DAVID GRAEBER: Ndinali ku Syria kamodzi. Ndinali kumโmwera kwa dziko la Turkey. Ndinali ku Iraq. Ndinali m'madera osiyanasiyana m'madera a Kurdish omwe akuyesa demokalase yeniyeni.
Wofunsa: Kodi mungandiuze zomwe zakubweretsani kumeneko, ndipo kuyambira pachiyambi pomwe?
DAVID GRAEBER: Zinali zochepa kuti ndinawapeza kuposa momwe anandipezera. Pali anthu omwe akuchita nawo gulu lachi Kurdish Freedom Movement lomwe ... linayamba ... Koma china chake chokhudza [inaudible 00:00:30] chidatengera njira yatsopanoyi, ndipo zambiri zinali mkati mwa zigawenga za azimayi zomwe zimadzitsimikizira okha, ndikuyambitsa uzimayi ngati mutu waukulu. Zina mwa izo zinali zokhudzana ndi kusinthika kwanzeru kwa mtsogoleri wawo, [Ojulan 00:00:43], yemwe wakhala chonchi ... zambiri za chiphunzitso cha feminist, ndipo zinafika pofika pa malo a anarchist, makamaka.
Iwo anaganiza kuti m'malo mofuna dziko lawolawo, angofuna kuti malire akhale opanda ntchito ndi kuthetsa mayiko onse. Ndipo zimakhala zomveka kwa anthu a mโdera limenelo. Kumbukirani kuti a Kurds ndi anthu omwe amagawidwa pakati pa Iran, Iraq, Syria, ndi Turkey.
Lingaliro lakuti iwo mwanjira ina akusema boma kuchokera pamenepo likuwoneka ngati losatheka. Ndipo amapangiranso ... mfundo yomwe mumamva kwambiri, anthu anganene, "Chabwino, mukudziwa, tazindikira kuti kudera lino ladziko lapansi, kufuna dziko lanu ndikofanana ndi ' Ndikufuna ufulu wozunzidwa ndi apolisi achinsinsi olankhula chinenero changaโ.โ Sizofunikira kwambiri. Kotero iwo afika pa lingaliro ili la pansi-mmwamba demokalase mwachindunji ndi mtundu wa kuchotsa malire monga njira yabwino kuti abwere ndi chinachake ngati Kurdistan chimene chingakhale chomveka.
Interviewer: Ndiye malo alipo? Kodi ndinganene kuti malowo alipo? Pali malo enieni omwe mudalozerapo.
DAVID GRAEBER: Kurdistan. Ndinapita ku Rojava. Rojava ndi - kapena kumadzulo kwa Kurdistan - ndi gawo la Syria la Kurdistan. Ndi gawo lalikulu la kumpoto kwa Syria m'malire a Turkey, ndipo anthu pafupifupi mamiliyoni awiri kumeneko adachita zomwe ndikuganiza kuti ndi chimodzi mwazoyesa zakale kwambiri. Bambo anga anamenya nawo nkhondo zapachiลตeniลตeni za ku Spain, chotero ndinakulira mโmalo amene zikumbukiro za zimene zinachitika ku Spain mu โ36, โ37, โ38 zinali zoonekeratu kwambiri. Chifukwa chimodzi chomwe ndidakhalira wosagwirizana ndi malamulo ndikuti, nthawi zonse ndimanena, anthu ambiri saganiza kuti kusagwirizana ndi lingaliro loipa. Iwo amaganiza kuti ndi amisala. Palibe apolisi, anthu angoyamba kuphana. Palibe amene adakonza zinthu popanda atsogoleri.
Ndipo kwenikweni, abambo anga anali ku Barcelona pomwe amayendetsedwa ndi mfundo ya anarchist. Iwo anangochotsa antchito a kolala yoyera, ndipo motsimikizirika anapeza kuti zimenezi kwenikweni zinali ntchito zachipongwe, kuti sizikanapanga kusiyana kulikonse ngati kulibe.
