Raws li lub ntiaj teb thiab Tebchaws Meskas tawg cov ntaub ntawv txhua hnub ntawm Covid-19 tus kab mob, Thawj Tswj Hwm Trump thiab Tus Tuav Haujlwm Saib Xyuas Kev Kawm Betsy DeVos txuas ntxiv thawb rau cov tsev kawm ntawv pej xeem kom rov qhib lub caij nplooj zeeg yam tsis muaj phiaj xwm ua raws li CDC cov lus qhia. "Peb yuav tsum ua qhov no kom nyab xeeb," tus kws kho mob xwm txheej ceev Dr. Leana Wen hais. "Peb twb pom dab tsi tshwm sim thaum peb siv shortcuts." Lub caij no, Lub Tsev Dawb tseem tab tom tawm tsam lub teb chaws tus kws tshaj lij kis kab mob, Dr. Anthony Fauci, thiab Wen hais tias, "Kuv ntshai tias lub sijhawm no peb tseem tsis tau pom qhov kawg ntawm tus kabmob kis no."

AMY GOODMAN: Raws li lub ntiaj teb thiab Tebchaws Meskas tawg cov ntaub ntawv txhua hnub ntawm Covid-19 tus kab mob, Thawj Tswj Hwm Trump thiab Tus Tuav Haujlwm Saib Xyuas Kev Kawm Betsy DeVos tau txuas ntxiv thawb rau cov tsev kawm ntawv pej xeem kom rov qhib lub caij nplooj zeeg, txawm tias muaj kev txhawj xeeb los ntawm cov kws qhia ntawv thiab cov neeg saib xyuas kev noj qab haus huv. Lawv kuj tau cog lus tias yuav txiav tawm tsoomfwv cov nyiaj pab rau cov tsev kawm ntawv pej xeem uas tsis rov qhib dua.

DeVos yog tus neeg tawm tswv yim ntev rau kev ua lag luam hauv tsev kawm ntawv pej xeem. Hauv kev xam phaj hnub Sunday, CNN's Dana Bash tau nug DeVos txog Trump cov thawj coj, yuav ua li cas nws tuaj yeem rov qhib tsev kawm ntawv zoo thaum muaj kev sib kis.

Dana bash: Koj yog tus tuav ntaub ntawv ntawm kev kawm. Koj hais kom cov tub ntxhais kawm rov qab mus. Yog li, vim li cas koj thiaj tsis muaj kev taw qhia txog lub tsev kawm ntawv yuav tsum ua li cas, tsuas yog ob peb lub lis piam ua ntej koj xav kom cov tsev kawm ntawv rov qhib dua? Thiab yuav ua li cas yog tias nws ntsib kev sib kis?

KEV KAWM TSWV YIM KEV POM ZOO DEVOS: Koj paub, muaj cov qauv zoo tiag tiag uas tau siv hauv kev lag luam ntiag tug thiab hauv - thiab lwm qhov, nrog rau cov neeg ua haujlwm pem hauv ntej hauv tsev kho mob. Thiab tag nrho cov ntaub ntawv thiab tag nrho cov ntaub ntawv thiab tag nrho cov piv txwv no tuaj yeem raug xa mus -

Dana bash: kuv tsis yog -

KEV KAWM TSWV YIM KEV POM ZOO DEVOS: - los ntawm cov thawj coj hauv tsev kawm, uas muaj - leej twg muaj lub sijhawm -

Dana bash: OK, tab sis kuv tsis hnov ​​ib txoj kev npaj los ntawm Lub Tsev Haujlwm Saib Xyuas Kev Kawm. Koj puas muaj kev npaj-

KEV KAWM TSWV YIM KEV POM ZOO DEVOS: Tab sis - tab sis - txoj kev npaj -

Dana bash: - rau cov menyuam kawm ntawv twg thiab cov tsev kawm ntawv twg yuav tsum ua?

