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Monga boma la US Covid-Chiwopsezo cha anthu 19 omwe amwalira chikuphwanya mbiri padziko lonse lapansi ndikudutsa 250,000, zipatala zili ndi mphamvu, ndipo ogwira ntchito yazaumoyo atatopa alibe zida zodzitetezera. Akuluakulu azaumoyo ati zinthu ziipiraipira kwambiri ndi maulendo atchuthi komanso kusonkhana kwa mabanja pa Thanksgiving. โSindinganene mopambanitsa za kufunika kwa masiku angapo otsatira,โ anatero Ed Yong, wolemba zasayansi pa The Atlantic. "Anthu omwe atenga kachilombo ku Thanksgiving, alowa m'zipatala m'masabata awiri pambuyo pake, ndipo ena mwa anthuwa adzakhala atamwalira Khrisimasi isanachitike."
AMY GOODMAN: Chiwerengero cha anthu omwe anamwalira ku US kuchokera Covid-19 yadutsa anthu kotala miliyoni pomwe kachilomboka kamafalikira kuchokera kugombe kupita kugombe, ndi matenda 172,000 ndipo pafupifupi anthu 2,000 amwalira Lachitatu lokha. Zipatala zaku US zikupitilirabe kusokoneza mbiri, ndi opitilira 73,000 Covid-19 odwala. Chiwerengero cha anthu omwe amafa tsiku lililonse chikukwera m'maboma 33.
Koma monga Covid akuphwanya mbiri iliyonse kuno ku United States pomwe zikuyembekezeka kuti tchuthi chikubwera, Mlembi wa Zaumoyo ndi Ntchito za Anthu a Alex Azar adati Lachitatu sagwira ntchito ndi Purezidenti wosankhidwa a Joe Biden mpaka General Services Administration italengeza kuti wapambana pachisankho. HHS Ogwira ntchito adalangizidwa kuti asalankhulane ndi gulu la Biden. Biden adati kusunthaku kutha kuchedwetsa kufalitsa katemera pakadutsa milungu kapena miyezi.
Izi zikubwera pomwe malipoti akuti zipatala zafika pachimake komanso kuchuluka kwa ogwira ntchito yazaumoyo komanso kusowa kwa zida zodzitetezera zomwe zimakumbukira miyezi yoyamba ya mliri. Biden adalankhula ndi ogwira ntchito kutsogolo pavidiyo Lachitatu. Ili ndi gawo lakusinthana kwake ndi a Mary Turner, namwino wachipatala cha anthu odwala kwambiri, Purezidenti wa chaputala cha Minnesota cha National Nurses United. Pamene amalankhula, Biden adapukuta misozi.
MARIYA WOCHITSA: Kodi ukudziwa kuti sindinayesedwebe, ndipo ndakhala ndikutsogola m'gululi ICU kuyambira February?
PRESIDENT-WOSankhidwa JOE BIDA: Ukundiseka.
MARIYA WOCHITSA: Ayi. Timafunikiranso antchito otetezeka a anamwino m'zipatala. Ndipo odwala omwe ali kapena angakhale Covid-odwala omwe ali ndi vuto ayenera kukhala olekanitsidwa ndi anthu ambiri odwala. Ogwira ntchito omwe awululidwa kapena odwala ayenera kuloledwa kukhala kwaokha kunyumba, osawopa kutaya ndalama ndi ntchito zawo. Ichi ndi kachilombo koyambitsa matenda, koma mfundo zoyendetsera matenda siziri. Zipatala zathu sizimapereka chitetezo chofunikirachi. โฆ
Anamwino m'dziko lonselo anali omasuka komanso othokoza, a Purezidenti Osankhidwa, pamene mudadzipereka kuchitapo kanthu kuti tithane ndi mliriwu. โฆ
Mukudziwa, ife anamwino, tikudziwa kuti tikukumana ndi imfa ndi mavuto aakulu m'masabata akubwerawa. Ndipo tidzakhala komweko. Koma tiyenera kuchitapo kanthu panopa. Tiyenera kuchitapo kanthu mwachangu kuteteza ogwira ntchito zachipatala, kuti tipulumutse miyoyo yambiri momwe tingathere. Zikomo.
