Raws li Thawj Tswj Hwm Obama tau hais lus rau Democratic National Convention nag hmo, cov neeg sawv cev tau tuav cov cim tsis lees paub txog kev lag luam loj heev hu ua Trans-Pacific Partnership. Obama tau raug thawb los ntawm TPP, uas suav nrog 12 lub tebchaws Pacific Rim, suav nrog Tebchaws Meskas, thiab 40 feem pua โโโโntawm lub ntiaj teb kev lag luam. Ob leeg Hillary Clinton thiab Donald Trump tau tawm tsam qhov kev pom zoo thaum muaj kev tawm tsam pej xeem los ntawm cov neeg uas hais tias nws tau txais txiaj ntsig rau cov tuam txhab ntawm kev siv nyiaj rau kev noj qab haus huv thiab ib puag ncig cov cai. Lub lim tiam no, Virginia Tus Thawj Kav Tebchaws Terry McAuliffe hais rau Politico tias nws ntseeg tias Hillary Clinton yuav txhawb nqa TPP yog nws raug xaiv los ua tus thawj tswj hwm. Daim ntawv cog lus ua lag luam yuav yog ib qho ntawm cov teeb meem kev lag luam tseem ceeb uas tus thawj tswj hwm tuaj yuav tau hais. Lwm qhov muaj xws li qhov tsis muaj qhov tsis sib xws, ua rau cov tub ntxhais kawm cov nuj nqis thiab kev hloov pauv nyiaj txiag. Peb tham nrog Joseph Stiglitz, Nobel Prize-winning economist, Columbia University tus xibfwb thiab tus kws tshaj lij nyiaj txiag rau Roosevelt Institute.
AMY GOODMAN: Peb nyob ntawm no hauv Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, suav nrog Democratic National Convention, sab hauv thiab tawm, los ntawm txoj kev mus rau cov koom haum suites mus rau pem teb rooj sab laj. Peb tig tam sim no, tam sim no, los tham txog cov kev cai nyiaj txiag uas tau muab tso tseg. Peb tau koom nrog Joe Stiglitz, uas yog tus kws paub txog nyiaj txiag tau txais txiaj ntsig Nobel, los tham txog - zoo, cia peb mus ua ntej rau cov neeg sawv cev uas tau tuav daim chij hais tias "TPP tua kev ywj pheej. " Ntau pua ntawm lwm tus tau tuav cov cim qhia txog kev lag luam loj hlob hu ua Trans-Pacific Partnership. Thawj Tswj Hwm Obama tau thawb los ntawm qhov kev pom zoo, uas suav nrog 12 lub tebchaws Pacific Rim, suav nrog Asmeskas, 40 feem pua โโโโntawm kev lag luam hauv ntiaj teb.
Ob leeg Hillary Clinton thiab Donald Trump tau tawm tsam qhov kev pom zoo thaum muaj kev tawm tsam pej xeem los ntawm cov neeg uas hais tias nws tau txais txiaj ntsig rau cov tuam txhab ntawm kev siv nyiaj rau kev noj qab haus huv thiab ib puag ncig cov cai. Tab sis ua ntej lub lim tiam no, Virginia Tus Thawj Kav Tebchaws Terry McAuliffe tau hais Politico Nws ntseeg tias Hillary Clinton yuav txhawb nqa TPP, yog tias nws raug xaiv los ua tus thawj tswj hwm. Nws yog ib tug phooj ywg ze ntawm Clintons. Thaum nug los ntawm Politico Yog tias Clinton yuav hloov nws txoj haujlwm thiab txhawb nqa qhov kev pom zoo, yog tias raug xaiv, McAuliffe tau hais, hais, "Yog lawm. Mloog, nws tau txhawb nws. Muaj qee yam tshwj xeeb hauv nws nws xav tau kho, "unquote. Hais lus rau NBC Hnub Wednesday, McAuliffe tau qhia meej txog nws txoj haujlwm.
OV. TERRY McAULIFFE: Muaj tej yam hauv daim ntawv cog lus nws tsis pom zoo nrog. Tshwj tsis yog nws tuaj yeem tau txais cov ntawd mus rau qhov uas nws zoo siab nrog nws, nws yuav tsis txhawb nws, yooj yim thiab yooj yim. Nov yog yam Senator Kaine hais rau lwm hnub; nws hais tib yam nkaus. Yog tias nws tsis tuaj yeem tau txais cov khoom uas nws xav tau hloov, ces nws yuav tsis txhawb nqa.
