Ua ʻōlelo ʻo GEORGE W. BUSH e hōʻike ʻo Colin Powell i ka hihia kūʻē iā Iraq ma ka UN. Ua hana ʻo ia pēlā?
Anthony: ʻO nā mea a pau a Powell i hana ai, ʻo ia ka hoʻopiʻi hou ʻana i kahi ʻano o nā ʻōlelo hoʻopiʻi ʻole i hōʻoia ʻia, noʻonoʻo a i kekahi manawa hoʻohenehene i hana ʻole i mea e hōʻoia ai i ka hihia. Ka nupepa Farani Le Monde ʻōlelo maikaʻi loa, i ka wā i ʻōlelo ai ke kali nei mākou i ka "lā hōʻike," akā ua hoʻopau ʻia ʻo ia ka "lā o ka hoʻopiʻi hou ʻana."
ʻEnelani: He hoʻopunipuni ma nā ʻano he nui. No nā kiʻi a pau a me nā hōʻike i hoʻopaʻa ʻia a Powell i hoʻohana ai, ʻaʻohe o ia mea i hōʻike pololei e pili ana i nā mea kaua a me nā mea kaua nuklea. No ka laʻana, ua hōʻike ʻo Powell i nā kiʻi o nā hale hana mea kaua kahi i manaʻo ʻia he mau mea kaua o Iraq a hiki i Dekemaba 22, akā ua neʻe ʻia nā mea kaua ma mua o ka hiki ʻana o nā mea nānā iā lākou.
Me kēia mau kiʻi ukali, ua hōʻike ʻo Powell aia ʻo Iraq ma lalo o kahi telescope i nā manawa āpau. No laila, no ke aha lākou i ʻike ʻole ai i kahi i lawe ʻia ai kēlā mau mea kaua? Inā ʻike lākou ua neʻe a hūnā ʻia lākou, no ke aha lā ʻaʻole hiki iā lākou ke ʻōlelo i hea?
ʻO ke kumu ʻaʻole i kākoʻo maoli ʻo Powell i kekahi mea ʻo ia ka mea i hiki ʻole ke hōʻoia i kāna mau koi. Ua mālama ʻia ka hihia holoʻokoʻa ma ke kiʻekiʻe o ka noʻonoʻo a me ka hoʻopiʻi ʻana, ma mua o ka hōʻike ʻana i nā hōʻike paʻakikī, i hiki ʻole ke hōʻole ʻia.
ʻAno: I ka lā ma hope o ka hāʻawi ʻana o Bush i kāna ʻōlelo State of the Union, ua hāʻawi ʻo Hans Blix - ke poʻo nui o ka mea nānā mea kaua UN - i nīnauele i ka Ka New York Times. Ua ʻōlelo ʻo Blix ʻaʻohe mea hōʻike o kahi pilina ma waena o Iraq a me al-Qaeda. Ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia ʻaʻohe mea hōʻike o ka hoʻomohala ʻana o ka papahana nuklea o Iraq. Ua hōʻole ʻo ia i ka ʻōlelo ʻana aia kekahi mau hōʻike ua komo ʻo Iraq i nā hui nānā. Ua ʻōlelo pū ʻo ia ʻaʻole i hana ʻia kahi hihia no ka hele ʻana i ke kaua me Iraq.
ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻo ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa ka mōʻaukala, e hele ana i nā makahiki i hala, no ka hoʻokomo ʻana i nā hui nānā i mea e kiu ai iā Iraq. A i kēia manawa, me ka US hoʻoweliweli kaua i kēlā me kēia lā, manaʻo ʻia ʻo Iraq e manaʻoʻiʻo ʻaʻole ʻohi hou ka US i ka ʻike e pili ana i nā pahuhopu a pēlā aku, ma o nā mea nānā. He mea kupaianaha loa lākou e kamaʻilio nei e pili ana i ka hoʻāʻo ʻana e hoʻopau i kahi ʻāina i ka manawa like me kā lākou kamaʻilio e pili ana i ka hoʻouka kaua ʻana. He mea paʻakikī ke noʻonoʻo i nā mea hoʻoikaika no ka hui pū ʻana.
ʻEnelani: ʻO kekahi o nā ʻōlelo a Powell i hoihoi nui ʻia e pili ana i nā hale hana mea kaua kelepona a Iraq. ʻO ka hapa nui o kēia i manaʻo ʻia e hoʻokumu ʻia ma ka hōʻike o ka poʻe haʻalele ʻo Iraqi, ʻaʻole hiki ke hilinaʻi ʻia, a i ʻole nā mea paʻa al-Qaeda-i ʻōlelo ʻia mai ka poʻe i hoʻopaʻa ʻia, hōʻole ʻia ke komo ʻana i nā loio a kau ʻia i ka manaʻo noʻonoʻo.