PRESIDENT-WOSankhidwa JOE BIDA: Mary -
MARIYA WOCHITSA: Pepani ndikukhudzidwa kwambiri.
PRESIDENT-WOSankhidwa JOE BIDA: No.
MARIYA WOCHITSA: Ndi basi -
PRESIDENT-WOSankhidwa JOE BIDA: Mwandikwiyitsa.
AMY GOODMAN: Ndiye Purezidenti wosankhidwa a Joe Biden akuyankha a Mary Turner, purezidenti wa chaputala cha Minnesota cha National Nurses United.
Chabwino, kuti mudziwe zambiri, tikupita ku Washington, DC, komwe tidalumikizana ndi Ed Yong. Iye ndi wolemba sayansi pa Atlantic, ake atsopano nkhani mutu wakuti โ'Palibe Amene Amatimvera': Anthu ambiri agonekedwa m'chipatala Covid-19. Ogwira ntchito zachipatala sangapitirize chonchi.โ
Ed Yong, tikuyandikira anthu 2,000 tsiku limodzi omwe akumwalira mdziko muno, ndikuwononga mbiri iliyonse padziko lapansi chifukwa Covid-19. Nkhani yanu yaposachedwa ikukhudza ogwira ntchito zachipatala. Pakadali pano, Purezidenti Trump adakhalabe ku White House. Kwa masiku 12, sanakhalepo ndi zochitika zapagulu, ndipo pa ndandanda yake yobwera, palibe zochitika zapagulu zomwe ziyenera kuwonedwa. Kodi mungalankhule za momwe dziko lino lilili pompano? Sizokhudza zomwe zikadakhala, ngakhale ili ndi vuto lalikulu kwambiri kuti muwone, koma zomwe zikuchitika pakali pano. Pali masiku ambiri omwe Purezidenti Trump adzakhalabe Purezidenti, zomwe zikutanthauza kuti masauzande ndi masauzande a anthu adzafa.
ED YATALI: Inde, sindingathe kutsindika kwambiri kufunika kwa masiku angapo otsatirawa. Chifukwa chake, ndiroleni ndikufotokozereni chithunzi chonse. Ndizosangalatsa kwambiri kuti munanena kuti Trump watsekedwa masiku 12, chifukwa nambalayi ndiyofunikira. Nthawi zambiri pamakhala kutha kwa masiku 12 pakati pa kukwera kwa milandu ndikukwera m'zipatala. Ndipo izi zikutanthauza kuti nkhani zonse zomwe mwamva, ndizo ICU namwino, nkhani zonse zonena za zipatala ku Midwest kukhala zokwanira ndipo sizingathe kupirira, sizimawerengera anthu miliyoni imodzi ndi theka omwe atsimikiziridwa kuti ali ndi kachilombo m'masiku 12 apitawa. Ena mwa anthuwa adzalowa m'zipatala, omwe akulephera kale kupirira zomwe ali nazo pakalipano, m'milungu iwiri ikubwerayi mu Thanksgiving. Ndipo anthu omwe amatenga kachilomboka pa Thanksgiving, alowa zipatala m'masabata awiri pambuyo pake, ndipo ena mwa anthuwa adzakhala atamwalira Khrisimasi isanachitike. Ndicho chimene ife tikuyang'ana. Tikuyang'ana zatsoka lalikulu.
Ndipo sindingathe - ndizovuta kufotokoza momwe anamwino ndi madotolo akuchitira izi. Ndakhala masabata angapo apitawa ndikufunsa ambiri a iwo kuzungulira dzikolo. Ndinakhalapo ndi anamwino akundilirira foni. Namwino anandiuza - namwino yemwe amagwira ntchito m'chipatala cha khansa adandiuza koyambirira kwa sabata ino kuti sangathe ngakhale kukonza - sadziwa ngakhale momwe angasinthire kuchuluka kwa imfa yomwe akuwona pachipatala. Covid mawodi. Chipatala chimodzi chokonzekera bwino kwambiri mdziko lonselo, ku Nebraska, chasandutsa nsanja yonse Covid mayunitsi. Akulimbana ndi odwala ochulukirapo, ambiri komanso makamaka Covid odwala, kuposa momwe amachitirapo.