AMY GOODMAN: Ib qho kev txhawj xeeb loj nyob ib puag ncig TPP yog nws qhov kev cia siab yuav cuam tshuam rau tus nqi ntawm cov tshuaj cawm txoj sia. Qhov no yog California tus neeg sawv cev Alex White, uas tau koom nrog kev tawm tsam ntawm lub rooj sib tham hauv pem teb hnub Wednesday.
ALEX DAWB: Thaum Lub Kaum Hli, thaum cov ntawv sau tag nrho tso tawm thiab nws tau paub rau cov pej xeem tias muaj kab lus tuag nyob hauv nws, qhov ntawd yuav txhais tau tias cov tuam txhab tshuaj yuav muaj 20 xyoo monopoly ntawm cov tshuaj, uas yuav ua rau ib qho tshuaj rau. tus nqi nyob qhov twg ntawm $50,000 thiab $100,000 ib xyoos. Kuv tus poj niam tau kuaj pom tias muaj mob ntsws cancer tsis tshua muaj peb xyoos dhau los, thiab dhau los ntawm peb-Kuv yuav tsum ua rau nws thiab txhua tus neeg uas kuaj mob qog noj ntshav. Kuv txhais tau tias, yog vim li casโKuv tsis xav hais tias muaj kev saib tsis taus Thawj Tswj Hwm Obama, tab sis kuv yuav tsum tauโKuv yuav tsum sawv ntsug rau cov neeg uas kuaj mob cancer. Thaum lawv sib ntaus sib tua rau lawv lub neej, lawv yuav tsum tsis txhob tawm tsam kom them lawv cov tshuaj.
AMY GOODMAN: Daim ntawv cog lus ua lag luam, lub TPP, yuav yog ib qho ntawm cov teeb meem kev lag luam tseem ceeb uas tus thawj tswj hwm tuaj yuav tau hais. Lwm qhov muaj xws li qhov tsis tau pom dua ntawm qhov tsis sib xws, nce cov tub ntxhais kawm cov nuj nqis, kev hloov pauv nyiaj txiag.
Yog xav paub ntxiv, peb tau koom nrog Joe Stiglitz, Nobel Prize-winning economist, Columbia University tus xibfwb, tus kws tshaj lij nyiaj txiag rau Roosevelt Institute, tus sau phau ntawv ntau heev. Nws qhov tseeb yog Lub Euro: Yuav ua li cas ib qho txiaj ntsig cuam tshuam rau yav tom ntej ntawm Tebchaws Europe. Nws yuav tawm lub hli tom ntej.
Txais tos rov qab Kev ywj pheej tam sim no!, Joe Stiglitz.
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Zoo siab tau nyob ntawm no.
AMY GOODMAN: Zoo siab tau muaj koj nrog peb. Yog li, koj paub, kuv tau nyob ntawd hauv pem teb rooj sab laj nag hmo, txhua hnub, ntau pua tus neeg tawm tsam.TPP kos npe. Koj qhia Hillary Clinton. Dab tsi yog nws txoj hauj lwm ntawm lub TPP?
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Nws tawm tsam nws. Thiab nws tawm tsam kev coj nws mus rau kev pov npav hauv kev sib tham ceg tawv-duck, uas tau liam tias yog ib feem ntawm Obama lub tswv yim, koj paub, tias lawv yuav tsis nthuav tawm rau Congress kom txog thaum lawv - lub tswv yim tsis ua kom txog thaum tus ceg tawv. Txhua leej txhua tus tau tawm tsam tus ceg tawv-duck. Thiab yog li ntawd, kuv xav tias nws tuag rau Obama cov thawj coj.
AMY GOODMAN: Thiab qhov ntawd yuav txhais li cas rau tus thawj tswj hwm tom ntej?
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Kuv xav tias nws ua kom pom tseeb tias yog tias muaj puas tau muaj TPP, nws yuav tsum tau renegotiated tag nrho. Thiab qhov nthuav yog, Kuv tau tham nrog qee tus ntawm peb cov neeg ua lag luam, lawv yuav zoo siab txais tos. Qee qhov kev pabcuam phem tshaj plaws hauv qhov ntawd tsis yog vim peb cov neeg koom tes thov nws, nws yog vim peb xav tau. Thaum kuv hais tias "peb," nws yog kev txaus siab rau cov tuam txhab uas, hmoov tsis, tau sawv cev hauv kev sib tham, tsis yog peb cov neeg Asmeskas. Thiab, koj paub, rau kuv, kuv yog tus neeg sib tw thaum ntxov TPP. Thiab nws zoo siab heev uas pom tias qhov teeb meem uas kuv xav tias yuav tsis raug tsa - koj paub, kuv xav tias nws - thiab kuv xav tias Obama lub tswv yim yog sim thawb nws mus txog thaum tsis muaj leej twg tab tom saib - pom tias tam sim no tau dhau los ua lub ntsiab lus tseem ceeb. qhov teeb meem. Yog li, rau kuv, qhov no yog qhov yeej tiag tiag rau kev ywj pheej.