KEV KAWM TSWV YIM KEV POM ZOO DEVOS: Yog li, cov tsev kawm ntawv yuav tsum ua qhov yog hauv av thaum lub sijhawm ntawd rau lawv cov menyuam kawm ntawv thiab rau lawv qhov xwm txheej. Tsis muaj ib txoj hauv kev uas peb tuaj yeem coj los yog yuav tsum coj mus thoob tebchaws. …

Dana bash: Tab sis koj tab tom sib cav, dhau mus, tias lawv yuav tsum ua qhov no hauv ib cheeb tsam, tab sis tib lub sijhawm, raws li tus tuav ntaub ntawv ntawm kev kawm, koj tab tom sim thawb lawv ua ib qho loj-haum-tag nrho txoj hauv kev, uas rov qab mus qhib tsev kawm ntawv. Koj tsis tuaj yeem muaj nws ob txoj hauv kev.

KEV KAWM TSWV YIM KEV POM ZOO DEVOS: Kuv yaum kom txhua lub tsev kawm ntawv yuav tsum - qhib thiab muab lawv cov menyuam kawm ntawv puv sijhawm.

AMY GOODMAN: Democratic Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley ntawm Massachusetts tweeted teb rau DeVos, hais, "koj tsis muaj txoj kev npaj. … Kuv yuav tsis tso siab rau koj saib xyuas tsob ntoo hauv tsev cia kuv tus menyuam nyob ib leeg, ”nws hais.

Qhov no tuaj raws li National Education Association thiab American Federation of Teachers tab tom hu rau Congress kom tau nyiaj ntau dua los pab cov tsev kawm ntawv los yuav cov cuab yeej tiv thaiv tus kheej, nrog rau cov tshuab ua pa tshiab thiab cov cuab yeej tu. Ib tug tshiab txoj kev tshawb no los ntawm Kaiser Family Foundation pom ze li ntawm ib thiab ib nrab lab tus kws qhia ntawv muaj kev pheej hmoo ntawm mob hnyav yog tias kis tau Covid-19. Hauv Arizona, peb tus kws qhia ntawv uas sib koom chav kawm lub caij ntuj sov ntawm lub tsev kawm ntawv tau kis tus kabmob coronavirus rau lub hli tas los. Ib tug ntawm lawv, Kimberley Chavez Lopez Byrd, tuag thaum muaj hnub nyoog 61.

Lub lim tiam dhau los, Trump tau tawm tsam ntawm Lub Chaw Tiv Thaiv Kab Mob thiab Tiv Thaiv, hais tias CDC cov lus qhia txog kev rov qhib tsev kawm muaj kev nyab xeeb yog "nyuaj heev thiab kim heev." Sij hawm tom qab, lub CDC tshaj tawm tias nws yuav hloov kho nws cov lus qhia, uas hu rau kev teem caij tsis txaus ntseeg, kev npaj rooj zaum tshiab los txhawb kev nyob sib nrug deb, siv lub ntsej muag npog thiab kaw qhov chaw hauv zej zog.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Peb cia siab tias feem ntau cov tsev kawm ntawv yuav qhib. Peb tsis xav kom tib neeg hais lus nom tswv los yog ua rau nom tswv. Lawv xav tias yuav zoo rau lawv txoj kev nom kev tswv, yog li ntawd cov tsev kawm ntawv kaw. Tsis muaj txoj kev. Yog li ntawd peb yuav ua rau muaj kev kub ntxhov rau cov thawj coj thiab txhua tus kom qhib tsev kawm ntawv, kom lawv qhib. Thiab nws tseem ceeb heev. Nws tseem ceeb heev rau peb lub tebchaws. Nws tseem ceeb heev rau kev noj qab haus huv ntawm cov tub ntxhais kawm thiab cov niam txiv. Yog li peb tab tom yuav tso siab rau qhib koj lub tsev kawm ntawv thaum lub caij nplooj zeeg.

AMY GOODMAN: Yog xav paub ntxiv txog txhua yam no, peb koom nrog Dr. Leana Wen, tus kws kho mob xwm txheej ceev, tus kws tshaj lij kev noj qab haus huv ntawm George Washington University. Yav dhau los nws tau ua haujlwm ua Baltimore tus kws saib xyuas kev noj qab haus huv. Nws kuj yog ib tug pab sau ntawv rau Lub Washington Post. Nws tsis ntev los no daim tau hais tias "Yog Trump xav rov qhib tsev kawm ntawv, ntawm no yog qhov nws cov thawj coj yuav tsum ua."