NERMEEN SHAIKH: Ed Yong, m'nkhani yanu yokhudza ogwira ntchito zachipatala, kuphatikiza apo, pakutopa komwe mukunena, palinso vuto lazotsatira zandale za mliriwu komanso kuyankha kwa olamulira a Trump. Mwalemba mโnkhani yaposachedwapa kuti, โAntchito azaumoyo ndi akuluakulu aboma alandira ziwopsezo ndi mauthenga achipongwe oneneza kuti amachita mantha.โ Choncho, kuwonjezera pa zotsatira zovulaza kwambiri zimenezi kwa anamwino ndi madokotala, iwonso akuzunzidwa.
ED YATALI: Akuchitiridwa nkhanza. Akuzunzidwa. Akuluakulu a zaumoyo akutengera izi. Koma ngakhale mutakhala - mukudziwa, nenani kuti simukuzunzidwa komanso kuzunzidwa. Mukadali - mukudziwa, ena mwa anthu omwe ndidalankhula nawo akugwiritsabe ntchito maola 12 ICU. Iwo akuwona odwala akufa pa iwo. Akuyenera kuwatsekera zipi odwalawo m'matumba athupi. Kenako amamaliza masinthidwewo, ndikumapita kunyumba kudutsa mizere yamalesitilanti odzaza, kudutsa malo odzaza masewera, kupitilira anthu akuchita maphwando ndikupita kumalo osambira. Zimenezi nโzowononga kwambiri maganizo. Mukudziwa, awa ndi anthu omwe akuyesera kupulumutsa miyoyo ya aliyense. Iwo amizidwa. Iwo atopa. Ndipo kumapeto kwa tsiku, amakakamizika kuyang'ana anthu omwe angakhale ali m'ma ICU awo ndikuwonjezera zolemetsa zawo pakatha milungu iwiri. Ndipo kutopa kwachitukuko chokumana ndi anthu amene sakuchita mbali yake kukuwononga.
Anthu omwe ndalankhula nawo adanena kuti m'nyengo yachisanu, pamene izi zinayamba, anali amphamvu, ndipo anali ndi cholinga ndikuwatsogolera. Ndipo mwa zina izi zidalimbikitsidwa ndi mfundo yakuti anthu ena anali kuchita gawo lawo ndipo aliyense anali nawo limodzi. Koma tadutsa masiku omwe anthu amawomba m'manja kwa ogwira ntchito yazaumoyo madzulo. Anthu aiwala, ndipo kutopa kwa mliri kwayamba. Ndipo izi zikutanthauza kuti ogwira ntchito yazaumoyo, omwe akhala akuchita izi kwa chaka chonse, pafupifupi osapuma, ndipo tsopano atopa, akumva ngati asiyidwa okha ndi anthu. poyera kuti akuyesera kupulumutsa.
NERMEEN SHAIKH: Ed, takhala tikulankhula tsopano, za matenda, koma makamaka za kufa ku US ndi momwe US โโimawonekera. Ndilo nambala wani padziko lonse lapansi pankhani yaimfa. Koma mudalemba kale, mu Ogasiti, mu a Chidutswa za onyamula aatali, otchedwa Covid zonyamula zazitali. Izi zinali mu Ogasiti. Kodi mungalankhule za zomwe amanyamula nthawi yayitali komanso zomwe taphunzira kuyambira mu Ogasiti zamtunduwu, zomwe sizimakhudza anthu okalamba komanso omwe ali pachiwopsezo, komanso, monga mwanenera m'chidutswachi, anthu omwe kale anali athanzi komanso athanzi. nawonso achinyamata?
ED YATALI: Inde. Choncho, zambiri Covid odwala akhala akudwala kwa miyezi yambiri tsopano, atadutsa nthawi yomwe amayenera kukhala ochepa Covid akuyenera kumaliza. Zizindikirozi nthawi zambiri sizikhala zovuta kuti ziwatumize ku ICU, koma ndi okhwima ndithu moti angafooketse miyoyo yawo. Zimaphatikizapo mavuto a minyewa, monga chifunga chaubongo; kutopa komwe kumawalepheretsa kuchita ngakhale ntchito zosavuta komanso zomwe zimapanga zochitika zatsiku ndi tsiku - monga, ngakhale kuchita masewera olimbitsa thupi pang'ono ndi malingaliro kumatha kuwapangitsa kukhala pachiwopsezo chachikulu cha thupi.