AMY GOODMAN: Tam sim no, koj tau hais tias koj yog tus neeg sib tw thaum ntxov. Tus neeg koj qhia, Hillary Clinton, tsis yog tus neeg sib tw thaum ntxov. Nws hais tias nws yog tus qauv kub, kuv xav tias yog nws lub sijhawm, rau kev cog lus ua lag luam. Nws tau raug kev nyuaj siab heev los ntawm, kuv xav tias, dab tsi ua rau Clinton juggernaut xav tsis thoob, thiab qhov ntawd yog qhov muaj koob npe nrov ntawm Bernie Sanders, txawm tias nws tsis muaj ntau lub tuam txhab xov xwm nthuav dav ntawm nws cov kev xav, zoo li Donald Trump ua, thiab nws pom. nws yuav tsum hloov. Kuv txhais tau tias, koj pom nws nyob hauv pem teb txhua hnub ntawm lub rooj sib txoos.
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Yog, kuv xav tias yog lawm, tab sis nws yog ntau tshaj qhov ntawd. Kuv txhais tau tias, raws li tib neeg pib saib qhov tshwm sim los ntawm kev sib tham - nco ntsoov, nws yog txhua yam zais cia. Qhov peb-txhua yam peb tsuas tuaj yeem txiav txim siab yog dab tsi tawm los ntawm kev xau, uas tau dhau los ua qhov tseeb zoo kawg. Koj paub, cov xau feem ntau muab qee cov ntaub ntawv uas, rau qhov laj thawj zoo, Obama cov thawj coj tsis xav tau. Thiab raws li lwm tus tau saib ntawm qhov kev pom zoo - txawm tias tsoomfwv Meskas tau kwv yees qhov twg yuav muaj txiaj ntsig kev lag luam. Koj paub, yuav ua li cas - dab tsi yuav muaj txiaj ntsig rau GDP? Tsis tsim nyog. Kev tshawb fawb sab nraud, zoo li ntawm Tufts University, tau hais tias nws yuav ua rau peb txo qis GDP. Yog li, cov txiaj ntsig, raws li qhov kev pom zoo tau tawm hauv qhov qhib, tau pom meej meej - tau pom qhov tsis zoo. Thiab tus nqi - koj hais, koj paub, tus nqi ntawm kev nkag mus rau cov tshuaj, tus nqi ntawm cov tshuaj. Thiab, rau kuv, qhov tseem ceeb tshaj plaws, lub dampener ntawm kev cai, dab tsi yog hu ua ISDS kev muab, daim ntawv cog lus peev, uas yog cov kev cai uas Elizabeth Warren tau nailed tiag tiag TPP ntawm, thiab nws yog kiag li txoj cai.
AMY GOODMAN: Yog li, dab tsi ua rau koj paub tseeb tias Hillary Clinton txoj kev stance yog dab tsi? Nws xaiv nws tus khub khiav, Timothy Kaine. Thiab Tim Kaine, tus senator ntawm Virginia, kuv xav tias thaum ntxov-txog hnub Thursday, tau hu xov tooj rau TPP, tab sis tom qab ntawd xaiv, muab cov huab cua, koj paub, hais tias nws tawm tsam nws. Koj muaj McAuliffe, tus tswv xeev ntawm Virginia, ze heev rau Clintons, uas hais tias nws yog rau nws. Koj paub dab tsi nws tsis paub?
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Zoo, kuv xav tias ib feem ntawm qhov no yog lub platform Democratic, uas yog kev cog lus ntawm Democratic Party, tau tawm los nrog cov txheej txheem uas txhua qhov kev pom zoo ua lag luam, tam sim no lossis yav dhau los, yuav tsum txaus siab rau nws. Thiab yog tias koj saib cov ntsiab cai no, cov TPP, nyob rau hauv nws daim ntawv tam sim no, tsis txaus siab rau nws. NAFTA tsis txaus siab. Yog li, rau kuv, txawm tias lawv tsis tau qhia meej-
AMY GOODMAN: Tab sis, kuv txhais tau tias, qhov ntawd yog - ntau qhov tshwj xeeb tshaj yog Bernie cov neeg sawv cev ntawm pawg thawj coj saib xyuas lub platform tau thawb nyuaj rau tsis muaj TPP, thiab Clinton phiaj los nqis tes thawb rov qab nyuaj heev, thiab nws yeej.