Chifukwa chake nditakula chonchi, ndikumvetsetsa kuti ndizotheka, koma sipanakhalepo kuyesa pamlingo wotere monga zomwe zidachitika ku Spain ndi dera lolamulidwa ndi Republican, makamaka madera aku Kurd omwe ali ndi anarchist, chifukwa aliyense amawopa kwambiri. anthu oyendetsa zinthu.
Sadandaula ngati anthu anganene kuti, "Ndimakuda, ndikufuna kukugwetsa" pafupifupi kunena kuti "Anthu inu ndinu opusa komanso osafunikira." Ndicho chimene iwo amawopa kwenikweni. Chotero adani amene amawakonda ndiwo amene amayesa kuloลตa mโmalo a Marxism, kwenikweni. Pamene a Marx abwera, apolisi adzakhala ali pomwepo. Mwina padzakhala ambiri a iwo, chabwino? Anarchists abwera, dongosolo lonse lidzasinthidwa. Anthu adzauzidwa kuti sikofunikira konse.
Kotero kuyesera kwa mtundu wotero iwo akuwopa kwenikweni. Amakonda kuzisindikiza mwachangu momwe zingathere. Kotero iyi ndi nthawi yoyamba, ndikuganiza, kuyambira ku Spain kuti mwakhala ndi gawo lalikulu loyang'aniridwa ndi anthu omwe akuyesera kuchita zimenezo; kuyesera kulenga pansi-mmwamba molunjika demokalase popanda boma.
Wofunsa: Zayesedwanso kuti?
DAVID GRAEBER: Ndikutanthauza, adayesedwa kulikonse padziko lapansi pambiri yambiri ya anthu ndipo adagwira ntchito bwino. Koma pansi pa mikhalidwe yamakono ya mafakitale, pakhala zoyesayesa zosiyanasiyana. Ndi mbiri yakale yosinthika, mumalankhula za commune ya Paris, amakhala ndi [inaudible 00:04:18]; mumalankhula za [inaudible 00:04:19] ku Ukraine. Pakhala zoyesayesa kutero. Koma nthawi zambiri aliyense, kumbali zonse, kuphatikiza mapiko akumanzere, atembenukire ndikuyesa kuletsa.
Wofunsa: Ndiye ndi zinthu ziti zomwe zimayenera kukonzedwa kapena zomwe [crosstalk 00:04:33]?
DAVID GRAEBER: Amayendetsa mizinda. Ndi dziko lachuma chenicheni; ndizosauka ndipo ali pansi pa chiletso. Koma pali anthu oyendetsa magalimoto, pali malamulo apamsewu, pali mashopu ndi mafakitale omwe amapanga zinthu, pali mafamu. Imachita zinthu zonse zomwe muli nazo pagulu labwino. Misewu iyenera kusamalidwa.
Koma kwenikweni, zomwe achita zidapangidwa ... ndizosangalatsa kwambiri. Ndanena, ndafotokoza kuti ndi mphamvu ziwiri, koma iyi ndi nthawi yoyamba m'mbiri ya anthu, ndikuganiza, pamene muli ndi mphamvu ziwiri zomwe munthu yemweyo amakhazikitsa mbali zonse ziwiri. Kotero iwo ali ndi chinthu chowoneka ngati boma; ili ndi nyumba yamalamulo, ili ndi atumiki. Amakhazikitsa malamulo.
