M'mafunso ake oyamba owulutsa ku United States, timakhala ola limodzi ndi Greta Thunberg, wazaka 16 wazaka zaku Sweden wolimbikitsa zanyengo yemwe walimbikitsa mamiliyoni padziko lonse lapansi. Chaka chatha adayambitsa sitalaka yasukulu chifukwa chanyengo, ndikudumpha sukulu Lachisanu lililonse kukaima pamaso pa nyumba yamalamulo ya Sweden, kufuna kuchitapo kanthu kuti apewe kusintha kwanyengo. Chiwonetsero chake chinafalikira, posakhalitsa chinafalikira padziko lonse lapansi. Ana asukulu masauzande ambiri padziko lonse lapansi achita nawo sitiraka yasukulu zawozawo chifukwa cha nyengo. Chiyambire kumenyedwa kwake mu 2018, Greta wakhala wotsogola pazandale. Walowa nawo ziwonetsero ku Europe konse. Adalankhulanso ndi atsogoleri apadziko lonse lapansi pazokambirana zanyengo za U.N. ku Poland ndi Nyumba Yamalamulo ya European Union. Iye wakumanapo ngakhale ndi papa. Ndipo tsopano ali ku New York kuti agwirizane nawo pa 20 September 23 kuti agwirizane ndi nyengo ya nyengo padziko lonse ndikulankhula pa msonkhano wa UN Climate Action Summit pa September XNUMX. Greta wakhala akukana kuyenda pandege kwa zaka zambiri chifukwa cha mpweya, choncho anafika kuno pambuyo pa ulendo wa milungu iwiri wodutsa Atlantic. yacht yothamangitsa ziro-emissions. Akukonzekeranso kupita ku msonkhano wanyengo wa U.N. ku Santiago, Chile, mu Disembala. Greta adalumikizana nafe Lachiwiri mu Demokalase yathu Tsopano! studio.
AMY GOODMAN: Lero timakhala ola limodzi ndi Greta Thunberg, wazaka 16 wolimbikitsa zanyengo ku Sweden yemwe walimbikitsa mamiliyoni padziko lonse lapansi. Chaka chatha, ali ndi zaka 15, adayambitsa sitalaka yasukulu chifukwa cha nyengo, adayamba kupita kutsogolo kwa nyumba yamalamulo ku Sweden tsiku lililonse kwa milungu itatu, kenako adalumpha sukulu Lachisanu lililonse kukaima kutsogolo kwa nyumba yamalamulo, kufuna kuchitapo kanthu. kuteteza kusintha koopsa kwa nyengo. Chiwonetsero chake chinafalikira, posakhalitsa chinafalikira padziko lonse lapansi. Mazana a zikwi za ana asukulu padziko lonse achita nawo sitiraka yawoyawo ya masukulu chifukwa cha nyengo.
Chiyambire kumenyedwa kwake mu 2018, Greta wakhala wotsogola pazandale. Walowa nawo ziwonetsero ku Europe konse. Adalankhulanso ndi atsogoleri apadziko lonse lapansi pazokambirana zanyengo za U.N. ku Poland ndi Nyumba Yamalamulo ya European Union. Iye wakumanapo ngakhale ndi papa.
Tsopano ali ku New York kuti alowe nawo pachiwonetsero chanyengo padziko lonse lapansi pa Seputembara 20 ndikulankhula pa Msonkhano wa UN Climate Action Summit ku U.N. pa Seputembara 23. Greta wakhala akukana kuwuluka kwa zaka zambiri chifukwa cha mpweya woipa, kotero adafika kuno atatha ulendo wa milungu iwiri wodutsa panyanja ya Atlantic atakwera bwato lothamangitsa ziro-emissions racing. Akukonzekeranso kupita ku msonkhano wanyengo wa U.N. ku Santiago, Chile, mu Disembala.
Ndinakhala pansi ndi Greta Lachiwiri kwathu Demokarase Tsopano! situdiyo.
AMY GOODMAN: Greta Thunberg, ndizabwino kuti mubwererenso Demokarase Tsopano!
GRETA THUNBERG: Zikomo.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndiye, Greta, bwanji osayambira pachiyambi? Pali mkangano waukulu, ndipo ndi momwe mumatchulira dzina lanu. Kodi mungatiuze dzina lanu lonse?
GRETA THUNBERG: Greta Thunberg.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndipo ndiye mtundu wa Swedish.
GRETA THUNBERG: Eya.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndipo pamene mukubwera ku United States, anthu amakutchulani mayina osiyanasiyana. Kodi mungatiuze momwe mumasinthira?
GRETA THUNBERG: Nthawi zina ndi Tune-berg, nthawi zina Thunn-berg. Ndikutanthauza, ndikuganiza kuti ndizoseketsa kuti aliyense amazitchula mosiyana. Ndiye, ndiye kuti— sindisamala kuti aliyense azitchula molakwika. Palibe njira yolakwika yotchulira. Aliyense amachitchula m’njira yakeyake.
AMY GOODMAN: Choncho, tchulaninso mmene munabadwira, chimene makolo anu anakutchani inu.
GRETA THUNBERG: Greta Thunberg.
AMY GOODMAN: Chabwino, Greta, ndizabwino kukhala nafe lero. Tiyeni tiyambire pa chiyambi, momwe munakhalira ndi zochitika za nyengo, momwe munakhudzidwira ndi kukhudzidwa kwambiri ndi vuto la nyengo. Kodi munali ndi zaka zingati?
GRETA THUNBERG: Ndikuganiza pamene ine-ndikuganiza kuti ndinali ndi zaka 7, 8, 9 pamene ndinamva za vutoli. Ndiyeno, ndithudi, popita nthawi, ndinawerenga za izo mochulukira ndikumvetsetsa kufunika kwake komanso momwe vutoli linalili lalikulu. Ndipo kotero, zinali pafupi ndi zaka zimenezo ndipo mwinamwake 10, 11, 12. Ndikuganiza kuti ndinakhaladi wokonda zanyengo ndili ndi zaka 12, 13. Ndipo m’pamene ndinakhala ngati wochirikiza zanyengo. Ndinapita ku ziwonetsero mu nthawi yanga yopuma, ndipo ndinayesera kujowina mabungwe ndi magulu ndi zina zotero. Koma kenako ndinangoganiza kuti zonse zinali kuchitika pang'onopang'ono komanso kuti sizikuyenda mwachangu. Kotero ndiye ndinangoganiza kuti ndichita chinachake pandekha, ndipo izo sizingagwire ntchito, koma pali mwayi kuti zitero - zikhoza kukhala ndi zotsatira. Ndipo ine ndinaganiza, “Bwanji osayesa?” Kenako ndinayamba kumenya sukulu chifukwa cha nyengo.