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Yog lawm. Tab sis, rau kuv, kuv nkag siab qhov ntawd yog lawv tsis xav ua rau Thawj Tswj Hwm Obama txaj muag. Tab sis koj nyeem cov hauv paus ntsiab lus, qhov kev pom zoo ua lag luam yuav tsum ua kom txaus siab, thiab nws yog qhov pom tseeb zoo li ntawd TPP tsis txaus siab, NAFTA tsis txaus siab. Yog li, kuv txhais lus, nws yog kev cog lus ntawm Hillary, tom ntej no Democratic tswj hwm, rov sib tham dua NAFTA thiab rov sib tham dua TPP. Qhov nthuav yog, dua, kuv tau tham nrog qee qhov ntawm peb cov neeg koom tes hauv kev lag luam NAFTA, nyob rau hauv TPP, thiab lawv yuav txais tos qhov ntawd. Yog li, nws yog qhov qhib qhov rooj.
AMY GOODMAN: Hillary Clinton hais li cas rau koj?
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Zoo, kuv tsis tau tham nrog nws tshwj xeeb txog qhov no, tab sis kuv tau tham nrog pawg tswj hwm ntawm nws, thiab kuv xav tias lawv paub zoo tias vim li cas thiaj li muaj kev sib ntaus sib tua, qhov twg TPP mus yuam kev. Thiab qhov ntawd, kuv xav tias, yog kev hu xovtooj. Koj paub, muaj cov tswv yim zoo li no uas muaj zog heev - koj paub, kev lag luam yog dab tsi txhawb kev loj hlob, peb nyiam kev loj hlob, peb xav tsim txoj haujlwm, koj paub, txhua yam ntawd. Thiab tam sim no koj pom qhov kev pom zoo thiab koj saib qhov kev tshawb fawb hais, tsis muaj GDP tawm ntawm no.
AMY GOODMAN: Clinton txoj kev xaiv Kaine qhia koj li cas?
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Zoo, kuv xav tias nws yog - nws tab tom nrhiav rau ib tus neeg uas muab nws txoj kev ntseeg siab nrog nruab nrab. Thiab nws tau sim txiav txim siab nom tswv txog qhov twg yog txoj hauv kev zoo tshaj plaws los yeej qhov kev xaiv tsa, vim hais tias, cia kuv hais, Kuv ntseeg tsis meej tias muaj ib qho teeb meem loj ntawm no. Qhov kev puas tsuaj uas Trump yuav ua rau peb lub neej, yog tias nws raug xaiv, yog qhov loj heev.
AMY GOODMAN: Yuav ua li cas?
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Txhua qhov chaw los ntawm kev ntxub ntxaug rau nws txoj cai nyiaj txiag. Yog li, rau kuv, tsis muaj kev xaiv. Koj paub, nws yog qhov tseem ceeb tiag tiag uas Democratic - koj paub, Hillary yeej. Thiab tom qab ntawd, yog tias kuv nyob hauv ib txoj haujlwm, lo lus nug yog: Tus lwm thawj coj zoo tshaj plaws los yeej yog dab tsi, ua raws li kuv tus nqi? Koj paub, thiab tus lwm-
AMY GOODMAN: Tim Kaine puas yog koj xaiv?
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Muaj qee tus neeg sib tw uas kuv yuav tau saib. Muaj ib qho tseem ceeb uas, koj paub, thaum kuv - thaum koj pib ua qhov kev suav, qee tus neeg sib tw zoo tshaj plaws yog cov senators los ntawm cov xeev uas muaj Republican tus tswv xeev. Thiab yog tias koj xaiv tus Democratic senator, Republican tus tswv xeev tuaj yeem tso tus senator tom ntej hauv kab. Thiab tuav lub Senate rau cov Democrats yog qhov tseem ceeb tshaj plaws, tseem ceeb rau Tsev Hais Plaub Siab, yog ib qho teeb meem loj tiag tiag uas peb lub teb chaws ntsib. Yog li, kuv twv qhov kuv yuav hais yog, cov no yog cov kev lag luam nyuaj heev, kev txiav txim siab. Koj paub, qhov zoo yog tias hauv Virginia, kuv xav tias Kaine yuav raug hloov los ntawm lwm tus Democratic senator, yog li ntawd yuav tsis muaj qhov tsis zoo. Muaj ntau lwm yam - zoo, kuv tau ntsib nrog Kaine. Kuv nkag siab tias yog vim li cas nws thiaj yuav muaj kev ntseeg siab rau nws. Thiab kuv vam tias nws yuav hloov nws txoj haujlwm TPP. Pom tseeb, yog tias nws yuav txhawb nqa lub platform Democratic, nws yuav tsum hloov pauv.
