Kwakabva: Democracy Now!
Kubva pakauraiwa nemapurisa VaGeorge Floyd muna Chivabvu zvakakonzera mhirizhonga munyika yose vachipokana nehutsinye hwemapurisa, vachena vakapakata zvombo vapinda mumigwagwa yemaguta eUS vachipindura kuratidzira kweBlack Lives Matter. Kuronga kurwisa rusaruraganda rwakasangana nekuedza kuri pachena nekutonga kwaTrump kuvhara mhirizhonga yevachena. Tinotaura nenyanzvi yevatema inorwira kodzero dzevakadzi Barbara Smith, muvambi weCombahee River Collective, nezvechisungo chake chechirongwa chekurwisa rusarura chinonzi Hamer-Baker Plan - chakanzi Fannie Lou Hamer naElla Baker - kubvisa hutongi hwevachena muUS "Ini" kwete kungotaura nezvemapoka evachena vepamusoro kana kurongwa kwevachena hukuru, ”anodaro Smith. "Chandiri kutaura nezvayo isystem inoraira uye inogadzirisa zvese zvehupenyu muUS"
AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Ichi chi Democracy Now! The Quarantine Report. Ini ndini Amy Goodman, patiri kutendeuka izvozvi kubva mumutengo weinonzi hondo yehugandanga kune dzimwe nyika kuti titarise kuti hurumende yeUS iri kunanga sei varatidziri veBlack Lives Matter uku vachidzikisira kutyisidzira kwemhirizhonga yevachena kumba.
Kubva pakauraiwa nemapurisa VaGeorge Floyd muna Chivabvu zvakakonzera mhirizhonga munyika yose vachipokana nehutsinye hwemapurisa, vachena vakapakata zvombo vapinda mumigwagwa yemaguta eUS vachipindura kuratidzira kweBlack Lives Matter. Mushure mekupfurwa nemapurisa kwababa VaJake Blake vasina nhumbi dzokurwa muKenosha, Wisconsin, muchena ane makore 17 okukura anotsigira Trump-anotsigira pfuti Kyle Rittenhouse akapfura nekuuraya vaviri vairatidzira muKenosha mwedzi wapera. Asi Mutungamiri Trump vakaramba kushoropodza Rittenhouse. Vhiki rino chete, Donald Trump Jr. akataura nezveanozviti akasvinura, achiti, "Tese tinoita zvinhu zvakapusa pazera re17."
NeChitatu, mumwe mupepeti weDepartment of Homeland Security akapomera hutungamiriri hwesangano iri nekuraira vanoongorora nyaya dzemhirizhonga dziri kukonzerwa nevachena. Brian Murphy, aimbova mukuru webazi rezvehungwaru reHomeland Security Department, anoti akarairwa kuti achinje zvinyorwa zveongororo kuitira kuti kutyisidzira kwehutongi hwevachena, "kuite kushoma." Kutanga kwegore rino, DHS vakanyora gwaro rinotaura, quote, "vachena supremacist vanonyanyisa vacharamba vari kutyisidzira kwakanyanya uye kunouraya muHomeland kusvika 2021." Icho hachisi bhuku reBlack Lives Matter; zvakare, ndiwo mazwi eDHS pachake. Asi mushanduro itsva dzegwaro, kutaurwa kwevachena vepamusoro kwakabviswa. Murphy anotiwo vatungamiriri pa DHS vakamanikidza vaongorori kuti vachinje ongororo kuti dzienderane nezvakataurwa neMutungamiri Trump vachirwisa mapoka anopikisa.
Izvi zvinouya se The Intercept mishumo mumatunhu mazhinji varatidziri vakapinda mukuratidzira kukuru kweBlack Lives Matter vari kupomerwa mhosva dzekupara mhosva, pamwe nehugandanga.