Txais tos rov qab Kev ywj pheej tam sim no!, Dr. Wen. Trump yuav tsum ua dab tsi? Trump cov thawj coj tsis ua dab tsi raws li nws xav kom txhua lub tsev kawm ntawv rov qhib thiab tias lawv yuav txiav tsoomfwv cov nyiaj pab rau cov tsev kawm ntawv pej xeem yog tias lawv tsis ua?

DR. LEANA wen: Zoo, qhov no yog qhov: Kuv pom zoo, thiab kuv xav tias txhua tus neeg Asmeskas pom zoo, nrog lub hom phiaj ntawm kev rov qhib tsev kawm ntawv, ib yam li peb yuav pom zoo rau lub hom phiaj ntawm kev rov qhib kev lag luam. Qhov tseem ceeb, txawm li cas los xij, yog peb yuav tsum ua qhov no kom nyab xeeb. Qhov tseeb, peb twb tau pom tias muaj dab tsi tshwm sim thaum peb siv cov shortcuts thiab tawm tsam kev qhia txog kev noj qab haus huv rau pej xeem hauv kev rov qhib dua. Tam sim no peb tab tom pom cov kev nce siab loj no tshwm sim hauv ntau qhov chaw hauv lub tebchaws.

Thiab qhov tseeb, nws yog qhov txawv heev thaum koj hnov ​​​​tias, "Zoo, yog tias peb tsis tuaj yeem ua tau raws li cov lus qhia no, uas yog pov thawj-raws li, cov lus teb yog hloov cov lus qhia." Qhov ntawd tsis yog lawm. Nws yuav tsum yog qhov opposite. Yog tias peb tsis tuaj yeem ua tau raws li cov lus qhia kom rov qhib kev nyab xeeb, peb yuav tsum tau ua haujlwm hnyav kom peb thiaj li ua tau raws li cov lus qhia no thiab ua kom muaj kev nyab xeeb ntawm peb cov tub ntxhais kawm thiab cov kws qhia ntawv thiab cov neeg ua haujlwm thiab lawv tsev neeg. Nws tsis yog rov qab thiab hloov cov lus qhia. Nws yog los ua haujlwm.

Thiab rau koj lub ntsiab lus, ib qho tseem ceeb tshaj plaws uas peb tuaj yeem ua tau tam sim no txhawm rau ua kom muaj kev nyab xeeb rov qhib tsev kawm ntawv thaum lub caij nplooj zeeg yog txo qis tus kabmob coronavirus hauv cov zej zog, vim tias tsis muaj txoj hauv kev uas koj tuaj yeem khaws lub tsev kawm ntawv kom nyab xeeb. tus mob coronavirus yog tias tus kab mob no tawm mus los ntawm kev tswj hwm qhov twg lub tsev kawm ntawv nyob hauv zej zog. Peb muaj ntau qhov chaw ntawm lub tebchaws uas ib ntawm ib puas tus neeg muaj Covid-19. Yog li ntawd, yog tias koj muaj ib lub tsev kawm ntawv ntawm ib txhiab leej, hnub ib, koj yuav muaj 10 tus neeg hauv lub tsev kawm ntawv uas muaj Covid thiab tsis paub tias lawv muaj. Qhov ntawd yog qhov tshwm sim uas yuav tshwm sim rau hnub ib.

Thiab yog li ntawd, peb ua ib haiv neeg yuav tsum xav txog peb qhov tseem ceeb. Yog tias qhov tseem ceeb, yog lub hom phiaj yog rov qhib cov tsev kawm ntawv thaum lub caij nplooj zeeg, tej zaum peb yuav tsum khaws cov khw noj mov thiab cov tsev noj mov thiab hmo ntuj kaw rau lub caij ntuj sov.