AMY GOODMAN: Kev txhawb nqa ceev ceev, muab Thawj Tswj Hwm Obama txoj kev ceev nrawm rau kev thawb mus TPP.
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Kuv xav tias qhov ntawd yog txoj haujlwm tsis raug. Tab sis qhov tseeb tias -
AMY GOODMAN: Kuj koom nrog ntau tus neeg sawv cev hauv kev sib ntaus sib tua ntawm cov tsev txhab nyiaj loj hauv cheeb tsam, qhov no tsuas yog ob peb lub lis piam dhau los.
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Thiab ib zaug ntxiv, qhov teeb meem yog, thaum koj koom nrog Democratic platform, kuv xav tias nws tau cog lus los txhawb kev ywj pheej platform. Thiabโ
AMY GOODMAN: Peb tab tom tham nrog Nobel Prize-winning economist Joe Stiglitz. Peb mam li rov qab nrog nws hauv ib feeb.
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AMY GOODMAN: "Lub Ntiaj Teb Xav Tau Tam Sim No yog Kev Hlub," uas tau hu los ntawm ntau dua 40 tus neeg hu nkauj Broadway nag hmo ntawm Democratic National Convention hauv Philadelphia. Yog, qhov no yog Kev ywj pheej tam sim no!, Democratnow.org. Peb yog โRaam Nrog Cov Lus Cog Tseg: Tsov Rog, Kev Thaj Yeeb thiab Thawj Tswj Hwm.โ Kuv yog Amy Goodman, tshaj tawm los ntawm DNC ntawm no hauv Philadelphia. Peb tab tom tham nrog Hillary Clinton tus kws pab tswv yim Joseph Stiglitz, Nobel Prize-winning economist, Columbia University xibfwb. Kuv xav nug txog seb Bernie Sanders tau cuam tshuam li cas rau Clinton txoj cai kev lag luam, tab sis tig mus rau Thawj Tswj Hwm Obama, uas tau hais txog Vermont senator, yav dhau los tus thawj tswj hwm tus neeg sib tw, nag hmo.
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: Yog li, yog tias koj pom zoo tias muaj kev tsis sib xws hauv peb txoj kev lag luam thiab nyiaj ntau dhau hauv peb txoj kev nom kev tswv, peb txhua tus yuav tsum tau hais lus thiab ua kom muaj kev sib koom ua ke thiab tsis tu ncua raws li Bernie Sanders cov neeg txhawb nqa tau ua thaum lub sijhawm xaiv tsa no. Peb txhua tus yuav tsum tau tawm thiab pov npav rau Democrats nce thiab nqis daim pib, thiab tom qab ntawd tuav lawv lub luag haujlwm kom txog thaum lawv ua tiav. Yog lawm. Txaus siab rau Bern.
AMY GOODMAN: Wow, yog li ntawd koj muaj Thawj Tswj Hwm Obama hais tias "Xav txog Bern," Joe Stiglitz. Kuv xav tias qhov ntawd yog ib yam uas nws yeej xav tau.
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: kuv xav tias yog lawm. Thiab kuv xav tias qhov kev txav mus los, raws li qhov tseeb Sanders tau tham txog nws, yog ib qho tseem ceeb heev, thiab tuav cov neeg xaiv tsa muaj lub luag haujlwm. Koj paub, cov neeg Sanders tau muaj kev cuam tshuam rau ntawm Democratic platform, kiag li. Thiab tam sim no, peb yuav tsum tuav cov neeg ntawd, suav nrog Hillary thiab Kaine. Peb yuav tsum tuav lawv lub luag haujlwm, kom lawv tau thawb rau cov txheej txheem ntawd.
AMY GOODMAN: Koj qhia Hillary Clinton. Txoj hauv kev zoo tshaj los tuav nws lub luag haujlwm yog dab tsi? Txij li thaum koj tsis pom zoo rau ntau qhov teeb meem, nws teb li cas?