AMY GOODMAN: Munakumana ndi zovuta nthawi imeneyo, mutakhala ndi zaka 8. Kodi mungakambirane zomwe munakumana nazo?
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde. Zitatha izi ndidayamba kuwerenga za izi, ndipo ndidamvetsetsa, ndipo zidandikhumudwitsa kwambiri. Ndipo mukakhala nokha amene mumakhudzidwa ndi vutoli, ndipo wina aliyense akuwoneka kuti, "Chabwino, ndikofunikira kwambiri, koma ndili wotanganidwa kwambiri ndi moyo wanga" - ndipo ndimangoganiza kuti ndizodabwitsa kuti palibe amene china chinali kuchita zinthu mwanzeru. Ndipo kotero, ine—
AMY GOODMAN: Kodi njira yomveka imeneyo ikanakhala yotani?
GRETA THUNBERG: Kuti muchitepo kanthu, kuchoka pamalo otonthoza ndikuzindikira kuti, "Chabwino, sitingathe kupitiriza monga momwe tachitira tsopano. Tiyenera kuchitapo kanthu mwamphamvu. Ndipo ndichita zonse zomwe ndingathe kuti ndithandizire kupita kunjira yoyenera. ” Koma palibe amene ankaoneka kuti akuchita zimenezo. Makolo anga anali ngati kupitiriza monga kale. Anzanga akusukulu, aliyense wa achibale anga, ndikutanthauza, palibe amene anali - palibe amene ankawoneka kuti amasamala za nkhaniyi kupatula ine. Ndipo kumeneko kunali kumverera kwachilendo.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndiye, inu mudatsikira mu maganizo?
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde. Zinali, ndithudi, chifukwa cha zifukwa zambiri, koma icho chinali, ine ndikuganiza, chifukwa chachikulu cha izo, chifukwa ine ndinangoganiza kuti chirichonse chiri cholakwika kwambiri ndipo chirichonse chiri chodabwitsa ndipo chirichonse chiri chomvetsa chisoni, ndipo chifukwa chiyani ' palibe amene akuchitapo kanthu pa izi? Ndipo kenako ndinagwa m'maganizo. Ndipo zinatha mwina chaka kapena chinachake. Ndipo ine—
AMY GOODMAN: Mwasiya kulankhula?
GRETA THUNBERG: Eya, ndinayima. Nanenso ndinasiya kulankhula chifukwa ndili ndi maganizo ofuna kusankha zochita, kapenanso— ananena kuti nthawi zina zimapita— kuti ndinangolankhula ndi anthu ena: aphunzitsi anga, mwachitsanzo, makolo anga, achibale anga ndi ena otero. Ndipo ndinasiya kudya pafupifupi konse. Ine ndekha - linali vuto lalikulu. Ndinachepa thupi kwambiri, chifukwa ndinali nditavutika maganizo kwambiri. Palibe chomwe chinkawoneka ngati chofunikira.
Koma kenako ndinayamba kubwerera, kuti ndikhale bwino, ndikumva bwino. Ndipo chifukwa chake chinali chakuti ndinawona kuti pali zinthu zomwe mungathe kuchita, ndipo ndinazindikira kuti ndikhoza kuchita zinthu. Sindiyenera kukhala pano osachita kalikonse, ndikuwononga nthawi yanga, pomwe ndingathe kukhala ndi zotsatirapo. Kenako ndidayamba kukhala bwino, kenako ndidakhala wokonda zanyengo. Ndipo zimenezo zinathandiza kwambiri. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti pamene ndakhala ndikukhudzidwa kwambiri, ndimakhala wokhudzidwa kwambiri ndi kayendetsedwe ka nyengo, ndimakhala ndikumva bwino, ndimakhala wosangalala kwambiri, chifukwa ndikumva ngati ndikuchita chinthu chofunika kwambiri, chopindulitsa.
AMY GOODMAN: Kotero, kambiranani zomwe zinachitika, zomwe munachita, chiyani, pafupifupi chaka chapitacho tsopano. Munali ndi zaka 15. Mudapita kutsogolo kwa nyumba yamalamulo yaku Sweden tsiku lililonse, koyambirira?
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde. Choyamba - kapena, ndikutanthauza, tsiku lililonse la sukulu, osati Loweruka ndi Lamlungu, koma tsiku lililonse la sukulu kwa masabata atatu mpaka chisankho chomwe chikubwera. Ndiyeno ilo linali dongosolo langa, kuti ndiyime chitachitika chisankho. Koma ndiye, Lachisanu, Seputembara 7, ndipamene Lachisanu la Tsogolo linayamba, chifukwa ndiye ndinaganiza, “Bwanji osapitiliza? Tilekerenji tsopano, pamene tikukhudzidwa kwenikweni?” Kotero ndiye ine ndi ena omenya masukulu ena tinaganiza kuti ife tizipitirira, ndipo ife tizitcha izo Fridays for Future, ndipo izo ziyenera kukhala Lachisanu.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndipo aphungu aku Sweden adayankha bwanji kwa inu, mtsikana wazaka 15, wachinyamata, pamasitepe a nyumba yamalamulo ku Sweden tsiku lonse?
GRETA THUNBERG: Poyamba, sanandizindikire. Aliyense adangodutsa molunjika ndipo -
AMY GOODMAN: Kodi munali mutanyamula chikwangwani?
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde, chizindikiro chachikulu chopangidwa ndi matabwa.
AMY GOODMAN: Kuti?
GRETA THUNBERG: Eya.
AMY GOODMAN: Iwo ananena pa izo?
GRETA THUNBERG: "Skolstrejk kwa Klimatte." Kenako zowulutsa zina ndidapereka, zomwe ndidati - pomwe zidati, "Ife ana sitimachita zomwe inu akulu mumatiuza kuti tichite. Timachita monga momwe mukuchitira. Ndipo popeza simukusamala za tsogolo langa, ndiye kuti sinditero. Chifukwa chake ndimakonda kusukulu chifukwa cha nyengo, "ndi zina zotero. Ndipo kumbuyo, ndidakhala nthawi yayitali ndikulemba mfundo zomwe ndimaganiza kuti aliyense ayenera kudziwa. Ndipo ndinapereka mapepalawa.