Monga anthu ena ambiri omwe ali ndi matenda osachiritsika, monga dysautonomia kapena myalgic encephalomyelitis, anthu omwe amanyamula nthawi yayitali nthawi zambiri amachotsedwa ndi achipatala ndikunyalanyazidwa. Koma akhala akukakamira kuti adziwike okha. Iwo akhala akuchita kafukufuku mdera lawo. Iwo ali ndi chidwi ndi NIH ndi WHO. Ndipo akupanga madera ndikukankhira ndi kudzilimbikitsa okha.
Choyipa kwambiri apa ndikuti tikudziwa kuti gawo lina, gawo losadziwikabe, la anthu omwe amapeza. Covid-19 adzathera mu ndowa iyi. Ndipo ndi mamiliyoni a anthu omwe akudwala matendawa tsopano mofulumira kuposa kale lonse, tikuyang'ana chiwerengero chachikulu cha anthu omwe akuvutikabe ndi zotsatira za Covid-19 mpaka chaka chamawa, ndipo mwina motalika kuposa pamenepo. Tikuyang'ana za chiwopsezo chachikulu cha olumala kwanthawi yayitali, chomwe sindikuganiza kuti America ndi yokonzekera kutali.
AMY GOODMAN: Ed, mungalankhule za olamulira a Trump akukana kulumikizana ndi oyang'anira a Biden omwe akubwera, izi zikutanthauza chiyani? Emily Murphy, yemwe, mwachiwonekere, tsiku ndi tsiku, akusankha chochita - inde, ayenera kuyitanitsa olamulira a Trump, koma aliyense atha kusankha yekha zomwe akufuna kuchita ngati zikukhudza, mwachitsanzo, kupulumutsa miyoyo, komwe angachite - saina kuti atsimikizire zomwe zikutanthauza kuti oyang'anira a Biden atha kuyamba kukonzekera, ngati mpikisano wothamanga, pomwe simuyima kenako ndikutenga ndodo ndikuthamanga - mukuthamanga limodzi ndi wothamanga. mโmbuyo mwanu, ndipo mutenga ndodo kwa iwo. Tili pamalo pomwe a Biden akunena kuti izi zitha kubwerera m'mbuyo, mwachitsanzo, kugawa kwa katemera, osati masabata okha, komanso miyezi. Ndilo gawo limodzi chabe la izi. Lankhulani za kufunikira kwa izi, monga Purezidenti Trump abisala ku White House.
ED YATALI: Chabwino, ndi zina mwa zisankho zazitali zomwe olamulira a Trump apanga zomwe zalepheretsa kwambiri US kuwongolera vuto lomwe lingathe kulamuliridwa, lomwe lingapeweke. Palibe chilichonse mwa izi chomwe chiyenera kukhala chikuyenda monga momwe zakhalira, ndipo ndi chifukwa cha kusachita bwino kwa utsogoleriwu chaka chonse. Ndipo zikuwoneka ngati ataya zisankho zaposachedwa, sawonetsa zizindikiro zosonyeza njira ina.
Ndizomvetsa chisoni kwambiri, chifukwa kwa nthawi yoyamba, ndikuganiza, chiyembekezo chenicheni chili pafupi. Tili ndi oyang'anira omwe akubwera omwe adalumbira kuti atenga izi mozama, omwe adasankha akatswiri enieni azachipatala ku gulu lawo, lomwe lili ndi dongosolo lomwe limangowerenga kwambiri ngati misewu ina yonse ndi mapulani omwe akatswiri akhala akukankhira kwa chaka chatha. . Tili ndi lonjezo la katemera awiri ogwira mtima kwambiri m'chizimezime. Ndipo ngakhale, inde, tikudikirira zenizeni pazomwezo, zizindikiro zoyambirira zimawoneka zolimbikitsa kwambiri, mwina zabwino kwambiri kuposa momwe akatswiri ambiri amayembekezera. Chifukwa chake, kuwala kumapeto kwa ngalandeyo kumakhala kowala kwambiri kuposa kale, koma ngalandeyo payokha ndi yakuda kwambiri. Machitidwe ena azaumoyo agwa. Ndipo ziwopsezo za kufa zomwe mwawona zikukwera kwambiri zikachitika, pomwe madokotala ndi anamwino sangathenso kusamalira wodwala aliyense. Tikufika pamenepa, adzafunika kusankha amene angamupulumutse ndi kumusiya kuti afe.