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Zoo, kuv xav tias, ib nrab, nws yog ib txoj cai wonk. Thiab yog li ntawd, nws teb rau cov lus sib cav. Thiab, koj paub, ob peb xyoos dhau los, kuv tau sim ua kom muaj kev sib cav txog vim li cas TPP yog phem, tsis tsuas yog nyob rau hauv cov nqe lus ntawm kev lag luam teeb meem, lub GDP, tab sis nkag mus rau kev noj qab haus huv, kev cai. Kuv twb tau sim hais tias nws tsis yog ib qho teeb meem ntawm kev cuam tshuam nrog cov duab ntxoov ntxoo banking system. Nws tsis yog ib qho teeb meem ntawm kev cuam tshuam nrog lub tsev txhab nyiaj "loj dhau los ua tsis tiav", qhov loj dhau los tswj, qhov loj dhau - peb yuav tsum ua ob qho tib si. Yog li, nws tsis yog - koj paub, Sanders tau ua ib txoj haujlwm. Hillary coj lwm tus. Kuv qhov kev xav tau, saib, cov tsev txhab nyiaj no tau ua kev puas tsuaj ntau rau peb kev lag luam, ob qho tib si ntawm 2008 ntsoog, tab sis kuj nce kev tsis sib xws thiab hloov qhov kev tsom mus rau lub sijhawm luv luv. Thiab qhov ntawd yog ib qho ntawm cov cheeb tsam uas nws tau khaws tau zoo heev hauv ob peb cov lus hais muaj zog heev txog kev phom sij ntawm kev tsis txaus ntseeg, hom kev cai uas tau coj mus rau qhov zoo li lub sijhawm luv luv. Koj paub, kuv tau tso rau hauv ib phau ntawv uas peb tau ua rau Roosevelt hu ua Rewriting Txoj Cai, qhia yuav ua li cas, pib nrog Reagan tswj hwm, peb rov sau cov cai ntawm Asmeskas kev lag luam los txhawb kev tsis sib xws thiab luv luv, thiab koj yuav tsum ua dab tsi-
AMY GOODMAN: Dab tsi feem ntau ua rau Asmeskas kev lag luam puas tsuaj, koj puas ntseeg, thiab tsim, tsim qhov tsis sib xws?
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Ib qho tseem ceeb tshaj plaws, tej zaum, nyob rau hauv-qhov kev tshwm sim tshaj plaws yog pom tseeb tias muaj kev kub ntxhov xyoo 2008, uas cuam tshuam nrog kev lag luam nyiaj txiag. Tab sis ib qho ntawm cov khoom uas kuv tau hais txog hauv kuv txoj haujlwm thiab hauv Rewriting Txoj Cai yog tias tsis muaj ib qho kev ntsuas. Nws yog tsub zuj zuj ntawm yam tom qab qhov khoom. Nws yog qhov tsis muaj kev koom nrog, suav nrog African Asmeskas, suav nrog cov poj niam, vim tias peb yuav luag tib lub zej zog uas tsis muaj tsev neeg tawm, uas ua rau nws nyuaj rau cov poj niam ua haujlwm. Qhov ntawd yog qhov tseem ceeb - koj paub, peb tsis muaj txoj cai lij choj hais tias koj tsis tuaj yeem cais cov nyiaj ua haujlwm rau cov poj niam. Qhov ntawd yog ib yam uas Hillary tau hais ntau heev. Qhov ntawd ua rau muaj kev tsis sib xws thiab ua rau peb txoj kev lag luam puas tsuaj.
AMY GOODMAN: Kojโ
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Kev kawm, kev nkag mus rau kev kawm.
AMY GOODMAN: Koj sau a daim in saib iav heev Fair "Donald Trump's Biggest Vulnerability." Nws yog dab tsi?