Ndipo inde, koma pachiyambi, palibe amene adandiwona. Aliyense anangodutsa. Ngakhale anthu atayamba kusonkhana kumeneko, andale, aphungu, sanandione. Kenako, mpaka nthawi ina, zidakhala zopusa, mwanjira ina, chifukwa ndidawawona - tsiku lililonse choyamba kenako Lachisanu lililonse, ndipo sananene moni. Kotero, patapita kanthawi, iwo anayamba kunena, monga, “Moni. M'mawa wabwino." Ndipo ine ndinati, “Mmawa wabwino.” Koma iwo sanawonetse kwenikweni izo, mwanjira ina. Ndiyeno, pamene idatchuka, itakhala yaikulu, ndiye kuti anayamba, ndithudi, kupezerapo mwayi ndi kunena, monga, "Timathandizira Greta ndi omenyera sukulu," ndi zina zotero, chifukwa nthawi zonse amatsatira. kwa inu ngati izo zitawapindula. Ndipo -
AMY GOODMAN: Kodi mukukumbukira zomwe zinali kumbuyo kwa chithunzi chomwe munanyamula?
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde. Zinali choncho— zowona, ziyenera kusinthidwa lero. Koma zinali ngati kuti mitundu 200 ikutha tsiku lililonse, ndiye, ndithudi, magwero pa izo, ndipo, monga, tiri pachiyambi cha kutha kwachisanu ndi chimodzi, ndi zowona zomwe ndimaganiza kuti anthu ayenera kudziwa, izi ziyenera kukhala chidziwitso chodziwika bwino, komanso pang'ono za mpweya waku Sweden, za momwe mpweya wathu wambiri sunaphatikizidwe pomwe ife - ndikutanthauza, mpweya wotuluka m'boma komanso kuchuluka kwa momwe anthu aku Sweden amatulutsa CO2 pachaka ndi zina zotero. .
AMY GOODMAN: Greta Thunberg wazaka khumi ndi zisanu ndi chimodzi wolimbikitsa zanyengo. Adayambitsa sitalaka yasukulu chifukwa chanyengo chaka chatha, ndikudumpha sukulu Lachisanu lililonse kukaima pamaso pa nyumba yamalamulo ku Sweden, kufuna kuchitapo kanthu kuti apewe kusintha kwanyengo. Adzachita ziwonetsero pamaso pa White House Lachisanu. Titabwerako, amalankhula za kukhala ndi Asperger, ndi zomwe amamutcha "mphamvu zazikulu". Khalani nafe.
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AMY GOODMAN: "Simubwerera Mmbuyo" wolemba Tom Petty. Izi ndi Demokarase Tsopano!, democracynow.org, Lipoti la Nkhondo ndi Mtendere. Ndine Amy Goodman, pamene tikupitiriza kuyankhulana kwanga ndi Greta Thunberg, wazaka 16 wotsutsa zanyengo ku Sweden yemwe walimbikitsa mamiliyoni padziko lonse lapansi. Ali ku New York kuti alankhule nawo Msonkhano wa UN Climate Action Summit pa Seputembara 23 ndikutenga nawo gawo pachiwonetsero chapadziko lonse lapansi Lachisanu, Seputembara 20.
AMY GOODMAN: Chifukwa chake, musanayende padziko lonse lapansi - tinakumana nanu ku Poland - tisanabwere, ndikuwona hashtag yanu, ndikuwona nkhani yanu ya Twitter, idatero - panthawiyo, munali ndi zaka 15 - "wazaka 15 wolimbikitsa zanyengo ndi Asperger's." Ndilo gawo lomwe sitinalankhulepo, la Asperger. Munapezeka liti? Ndipo mukuganiza kuti izi zikuthandizira bwanji kukhudzidwa kwanu ndi chidwi chanu pankhaniyi?
GRETA THUNBERG: Ndikakhala ndi chidwi ndi zinazake, ndimangoyang'ana kwambiri. Ndipo ndimatha kuthera maola ambiri osatopa ndi kuwerenga za izo ndikukhalabe ndi chidwi chofuna kudziwa zambiri za izo. Ndipo izi ndizofala kwambiri kwa anthu omwe ali ndi autism spectrum. Ndipo inde, ndipo basi - ndikuganiza kuti ichi chinali chimodzi mwazifukwa zomwe, chifukwa chake ndinali m'modzi mwa ochepa omwe adachitapo kanthu ndi vuto la nyengo, chifukwa sindinathe kulumikiza madontho chifukwa chake anthu amangokhalira kupitilirabe. kuti, "Inde, kusintha kwanyengo ndikofunikira kwambiri." Ine sindimapeza makhalidwe apawiri awo, mwanjira ina, kusiyana pakati pa zomwe—pakati pa zomwe mukudziwa ndi zomwe mumanena ndi zomwe mumachita, momwe mumachitira. Ndipo kwa ine, imatchedwa cognitive dissonance. Ndipo sindimatero - ine, mwanjira ina, ndimayenda. Ngati ndisankha kuchita chinachake, ndiye kuti ndichita. Ndipo kotero, eya.
AMY GOODMAN: Mwayitana kukhala pa sipekitiramu mphamvu zanu zazikulu. Chifukwa chiyani?
GRETA THUNBERG: Chifukwa zimandithandiza kuwona zinthu m'njira yomwe ena sangawone, ndipo zimangondithandiza kuti ndikhale wosiyana, zomwe ndikuganiza kuti ndi zamphamvu kwambiri m'dera lomwe aliyense ndi wofanana, momwe aliyense amaganiza chimodzimodzi, aliyense akuwoneka chimodzimodzi, aliyense amachita zinthu zomwezo. Ndipo kotero ine ndikuganiza kuti ndi chinthu chonyadira nacho, kuti ndinu osiyana. Ndipo pamavuto ngati awa, tiyenera kuganiza kunja kwa bokosi. Timafunika kuganiza kunja kwa bokosi. Sitingathe kupitiriza kuganiza monga momwe tilili lero, mkati mwa dongosolo lathu lamakono. Ndipo tiyenera kutero - kenako timafunikira anthu omwe amaganiza kunja kwa bokosi ndi omwe amatha kuwona izi mwanjira ina. Ndipo, ndithudi, sikuti nthawi zonse ndi mphatso ndi mphamvu zopambana, zomwe anthu ambiri amavutika nazo - amavutika nazo, chifukwa sangathe kupeza kusintha koyenera komwe amafunikira, ndipo sakukhala pansi pa zochitika zoyenera, zomwe sindinachite. , komanso, kwa nthawi yaitali. Koma tsopano ndikutero. Ndipo -
AMY GOODMAN: Choncho, kambiranani za momwe mwasankhira kukhala ndi moyo wanu. Inde, mumachita ziwonetserozi kamodzi pa sabata, ndipo tidzakambirana zomwe mukuchita kuno, komanso ku United States, koma zisankho zomwe mudapanga zomwe zilinso zandale — mwachitsanzo. , zimene mumadya, zimene mumavala, mmene mumayendera.