AMY GOODMAN: Kuv xav tig mus rau tus thawj coj ntawm cov tsev kawm ntawv rau Fairfax County nyob rau sab qaum teb Virginia, yog ib lub tsev kawm ntawv loj tshaj plaws hauv lub tebchaws. Hauv paus tsev kawm ntawv npaj kom cov tub ntxhais kawm rov qab mus rau tsev kawm ntawv tsuas yog ob hnub hauv ib lub lis piam thiab muaj kev kawm nyob deb ntawm lub lim tiam. Nws piav rau CNN Yuav ua li cas cov tsev kawm ntawv hauv nws cheeb tsam tau npaj rov qhib dua thaum lub caij nplooj zeeg thiab tau tawm tsam los ntawm Betsy DeVos.

TSOS BRAND: Yog li, koj nyob hauv chav kawm tam sim no uas peb tau sib cais cov rooj sib tham ntawm rau taw. Peb yuav muaj PPE rau tag nrho peb cov kws qhia ntawv thiab cov tub ntxhais kawm. Thiab peb tab tom yuav rov mus kawm ntawv thiab ib txwm tshiab. …

Covid tsis cais raws li kev nplua nuj lossis kev txom nyem. Covid hits peb txhua tus. Thiab cov lus qhia rau kev nyob deb ntawm 6-feet tsuas yog txhais tau hais tias koj tsis tuaj yeem tso txhua tus menyuam yaus rov qab mus rau hauv tsev kawm ntawv nrog tus hneev taw square-footage uas twb muaj lawm. Nws yog qhov yooj yim xwb. … Peb yog tus loj ntawm tsib lub Pentagon. Koj yuav xav tau lwm tsib lub Pentagon ntawm qhov chaw kom muaj peev xwm txaus siab rau tag nrho cov tub ntxhais kawm hauv Fairfax County Public Schools.

AMY GOODMAN: Yog li, Dr. Wen, tus thawj coj ntawm Fairfax cov tsev kawm ntawv. Tus Thawj Saib Xyuas Kev Kawm Betsy DeVos tau tawm tsam nws hauv nws lub rooj sib tham xov xwm lub lim tiam dhau los, tawm tsam nws txoj kev npaj. Tham txog qhov nws txhais tau li cas kom rov qhib dua thaum, nce ntxiv, kev sim tsis muaj. Raws li peb pom hauv cov chaw xws li Texas thiab Arizona, tib neeg tos 10 teev ntawm kab kom tau txais kev xeem. Thawj Tswj Hwm Trump tau qhia tias nws xav tau kev sim tsawg dua, vim nws xav tias nws ua rau nws tsis zoo. Yuav ua li cas koj muaj kev noj qab haus huv rau pej xeem kev noj qab haus huv, qhov twg koj tsis tuaj yeem paub tias leej twg mob, thiab tom qab ntawd tib neeg, ib zaug ntxiv, tsis muaj peev xwm nkag mus rau cov cuab yeej tiv thaiv tus kheej?

DR. LEANA wen: Yog lawm. Yog li, kuv tau hais rau cov thawj coj hauv tsev kawm ntawv thiab cov kws qhia ntawv thoob plaws lub tebchaws, uas tau sim lawv qhov zoo tshaj plaws. Kuv txhais tau tias, lawv tab tom ntsuas qee yam tsis txaus ntseeg, suav nrog lawv sim ua raws li CDC cov lus qhia rau kev nyob deb ntawm lub cev thiab rau PPE, rau qhov cua. Lawv tseem tab tom sim coj mus rau hauv tus account cov kev xav tau ntawm cov tub ntxhais kawm uas muaj kev xav tau tshwj xeeb, uas tuaj yeem nyob ntawm lub tsev kawm ntawv noj su thiab tuaj yeem nyob ntawm lub tsev kawm ntawv rau qhov chaw nyab xeeb, suav nrog kev txaus ntshai ntawm kev noj qab haus huv tiag tiag ntawm cov tub ntxhais kawm thiab cov kws qhia ntawv thiab lawv tsev neeg. cov tswv cuab. Lawv sim lawv qhov zoo tshaj plaws.