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Qhov kuv hais txog yog qhov nyuaj uas nws yuav muaj txawm tias tau txais Republicans zoo los ua haujlwm, koj paub, tsim kev tswj hwm. Tsis yog ib tug xwb. Kuv txhais tau tias, nws sim hais, thiab qhov no yogโKaine tau hais lus muaj zog heev, thiab nws hais tias, "Ntseeg kuv, kuv yuav ua." Tsoom fwv tsis yog li ntawd. Thiab tsoom fwv kev ywj pheej tshwj xeeb tsis yog li ntawd. Koj yuav tsum muaj ntau pua thiab pua pua tus neeg siv cov cai no. Koj paub, koj muaj ntau lub koom haum. Thiab peb txawv ntawm lwm lub teb chaws, uas tus thawj tswj hwm yuav tsum xaiv tsis yog tus tuav ntaub ntawv nkaus xwb, tus tuav ntaub ntawv, tus tuav ntaub ntawv, tus tuav ntaub ntawv, tus pab tuav ntaub ntawv, - koj paub, ntau zaus, tus tuav ntaub ntawv thib ob. Qhov ntawd yog cov neeg coob coob. Thiab tau txais - koj paub, tsuas yog nyob rau hauv thaj chaw ntawm kev lag luam, tau txais cov neeg ua lag luam zoo, uas yuav ua haujlwm nrog Trump, yuav nyuaj heev.
AMY GOODMAN: Donald Trump tau thov kom tshem tawm cov WTO, Lub Koom Haum Ntiaj Teb Kev Lag Luam-tseem ceeb, cov neeg tawm tsam hauv av, 1999, Sib ntaus sib tua ntawm Seattle, qhov ntawd yog qhov lawv tau hu rau - nyuaj tag nrho. TPP. Cov lus sib xyaw tawm los ntawm Democrats. Koj puas txhawj xeeb txog qhov no? Thiab koj puas xav tias Donald Trump tuaj yeem yeej? Kuv txhais tau tias, kev xaiv tsa qhia, tawm ntawm qhov no, nws ua ntej.
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Nws yeej yeej. Thiab nws tsis yog qhov kev xaiv tsa xwb. Nco ntsoov, Bush tsis tau txais feem ntau ntawm cov pov npav; Gore tau txais ntau qhov pov npav ntau dua li Bush. Tab sis txoj kev uas peb txoj kev xaiv tsa ua haujlwm yog tias koj tuaj yeem dhau los ua tus thawj tswj hwm txawm tias muaj cov neeg pov npav tsawg. Yog li, thaum peb hais tias Trump tuaj yeem ua tus thawj tswj hwm, nws tsis tas yuav yeej feem ntau ntawm cov pov npav. Nws tuaj yeem yeej hauv Electoral College. Yog li, yog, kuv txhawj xeeb heev. Thiab ib yam uas kuv tau sau tsis ntev los no yog, nws twb tau ua kev puas tsuaj loj heev rau Tebchaws Meskas.
AMY GOODMAN: Trump tus thawj coj kev sib tw Paul Manafort tau hais hnub no, "Mr. Trump tau hais tias nws cov se tau raug tshuaj xyuas, thiab nws yuav tsis tso lawv. " Vim li cas qhov ntawd tseem ceeb, Joe Stiglitz?
YAUXEJ STIGLITZ: Auj, nws tseem ceeb vim tias muaj qhov laj thawj zoo vim li cas peb xav tias nws tsis tau ua ncaj ncees txog qhov twg nws muaj nyiaj, nws qhov kev pab nyiaj pub dawb yog dab tsi, lossis nws tau them nyiaj ncaj ncees ntawm nws cov se. Tam sim no, txawm tias lawv tab tom kuaj xyuas, nws tuaj yeem tso cov se uas nws thov. Koj paub, lub IRS tej zaum yuav hais tias, "Koj tsis yog," tab sis koj tseem tuaj yeem hais tias, "Qhov no yog qhov kuv ntseeg tias kuv cov nyiaj tau los. Nov yog qhov kuv ntseeg cov se uas kuv yuav tsum tau them. " Thiab qhov ntawd yuav qhia cov lus tseem ceeb. Koj paub, thaum Mitt Romney tso nws cov se thiab nws paub tseeb tias nws tau khaws nws cov nyiaj hauv Cayman Islands, tsis yog vim tias, Cayman Islands, cov nyiaj loj hlob muaj zog nyob rau hnub ci hauv Cayman Islands, tab sis vim muaj lwm yam laj thawj, uas tau hais. Cov neeg Asmeskas ntau, tias nws tau them qis dua 15 feem pua โโโโntawm nws cov nyiaj tau los. Nws cov se tau npaum li cas los ntawm ib feem ntawm nws cov nyiaj tau los tau ntau, qis dua li tus kws kav dej lossis lwm tus neeg ua haujlwm rau kev ua neej nyob. Ib yam dab tsi tshwm sim uas cov neeg Asmeskas hais tias tsis ncaj ncees. Peb xav paub, Trump puas them nws qhov ncaj ncees? Koj paub, nws tau koom nrog kev coj tsis zoo hauv Trump University, ua rau nws cov neeg ua haujlwm nruj thiab txhua yam kev coj ua phem. Peb xav paub, nws puas yog pej xeem zoo? Puas yog nws them nws cov se ncaj ncees? Yog li kuv xav tias nws tseem ceeb heev. Thiab kuv xav tias nws tseem ceeb heev uas nws tus lwm thawj coj tso nws cov se, thiab.