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde. Ndikuganiza kuti zinali ziwiri kapena zitatu, mwinamwake zaka zinayi zapitazo, ndinasiya kuwuluka, chifukwa izo zinkawoneka ngati chinthu chachikulu, chifukwa cha zotsatira zake, kukhudzidwa kwa nyengo ya ndege padziko lonse lapansi. Ndikutanthauza, payekhapayekha, ndi yayikulu kwambiri - ili ndi mawonekedwe akulu kwambiri a kaboni. Ndipo kotero ndinangoganiza kuti sindidzawulukanso. Ndipo izi, ndithudi, zinali zovuta kwambiri kwa banja langa, chifukwa ankafuna kuti tipite kutchuthi ndi zina zotero. Kotero, ndinali ngati wovuta. Koma kenako ndidawatsimikizira - ndidawaimba mlandu kuti nawonso achite, choyamba amayi anga, kenako abambo anga, komanso mlongo wanga. Ndiye inenso ndine wamasamba. Ndipo ndili ndi shop-stop. Zikutanthauza kuti simumagula zinthu zatsopano, kudya zinthu zatsopano, pokhapokha mukuyenera kutero. Ndipo zinthu zing'onozing'ono izi zomwe ndingathe kuchita m'moyo wanga watsiku ndi tsiku, kupatula kuchitapo kanthu ndikuwunikira vuto.
AMY GOODMAN: Kotero, ponena za kukhala vegan, fotokozani zomwe zikutanthauza.
GRETA THUNBERG: Kuti sindigwiritsa ntchito zinthu zopangidwa kuchokera - ndikutanthauza, zilizonse - sindidya, mwachitsanzo -
AMY GOODMAN: Zinyama zilizonse?
GRETA THUNBERG: - mankhwala aliwonse a nyama. Sindigwiritsa ntchito nyama iliyonse, chifukwa cha chikhalidwe komanso chilengedwe komanso nyengo.
AMY GOODMAN: Pankhani ya zovala, simugula zovala zatsopano?
GRETA THUNBERG: Ayi. Ndimagula zachiwiri kapena ndimalandira zovala kuchokera kwa wina, kapena ndimangosunga zovala zanga, mwina ndimagwiritsa ntchito zovala za mlongo wanga kapena za amayi kapena za abambo anga. Ndipo ife -
AMY GOODMAN: Chotero, titakuonani ku Poland pamsonkhano wa zanyengo wa U.N. ku Katowice, lankhulani za mmene munafikira kumeneko. Ngati simukuuluka, lankhulani za momwe mumayendera.
GRETA THUNBERG: Ndimayenda pa basi, sitima, galimoto yamagetsi, ndi ngalawa panonso. Ndipo zimatengera nthawi yambiri. Ndipo, ndithudi, sindikunena kuti aliyense asiye kuwuluka ndikuyamba kuyenda kulikonse. Koma zinali choncho—ndinaganiza kuti ndine m’modzi mwa anthu ochepa kwambiri padziko lapansi amene angachitedi zimenezi ndipo ali ndi mwayi wochita ulendowu. Ndiyeno ine ndinaganiza, “Bwanji? Ndipo izo ndithudi zinatenga chidwi kwambiri.
AMY GOODMAN: Chifukwa chake, ndikufuna kupita kukulankhula komwe munapereka tidakuwonani ku Poland ku Katowice pamsonkhano wanyengo wa U.N. Ichi ndi kanema wazomwe mudalankhula kwa mlembi wamkulu wa UN ndi onse omwe adasonkhana pamsonkhano wanyengo wa U.N. COP.
GRETA THUNBERG: Masiku ano timagwiritsa ntchito migolo yamafuta 100 miliyoni tsiku lililonse. Palibe ndale zosintha zimenezo. Palibe malamulo osungira mafutawa pansi. Kotero sitingathenso kupulumutsa dziko lapansi mwa kusewera ndi malamulo, chifukwa malamulo ayenera kusinthidwa. Choncho sitinabwere kudzapempha atsogoleri a dziko kuti azisamalira tsogolo lathu. Iwo atinyalanyaza m’mbuyomo, ndipo adzatinyalanyazanso. Tabwera kuno kudzawadziwitsa kuti kusintha kukubwera, kaya akonde kapena ayi. Anthu adzakumana ndi zovuta. Ndipo popeza atsogoleri athu akukhala ngati ana, ife tikuyenera kutenga udindo umene anayenera kuuchita kalekale. Zikomo.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndiye Greta Thunberg, polankhula pamsonkhano wanyengo wa U.N. ku Poland ali ndi zaka 15. Pamene mukuwonera kanema iyi, Greta, mumamwetulira. Chifukwa chiyani?
GRETA THUNBERG: Nthawi zonse zimakhala zosangalatsa kuwona, chifukwa - sindikudziwa - momwe ndinalankhulira komanso momwe ndidakhalira - ndichinthu chokhwima kwambiri. Ndizovuta kunena pamaso pa mlembi wamkulu wa U.N. Ndipo ndikukumbukira mawu amenewo, chifukwa, m'mbuyomu, ndinali nditakonza zokamba, ndipo abambo anga adaziwerenga. Ndipo iye anati, “Inu simungakhoze kunena izi. Izi ndizovuta kwambiri. Ndipo udzachita manyazi, ndipo udzachititsa manyazi aliyense, chifukwa sungathe kunena izi. Ndiyeno ine ndinangoti, “Chabwino.” Ndipo ine—ndipo ine ndinachidula icho.
AMY GOODMAN: Munali kunena chiyani?
