Jean Ross ndiye Mukoti akanyoreswa kweanopfuura makore makumi mana muMinnesota uye Co-President National Nurses United.
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Mushure memavhiki mashoma ekuruma zvipikiri paChikomo, bhiri rehutano raTrump-Ryan, iro vamwe vakadaidzwa kuti hupfumi, rakabviswa nemaRepublican. Zvakava pachena kuti veRepublicans vakanga vasina nhamba yakakwana yevhoti yavaida kuti vapfuure American Healthcare Act; asi izvo hazvina kumisa Trump kubva nekukurumidza kupomera maDemocrats. Ngationei.
DONALD TRUMP: Kwete, ndinofunga isu tinofanirwa kurega Obamacare iende nenzira kwayo kwechinguva chidiki uye tichaona mafambiro ezvinhu. Ndinoda kuiona ichiita zvakanaka, asi haigone. Ndinoreva kuti haigoni. Haisi mubvunzo we gee ndinovimba inoita zvakanaka, ndinoda kuti iite zvakanaka. Ndinoda hutano hwakanaka kuvanhu venyika ino. Asi haikona kuita zvakanaka. Iri kuputika uye munguva pfupi ichaputika. Uye hazvizove zvakanaka. Saka, maDemocrat haadi kuzviona, saka ivo vachasvika pavanenge vakagadzirira uye pese pavanenge vakagadzirira, isu takagadzirira.
SHARMINI PERIES: Vese vanochengetedza uye vane mwero maRepublicans vaipokana nebhiri. Vamwe nekuti vanoti zvinoenda kure nekubvisa zvirongwa zviripo; nevamwe nekuti haiende kure zvakakwana. Nekuda kuchengetedza bhiri, Mutungamiriri weImba Yeruzhinji, Paul Ryan akabvumirana nemvumo yaidiwa neConservative freedom caucus, nekubvisa huwandu hushoma hwekuvharirwa hunofanirwa kuzadzisa. Kubatana nesu iye zvino kuti tikurukure mamiriro ezvinhu aya ndiJean Ross, Mukoti Akanyoreswa kwemakore anopfuura makumi mana muMinnesota uye Co-President weNational Nurses United - Jean - zvakanaka kuva newe.
JEAN ROSS: Maita basa, ndafara kuva pano.
SHARMINI PERIES: Jean, saka vanamukoti vakarwa zvakanyanya kuti vakunde iyo American Healthcare Act yaTrump naRyan. Unofanira kunge uri kufara.
JEAN ROSS: Tinofara chaizvo. Yakanga iri mari yakaipa kwazvo. Zvakaipa kudarika zvatinazvo zvino; kunyange zvazvo zvatinazvo iye zvino ndizvo zvatinoziva kuti tinoda munyika ino - Medicare kune vose. Saka, hongu takafara zvikuru.
SHARMINI PERIES: Right, saka ndedzipi nyaya shoma dzaive dzisinganakidze kunyangwe maRepublican?
JEAN ROSS: Zvakanaka, ndinofunga, iwe unoziva kana iwe ukatarisa zvatinazvo izvozvi - Iyo Affordable Care Act - yakatosiya mamirioni mangani? Chimwe chinhu chakafanana nemamiriyoni makumi maviri nemasere avo vakanga vasati vavimbiswa. Izvi zvakatonyanya kuipa - mamwe mamirioni makumi maviri nemana; uye yakaisa mari yaifanira kuchengetwa nevoruzhinji vamarudzi muhomwe dzevakapfuma zvikuru vakanga vasingamboide. Saka, isu tinoziva chinhu chega chichashanda iMedicare system kune vese - iyo isingangoite inishuwarenzi munhu wese, asi inonyatso taura kuti isu tese titarisirwe.
SHARMINI PERIES: Saka, uye mamwe House Democrats, kunyangwe ivo vari vashoma, vanogona kunge vachipemberera. Uku kukunda kwemaDemocrats. Kukundwa kukuru kwemaRepublicans zvisinei kuti uri kudivi ripi rekamba yeRepublican. Uku kukundwa kukuru kwaVaTrump, Ryan nemaRepublicans vakapinda muhurumende nehukasha hwakadai. Saka, unofunga kuti vanozoita sei?
JEAN ROSS: Zvakanaka, kana vakangwara, vachatiteerera, uye ruzhinji rwevanhu munyika ino uye vanosundira bhiri rehutano. Kana iwe uchitaura nezveimwe yemapato, pane yakawanda mhosva yekutenderera. Tinoda system isingade purofiti kune vanhu vakatopfuma. Tinoda system inoita kuti munhu wese ari munyika ino atarisirwe. Saka, kana chero bato raita izvozvo, tinenge tiri shure kwavo.
SHARMINI PERIES: Uye uyu zvakare mukana wekudzoreredza dzimwe nhaurirano idzo vanamukoti vanga vachinzwira tsitsi uye neshungu nazvo, inova hutano hwehutano kune vese. Uyu ndiwo mukana here wokutangazve dzimwe dzenheyo idzodzo?
JEAN ROSS: Hongu. Ndicho chega chichashanda. Hazvina tsanga kuti isu hatisisina yakanakisa hutano system munyika. Dzimwe nyika dzakatipfuura uye zviri pachena nekuti vane Medicare yemhando dzese system. Kana iwe ukaomerera pakusimbisa dzidziso, nzira yekuita bhizinesi munzvimbo inosimbisa purofiti kutanga, uye hutano hwehutano kechipiri, kana chechitatu pasi pemutsara - iwe unogara uchizoguma nezvatinazvo izvozvi. Iyoyo system haichashandi.
SHARMINI PERIES: Right. Iye zvino, dambudziko iro American Healthcare Act yaTrump naRyan yakanga iri chaizvoizvo mari yezvinhu, iyo yaizowedzera; asi zvakare huwandu hwevanhu vakafukidzwa pasi peMutemo wavo hwaizove hushoma. Uye vanga vachiti mamirioni gumi nemaviri vanhu vashoma vaizovharirwa pasi peMutemo mutsva. Zvino, iyo inogona kunge iri mvura pasi pebhiriji panguva ino, asi panguva imwe chete, handifungi kuti vachasiya dzimwe dzenyaya idzi dzavairwira zvakasimba kwemakore manomwe apfuura nyore nyore. Vanamukoti vari kugadzirira here kuramba vachirwisa izvi?
JEAN ROSS: Ah, zvakanaka, isu hatimbokanda mapfumo pasi. Ndinoreva, ticharamba tichiita izvi kusvikira tapinda munzvimbo yeMedicare yehurongwa hwose. Tinofanira chete. Ndinoreva kuti unogonaโฆ tine hanya nevanhu, enda unoona; asi kana vanhu vaine hanya chaizvo nezvemari nemari, saka vanofanirwa kutarisa Medicare yehurongwa hwese zvakare - nekuti ndiyo chete ichatichengetera mari yakakwana kuti iite kuti nyika ino ishande. Inoshanda kune dzimwe nyika. Zvichatibatsira.
SHARMINI PERIES: Zvakanaka, Jean, ndinokutendai zvikuru nekubatana nesu nhasi uye tichadzoka kwauri svondo rinouya, ndine chokwadi; sezvo Republican Party inotora zvidimbu kubva mukurasikirwa kukuru uku.
JEAN ROSS: Zvakanaka, waita.
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