Koma amakhalanso ndi mapangidwe apansi. Mapangidwe apansi-mmwamba ndi omwe ali "demokalase confederalism." Dera lililonse lili ndi msonkhano, ndipo msonkhano uliwonse uli ndi magulu ogwirira ntchito. Ndi anthu omwe amasamalira nkhani ndi nkhani zachipatala komanso zachitetezo. Ndipo gulu lirilonse la magulu amenewo, msonkhano uliwonse ndi gulu lirilonse logwira ntchito, limakhalanso ndi gulu la amayi. Ayenera kukhala ndi 40 peresenti ya amayi kapena alibe quorum, koma amakhalanso ndi gulu la amayi omwe angathe kutsutsa chirichonse chimene anganene. Chifukwa chake ziyenera kukhala ... zonse zimayenderana ndi jenda. Akuluakulu onse, pali awiri: mwamuna mmodzi, mmodzi wamkazi wa chirichonse. Komanso asilikali ali choncho. Ndicho chifukwa chake ali ndi zithunzi zonse zodziwika za akazi omwe ali ndi zida, koma ndizo ndale, nazonso.
Anthu adanena momveka bwino, adati, "Tawonani, ndife odana ndi capitalist. Nthawi zonse takhala anti-capitalist. Komaโฆโ Ndikuganiza kuti iwo anati, โkoma phunziro la mbiriyakale lomwe tikumva ndilakuti simungathe kuchotsa ukapitalist popanda kuchotsa boma. Ndipo simungathe kuchotsa boma popanda kuchotsa utsogoleri. โ
Chabwino, kodi mumachotsa bwanji abambo? Chabwino, kuwonetsetsa kuti azimayi onse ali ndi zida zodziwikiratu ndi malo amodzi oyambira. Simungathe kukankhira anthu kuzungulira ngati ali ndi zida. Ndipo ali ndi apolisi awo azimayi, nawonso, mongaโฆChoncho ali ndi demokalase yeniyeni ndipo izi zimachokera ku makhonsolo oyandikana nawo, ndipo makhonsolo awo amaphatikizana kukhala zigawo kenako ma municipalities, ndipo onse amatumiza nthumwi, osati oyimilira, kuti apange zisankho. pamodzi mu dongosolo lalikulu, lopangidwa.
Koma chinsinsi ndichakuti muli ndi dongosolo lapamwamba ili, muli ndi dongosolo lapansi-mmwamba. Chabwino, zomwe akunena ndikuti ili si dziko chifukwa aliyense yemwe ali ndi mfuti amayankha zoyambira pansi osati zapansi. Chifukwa chake anthu omwe ali pamwamba sangakakamize aliyense kuchita zomwe sakufuna. Pali chosiyana chimodzi, ndipo ndiwo ufulu wa amayi.
Chifukwa chake adzakhala ndi malamulo monga othetsa ukwati wa ana kapena china chonga icho, ndipo akuti ena mwa midziyi mwina angawabwezeretse ngati titawalola. Koma ndizo malire. Ndipo ali ndi njira yolimbikitsira, koma ndi apolisi azimayi onse omwe amatsatira lamuloli lokhudzana ndi amayi.
Wofunsa: akhala akuyenda ndi awa kwanthawi yayitali bwanji?
DAVID GRAEBER: Zaka zitatu kapena zinayi tsopano.
Wofunsa: Ndipo kudzoza kunali kotani? Kodi uyu anali njonda yomwe mudanena mu [crosstalk 00:07:27]?
DAVID GRAEBER: Ocalan. Abdullah Ocalan. Chithunzi chake chili paliponse. Ndizosangalatsa chifukwa kawirikawiri, amapewa kwambiri miyambo ya umunthu. M'malo mwake, sakhala ndi zithunzi za aliyense yemwe ali ndi moyo kupatula iye. Ali ndi zithunzi za anthu omwe anamwalira, kotero pali zithunzi za ofera chikhulupiriro kulikonse kuchokera kunkhondo. Koma iwo sadzawonetsa konse chithunzi cha munthu yemwe adakalipo chifukwa izi zitha kukhala zotsutsana ndi demokalase kupangitsa wina kukhala mtsogoleri wachikoka. Iye ndi wosiyana, koma ndichifukwa chakuti ali m'ndende kwa moyo wake wonse, ndiye mtsogoleri ndipo aliyense amamuvomereza. Koma zoona zake nโzakuti, dziko la Turkey likanamupha koma ankafunabe kulowa mu EU panthawiyo kuti adziwe kuti sangakwanitse.