Thiab tiag tiag, qhov uas Trump cov thawj coj yuav tsum tau ua yog txhawb nqa lawv hauv qhov no, tsis txhob txaj muag lossis hem lawv kom poob nyiaj. Tag nrho cov no, xws li kev hloov tsheb npav, muaj cov tsev kawm ntawv qhib sijhawm sib txawv, sib nrug ntawm cov rooj sib tham, yuav khoom siv tshiab, uas txhua yam yuav raug nqi nyiaj txiag. Thiab peb yeej yuav tsum tau muab tso rau hauv txoj haujlwm thiab muab cov peev txheej los pab cov tsev kawm ntawv rov qhib dua.

Thiab tseem, koj tau hais txog kev sim. Kuv tsis tuaj yeem ntseeg tias tam sim no yog Lub Xya Hli, thiab peb tseem tab tom tham txog qhov xav tau rau lub teb chaws lub tswv yim nyob ib puag ncig kev sim. Thaum peb saib lwm lub teb chaws uas muaj kev vam meej nyob rau hauv suppressing theem ntawm Covid-19, lawv muaj ib yam zoo sib xws, uas yog lawv muaj kev sib koom tes hauv lub tebchaws. Lawv tsis cia li cia cov cheeb tsam sib txawv thiab lub xeev thiab lub nroog sib txawv ntawm lawv tus kheej. Lawv tsis muaj ntau thaj chaw sib tw rau ib leeg rau tej yam xws li lub qhov ncauj qhov ntswg thiab lwm yam PPE.

Thiab kuv kuj tsis tuaj yeem ntseeg tias peb nyob ntawm no dua. Rov qab rau lub Peb Hlis, koj thiab kuv tau tham txog yuav ua li cas cov kws kho mob thiab cov kws saib xyuas neeg mob nyob rau pem hauv ntej tsis muaj lub ntsej muag txaus thiab hnav ris tsho thiab thov kom lawv cov phooj ywg hla kev tshaj xov xwm kom sim tau lub npog ntsej muag ntxiv kom lawv tsis txhob kis kab mob. lawv cov neeg mob. Kuv ntseeg tsis tau tias peb tab tom ntsib qhov xwm txheej ib zaug ntxiv. Thiab qhov no tag nrho los ntawm tsis muaj lub tswv yim hauv tebchaws, thiab kuj, hmoov tsis, muaj qhov tsis meej pem thiab sib xyaw cov lus tawm los ntawm Tsev Dawb, uas tsis yog siv kev tshawb fawb thiab pov thawj los txiav txim siab, lawv tau ua raws li kev xav. thiab kev koom tes. Thiab qhov ntawd muaj - kev nom kev tswv tsis muaj lub luag haujlwm hauv kev teb rau pej xeem kev noj qab haus huv.

AMY GOODMAN: Tom qab ntawd koj muaj Thawj Tswj Hwm Trump nag hmo, rau ib qho ntawm thawj zaug, hnav lub npog ntsej muag rau pej xeem ntawm Walter Reed Tsev Kho Mob. Nws tau hais tias nws tsim nyog hnav hauv tsev kho mob, txawm hais tias yav dhau los nws tsis tau taug kev hauv chav nrog ib pab tub rog tub rog. Thiab tom qab ntawd nws tau pom nrog qee tus ntawm lawv tham nrog daim npog ntsej muag hauv qab nws lub qhov ntswg.

DR. LEANA wen: Yog lawm, kuv txhais tau tias, nws yog lub xeev txawv txawv uas peb nyob hauv, vim tsis muaj cov lus zoo dua, thaum peb tab tom sim qhuas tus thawj tswj hwm lossis ib tus neeg hnav lub npog ntsej muag, uas yog ib yam uas txhua tus kws paub txog kev noj qab haus huv tau qhia, thaum cov pov thawj tau meej meej nyob rau ntawm no, nyob nruab nrab ntawm kev sib kis. Kuv txhais tau tias, qhov ntawd yuav tsum yog lub hauv paus ntawm qhov peb tab tom tham txog.