Ndipo kotero, mukudziwa, ndivuto, inde, kuti a Trump sakuthandizira kusintha kwa Biden, koma sitingadikire nthawi imeneyo. Sitingadikire kuti utsogoleri watsopano ubwere, mu Januwale. Ndipo ngakhale mu interregnum iyi, sizikugwera osati gulu losintha la Biden komanso gulu logwira ntchito, zimagwera tonsefe kuti tichite gawo lathu. Zikugwera kwa tonsefe kuletsa mapulani athu oyenda. Zimatipempha kuti tizikhala kutali ndi anthu ena omwe si a m'nyumba mwathu. Malo amkati ndi njira yabwino kwambiri - malo amkati amapereka zina mwazinthu zabwino kwambiri kuti kachilomboka kafalitse - mipiringidzo, malo odyera, malo ochitira masewera olimbitsa thupi, maphwando apanyumba, maphwando a chakudya chamadzulo. Izi ndi njira zomwe zimagwiritsa ntchito SARS-CoV-2 virus imafalikira mosavuta, ndipo tiyenera kupewa izi mtsogolomo. Tiyenera kugwa, ndipo tikuyenera kudzipatula kwa wina ndi mnzake, ngakhale panthawi yowawa iyi yomwe tikufunadi kuwona ndi kusonkhanitsa ndikukumbatira mabanja athu, chifukwa ngati sititero, magawo ambiri azachipatala mdziko lathu ali. zidzangowonongeka mkati mwa miyezi ingapo yotsatira, zizindikiro za chiyembekezo zisanafike, utsogoleri watsopano usanayambe komanso katemera asanayambe.
NERMEEN SHAIKH: Ed Yong, monga momwe mwanenera, katemera akupereka chiyembekezo - osati katemera awiri okha omwe angakhale opambana kwambiri omwe akupereka chiyembekezo osati kwa anthu aku US okha, komanso padziko lonse lapansi. Koma ndikufuna ndikufunseni zamavuto ena omwe mayiko ambiri - makamaka, mayiko ambiri padziko lapansi - angakumane nawo kuti apeze katemerayu, woyamba wokhudzana ndi kugawa, chifukwa katemera onsewa amafunikira kusungidwa ndi mayendedwe kutentha kwa subzero; ndipo chachiwiri, funso la ufulu wachidziwitso - pali mayiko angapo omwe akutukuka kumene, motsogozedwa ndi India ndi South Africa, omwe akukakamira kuyimitsidwa kwa ufulu wa katundu pokhudzana ndi Covid-Katemera wa 19 wopangitsa kuti katemera athe kupezeka m'maiko ambiri padziko lapansi; ndipo pomalizira pake, mfundo yakuti mayiko olemera agula kale pafupifupi ambiri - ndikuganiza 46% - ya mlingo wa katemera, kusiya ambiri padziko lapansi kuyembekezera kulandira katemerayu zaka zingapo kuchokera pano. Kotero, kodi mungalankhule za zina mwazinthu, zovuta zina, zomwe kusowa kwa mwayi kumeneku kungabweretse, osati kwa anthu padziko lonse lapansi kunja kwa maiko olemera okha, komanso maiko olemera, ngati anthu ochuluka chotere achita. Simukulandira katemera?
ED YATALI: Inde. Chifukwa chake, kunena zomveka, ichi sichinthu chomwe ine ndinanenapo, kotero sindikufuna kusokera kunja komwe ndikudziwa. Mnzanga Sarah Zhang walemba zodalirika za katemera ndi zovuta zina zomwe zikupita patsogolo.