Ndipo malinga ndi lamulo, atha kuyika umboni uliwonse wokhudzana ndi mlandu wake, anali ndi ufulu wolemba zonse. Chifukwa chake adaganiza kuti kuti afotokoze komanso kuwunikira milandu yomwe amamuimba mlandu, alembe mabuku 12 osiyanasiyana, kuphatikiza mbiri yakale yaku Middle East.
Chifukwa chake ntchitoyi yakhala ikutuluka mosalekeza ndipo imagwiritsidwa ntchito ngati maziko otsutsana ndi gulu la Kurdish. Ndipo adalengeza zonsezi, "Tiyenera kuchoka ku mtundu wankhondo wamba ndikumvetsetsa kuti kuponderezana kwa amayi ndichinthu choyambirira komanso chofunikira kwambiri chomwe tiyenera kuthana nacho. Tiyenera kumvetsetsa kuti chilengedwe ndi chofunikira kwambiri pakudyera masuku pamutu. โ Chifukwa chake akhala mtundu uwu wa gulu lankhondo lazachilengedwe lazachikazi kutengera mfundo za demokalase yeniyeni.
Wofunsa: Kodi ntchito zake zilipo mu Chingerezi?
DAVID GRAEBER: Eya. Osati onse, mwachiwonekere, koma pali ma voliyumu omwe akutuluka mosalekeza. Ndipo mukudziwa, kuchokera kumalingaliro a anarchist, kumlingo wina ndizowopsa. Mupita kumeneko ndipo pali zithunzi zonse za mtsogoleri wamkulu; Ndinafika powatchula kuti Amalume Eoj, monga Amalume Joe chakumbuyo. Iye ndi wosiyana chifukwa ali ngati mtsogoleri wopondereza akuuza aliyense kuti awerenge anarchism ndikusiya kukhala wopondereza. Ndipo zimayika maulamuliro achikale mumgwirizano woyipa chifukwa amayenera kuchita chilichonse chomwe mtsogoleriyo anena. Mtsogoleri akunena kuti ganizani nokha.
Mwachionekere, achicheperewo ali okondwa kwambiri. Iwo sali anarchists, koma amavomereza malingaliro ambiri a anarchist; akhala akuwerenga anarchism. Iwo ndi odana ndi boma, kotero zomwe amadzitcha okha zilibe kanthu kuchokera ku malo a anarchist bola ngati muli odana ndi boma komanso odana ndi capitalism.
Wofunsa: Kodi amateteza bwanji gawolo?
DAVID GRAEBER: Iwo amakhulupirira lingaliro la chitetezo. Nkhani yake ndiyakuti, ndi omenyera bwino kwambiri ku Syria.
Wofunsa: Kodi pali kusiyana kotani pakati pa dziko ndi zomwe akuchita? Chifukwa ali ndi gawo lawo, ndithudi ...
DAVID GRAEBER: Ndi kuteteza anthu. Amanena kuti monga ... mkangano womwe ali nawo ndi ...
Wofunsa: Kodi uku sikusiyana kwa semantic, komabe?
DAVID GRAEBER: Chabwino, iwo amaganiza osati chifukwa chimene iwo anganene kuti monga boma ndi monopoly wa ntchito yovomerezeka ya mphamvu, kumene, m'gawo. Iwo alibe monopoly wotere. Ndi bungwe la demokalase pansi mmwamba. Palibe bungwe lomwe lingachite izi.
Ndiye iwo amati, "Chabwino, bungwe lililonse liyenera kudziteteza lokha, chilichonse mwachilengedwe chiyenera kudziteteza." Chitetezo ndi ... Ndipo ndi demokalase; amasankha atsogoleri awo. Usiku uliwonse amakambirana zisankho ndikuzidzudzula [inaudible 00:10:43] amazichotsa, ndiye zonse ndikuyesa kwambiri demokalase.
Ndipo mungaganize kuti, โZabwino. Akangofuna gulu lankhondo lenileni, tiyeni tiwone zomwe zichitike. โ Chabwino iwo nthawizonse amapambana. Iwo akhala akugonjetsa kwathunthu ISIS mwadongosolo pansi, ndipo pakadali pano, akuguba ku likulu la ISIS.
Wofunsa: Ndiye ichi ndi "Tonse tabwererana?" Ndiwo vibe yawo, inde? Ndilo lingaliro lawo. Ndipo mwati akugubaโฆ
DAVID GRAEBER: Raqqa. Amereka ali pachiwopsezo chofuna kuthandizira gulu la anarchists. Awa ndi anthu okhawo omwe ali omenyera nkhondo abwino m'derali omwe akuyesera kuti atulutse a fascists.
Interviewer: Ndinaona kuti ndi zachilendo ndithu, popita kuno ndinaganiza kuti mwina ndikufunsa David za kasamalidwe ka polojekiti, chifukwa cha ntchito zanu zaulamuliro komanso zachipongwe. Koma mwanjira ina, anthu awa ndi chitsanzo cha kasamalidwe kabwino ka polojekiti, sichoncho?
DAVID GRAEBER: O, eya. Anthu samamvetsetsa; iwo amaganiza kuti anthu omwe amatsutsa ... kuti anarchists amatsutsana ndi mitundu yonse ya chilichonse chomwe chimawoneka ngati chopanda pake; kasamalidwe kalikonse, kasamalidwe kalikonse; mtundu uliwonse wa bungwe, ngakhale. Izi ndi ... Ndikukhulupirira kuti pali anthu ena ngati amenewo. Koma monga momwe Malatesta ankanenera, "Mukanena kuti otsutsa ndi anthu openga omwe amatsutsana ndi chirichonse, anthu onse omwe ali openga omwe amatsutsana ndi chirichonse adzayamba kudzitcha otsutsa." Izi sizikutanthauza kwenikweni zomwe ena omwe nthawi zonse amadzitcha kuti anarchists anganene.
Anarchism sikutsutsana ndi bungwe; zikutanthauza kuti anthu sayenera kukakamizidwa kudzikonza okha. Ndipotu amakhulupirira kwambiri gulu kuposa wina aliyense.
Wofunsa: Chabwino, chifukwa chomwe ndimadzifunsa chinali, kodi mumadziwa bwanji ... malangizo anu pa kayendetsedwe ka polojekiti?
DAVID GRAEBER: Chabwino, ndikuganiza kuti kuyankha ndikofunikira. Ngati muli ndi dongosolo lomwe aliyense anganene zomwe akufuna, muyenera kubwera ndipo palibe amene angakakamizidwe kuchita zinazake; izo mwachiwonekere zopusa. Muyenera kuzichita mwanzeru.
Mwachitsanzo, ndondomeko ya mgwirizano. Aliyense amalankhula za izi ngati kuti ndi malamulo ovuta, monga Robert's Rules of Order, ndipo adayenera kukanikiza. Koma iwo akuchita izo molakwika. Mfundo yake ndi yakuti palibe amene ayenera kukakamizidwa kuchita zinthu zimene amadana nazo mwachiwawa. Ngati mulibe njira zochitira zimenezi, chilichonse chimene mungachite chidzakhala chogwirizana chifukwa mudzamvera zimene aliyense akuganiza, ndipo mudzafika pamalo amene palibe amene angawapeze mwachiwawa. zotsutsa, zomwe kwenikweni zonse zimagwirizana.
Wofunsa: Koma kodi chimachitika nโchiyani anthu akati, โTilibe nthawi yokwanira yomvetsera aliyense?โ
DAVID GRAEBER: Chabwino ndiye, zimatengera momwe zinthu ziliri. Ngati chinachake chiyenera kuchitika, ndiye kuti ndibwino kunena bwino, kwa maola atatu otsatirawa ali ndi udindo. Palibe cholakwika ndi izi ngati aliyense avomereza. Kapena mumakonza.
Koma kuvomerezana ndi njira yosasinthika, ndipo zonse zomwe ndimakhulupirira ndikutenga mutu wofunikira kuti ngati simungathe kukakamiza anthu kuchita zinthu zomwe sakufuna kapena akuganiza kuti ndizolakwika kapena zopusa, ndiye kuti mukupita. kuti apange dongosolo la kumva anthu kunja. Ndicho chinthu chokha chimene ine sindikananyengerera nacho. Zina zonse zili ngati njira yabwino kwambiri yochitira izi?
Mwachitsanzo, ku Kurdistan adabwera ndi njira yosangalatsa komanso yopangira izi. Iwo amati amasiyanitsa nkhani zaukadaulo, zamakhalidwe kapena ndale. Ndipo amati ndi zinthu zaukadaulo mutha kuchita mavoti ambiri. "Tikumana 4 kapena tikumana 5?" Ndiye kusonyeza manja. Ngati zili ngati, "Kodi tiyenera kukhala achiwawa kapena osakhala achiwawa?" Chabwino, ndiye muyenera kukhala ndi mgwirizano.
Ndipo, ndithudi, mwachiwonekere funso ndiloti ndani angasankhe funso la makhalidwe abwino ndi luso lotani? Kotero wina anganene kuti, "Chabwino, funso la zimbalangondo zinayi kapena zisanu pa anthu olumala, ndipo ndilo funso labwino." Kotero izo zimakhala pang'ono za mpira wandale. Nthawi zonse pamakhala zinthu zotsutsana komanso zotsutsana.
Komabe, mutha kuchita bwino mukayenera kutero, koma mumachita bwino ndi zinthu zomwe ndizofunikira kwambiri kuposa zomwe zili pachiwopsezo.
Wofunsa mafunso: Ndinakufunsanipo za utsogoleri m'magulu omenyera ufulu, munawonapo. Ndipo inu munandiuza ine kuti inu mukhoza kulankhula za izo mpaka kalekale. Koma ngati inu mukanangondiuza ine za izo.
DAVID GRAEBER: Ndizo ndendende zomwe ndikunena. Tsopano, anthu omwe samamvetsetsa kuti awa ndi mfundo zomwe munthu angathe kuwongolera ndikupeza chinthu chomwe chili chabwino kwa gulu linalake la anthu ndi chinthu china chomwe akuyesera kuchita, amakhala ngati chilichonse. ndi malamulo amene muyenera kuwatsatira. Ndipo zimandikhumudwitsa kwambiri.
Nthawi zambiri ndimakhala ndi anthu mkati mwa Occupy omwe ankakhulupirira kuti ndine munthu wofuna kuti pali buku la malamulo ogwirizana, chifukwa ndimadana ndi kuvomerezana. Ndikutanthauza, sindiri wogwirizana mtheradi, mgwirizano wosinthidwa. Nthawi zonse payenera kukhala china chake [inaudible 00:15:24]. Nthawi zonse pamakhala munthu mmodzi kapena awiri omwe ndi openga kapena osaganiza bwino kapena china chake. Choncho, zonse zomwe zili mkati mwa chifukwa, kuphatikizapo kulingalira.
Komabe, padzakhala anthu ena oganiza kuti ndine munthu wolamulira, ndipo anthu ena amati ndine wopenga wa anarchist amang'amba malamulo onse, zomwe mwina zikuwonetsa kuti ndikumenya bwino pakati. Koma inde, pali chizoloลตezi choyambitsa utsogoleri ndipo pali zifukwa zosiyanasiyana. Ine kwenikweni ... chimodzi mwa zinthu zomwe ine ndimakonda kuyang'ana mu bukhu ndi chifukwa chake izo zimachitika.