AMY GOODMAN: Joe Stiglitz, peb yuav tsum tau tawm ntawm nws mus. Hillary adviser, Joe Stiglitz, Nobel Prize-winning economist, Columbia University xib fwb.
ZNetwork tau txais nyiaj tsuas yog los ntawm kev ua siab zoo ntawm nws cov neeg nyeem.
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Pab pawg tswjfwm tau txais kev hu xovtooj vim lawv tsis zoo thiab tsis paub tias lawv tau ua qhov tsis ncaj ncees lawm thiab TPP yuav tsum tau rov sib tham kom ua raws li kev cai ywj pheej tog platform. Auj, thiab NAFTA ib yam nkaus. Yauxej tau sau ib phau ntawv thiab hauv nws nws piav qhia vim li cas thiaj li muaj kev tsis sib xws hauv thaj av thiab nws hais tias nws ib txwm tawm tsam TPP hauv nws daim ntawv tam sim no tsawg kawg. Nws tau tawm tswv yim rau tib neeg vim nws ntse thiab nws yeej ib qho khoom plig Nobel. Obama hais tias xav tias bern thiab Joesph hais tias yog lawm. Nws yog lub tsev txhab nyiaj thiab xyoo 2008 uas feem ntau tsis sib npaug ntawm thaj av, thiab nws tau sau phau ntawv ntawd rau qhov chaw Roosevelt uas hais tias nws yog cov khoom tsub zuj zuj, dhau sijhawm, ntau yam ntxiv rau cov khoom tsis sib xws rau cov neeg. Joseph yog tus Nobel yam. Tus txiv neej ntse heev. Reagan tau hloov cov cai pom meej, pom meej tias nws paub lawv, lossis tej zaum nws yog nws pab pawg tswj hwm, rov qab los thaum Yauxej yog tus thawj coj ntawm lub tuam txhab nyiaj hauv ntiaj teb lossis qee yam, rau cov lus luv luv thiab tsis sib xws. Yauxej xav thim rov qab thiab sib npaug thaj av los ntawm cov tsev txhab nyiaj tsis zoo, thiab cov lus luv luv, kom rov hais dua cov ntawv cog lus pub dawb uas txhua tus neeg txawj ntse, suav nrog Hilary nyem thiab tej zaum nws pab pawg tswj hwm, tau yuam kev, vim luv luv, thiab tau txais. lawv tau ua raws li txoj cai, uas cov koom tes ua lag luam, uas Yauxej txawm hais nrog, zoo siab ua. Hilary's a wonk, ib tug nyuaj ua hauj lwm wonk thiab Yauxej, uas tau yeej khoom plig thiab sau ntawv yog ib tug nyuaj ua hauj lwm economicstic thiab qhia Hils thiab nws pab neeg txoj cai kom ua raws li cov hauv paus ntsiab lus.
Peb zoo siab rau cov neeg tau txais txiaj ntsig zoo, lawv cov phau ntawv, cov lus qhia thiab kev hnav lub peev xwm.
Koj paub thaum cov txiv neej laus hauv suits hla lawv ob txhais ceg thiab lub cuff ntawm lub ris caij thiab koj tau txais ib lub ntsej muag ntawm daim tawv nqaij ntawm sab saum toj ntawm lub thom khwm thiab hauv qab ntawm lub cuffโฆ, uas yog hu ua 'Parkinson'. Thiab peb txhua tus paub tias nws tau ntxim hlub heev, tsis yog peb.
Hilary tej zaum yuav yog ib tug wink, tab sis muaj lwm lo lus rau saum toj no, spelled tib yam tab sis nrog ib tug txawv vowel.
Zoo heev comment James! Yuav ua li cas funny yog tias kev ywj pheej tam sim no! kev xam phaj HRC tus thawj kws tshaj lij kev lag luam los txhawb peb tias nws "tseem ceeb" txoj cai kev lag luam yuav txawv ntawm qhov lawv ib txwm ua thiab yuav yog: viciously neoliberal.