GRETA THUNBERG: Sitingathenso kupulumutsa dziko lapansi posewera ndi malamulo. Ndipo, ndikutanthauza, ndi— kapena kuti “N’chifukwa chiyani ndiyenera kuphunzira za tsogolo limene posachedwapa silidzakhalanso?” ndi zina zotero. Icho chinali chinachake chonga icho. Ndipo ndinaidula kuti aione ndikukhala chete, chifukwa anali wopsinjika kwambiri. Ndiyeno, ndithudi, ine ndinaloweza izo, ziganizo zimenezo, kotero ine ndinazinena izo mulimonse polankhula.
AMY GOODMAN: Koma mudapitilira kuchokera ku Poland, ndipo mudangopitilirabe kuyankhula ndi mabungwe ochulukirapo padziko lonse lapansi kapena mabungwe am'madera, monga mu Epulo, pomwe mudalankhula ndi Nyumba Yamalamulo ku Europe, pomwe mudalimbikitsa opanga malamulo kuti ayankhe mwachangu pazovuta zanyengo monga momwe adachitira nthawi zambiri. tchalitchi cha Notre-Dame ku Paris chinawotchedwa.
GRETA THUNBERG: Dzulo, dziko lapansi lidawona mokhumudwa komanso ndi chisoni chachikulu momwe Notre-Dame idawotchera ku Paris. Nyumba zina si nyumba chabe. Koma Notre-Dame idzamangidwanso. Ndikukhulupirira kuti maziko ake ndi olimba. Ndikuyembekeza kuti maziko athu ndi olimba kwambiri, koma ndikuwopa kuti sali.
AMY GOODMAN: Kotero, kambiranani za ulendo umenewo ndi momwe munathera kumeneko ku Nyumba Yamalamulo ya ku Ulaya.
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde. Ndinapita kumeneko ndi sitima, ndithudi. Ndipo ndikukumbukira, chifukwa mawu amenewo, ndinayenera kulembanso usiku watha, chifukwa usiku watha kapena madzulo ndi pamene Notre-Dame inawotchedwa, ndipo ndinaganiza kuti ndiyenera kuziphatikiza muzoyankhula. Ndipo kotero, ndinayenera kuchitapo kanthu - kotero kunali kovutirapo usiku kuti ndikonze izi. Koma zinali - ndimakumbukira, ndikuganiza kuti zinali zolankhula, ndinalira panthawi yolankhula, chifukwa zinali zokhudzidwa kwambiri ndi zomwe ndimanena. Ndinkanena za kutayika kwa mitundu yosiyanasiyana ya zamoyo ndi nkhalango, ndi acidification ya m'nyanja, ndi zina zotero, ndipo ndinangomva chisoni kwambiri.
AMY GOODMAN: Tiyeni tipite ku clip iyi.
GRETA THUNBERG: Kudula nkhalango zathu zazikulu, kuwonongeka kwa mpweya wapoizoni, kutayika kwa tizilombo ndi nyama zakuthengo, kupangika kwa acidity m'nyanja zathu, zonsezi ndizochitika zoopsa, zikufulumizitsidwa ndi njira yamoyo yomwe ife, kuno ku gawo lathu lazachuma ladziko lapansi, tikuwona ngati. ufulu wathu wongopitiriza.
GRETA THUNBERG: Ndipo zitatha izo, ine ndikuganiza ine ndinapita ku Roma. Inde.
AMY GOODMAN: Mukutanthauza kuti munapita kukaonana ndi apapa?
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde, ku Roma ndi ku Nyumba Yamalamulo ya ku Italy ndi kukaonana ndi papa. Ndipo eya. Kenako ku London.
AMY GOODMAN: Tiye tikambirane za kuyendera papa, zomwe zikutanthauza kwa inu, ndi zomwe papa wanena za vuto la nyengo, ndi zomwe mudamuuza.
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde. Ndikutanthauza, wakhala akunena momasuka za izi. Kotero ine ndikuganiza kuti ndi bwino kuti alankhule za izi. Ndipo anandithandiza kwambiri. Ndipo ananena kuti ndipitirize kuchita zimenezi. Ndipo kotero, inde, zinali zosaneneka kukumana naye, inde. Ndipo ndinali wolemekezeka kwambiri kukhala ndi mwayi wochita zimenezo ndi kulankhula naye.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndipo mukamalankhula izi, mufunsa ndani? Ndikutanthauza, titakuwonani ku Poland, komanso pawonetsero tinali ndi Kevin Anderson, wasayansi wodziwika bwino wanyengo. Kunena zowona, iye sanafune kubwera nanu, chifukwa iye anati, “Mpatseni Greta nthawi zonse. Iye ndi wofunika kwambiri kuposa ine.” Koma munakhala pamodzi awiri. Kodi mumalankhula ndi asayansi a zanyengo?
GRETA THUNBERG: Ndimatero, kawirikawiri. Ndimawafunsa, monga, upangiri ndi momwe ndinganene izi ndi zina, kuti pasakhale kusamvetsetsana kulikonse pa zomwe ndikunena, komanso ku — ndikutanthauza kuti amandithandiza kwambiri ku— amawerenga. kudzera m'malankhulidwe anga kuti nditsimikizire kuti zonse ndi zolondola. Ndipo nditha - ndikadabwitsidwa china chake, nditha kungotumiza maimelo ena kapena mameseji, ndiyeno nthawi zambiri amayankha mwachangu kwambiri. Choncho ndi zothandiza kwambiri.
AMY GOODMAN: Lankhulani za nkhani ya chilungamo cha nyengo ndi zomwe zikutanthauza kwa inu, Greta.
GRETA THUNBERG: Chabwino, ine ndikutanthauza, inu mukhoza kufotokoza izo m'njira zosiyanasiyana. Koma chofunikira kwambiri ndi chakuti iwo omwe ayambitsa vuto la nyengo kwambiri ndi omwe nthawi zambiri sakhala okhudzidwa kwambiri, ndipo mosiyana: Iwo omwe adayambitsa, adathandizira pang'ono kwambiri ndi omwe. kukhudzidwa kwambiri. Ndipo chotero, tiyenera kuonetsetsa kuti, ndithudi, kuti tikhoza kuthandiza anthuwa ndipo kuti sikuli kopanda chilungamo m’zonse.