Chilankhulo ndi chitsanzo chabwino cha izi. Kumbali imodzi, zilankhulo zimasintha nthawi zonse. Palibe chinenero padziko lapansi chofanana ndi zaka 100 zapitazo. Ndichoncho chifukwa chiyani? Chabwino, anthu amakonda kusewera. Aliyense amene ... akuchita mosiyana pang'ono, akusangalala nazo pang'ono. Ndipo pang'onopang'ono, zinthu ... zilibe kanthu ngati muli ku Sweden kapena New Guinea kapena Ecuador kapena kwina kulikonse. Anthu amafuna kusangalala. Adzasewera mozungulira ndi chinenero.
Koma kumbali ina, ngati muwauza anthu kuti akulakwitsa, amakukhulupirirani. Kotero ngati mutenga buku la malamulo la momwe chinenero chinaliri mu 1910 ndi kunena, "Taonani, onani. Mwaipitsa chinenero.โ Iwo adzati, โO Mulungu wanga, mukulondola. Tiphunzitseni kulankhula bwino.โ Onse amagwiritsa ntchito slang ndi kumasuka ndikubwera ndi njira zatsopano zolankhulirana, ndiyeno adzakukhulupirirani ngati munganene kuti sayenera kuchita zimenezo. Ndipo mwanjira ina, ili ndiye vuto lalikulu lomwe limapangitsa kuti maofesiwa atheke.
Wofunsa: Ndiye mukutanthauza, mwachitsanzo, chilankhulo ndi chinthu chomwe chimakhala ndi malamulo, ndipo ngati wina abwera ndikuti [inaudible 00:16:56]?
DAVID GRAEBER: Koma malamulo akusintha nthawi zonse.
Wofunsa: Kulondola. Kodi mukuganiza kuti timakonda kulamulidwa?
DAVID GRAEBER: Sindikudziwa ngati ndi choncho. Ndikutanthauza, anthu ena mwachiwonekere amatero. Nthawi zina ndi ulesi; samangofuna kukhala ndi udindo wosankha zinthu nthawi zonse. Chimodzi mwa zifukwa zomwe timakonda kulamuliridwa ndi chifukwa chakuti tikhoza kuimba mlandu munthu wina akalakwitsa. Pali zolemetsa zina za udindo pamene ndimayenera kukhala gawo la ... munthu amene amapanga chisankho.
Ndikutanthauza, mbali za mphamvu zomwe zimakondweretsa zimakhala zogwirizana ndi mphamvu zomwe zimawopsya, ndipo kwa anthu ena, ndithudi amaganiza kuti ndizoyenera kuopsa ndikusangalala ndi mbali zokondweretsa kwambiri kuposa momwe amawopsyeza mbali zowopsya. , ndi anthu enanso. Ndipo ndicho chinthu chimodzi chomwe chimalola mphamvu kuwonekera.
Ndikutanthauza kuti, ndikumva mwamphamvu kwambiri, mwa njira, kuti kukakamiza kutenga nawo mbali mu demokalase yeniyeni ndikolakwika monga kusalola anthu kutenga nawo mbali. Muchitsanzo chilichonse cha demokalase yopambana, yanthawi yayitali yomwe ndikudziwa, anthu ena samawoneka. Nthawi zambiri imakhala chiลตerengero cha anthu pafupifupi gawo limodzi mwa magawo atatu a anthu omwe ali mu kibbutz kapena chinachake chonga icho. Iwo ndi osowa ndondomeko. Iwo ndi andale.
Koma akuchita podziwa kuti ngati achita zomwe anthu sakonda, anthuwo adzawonekera pamsonkhano wotsatira mosasamala kanthu kuti akhala aulesi bwanji mpaka pano. Chifukwa chake mwanjira ina, akuyenera kusunga ... kukumbukira zokonda za aliyense chifukwa alibe ufulu wowayimira.
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