AMY GOODMAN: Kuv xav mus -

DR. LEANA wen: Kuv txhais tau tias, kuv yuav tsum tau hnov ​​- mm-hmm?

AMY GOODMAN: Hais txog qhov tseem ceeb ntawm kev coj noj coj ua, mus tom ntej, Dr. Wen.

DR. LEANA wen: Tsis yog, kuv xav tias nws tsuas yog ib qho tseem ceeb heev uas tus thawj tswj hwm thiab tag nrho peb cov thawj coj raug xaiv ua qauv zoo rau pej xeem noj qab haus huv, vim hais tias, zoo li nws los yog tsis, muaj ntau lab tus neeg Asmeskas uas tus thawj tswj hwm yog tus xa xov zoo tshaj plaws. Thiab nws yuav tsum ua qauv coj tus cwj pwm uas nws xav kom txhua tus neeg Asmeskas muaj. Thiab ntawm no, uas yog universal daim npog qhov ncauj hnav. Qhov ntawd yog nyob rau 6 feet deb ntawm lwm tus, vim hais tias ntawm lub sijhawm no, nws yog peb tus kheej ua uas yuav ua rau muaj kev sib txawv hauv kev cawm neeg txoj sia.

AMY GOODMAN: Kuv xav mus rau Florida tus tswv xeev, Ron DeSantis, uas tau hais tias cov tsev kawm ntawv yuav tsum rov qhib dua thaum lub caij nplooj zeeg. Qhov no yog tus tswv xeev Florida - Florida, qhov loj tshaj plaws nyob rau ib hnub, loj dua li tag nrho cov kab mob sib kis hauv ntau lub tebchaws ua ke, ntau dua 15,000 nag hmo. Nov yog tus tswv xeev.

OV. Ron DESANTIS: Yog tias koj tuaj yeem ua Lub Tsev Depot, yog tias koj tuaj yeem ua Walmart, yog tias koj tuaj yeem ua cov no, peb tuaj yeem ua cov tsev kawm ntawv. Kuv xav kom peb cov menyuam muaj peev xwm txo tau qhov kev sib txawv ntawm kev kawm ntawv uas kuv xav tias tau tsim. …

Nws yuav tsum tsis txhob muaj teeb meem nom tswv. Nws yuav tsum ua raws li qhov tseeb. Thiab yog tias peb pom tias qhov no muaj kev pheej hmoo tsawg heev thiab peb pom, kuv xav tias, dhau mus, hauv txhua txoj kev tshawb fawb, cov menyuam kawm ntawv tsis yog cov kab mob kis tau zoo…

AMY GOODMAN: Txawm hais tias muaj kev thov los ntawm ntau tus neeg hauv Florida, nws tsis kam kaw qhov rooj lossis daim npog ntsej muag thoob plaws lub xeev. Koj puas tuaj yeem tham txog qhov tseem ceeb ntawm qhov tshwm sim hauv Florida thiab hauv ntiaj teb, hnub loj tshaj plaws tsis yog hauv Florida nkaus xwb, tab sis hauv ntiaj teb nag hmo?

DR. LEANA wen: Yog lawm. Raws li lub teb chaws tam sim no, peb nyob rau hauv txoj haujlwm phem dua li peb tau rov qab rau lub Peb Hlis. Thiab kuv xav tias txaus ntshai hais nws, tab sis qhov no yog qhov tseeb. Rov qab rau lub Peb Hlis, peb pom tus lej ntawm cov xwm txheej tau nce siab, tab sis nws tau tsom mus rau qhov tseem ceeb hauv cheeb tsam New York. Tam sim no peb muaj ntau qhov chaw muaj kab mob sib kis - hauv Florida, Texas, California. Tam sim no peb tab tom pom Carolinas, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia. Kuv txhais tau tias, muaj ntau thaj chaw uas raging tawm ntawm kev tswj. Thiab tsis zoo li rov qab rau lub Peb Hlis, peb tsis muaj chaw nyob hauv qhov kev txiav txim. Peb tsis muaj kev noj qab haus huv nom tswv, raws li peb nyuam qhuav hnov, rau ib yam dab tsi los txog, txawm thov kom cov neeg nyob hauv tsev, zam kev sib sau sab hauv tsev, thaum peb muaj txhua tus xav tau lub qhov ncauj qhov ntswg. Thiab kuv ntshai tias nyob rau lub sijhawm no peb tseem tsis tau pom qhov kawg ntawm tus kabmob kis no, thiab peb muaj kev mob ntau ntxiv thiab kev txom nyem thiab kev tuag los ntawm peb txoj kev.