AMY GOODMAN: Chifukwa chake, Greta Thunberg, ndikufuna kulankhula za mayendedwe padziko lonse lapansi, omwe ndinu gawo lawo komanso olimbikitsa. Pamene munapita ku Britain, munalankhula ku Nyumba ya Malamulo ya Britain, koma munalankhulanso pa zionetsero za Extinction Rebellion. Ndipo tikufuna kusewera kopanira.
GRETA THUNBERG: Tsopano tikukumana ndi vuto lomwe liripo, vuto la nyengo ndi zovuta zachilengedwe, zomwe sizinayambe zakhalapo ngati zovuta kale. Iwo akhala akunyalanyazidwa kwa zaka zambiri. Ndipo kwa nthawi yayitali kwambiri, andale ndi anthu omwe ali ndi mphamvu achoka osachita chilichonse kuti athane ndi vuto la nyengo komanso zovuta zachilengedwe. Koma tidzaonetsetsa kuti sadzathanso.
AMY GOODMAN: Greta, ndi inu, mukulankhula ndi gulu ku Extinction Rebellion. Gululi linali lokonzekera pamene tinali ku Poland. Anali kumeneko ku Britain, akuyamba kudzipangira malo ngati likulu la ExxonMobil ndi malo ena. Kodi mungalankhule za kufunika kwa gululi?
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde. Ndikutanthauza, Kupanduka kwa Extinction Rebellion kwakhudza kwambiri, ndikuganiza, pamakangano athu, makamaka ku Europe, mwina osati pano, koma kuti akugwiritsa ntchito kusamvera anthu, chifukwa akuti, "Sitidzatero. pezani chidwi chanu mwanjira ina." Ndipo zimenezi n’zothandiza kwambiri. Ndipo kotero, ndizodabwitsa kwambiri kuwona zomwe akuchita. Ndipo ndizo, pamodzi ndi Fridays for future ndi mayendedwe ena ambiri, mayendedwe ena ambiri anyengo ndi zachilengedwe - ndikuganiza kuti timagwirira ntchito limodzi bwino. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti ife, limodzi, tachita bwino kupanga izi kukhala zofunika kwambiri. Zimamveka ngati anthu akuyamba kudzuka pang'onopang'ono, ndipo zakhala zofunikira kwambiri kwa anthu, nyengo ndi zovuta zachilengedwe. Kotero ine ndikuganiza kuti izo nzabwino kwambiri. Inde, sikokwanira. Inde, ndi mochedwa kwambiri. Koma akadali - akadali chinachake.
AMY GOODMAN: Greta Thunberg, wazaka 16 wazaka zaku Sweden wotsutsa zanyengo. Titabwerako, ananena za ulendo wake wa milungu iwiri atakwera boti lopanda mpweya wopita ku New York. Khalani nafe.
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AMY GOODMAN: "Kudutsa Zala Zanga" ndi gulu la Sweden la Abba. Izi ndi Demokarase Tsopano! Ndine Amy Goodman, pamene tikubwereranso ku zokambirana zanga ndi Greta Thunberg, wazaka 16 wotsutsa zanyengo ku Sweden yemwe walimbikitsa mamiliyoni padziko lonse lapansi kufuna kuchitapo kanthu kuti apewe kusintha koopsa kwa nyengo. Patsogolo pa Msonkhano wa U.N. Climate Action Summit womwe angalankhule nawo kumapeto kwa mwezi uno, Greta adafika ku New York atatha ulendo wa milungu iwiri wodutsa m'boti lopanda mpweya. Ndinamufunsa kuti afotokoze za ulendowo.
GRETA THUNBERG: Ndinafika pano pa boti loyenda panyanja, lopanda mpweya. Ndipo chinali chochitika chabwino kwambiri. Ndikukhumba kuti anthu ambiri akanakhala ndi mwayi wochita izi, chifukwa zinali zodabwitsa. Ndipo inu mukhoza kuganiza kuti izo zinali zowopsya ndi zolimba ndi zaukali. Koma sindinamve choncho. Sindinatero — ndinali ndi mwayi kwambiri. Sindinamve kugona m'masabata awiriwa. Ndipo tinapita mofulumira kwambiri; tinagunda mfundo 30, ndikuganiza, kawiri. Ndipo kumeneko ndi liwiro kwambiri kwa bwato.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndipo zinali bwanji kukhala panyanja? Ndikutanthauza, izi zinali zatsopano kwa inu. Fotokozani chokumana nacho.
GRETA THUNBERG: Eya.
AMY GOODMAN: Anthu ambiri satengapo ulendo wotere.
GRETA THUNBERG: Ndisanakwere bwato, ndinalibe kwenikweni - ndinasankha kuti ndisakhale ndi ziyembekezo zilizonse, chifukwa ndinangoganiza kuti - ndizichita ndikusangalala nazo panjira. Koma kwenikweni sizinali zoipa choncho.
AMY GOODMAN: Simunadwalepo ndi nyanja?
GRETA THUNBERG: Ayi. Ndipo zinali zodabwitsa kukhala m’chipululu muno ndi kuona nyama zakuthengo mmenemo, muli ma dolphin ambiri ndi nyama zina zakuthengo. Ndipo ngati kunali bata, ndiye kuti usiku mumatha kuwona nyenyezi momveka bwino, ndipo mumatha kuwona Milky Way. Ndipo inde, zinali choncho - zidamveka bwino kulumikizidwa, kusalumikizana ndi anthu kunja, pokhapokha ngati, ndikutanthauza, foni ya satellite ndi zina zotero.
AMY GOODMAN: Matanga anu, matanga a pa ngalawa iyi, matanga akuda awa, anati, mu zilembo zoyera, “Gwirizanani kuseri kwa sayansi.” Chifukwa chiyani mwasankha zimenezo?