Zomwe ndinganene ndikuti mliri, mwachiwonekere, ndi nkhani yapadziko lonse lapansi, ndipo mayiko sangathe kulimbana nawo okha. America ili pamalo odabwitsa pano, chifukwa idalephera kuyankha pa katemerayu ndipo ili pamavuto akulu kuposa malo ena ambiri padziko lapansi omwe ali ndi zinthu zochepa. Koma, mukudziwa, chikhalidwe choyesera kuthandiza dziko lonse lapansi ndikukhala m'gulu lapadziko lonse lapansi chidakalipo. Pali mapangano ndi mgwirizano womwe umapangidwira kuti awonetsetse kuti katemera agawika padziko lonse lapansi kuti mliriwu uwongolere padziko lonse lapansi, pomvetsetsa kuti ngati dziko lililonse lili pachiwopsezo, dziko lililonse limakhala pachiwopsezo. United States ikuyenera, ndikhulupilira, m'tsogolomu, muulamuliro womwe ukubwera, ulembetse ku mgwirizanowu ndikukhala gawo lawo pagulu lapadziko lonse lapansi. Koma pamafunikanso kudzichepetsa kwakukulu apa. Mukudziwa, apita masiku omwe ndi wosewera wamkulu yemwe amapereka chithandizo ndi upangiri ndi ukatswiri kudziko lonse lapansi. US ili pamalo pomwe ili ndi zambiri zoti iphunzire kuchokera kumayiko ena monga ikuyenera kuphunzitsa.
Ndiwonjeza kuti, inde, mavuto ogawa katemera ndikugawa moyenera ku US komanso mokulirapo ndiakulu. Ndipo akutanthauza kuti katemerayu, akavomerezedwa, zomwe mwachiyembekezo sizitenga nthawi yayitali, sikukhala kutha kwa mliriwu. Sizikhala nkhani yosinthira magetsi ndikubwezeretsa dziko la 2019 lomwe takhala tikulakalaka. Ikhala njira yapang'onopang'ono yotulutsa pang'onopang'ono Mlingo kuzungulira dziko lonse lapansi ndi padziko lonse lapansi, kukulitsa chitetezo chamthupi pang'onopang'ono ndikupangitsa kuti chinthuchi chiziwongolera.
Mapeto akuwonekera. Tili ndi mathero. Koma ikhala nthawi yayitali, ndipo tingoyamba ntchitoyi posachedwa. Ndipo panthawiyo, tidzafunikabe njira zonse zaumoyo za anthu zomwe sizinali zokwanira mpaka pano. Tikufunika kuyezetsa. Tiyenera kupeza njira zoyezetsa matenda mwachangu, zomwe zingapangitse kusiyana kwakukulu pothana ndi mliriwu. Tifunika kufufuza anthu omwe ali nawo. Tidzafunika njira zothandizira anthu, monga tchuthi cholipirira chodwala. Tidzafunika kulankhulana momveka bwino kuchokera kwa anthu omwe ali ndi udindo. Ndipo tidzafunika mtunda wotalikirapo kwa miyezi ingapo ikubwerayi, kuti tipewe kugwa kwa mitundu yazaumoyo yomwe tikukumana nayo pakali pano.
NERMEEN SHAIKH: Tisanamalize, ndikufuna ndikufunseni za zomwe mudalemba mu Okutobala Chidutswa, kutanthauza kuti aliyense amene adzapambana chisankho - kotero, tikudziwa tsopano, utsogoleri wa Biden-Harris - mwinamwake adzayenera kuthana ndi mliri wina waukulu panthawi yomwe ali paudindo. Kodi mungafotokoze chifukwa chake mukuganiza kuti zili choncho?
ED YATALI: Chifukwa chakuti zakhala zikuchitika kwa maulamuliro aliwonse m'mbiri yaposachedwapa. Chifukwa chake, tengani Barack Obama. M'mawu ake awiri, adayenera kuthana nawo MERS, coronavirus ina, mliri wa chimfine wa H1N1. Anayenera kuthana ndi Zika, ndipo adayenera kuthana ndi mliri waukulu wa Ebola womwe unachitika ku West Africa. Tsopano, zachidziwikire, si miliri yonseyi yomwe idagunda ku US, koma ambiri aiwo adatero. Ndipo mliri wapano ukuwonetsa momwe matenda atsopano angakhudzire dziko lonse lapansi mosavuta.