Thiab tawm tsam qhov teeb meem no, peb tab tom pom cov thawj coj qub no thiab cov thawj coj raug xaiv thov kom cov tsev kawm rov qhib dua. Thiab lawv tab tom siv, Kuv xav tias, qhov tseeb, kev sib cav tsis raug hauv kev ua li ntawd. Cov pov thawj tseem tawm, thiab peb tsis paub tag nrho cov pov thawj, txog seb cov menyuam yaus puas tuaj yeem ua tau zoo li cov kab mob kis tau zoo li cov neeg laus ua. Peb paub tias cov menyuam yaus muaj mob tsawg dua li cov neeg laus, txawm tias qee tus menyuam yaus mob hnyav, thiab qee tus menyuam yaus tuag.

Thiab cov kev tshawb fawb uas tam sim no tau ua tiav, peb tab tom saib cov piv txwv los ntawm lwm lub tebchaws. Lwm lub tebchaws tau muaj peev xwm rov qhib tsev kawm ntawv tau zoo, tab sis ntawm no yog vim li cas. Lawv twb muaj peev xwm tsoo qhov nkhaus. Lawv tsis yog khoov qhov nkhaus xwb; lawv tsoo lub nkhaus. Lawv txo qis tus kab mob mus rau zero. Thiab nyob rau tib lub sijhawm, lawv muaj peev xwm txhim kho kev sim thiab tiag tiag muaj lub tswv yim hauv tebchaws thiab kev sib txuas lus meej. Yog li, yog, lawv muaj peev xwm rov qhib tsev kawm ntawv kom nyab xeeb, txawm tias nyob hauv lwm lub tebchaws tau muaj kev sib kis nyob ib puag ncig cov tsev kawm ntawv, ib yam nkaus.

Ib qho tseem ceeb tshaj plaws, dua, uas peb tuaj yeem ua tau kom rov qhib cov tsev kawm ntawv thaum lub caij nplooj zeeg yog txhawm rau txhawm rau qib tus kab mob tam sim no, lub caij ntuj sov. Thiab kuv ntshai tias peb tsis ua qhov ntawd tsis tu ncua thoob plaws lub tebchaws, los ntawm kev ncua ntev.

AMY GOODMAN: Thiab thaum kawg, Dr. Leana Wen, tus thawj tswj hwm retweeting tus qub party ntawm Kev Sib Hlub hnub no, hais cov CDC yog dag, thiab Tsev Dawb muab cov ntsiab lus ntawm kev tawm tsam kev tshawb fawb txog Dr. Anthony Fauci?

DR. LEANA wen: Pej xeem kev noj qab haus huv nyob ntawm pej xeem kev ntseeg. Thiab txhua tus, los ntawm peb cov thawj coj raug xaiv mus rau cov thawj coj hauv zej zog rau txhua tus, yuav tsum ua lawv qhov zoo tshaj plaws txhawm rau txhim kho qhov kev ntseeg siab ntawm pej xeem. Thiab qhov kev ntseeg ntawm pej xeem kuj nyob ntawm kev paub tias txhua tus muaj koj lub siab nyiam.

Thiab kuv yeej - Kuv txhais tau tias, Kuv xav tias nws yog qhov txaus ntshai tiag tiag uas muaj kev cuam tshuam ntawm Dr. Fauci lossis peb lwm tus kws tshaj lij kev noj qab haus huv. Lawv yog ib co ntawm cov zoo tshaj plaws nyob rau hauv lub teb chaws, ib co ntawm qhov zoo tshaj plaws nyob rau hauv lub ntiaj teb no. Thiab qhov kuv xav tau, tshaj txhua yam, yog hnov ​​los ntawm Dr. Fauci. Kuv xav hnov ​​los ntawm CDC txhua hnub. Xav txog yuav ua li cas zoo kawg nkaus rau lub teb chaws, rau peb lub siab, tab sis kuj rau peb txoj kev nkag siab, yog tias peb muaj cov lus qhia txhua hnub los ntawm cov kws paub txog kev noj qab haus huv ntawm pej xeem, vim tias, qhov no yog teeb meem kev noj qab haus huv rau pej xeem, uas yuav tsum tau coj los ntawm cov kws paub txog kev noj qab haus huv ntawm pej xeem, thiab peb yuav tsum hnov ​​lawv lub suab txhua hnub. Kuv xav hnov ​​Dr. Fauci tham txog lub xeev ntawm tus kab mob no. kuv xav hnov ​​nws thiab os CDC Qhia txog cov kev tshawb fawb tshiab kawg thiab nws yog dab tsi uas Asmeskas yuav tsum tau ua. Kuv xav hnov ​​​​lawv tham txog tsev kawm ntawv cov lus qhia, thiab tsis hnov ​​​​los ntawm nom tswv nom tswv pom zoo txog thaum twg cov tsev kawm ntawv yuav tsum qhib. Kuv xav hnov ​​cov pov thawj thiab kev tshawb fawb. Thiab qhov ntawd yog qhov yuav tsum tau tshwm sim nyob rau lub sijhawm no.

AMY GOODMAN: Thaum kawg, Dr. Wen, koj yog ob niam txiv. Tam sim no, lawv tsis muaj hnub nyoog txaus los nyob hauv tsev kawm ntawv pej xeem, tab sis koj puas xa lawv?

DR. LEANA wen: Koj paub, nws nyob ntawm ib feem ntawm lub tebchaws. Muaj qee qhov chaw ntawm lub tebchaws uas tus kabmob tam sim no tswj tau. Thiab nws tseem yuav nyob ntawm kev noj qab haus huv thiab kev pheej hmoo ntawm kuv cov menyuam thiab txhua tus neeg hauv kuv tsev neeg tam sim ntawd, thiab. Yog li, nws tsis yog ib daim pam, ib-loj-fits-tag nrho cov lus teb. Kuv pom zoo nrog qhov ntawd. Tab sis peb yuav tsum muaj cov kev taw qhia yooj yim thiab ua tau raws li kev tshawb fawb- thiab pov thawj cov lus qhia rau thaum muaj kev nyab xeeb, txhawm rau tiv thaiv peb cov menyuam, nrog rau peb cov tub ntxhais kawm thiab — lossis, nrog rau peb cov kws qhia ntawv thiab cov neeg ua haujlwm.

Kuv niam yog ib tug kws qhia ntawv ntev hauv Los Angeles. Nws muaj mob qog noj ntshav thiab tau txais tshuaj khomob rau yim xyoo thaum nws tseem yog xibfwb, thaum nws qhia puv sijhawm. Thiab kuv paub tias yog tias nws tseem muaj sia nyob tam sim no, nws yuav xav tau ntau tshaj li txhua yam, kom rov qab mus kawm ntawv nrog nws cov menyuam. Tab sis peb kuj muaj lub luag haujlwm ua ib lub zej zog los tiv thaiv kev noj qab haus huv ntawm peb cov kws qhia ntawv, ib yam nkaus.

AMY GOODMAN: Dr. Leana Wen, Kuv xav ua tsaug rau koj nrog peb, tus kws kho mob xwm txheej ceev, yav tas los ua haujlwm hauv Baltimore tus kws saib xyuas kev noj qab haus huv, kuj tau pab sau ntawv rau Lub Washington Post. Peb mam li txuas rau nws daim, "Yog Trump xav rov qhib tsev kawm ntawv, ntawm no yog qhov nws cov thawj coj yuav tsum ua."