Akā ʻo ka waiho ʻana i kēlā ʻaoʻao, ua hōʻike ʻo Powell i nā kiʻi paheʻe o kēia mau mea i kapa ʻia nā mea kaua-koe wale nō nā mea hana kiʻi. A hōʻike ʻo Powell i kēia me he mea lā he hōʻike maopopo loa ia o ka mea i loaʻa iā Iraq.
A laila aia ka palapala a Powell i ʻōlelo ai mai nā lawelawe naʻauao Pelekane e komo i nā ʻano ʻōlelo kikoʻī āpau e kūʻē i ke aupuni Iraqi. Akā, ua ʻike ʻia ka palapala ma ka hapa liʻiliʻi o ka ʻike mai nā ʻatikala kahiko kahiko i loaʻa ma ka Pūnaewele. ʻO nā mea a pau a lākou i hana ai, ʻo ia ka ʻoki a kāpī i ka ʻike i hoʻokumu ʻole ʻia ma ka naʻauao a i ʻole nā kumu ʻē aʻe. Hiki i kēlā me kēia haumāna kula kiʻekiʻe ke loaʻa ka pūnaewele i kēia mea.
ʻAno: Ua hōʻea mai ka hoʻomalu ʻo Bush me kahi hoʻolālā akamai o ka hōʻike ʻana iā Colin Powell ma ke ʻano haʻahaʻa-e hōʻike ʻo ia ua koi ʻia ʻo ia e kākoʻo i ka hihia no ke kaua. Akā ʻo Powell kahi ʻāpana o ka hoʻolālā o ke kūʻai ʻana i kēia kaua i nā manawa a pau.
He kanaka kēia ʻaʻole wale ke alakaʻi o ke Kaua Kaiwa 1991 a me ka luku ʻana o Iraq i kēlā kaua, akā ua komo pū ʻo ia i ka hoʻonui ʻana i ka imperialism US ma ke ʻano he noho o nā Luna Nui o nā limahana i ka wā o ka hoʻokele Bush.
He kanaka kēia i luna koa ma Vietnam, me ka mana a me ke kuleana o nā pūʻali i hana i ka pepehi kanaka ʻo My Lai. A ʻo ia ka ʻōlelo aʻo a Powell o ka pūʻali koa e ʻike paha mākou e pāʻani ana ma Iraq-ʻo ka hoʻohana ʻana i ka mana koa nui e wāwahi a luku i kekahi ʻenemi US.
POWELL i nā ʻōlelo hoʻopiʻi e pili ana i nā paipu alumini i lawe ʻia mai e Iraq ma ke ʻano he hōʻike o ka papahana nuklear a Iraq. He aha ka ʻoiaʻiʻo e pili ana i kēia?
ʻAno: Ua ʻōlelo pinepine ka International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) e hoʻohana ʻia ka paipu alumini a me nā mea hana i lawe ʻia e Iraq no nā missiles pōkole. ʻAʻohe mea i hōʻike ʻia o kēia mea i hoʻohana ʻia ma ke ʻano he papahana o nā mea kaua nuklea. Akā naʻe, ua hoʻomau ka hoʻomalu ʻo Bush e lana i kēia mau ʻōlelo hoʻopiʻi, a ua hana hou ʻo Colin Powell.
ʻEnelani: Ua hōʻike ʻo Powell iā ia iho ma ke kākoʻo ʻana i nā ʻōlelo a Hans Blix a me [ka luna nui o IAEA] Mohamed ElBaradei a me ka hoʻohui ʻana i nā hōʻike i kā lākou hihia, ʻoiai ʻo nā mea a Powell i ʻōlelo ai he kūʻē pololei e pili ana i nā mea kaua nuklea. Wahi a kā lākou hōʻike, ʻaʻohe mea hōʻike ua hoʻāʻo ʻo Iraq e hoʻomaka hou i kāna papahana nuklea mai ka wā i hoʻopau ʻia ai i nā makahiki 1990.
Ma keia pule aku nei, ua ʻO Washington Times paʻi i kahi palapala e ʻōlelo ana e mālama ana ʻo ʻAmelika i ke kuleana e hoʻohana i nā mea kaua nuklea i kahi hoʻouka mua mua e kūʻē iā Iraq. Manaʻo wau e ʻimi ana lākou i kahi manawa e hoʻohana ai i kahi mea kaua nuklea bunker-buster, ma ke ʻano he ala e pana ai i ka envelopp a hele i kahi paepae hiki ʻole ke noʻonoʻo ʻia. ʻO ka hoʻolaha ʻana i nā ʻāina ʻē aʻe ʻaʻole e hele i ka makemake o ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa, no ka mea, inā ʻoe e hana, e hoʻohuli mākou i kou ʻāina i ʻāina neoneo radioactive.
