoko ibhetri yefowuni ka-Aazab iyancipha ngokuthe ngcembe, ndaphinda ndadibana naye ukuze ndincokole kancinci malunga nokubuyela kwakhe ekuxhathiseni.
Injani imvakalelo eCairo ngoku? Sibona apha iingxelo zoqhanqalazo olukhulu kwimbali yoluntu.
Namhlanje, sonke siye sasebenza nzima ukuphelisa uqhanqalazo ngaphandle kobundlobongela. Wonke umntu woyika ukuba kungaqhambuka imfazwe yamakhaya. Abaqhankqalazi banike uMorsi iiyure ezingama-48 ukuba ehle esihlalweni. Ukuba lo mhla ubekiweyo uyadlula, kuya kubakho ugwayimbo jikelele. Kwiiyure ezintlanu zokugqibela, abantu abayi-10 babulawa - abane e-Assiut kunye nabathandathu phambi kwekomkhulu le-Muslim Brotherhood. Ilanga liyaphuma ngoku. Bonke abavukeli bakudala balungiselela ungquzulwano ezitalatweni.
Ndeva ukuba ikomkhulu leMuslim Brotherhood litshisiwe. Ngaba yinyani leyo?
Ewe. Kwaye lisangqongwe ngabaqhankqalazi okwangoku.
Ngubani obize ugwayimbo? Ngaba kukho iimanyano ezithile ezibandakanyekayo?
Hayi. Imibutho ayisebenzi kwaphela.
Ngoko ke luququzelelwe njani ugwayimbo?
UTamarod [uMbutho Wemvukelo] wabiza uqhankqalazo jikelele. Eneneni, ayizange ilungelelaniswe kwangaphambili; ibe luphuhliso oluzenzekelayo. Iza kusebenza ngabantu abakholelwa kuyo kwaye bayixhase.
Ucinga ukuba abantu baya kulandela?
IPort Said izakuqala uqhankqalazo jikelele ngomso. Andazi ukuba abantu baya kulandela kangakanani na kuyo, ngaphaya koko. Kodwa kuyacaca ukuba abantu bazimisele ngokupheleleyo ukumkhupha uMorsi.
Ukudibana kwethu ngoFebruwari, wabonakala unesithukuthezi, ngathi uphelelwe lukholo ekuxhathiseni.
Ndisavakalelwa ngaloo ndlela, uhlobo, ukunyaniseka. Kodwa xa abantu begcwalisa izikwere kula manani makhulu, loo mvakalelo iyaphela. Ndonwabe ngendlela engathethekiyo.
I-anarchists iququzelela njani ngalo mzuzu. Ndiye ndafumanisa ukuba abanye benu bebezibandakanya noTamarodi, kodwa ngaba nidlala indima ethile?
Hayi, i-anarchists ayizange isayine kwisibhengezo seTamarod. ITamarod ayilonguquko kwaphela. Kwacaca nje ukuba umbutho uqhagamshelene nezigidi zamaJiphutha, ngoko ke sazimanya noqhanqalazo. Abaqhankqalazi izolo bebechasene nombono wozwilakhe wamaSilamsi, kodwa kwangaxeshanye, uninzi lwabo lulungile nozwilakhe wasekuhlaleni okanye wasemkhosini. Mka ikhona uzwilakhe. Asinakuze silibale. Soze sixolele.
Kwaye unentente ye-anarchist eTahrir, ngoku?
Ewe. Sineentente ezine, eneneni.
Ngaba wenza into ethile ukusuka kwezo ndawo?
Okwangoku, sisebenzela ukuqinisekisa ukuba abaxhasi borhulumente bakudala abathabathi indawo yokuhlala.
Njengaye ukubanqanda ngokwasemzimbeni? Ingaba kukho felool [abantu nostalgic kulawulo lwangaphambili] kwisikwere?
A lot yabo.
Ngaba bahlasela abaqhankqalazi, okanye bazama nje ukungena kulo mbutho?
Bazama ukweyisela abantu ukuba bavumele i-SCAF [ibhunga lomkhosi waseYiputa] ithathe amandla kwakhona.
Kukho uvukelo olwenzekayo eTurkey, eBrazil, eBulgaria naseChile ngoku. Kwakukho umboniso omfutshane wokuba yayisasazeka e-Indonesia naseParaguay ngokunjalo, kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo kukho umzabalazo oqhubekayo eBahrain. I-Egypt ibe lukhuthazo olukhulu kuninzi lwezi ntshukumo. Xa wawubhukuqa uMubarak, iTunisia yenzekile, kodwa hayi enye into. Ngaba ivakala ngokwahlukileyo, ngeli xesha? Ngaba uziva uyinxalenye yento yehlabathi?
Kwahlukile, ngokuqinisekileyo. Ngoku, uloyiko luvela ekunokwenzeka kwemfazwe yamakhaya. UMubark wayeyishiti, kodwa akazange alidlale ikhadi lemfazwe yamakhaya. UMorsi usisidenge kangangokuba akabonakali nokuba akaqondi ukuba singaphela sibulalana ezitratweni. Ziyenzeka ngoku izinto ezingazange zenzeke ngaphambili, ngathi ngabantu abahlasela amadoda anentshebe esitratweni bewathuka.
Ndivakalelwa kukuba esi sizukulwana solutsha kwihlabathi jikelele sinotshintsho olunamandla, kwaye ngoku sinamandla okwabelana ngezixhobo, kunye nokusasaza imibono.
Unethemba lantoni ngoku?
Ndiyathemba ukuba abantu baye bafunda okuthile kwinto eyenziwa nguBuzalwane, kwaye ndiyathemba ukuba sisiqalo sesiphelo samaSilamsi ezopolitiko, okanye naluphi na uhlobo lokholo kumaqela enkolo.
Abantu balapha banokunixhasa njani nonke?
Ngokusasaza ilizwi lokuba u-Obama kunye norhulumente wase-US baxhasa ngenkuthalo ukusekwa kwamazwe enkolo kuMbindi Mpuma. Unozakuzaku waseMelika wathi amaJiphutha kufuneka afunde intsingiselo yedemokhrasi! Ngubani mfondini ukuba athethe lonto?
UJoshua Stephens lilungu lebhodi yeZiko leZifundo ze-Anarchist, kwaye ebesoloko esebenza kwiintshukumo ezichasene nongxowankulu kunye nemanyano yamazwe ngamazwe kule minyaka ingamashumi amabini idlulileyo. Uchithe ixesha elininzi kule minyaka mibini idlulileyo egubungela intshukumo yoluntu ukusuka kwisiXeko saseNew York ukuya eAthene, eCairo, ePalestine naseMexico kwiTruthout, AlterNet, NGOKU iLebhanon, iJadaliyya kunye nabanye. Ungumbhali we Self kunye nokuzimisela: Ukujongwa Ngaphakathi kwi Collective Liberation (2013, AK Press). Yena blogs Apha kunye neetweets ku-@joshuacstephens.
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