Zvakanaka, kune zvimwe, takabatanidzwa nemuenzi ari kuronga Chirongwa cheMarshall kubvisa hutongi hwevachena muUnited States. Anoridaidza kuti Hamer-Baker Plan, yaFannie Lou Hamer naElla Baker. Barbara Smith anobatana nesu zvino kubva kuAlbany, New York, munyori, muratidziri, nyanzvi yakazvimirira, muvambi weCombahee River Collective uye weKitchen Tafura: Vakadzi veColor Press. Bhuku rake razvino, Hauzoregi Munhu Anditendeutsa: Makore makumi mana eKuvaka Kuvaka naBarbara Smith. Yake ichangoburwa Piece nokuti The Nation ine musoro unoti “Nzira Yokubvisa Hukuru Hwachena.”
Barbara Smith, tinogamuchirwa zvakare Dememocracy Zvino! Sezvatinotaura nezvehugandanga, taura pamusoro pezvatinoona kuUnited States.
Bharabhara KUTENDA: Zvakanaka, ndinokutendai zvikuru. Zvinofadza kuva newe zvakare, Amy.
Ini chaizvo ndanga ndichitaura nezve chimwe chinhu chakati siyanei nezvawakango nyatso kurongeka munhanganyaya yako. Handisi kungotaura nezvemapoka evachena vepamusoro-soro kana hukuru hwakarongwa hwevachena. Zvandiri kutaura nezvayo isystem inoraira uye inogadzirisa zvese zvehupenyu muUnited States, kubva kwavanoenda vana vako kuchikoro uye rudzi rwedzidzo yavanokwanisa kuwana, imhando yeimba yaunayo, chii. hutano hwako hunoratidzika, kuti kangani kana kuti kakawanda sei iwe unofa kubva Covid-19. Ndiri kutaura nezve system yese. Uye ndinofunga kuti, hongu, kana tikabvisa hukuru hwevachena uye tichiita icho chekutanga uye chinangwa chedu, chokwadi tichabvisa kuratidzwa kwakanyanya kwehutongi hwevachena, iyo yakarongwa mapoka evachena, mapoka emagandanga ane chisimba. . Asi ndiri kutaura nezve chimwe chinhu kunyange, ndinofunga, chikuru.
AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Saka, taura nezve iwo mufananidzo mukuru, uye taura nezve hurongwa hwaunoona hunofanirwa kuiswa munyika ino.
Bharabhara KUTENDA: Zvakanaka, ndakatanga kunyora nezve hukuru hwevachena pakutanga kwezhizha rino, mushure mekunge George Floyd arohwa. Ndakanga ndizere nehasha nokurwadziwa, nokuti ndave ndichibata naikoku kubvira apo Emmett Till akaurawa muna 1955. Ndakanga ndine makore 8 okukura apo ikoko kwakaitika, naizvozvo, chokwadika, ndakanga ndisingagoni kunzwisisa zvizere chakanga chaitika chaizvoizvo. Ndaingoziva kuti vanhu vemumhuri mangu, avo vose vaibva kuDeep South - ndakakurira kuCleveland, Ohio, nokuti vaiva chikamu cheGreat Migration - ndaingoziva kuti vakanga vakagumbuka zvikuru pamusoro peumwe munhu anonzi Emmett Till, uye kuti munhu uyu aivawo mwana, semapatya angu Beverly neni. Saka, sezvandakataura, ndanga ndichibata neizvi kwenguva yakareba, 1955 kusvika muchirimo cha2020 uye mberi. Saka, ndakangofunga kuti, “Ndinofanira kunyora.” Ndiri munyori. Ndakangofunga kuti, “Ndinofanira kunyora pamusoro peizvi.”
Chakandikurudzira inyaya yekuti kana vanhu vaitaura nezvenyaya idzi, mungava mumapepanhau kana mumapepanhau, munhepfenyuro, nezvimwewo, vaisambotaura nezvehutongi hwevachena. Vaitaura nyaya dzemarudzi. Vaizotaura pamusoro pekurerekera kuzere. Vaizotaura nezvekuda kuvandudza nekushandura tsika dzechipurisa. Zvakanaka uye zvakanaka, asi havana kumbotaura nezvekuti mhirizhonga yese iyi inobvepi. Uye ndizvo zvandaida kunyora nezvazvo.
Mune izvozvo kutanga chinyorwa, iyo yakaonekwa mukati The Boston Globe - yaive op-ed mukati The Boston Globe — Ndakafunga: Zvingave zvakaita sei kana tiine Marshall Plan, kana chirongwa pachiyero chemujaho wemuchadenga, kubvisa hutongi hwevachena? Uye pandakanga ndasangana ipapo nemupepeti wangu pa The Nation, vakati, “Nei musingarutsi izvozvo?” Uye ndipo pane yechipiri chinyorwa evolved kubva.
AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Uye taura nezvaFannie Lou Hamer naElla Baker, sei wakatumidza chirongwa ichi mushure mavo.
Bharabhara KUTENDA: Zvakanaka, sezvandinotaura kana vanhu vandibvunza, imhaka yekuti ndinovanamata. Uye iwo mienzaniso yepamusoro yezvinova varwi verusununguko, vane misimboti, vasingatyi - kana kushinga. Pane musiyano pakati pekusatya nekushinga. Kushinga kuri nani, nekuti munhu wese anofanirwa kuve nekutya pamusoro pezvinogona kuvakuvadza.
Uye, chokwadi, Fannie Lou Hamer akabhadhara mutengo wakakura wekuda kuita chimwe chinhu sechakajairika sevhoti. Asi muJim Crow South yenguva iyoyo, vanhu Vatema, hapana kana mumwe wavo akabvumidzwa kuvhota. Akabhadhara zvachose nemhaka yekurohwa kwaakaitwa. Uye ndichangobva kuona nezuro, kana muchigona kuzvitenda, mushure memakore ose aya, kuti akanga akapofomadzwa muziso rimwe chete. Anozivikanwa nekushanda naye SNCC, ichiita kuronga kwevavhoti uye mamwe marudzi ekurwisa rusaruraganda panguva iyoyo yaJim Crow, uyezve, kutaura zvine simba pamusangano weDemocratic wa1964 nezvezvakaitika kuMississippi, uye nekubvunza iwo mubvunzo, wakanyanya, wakakodzera: " Ndiyo America here iyi?"
Uyezve, Ella Baker, hongu, aive munhu - pakati pezvimwe zvinhu zvakawanda, aishandira masangano makuru ekodzero dzevanhu pane imwe nguva. Saka aive neruzivo mumasangano ese. Iye zvakare aiita izvo zvakadzika, zvakanyanya, zvine njodzi kuronga muJim Crow South, mumataundi madiki, kumaruwa. Asi pamwe anozivikanwa zvakanyanya nemunhu akafuridzira nekuita kuti kuvepo kweMudzidzi Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, inova. SNCC.
Chokwadi ndakava nemufaro mukuru, mukuru uye rukudzo rwekusangana naFannie Lou Hamer pandakanga ndichiri pwere muCleveland muna 1965 uye ndaibatanidzwa zvikuru mubato rekodzero dzevanhu somuduku.
AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Barbara Smith, unogona here kutaura nezve chikonzero nei uchinzwa kusarurana kwemarudzi, uye zvaunofunga kuti izwi rinorevei, rinofanira kunge riri pakati pechirongwa ichi?
Bharabhara KUTENDA: Zvakanaka, sezvaunoziva, Amy, haugone kutaura nezvedzinza muUnited States usingataure nezvekirasi, uye haugone kutaura nezvekirasi usingataure nezverudzi. Rusaruraganda, hukuru hwevachena, capitalism zvakabatana zvachose. Munoziva, zvakafanana nomuzambiringa wakamonerera muti kana chimwe chirimwa. Chii chaungaita kuti uzviparadzanise? Zvakanyanya, zvakanyanya, zvakaoma kwazvo kuita.
Isu tine uye tinorarama pasi pehurongwa hwekusarudzika capitalism, uko mhedzisiro yakaipisisa yecapitalism inowira kune avo vane shoma shoma yeganda chena mukana - mune mamwe mazwi, vanhu vemavara. Uye ndosaka tichiona mhedzisiro yehupfumi isina kuenzana nemhedzisiro yeiyo system. Icho chokwadi chekuti mhuri dzeVatema dzinenge gumi muzana yehupfumi, hupfumi hwepakati, hwemhuri dzevachena zvinongotaura zvese.
AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Ndinoda kudzokera ku1968, kuKerner Commission, iyo yakapa nguva yaigona kunge yatanga US muchirongwa chikuru chekupedza hutongi hwevachena, asi haina. Munofunga kuti sei zvisina kuitika panguva yekurwira kodzero dzevanhu? Uye iwe unofunga chii chinodiwa kuita rudzi urwu rwekuchinja kwenyika izvozvi?
Bharabhara KUTENDA: Zvekare, kupinda muWayback Machine yendangariro yangu uye yehupenyu hwangu, ndinorangarira apo mushumo weKerner Commission wakabuda. Ndinoyeuka ndichitenga kopi yangu yebepa. Raiva bhuku raitengeswa zvakanyanya. Uye ndipo apo vanhu vaive - munoziva, senge, kuverenga mapepa. Wanga usina internet kana dzimwe nzira dzese idzi dzekutaurirana. Saka, homwe, sekudanwa kwavaiita, bhuku rebepa, ndiyo yaive chimiro.
Uye iyi yaive hombe, gobvu, asi diki saizi, chirevo chakaitwa nehurumende bipartisan komisheni kutsanangura - kuferefeta, kutsanangura, kuongorora kuti sei kwave nekumukirana kwemudhorobha kwakawanda, kumukira - handimbozviti "mhirizhonga," vamwe vanhu. vanogona kudzidaidza kuti "mhirizhonga" - asi nei pakange paine kumukira kwemumaguta kwakawanda panguva iyoyo yekupera kwema1960. Uye ivo vakauya nemhedziso inonzwisisika inonzwisisika kuti yaive yerusaruraganda chena.
Uye ndingati chikonzero nei isina kutaurwa panguva iyoyo imhaka yekuti - uye izvi zvinogona kunzwika, munoziva, sezvisina tariro, asi hazvisirizvo; chingori chimwe chinhu chekuti tifunge nezvacho — nyika ino inoshanda nehutongi hwevachena seinjini yayo, injini ine zvinhu zvakawanda — kubhengi, hutano, dzidzo. Misiyano yese iyi yatinoona, zvingatora zvishoma kuti uti, "Ndinofunga, unoziva, tinofanira kubvisa izvozvo."
Uye ndipo patiri zvino. Isu tine chido chezvematongerwo enyika chekubvisa hukuru hwevachena here, kana kuti isu tinongoda kungoita zvekupoterera kumucheto kwayo nekuita zvinhu zvekushongedza? Unoziva? Kutora pasi Confederate zvidhori, zvakanyanya, zvakakosha, zvinofadza zvikuru zviri kuitika, asi hazvifanirwe kusvika kumamiriro ezvinhu evanhu vanogara pasi pehurongwa uhu, uye hazvigadzirise kusarura kunoshamisa kwechisimba kunoguma nevanhu vakaita saJakobho. Blake achipfurwa kanomwe pamberi pevana vake vadiki panzvimbo isina chinhu.
AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Uye sezvaunotaura, Barbara, zvinongoitika kuti mumasekonzi aya - vanhu vachazvinzwa panguva dzakasiyana, asi panguva ino, 8:46, ndege yekutanga yakarova shongwe yekutanga yeWorld Trade Center makore gumi nemapfumbamwe apfuura. Ndaida kukubvunza nezve intersectionality, nezvekutora hugandanga, kutora hukuru hwevachena. Iwe unoti haigone kurambana kubva kune misogyny uye heteropatriarchy.
Bharabhara KUTENDA: Rudyi. Zvakanaka, ndizvo, munoziva, kubva pamakore angu akareba ekuzvipira kurwira kodzero dzevakadzi nerusununguko rwevakadzi, uyezve kuva ngochani kubva kuma1970. Iwe unoziva, semabatiro avanotaura mumabhizinesi senge "Kukubatira kubva 1942," kana chero, zvakanaka, dai paine kachiratidzo kadiki, iwe unoziva, kutsanangura icho chikamu chehupenyu hwangu, chingave "Kubuda ngochani kubvira 1975. ” Saka, iyo inguva yakareba, uye iyo yakanga isiri nguva refu mushure meStonewall, saka ndave ndichibatanidzwa mukufunga nezve, kuronga kumativi, kunyora nezvenyaya dzepabonde uye zvepabonde, uye zvepabonde uye kudzvinyirirwa kwevakadzi, kwemakumi emakore, nguva refu zvisati zvaitika. yakakurumbira, kare isati yaonekwa seyakanaka. Uye ndinongosvika pane zvese zvandinoshanda pazviri ndofunga nezvazvo nenzira iyoyo.
Uye kana iwe uchifunga nezve nyaya dze - nyaya yehutongi hwevachena, yakanyungudika - zvakare, senge rusaruraganda - yakabatanidzwa nehubaba uye nehomophobia uye transphobia. Saka, haugone kutaura imwe pasina imwe. Ndinoreva, sekuedza kwekufunga, nyika yedu ingave yakaita sei kana tikasarudza, nenzira inoshamisa, serudzi, kubvisa hukuru hwevachena munzira dzese dzatingagona, uye kusiya mhirizhonga kune vakadzi, chibharo, transphobia. , homophobia, kusarura vanhu kwakavakirwa pavakadzi uye pabonde, kana tikasiya zvakadaro? Chii chatingadai takaita, kana tikasatarisa kune ese aya mavector ehudzvanyiriri, ese iwo maroadblocks erusununguko?
Uye kune zvimwe zvinhu zvakawanda, munoziva, zvatinogona kutaura nezvazvo, zvakare. Tinofanira kutarisa mamiriro edu enyika. Tinofanira kutarisa hukama hwedu kune dzimwe nyika. Isu tinotumira kunze kwevachena hukuru. Muenzi wako wekare aitaura nezve zvinoshamisa mhedzisiro yeUnited States inoenderera ichinzi mutemo wekunze, inova mutemo wehondo, uye kuti, ndinofunga akati, kwaingova nemakore gumi nerimwe munhoroondo yese yenyika patakanga tiri. kusabatanidzwa muhondo. Izvozvo zvinoti kudii nezverudzi rwatiri rudzi? Uye zvakawanda zvezvo zvakave zvechirudzi. Uye kunyanya, iwe unoziva, ndingati, kubvira Hondo Yenyika II, mauto, uye kwete - ndinoreva, akakura kupfuura skirmishes - mauto ehondo ayo nyika ino inopinda mazviri zvinongoita senge zvichipesana neruzhinji rwevanhu vane ruvara. . Tinogona kutaura nezve hurema -
AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Barbara, tisati taenda, sezvo tichingove nemasekondi makumi matatu, ndinoda kubvunza -
Bharabhara KUTENDA: Ehe. Ndine hurombo.
AMY MURUME AKANAKA: - kana iwe ukaona echoes yeHamer-Baker Plan mubato reDemocratic Party, kana kuti chii chiri kuburitswa, mune basa raunoona vatsigiri vanofanira kuita musarudzo dzaNovember?
Bharabhara KUTENDA: Ini handisati ndaverenga puratifomu, asi kubva pane zvandinounganidza, zvinobva kune imwe nzvimbo, nekuti se-ndakataura nezve kupenengura kumucheto kwedambudziko. Ndinofunga kuti kunyange kana vari vakashinga kutanga, unofanira kuva kuziva. Iwe unofanirwa kubvuma uye kubvuma kuti hukuru hwevachena huripo, kuitira kuti urwise. Uye, munoona, ndiwo mutsauko. Panogona kunge paine zvinhu mupuratifomu iyoyo zvichabatsira nerudzi rwedu - mamiriro edu ekusaenzana kwemarudzi. Asi chinangwa chezvirongwa izvi ndechekugadzirisa hurongwa hwehutongi hwevachena? Ndiwo mutsauko, ndosaka ndakakurudzira Hurongwa hweHamer-Baker.
AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Zvakanaka, tichabatana nechirongwa ichocho pa democracynow.org. Barbara Smith, munyori, muratidziri uye nyanzvi yakazvimirira. Her Piece in The Nation, "Maitirwo Ekubvisa Hukuru Vachena."
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