Pehea e pili ana i ka pilina ma waena o ke aupuni Iraqi a me al-Qaeda?
ʻEnelani: ʻO ke aupuni o ka ʻaoʻao Baâthist o Iraq he aupuni hoʻomalu, a ʻo al-Qaeda ka poʻe Islamist paʻakikī. He poʻe kēia i hoʻokūkū paʻakikī. Akā mai ka lā 11 o Kepakemapa, ua kauoha ke alakaʻi i ka FBI a me CIA e hāʻawi i ka nui o ka hoʻoikaika ʻana i ka palapala ʻana i kahi loulou.
I kēia manawa, loaʻa iā lākou kahi kanaka hoʻokahi, ʻo Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi, aia ma ka ʻākau o Iraq. Ma waho o ka mana o Baghdad a me Saddam Hussein. ʻO ka mea hou aku, ʻo ka ʻaoʻao o al-Qaeda kahi i pili ai ʻo al-Zarqawi i kapa ʻia ʻo Ansar al-Islam. A noho ke poʻo o kēlā ʻaoʻao ma Norewai–me ka manuahi.
ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻaʻohe kūkākūkā e pili ana i ka pana ʻana iā Norewai no ka mālama ʻana i nā mea hoʻoweliweli. ʻO ia no ka mea no ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa, ʻaʻole kēia e pili ana i ke kaua me ka hoʻoweliweli. E pili ana i ke kaua e hoʻolōʻihi i ka hiki ʻana o ke aupuni US i ke ao holoʻokoʻa a paʻa i ka aila o Iraq.
ʻAno: Aia kekahi kiʻi paʻi kiʻi nui i loko o kekahi mau nūpepa o George Bush e hāʻawi ana i kahi hōʻike, a ua kākau ʻo ia i nā huaʻōlelo "al-Qaeda" a me "Iraq," a huki i kahi pōʻai a puni ka "q" ma nā mea ʻelua. huaolelo. A ʻōlelo ʻo ia, "E nānā, ua haʻi wau iā ʻoe aia kahi pilina." Ke hele mai i lalo, pili ia i ka hohonu o ka hōʻike.
Ua hele kahi hui o nā mea hoʻolaha i ka hale hana ma ka ʻĀkau o Iraq e pili ana iā Ansar al-Islam i kapa ʻia ʻo Powell he "mea make a me nā mea pahū." A e like me ka Ka New York Times, "Ua loaʻa iā lākou kahi wahi maikaʻi ʻole - kahi puʻupuʻu liʻiliʻi a me ka hapa nui o nā hale i ʻike ʻia ʻaʻole lawa ka mana ʻoihana." No laila, no ka laʻana, ʻaʻohe paipu ka "pahu hana hoʻoweliweli".
Eia kekahi,ʻo manawa Ua ʻike ʻo Powell ua ʻaʻa ʻo ia i kahi ʻike i loaʻa iā ʻAmelika ma al-Zarqawi, ʻo ia hoʻi ua hana kekahi lālā o ka ʻohana aliʻi ma Qatar i kahi hale palekana no al-Zarqawi i kona hele ʻana i loko a i waho o Afghanistan.
No laila inā makemake ʻoe e nānā i nā pilina o kēia kanaka, ua puka mai ʻo ia mai nā hui a ʻAmelika i kākoʻo ai ma Afghanistan e kūʻē i ka ex-USSR i kona noho ʻana i ka ʻāina i ka makahiki 1980. A ua pili loa ʻo ia iā Qatar-ʻo ia ke kumu o ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa ma ka Hikina Waena a he wahi hoʻokūkū no ka hoʻouka ʻana iā Iraq. Akā ʻaʻole e kamaʻilio ʻo ʻAmelika e pili ana i kēlā pili.
ʻOiai inā he mau hōʻike o kahi papahana mea kaua Iraqi, aia kekahi ala e manaʻo ʻia ai ʻo Iraq he mea hoʻoweliweli i ka US?
ʻAno: ʻO ka mea kū'ē loa ka hihia. ʻO Iraq kahi ʻāina i loaʻa i nā makahiki he 12 o ke kaua kaua. Ua luku ʻia kona hoʻokele waiwai e ka embargo piha loa i kau ʻia ma kahi ʻāina ma ka mōʻaukala. He ʻāina ʻaʻole i kūkulu hou ʻia kona ʻano hana mai ke kaua ʻo Gulf War.
ka New York Times ʻO nā mea hoