AMY GOODMAN: A posachedwapa Washington PostKafukufuku wa ABC News adapeza kuti 86 peresenti ya anthu aku America aku America adavomereza ntchito yomwe Purezidenti Obama akuchita, ngakhale kuti kumuthandiza kwatsika pakati pamagulu ena. Izi zikuchokera ku Washington Post. Malingalirowa ndi ovuta, komabe: "Mwa anthu akuda, kuvomerezedwa kwa ndondomeko zachuma za pulezidenti kwachepa, ndi 54 peresenti yokha yomwe inanena kuti ndondomeko zapangitsa kuti chuma chikhale bwino poyerekeza ndi 77 peresenti mu October." Cornel West, nonse mwakhala wothandizira Senator Obama pakukhala purezidenti komanso wotsutsa kwambiri. Mavoti awa akusintha, ngakhale pakati pa gulu lake lalikulu kwambiri lothandizira. Nanga bwanji zomwe zachitika, ndipo mukuganiza kuti Purezidenti Obama akuyesera kutenga dzikolo, ndipo mukuganiza kuti liyenera kupita kuti?
KORNEL WEST: Chabwino, ndikuganiza, mbali imodzi, anthu ambiri akuda akufuna kuteteza Purezidenti Obama motsutsana ndi ziwopsezo zowopsa za mapiko akumanja, kuwukira ngati Fox News, mabodza onena kuti iye ndi socialist, Muslim ndi zina zotero. Kumbali ina, kuvutika kumakula. Zikuwonekeratu kuti Purezidenti Obama amangokhalira kubwereza mobwerezabwereza. Iye amawombera poyamba pansi. Ngati muli naye pachibwenzi, muli m'mavuto, chifukwa akufuna kunyengerera, mukufuna kumenyana. Alibe mtundu wa nsana womwe amayenera kukhala nawo. Kotero anthu akuda amadzipeza ali m'mavuto: timamuteteza bwanji ku zigawenga zoyenera komanso panthawi imodzimodziyo kuti aziyankha mlandu, makamaka pankhani ya anthu osauka ndi ogwira ntchito?
Tsoka ilo, Tim Geithner ndi gulu lake lazachuma alibe chochita ndi cholowa cha Martin King, alibe chidwi ndi anthu osauka ndi ogwira ntchito. Amawamvera, chifukwa chake amalumikizana kwambiri ndi oligarchs kuposa anthu osauka. Tikukhulupirira kuti asintha malingaliro ake. Tikukhulupirira kuti apeza gulu lazachuma lomwe likupita patsogolo, ngakhale, monga mukudziwa, ambiri aife tikuyang'ana zotheka zina pachisankho chomwe chikubwera, chifukwa cha kutentha kwake.
AMY GOODMAN: Kodi mukufufuza chiyani kwenikweni? Mukunena za munthu wina yemwe akufuna kukhala purezidenti?
KORNEL WEST: Angakhale munthu wofanana ndi Bernie Sanders yemwe adadzipereka kwambiri ku cholowa cha Martin King ndi Fannie Lou Hamer ndi Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel ndi Dorothy Day, kuyika anthu osauka ndi ogwira ntchito pakati.
AMY GOODMAN: Mukanena kuti Bernie Sanders, kodi Bernie Sanders akuganiza zokhala Purezidenti?
KORNEL WEST: Tsoka ilo, sindikuganiza choncho.
TAVIS OSAUKA: Iye anati iye sali.
KORNEL WEST: Ine ndikukhumba iye akanakhala, chifukwa iye ndi m'bale wamtundu wanga. Koma munthu woteroyo ali ndi msana ndi kulimba mtima.
AMY GOODMAN: Tavis Smiley, kodi mungakonde kuwona wina akuthamanga, ndipo mukuganizira nokha?
TAVIS OSAUKA: Kumeneko ndiko nthabwala za tsikuli. Kwenikweni, Dr. West ali ndi mzere wabwino pa izo, Amy. Munayenera kumufunsa funso limenelo; ali ndi mzere waukulu. Akuti, mungamupeze posachedwa m'nyumba ya crack kuposa ku White House. Ndilo kuyankha kwake kwa izo.
Monga mukudziwira bwino, udindo wanga pawailesi yakanema wapagulu ndi wailesi zapagulu sikundiyika m'malo ovomereza ofuna kusankhidwa. Sindinachite zimenezo. Ntchito yanga ndikulankhula za kuyankha, kutsutsa anthu kuti awonenso malingaliro omwe ali nawo okhudza osauka, kuwathandiza kukulitsa malingaliro awo, kudziwitsa anthu aku America kwa osauka ndi nsanja zomwe ndili nazo. Chifukwa chake sindili mu bizinesi yovomereza, ndili mubizinesi yoyankha. Ndipo ndichifukwa chake tili paulendo waumphawi uwu.
Koma ku funso lanu, sindikuganiza kuti Purezidenti angavulazidwe, kwenikweni - dziko silingapweteke - ndi vuto lalikulu lomwe lingamukhazikitsenso zomwe zili zofunika kwambiri. Zikanamulimbikitsanso pa zomwe zikuchitika kwa anthu ambiri mdziko muno. Zingamukhazikitsenso pa ndondomeko yopita patsogolo. Koma nditanena izi, ndikuganiza ngati mpikisano unachitika lero, Purezidenti amapambanabe. Simungamenye wina popanda aliyense, ndipo sindikuwona yemwe angagonjetse Purezidenti. Choncho, ine ndi Doc takhala ndi makangano ambiri, ndipo ndikutsimikiza kuti tibwereranso pa mtsutso uwu tikakweranso basi ndi kunyamuka kupita ku mzinda wotsatira m'mphindi zochepa chabe pa Poverty Tour.
AMY GOODMAN: Ife tiyenera kuzisiya izo pamenepo.
TAVIS OSAUKA: Koma ndikuganiza kuti vuto lingamukhazikitsenso—
AMY GOODMAN: Tavis, tikuyenera kuzisiya pamenepo. Tavis Smiley ndi Cornel West, zikomo kwambiri chifukwa chobwera nafe.
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