Tikukhala m'nthawi ya miliri, pomwe ma virus atsopano amatuluka nthawi zonse, pomwe adani akale akutuluka - akuyambiranso kutiwopsezanso. Ndipo ili si vuto, kotero, kuti tingayembekezere kuchoka pa nthawi iliyonse, pa nthawi iliyonse posachedwapa. Omwe aife tili ndi mwayi wopulumuka Covid-19 miliri ikhala ndi miliri yambiri m'moyo wathu, miliri yochulukirapo yomwe tiyenera kuda nkhawa nayo.
Ndipo sindingathe kunena mopambanitsa kufunika kwa izi. Ndinalemba a Chidutswa in Atlantic mu 2018 za kufunika kokonzekera miliri komanso kuti US sinakonzekere mokwanira. Ndipo yang'anani pozungulira inu. Mwachionekere, zimenezo zinali choncho. Ndipo ndikunena kwa inu tsopano kuti tikadali ndi mabowo oti tikonze. Tili ndi mipata pakukonzekera kwathu. Tawona momwe zipatala zathu zikuchulukirachulukira, momwe machitidwe athu azaumoyo alili ochepa, momwe ndende ndi nyumba zosungira anthu okalamba ndi malo osungira nyama zingakhalire, momwe nyumba zathu zambiri zilili zopanda mpweya wabwino, kusalungama komwe kwakhala kwanthawi yayitali bwanji. dzikolo kwazaka zambiri ndi zomwe zapangitsa kuti anthu amitundu, azikhalidwe, anthu olumala komanso okalamba akhudzidwe mopanda malire ndi kachilomboka. Tili ndi zambiri zoti tikonze mliri waukulu wotsatira usanatigwere.
AMY GOODMAN: Mkonzi, ngati muli ndi chakudya chamadzulo cha banja lalikulu la Thanksgiving, kodi mungayembekezere maliro ang'onoang'ono a Khrisimasi?
ED YATALI: Ndingakonde ngati mulibe chakudya chamadzulo chabanja chachikulu nkomwe. Taonani, ndikudziwa kuti tikufunadi kuwona mabanja athu. Ndikulakalaka banja langa. Ndakusowa anzanga. Sindinawone ambiri a iwo kuyambira chiyambi cha chaka, ndipo ngakhale motalika kuposa pamenepo. Koma ngati mungasonkhane m'nyumba, ngati mibadwo ingapo imasonkhana m'nyumba, kuyankhula mokweza, kwa masiku omaliza, molumikizana, popanda masks, ndiye mikhalidwe yabwino yofalira coronavirus iyi. Ndipo monga ndidanenera, anthu ambiri omwe atenga kachilombo ku Thanksgiving athamangira mzipatala mkati mwa Disembala, mwina osapeza antchito kapena mabedi omwe ali nawo, ndipo adzakhala ali m'mitembo pofika Khrisimasi. Umu ndi momwe kachilomboka kamachitira. Zimagwira ntchito m'njira yodziwikiratu yomwe takhala tikuiona chaka chonse.
Ngati mungathe, yesani kukhala otetezeka. Ndipo ngati mungathe, yesani kungosiya mapulani anu. Ngati tidapita kukakhala ndi Thanksgiving yabwino mu 2021, yomwe tikuyenera kutero chifukwa cha kayendetsedwe kabwino komanso chifukwa cha katemera, ndiye kuti tiyenera kupanga zisankho zoyenera chaka chino. Simukufuna kukhala patebulo lakuthokoza mu 2021 ndikuyang'ana pampando wopanda kanthu kuchokera kwa munthu yemwe mudamutaya kutengera zisankho zoyipa chaka chino.
AMY GOODMAN: Ed Yong, zikomo kwambiri chifukwa chokhala nafe. Tikulumikizani ndi zanu zonse zidutswa at Atlantic, zanu zaposachedwa Chidutswa, โโPalibe Amene Amatimvera.โโ
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