GRETA THUNBERG: Ndinasankha — ndikutanthauza kuti anandipatsa mwayi, monga, “Ukhoza kulemba china chake panyanja ngati ukufuna. Tikupanga matanga atsopano. Ndipo ngati mukufuna, mutha kulembapo kanthu. ” Ndiyeno ine ndinaganiza, “Inde.” Ndipo izo zinali—ine sindikudziwa. Ndinasankha chifukwa ndi zomwe ndikufuna kuti anthu azichita. Ndikufuna kuti anthu agwirizane kumbuyo kwa sayansi, chifukwa sindiri - zomwe ndikuwuza anthu kuti achite tsopano ndikulumikizana kumbuyo kwa sayansi. Ndipo ndi zomwe tiyenera kuzindikira, kuti ndi zomwe tiyenera kuchita pakali pano.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndiroleni ndikufunseni za a New York Times op-ed chidutswa, ndime mu The New York Times, lomwe linalembedwa ndi Christopher Caldwell. Mutuwu uli ndi mutu wakuti "Vuto la Greta Thunberg's Climate Activism: Njira yake yokhazikika ndiyosemphana ndi demokalase." Caldwell akulemba kuti, "Nthawi zambiri Mayi Thunberg sangakhale oyenerera kutsutsana pabwalo la demokalase." Amamaliza gawo lake ndi kunena, "Demokalase nthawi zambiri imafuna kudikirira ndikuwona. Kuleza mtima kungakhale ukoma wa demokalase. Kusintha kwanyengo ndi nkhani yaikulu. Koma kunena kuti, ‘Sitingadikire,’ ndiko kuitana vuto ngati manda,” iye akutero. Greta Thunberg, ngati mungayankhe Christopher Caldwell.
GRETA THUNBERG: Palibe chomwe ndinganene kwa iwo. Ingolumikizanani kuseri kwa sayansi. Ine sindine amene ndikunena izi. Ine sindine amene tiyenera kumvetsera. Ndipo ndimanena choncho nthawi zonse. Ndikunena kuti tiyenera kumvera asayansi.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndipo akumaliza ndi kunena kuti tidikire.
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde, tadikirira zaka 30. Ndipo ndikuganiza takhala oleza mtima ndipo takhala tikudikirira ndikuwona zaka 30. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti ndi nthawi yoti muzindikire kufulumira kwa vutoli ndikuchita zinazake.
AMY GOODMAN: Zitha kudabwitsa anthu kumva kuti mukunyozedwa pa Twitter - komanso anthu mamiliyoni ambiri amakutamandani kumwamba. Koma mukuganiza kuti izi zikutanthauza chiyani mukamenyedwa?
GRETA THUNBERG: Ndikutanthauza, mumatha kuziwona m'njira zosiyanasiyana. Zoonadi, n’zomvetsa chisoni kuti anthu amathera nthaŵi yawo akuchita zimenezi, pamene angakhale akuchita zabwino m’malo mwake. Koma mutha kuwonanso ngati chinthu chabwino, kuti zikutanthauza kuti muli ndi chikoka, kuti anthuwa amamva ngati akuwopsezedwa ndi inu. Ndipo izi zikutanthauza kuti mwasintha. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti gululi lasintha; apo ayi, sakanawononga nthawi yawo kuyesa kutinyoza ndi kutinyoza.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndikufuna kulankhula zambiri za kuwukira kwa olimbikitsa nyengo. Ndikufuna kutembenuza mkulu wa bungwe la United Nations loona za ufulu wachibadwidwe, Michelle Bachelet, pulezidenti wakale wa Chile, akukamba za kuukira kwa olimbikitsa nyengo, kuphatikizapo inu.
Alinafe BACHELET: Ofesiyi komanso ma rapporteurs apadera awona kuukira kwa omenyera ufulu wachibadwidwe mdera lililonse, makamaka ku Latin America. Ndakhumudwitsidwa ndi zachiwawazi, komanso ndi mawu achipongwe kwa achinyamata omenyera ufulu, monga Greta Thunberg ndi ena, omwe amalimbikitsa kuthandizira kupewa kuvulaza m'badwo wawo. Zofuna zomwe oteteza chilengedwe ndi omenyera ufulu wachilengedwe zimakakamiza, ndipo tiyenera kulemekeza, kuteteza ndi kukwaniritsa ufulu wawo.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndiye Michelle Bachelet, yemwe tsopano ndi mkulu wa bungwe la U.N. Anali purezidenti waku Chile, yemwe azikhala ndi msonkhano wanyengo wa UN, COP25, mu Disembala, komwe Greta adzakhala. Iyenera kukhala ku Brazil, koma adasiya kuyitanira kwawo kuti akakhale nawo COP, chifukwa cha kusintha kwa nyengo komwe kumakana Purezidenti Jair Bolsonaro. Greta, ngati mungathe kuyankhula zomwe Michelle Bachelet adanena? Adakusankhani, akulankhula za olimbikitsa nyengo komanso kuwukira kwawo, koma olimbikitsa nyengo ambiri akumva kuzingidwa. Ndipo lankhulaninso za mapulani anu otsogolera ku COP25, msonkhano wa U.N., pamene mukupita ku America.
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde. Ambiri olimbikitsa zanyengo ndi zachilengedwe akuwukiridwa, ndipo nthawi zina akuphedwa. Ndipo kotero ine sindine yemwe tiyenera kuyang'ana pazochitika izi. Ndipo ndizowopsa kwambiri kuti mukuyesera kuyimilira chinthu chomwe chiyenera kutengedwa mopepuka - dziko lamoyo ndi nyengo yogwira ntchito - ndipo sizodabwitsa kuona zomwe anthu ena akukumana nazo. Ndipo, ndithudi, ndikudziwa ambiri, ochita ziwonetsero, achinyamata achinyamata makamaka, omwe akuwukiridwa pa intaneti ndipo akunama ndikunyozedwa, nthawi zina ndi akuluakulu osankhidwa komanso atolankhani olemekezeka. Ndipo sindikumvetsa momwe mungawukire munthu wotero.
Ndipo, ndikutanthauza, nthawi zina omenyera ufuluwa amakhala - amakhala achisoni chifukwa cha izi. Ndipo izo, ndithudi, zimawakhudza iwo m'njira yomwe amamva ngati sangathe kupitiriza. Ndipo ndicho, ndithudi, chimene iwo akufuna; ndicho cholinga cha ma attack awa. Chifukwa chake, ine basi, ndi ena omenyera ufulu omwe amathandizira, timathandizirana. Timangoyenera kutonthozana wina ndi mnzake ndi kukhala pamenepo kwa wina ndi mnzake ndi kunena kuti, “Musamaganizire za anthu awa, chifukwa zonse zomwe akuchita ndi—cholinga chawo ndikuwononga nthawi yanu ndikutopetsani. ndi kukupangitsani kuti musiye, chifukwa zimene mukuchitazo n’zabwino.”
AMY GOODMAN: Mwangolemba kumene kuti ogwira ntchito ku Amazon, 900 mwa iwo, amakhala ku Seattle - aka ndi nthawi yoyamba - adzachitanso pa Seputembara 20.
GRETA THUNBERG: Eya.
AMY GOODMAN: Kodi zimenezi zikutanthauza chiyani kwa inu?
GRETA THUNBERG: Kwa ine ndi gululi, zikutanthawuza modabwitsa, chifukwa tili ndi mabungwe ambiri omwe akukonzekera kumenya, ndiye ndikutanthauza, akuluakulu omwe akugwira ntchito yawo. Ndipo izi ndizofunikira kwambiri kuwonetsa kuti izi ndi zotere - izi siziri za ana kapena achinyamata okha. Izi ndi za aliyense. Ndipo zomwe tikuchita, sitiri, ndithudi - ndikutanthauza, tikukantha kuti tisokoneze dongosolo, kuti tipeze chidwi. Ndipo ndikungoyembekeza kuti zikhala bwino.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndiye tiyeni tikambirane zomwe mukuchita m'masiku akubwerawa. Mukupita ku Washington, D.C., likulu la dzikolo. Lachisanu, mapulani anu ndi otani? Ndi Lachisanu, Seputembara 13.
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde. Lachisanu, ndikupita ku - Lachisanu lino pa 13, ndilowa nawo mgulu lasukulu lazanyengo kunja kwa White House ku Washington, D.C. Ndipo ine -
AMY GOODMAN: Kodi mumatsutsa sabata iliyonse Lachisanu?
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde.
AMY GOODMAN: Kulikonse komwe muli padziko lapansi?
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde, ngakhale pa bwato. Mlungu uliwonse, ziribe kanthu komwe ndingakhale, Lachisanu, ndidzachita zionetsero ndi ziwonetsero za nyengo, kunja kwa nyumba yamalamulo kapena nyumba ya boma kapena holo ya tauni kapena chirichonse.
AMY GOODMAN: Chifukwa chake, pa 13, mukuchita pamaso pa White House.
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde.
AMY GOODMAN: Pamene mudatera sabata yatha, mudatera Lachitatu madzulo. Lachisanu, munali kutsogolo kwa United Nations.
GRETA THUNBERG: Eya.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndi iwo omwe mudawauzira, omwe adachita ziwonetsero pamaso pa United Nations kwa milungu ingapo, pafupifupi chaka. Ndiye kambiranani za sabata yotsatira, Seputembara 20, zomwe mapulani anu ali komanso mapulani a anthu padziko lonse lapansi.
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde. Pa 20, tikukonzekera kunyalanyazidwa kwatsopano padziko lonse lapansi. Ndipo timapempha anthu amisinkhu yonse kuti agwirizane nafe, osati ana okha. Akuluakulu ndi olandiridwa, nawonso, kuti agwire ntchito yawo. Chifukwa chake, ndidzakhala ku New York pa 20 Seputembala kuti ndilowe nawo pachiwonetsero pano. Ndiyeno, pa 27, palinso chiwopsezo chapadziko lonse lapansi.
AMY GOODMAN: Kenako mukupita, mu Disembala, kupita ku msonkhano wanyengo wa U.N. ku Chile. Lankhulani za ulendo umene mukufuna kuyenda pakati pa September ndi December.
GRETA THUNBERG: Inde. Mu December, ndikukonzekera kupita ku COP25, yomwe ili ku Santiago. Chifukwa chake, ndikutali kwambiri kuchokera pano, kotero ndiyenera kuonetsetsa kuti ndinyamuka nthawi yake ndikuyenda kudera la North ndi South America, ndipo mwina ndikuyenda pang'ono komwe kumakhala kovuta kwambiri kuyenda. Ndiyeno ine ndidzakhala kumeneko. Ndipo sindikudziwa zomwe ndikhala ndikuchita kumeneko, koma ndaitanidwa kuti ndikalankhule kumeneko. Kenako, pambuyo pake, tiwona zomwe ndikuchita.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndipo potsiriza, uthenga wanu kwa achinyamata, anthu mwina amene samavota— ndizowona—koma akupeza malo awo padziko lapansi? Mumati chiyani kwa iwo? Ndipo mukhoza kuyang'ana molunjika mu kamera.
GRETA THUNBERG: Uthenga wanga kwa achinyamata padziko lapansi ndikuti pakali pano tikukumana ndi vuto lomwe liripo, ndikutanthauza, nyengo ndi zovuta zachilengedwe, ndipo zidzakhudza kwambiri miyoyo yathu m'tsogolomu, komanso tsopano, makamaka omwe ali pachiopsezo. midzi. Ndipo ndikuganiza kuti tiyenera kudzuka, ndipo tiyesenso kudzutsa akuluakulu, chifukwa ndi omwe - m'badwo wawo ndi umene umakhudzidwa kwambiri ndi vutoli, ndipo tiyenera kuwaimba mlandu. Tiyenera kuwaimba mlandu anthu omwe ali ndi mphamvu pa zomwe akhala akuchita kwa ife komanso mibadwo yamtsogolo ndi zamoyo zina padziko lapansi. Ndipo tifunika kukwiya ndi kumvetsa zimene zili pangozi. Ndiyeno tiyenera kusandutsa mkwiyowo kukhala zochita ndi kuyimirira pamodzi ogwirizana osataya mtima.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndi Greta Thunberg wazaka 16 wolimbikitsa zanyengo ku Sweden mu kuyankhulana kwake koyamba kowulutsa pano ku United States. Adzachita ziwonetsero pamaso pa White House Lachisanu, kenako kutenga nawo gawo pachiwonetsero chanyengo padziko lonse Lachisanu, Seputembara 20, kuno ku New York. Lolemba, Seputembara 23, adzalankhula ku Msonkhano Waukulu wa U.N. ku msonkhano wa UN Climate Action Summit. Ndipo adzakhala pamsonkhano wanyengo wa U.N. ku Santiago, Chile, mu Disembala. Demokarase Tsopano! adzakhalapo, komanso, kuphimba zochitika zonsezi.
Izo zimachita pawonetsero wathu. Demokarase Tsopano! opangidwa ndi Mike Burke, Deena Guzder, Nermeen Shaikh, Carla Wills, Tami Woronoff, Libby Rainey, Sam Alcoff, John Hamilton. Zikomo kwambiri Robby Karran. Ndine Amy Goodman. Zikomo kwambiri pobwera nafe.
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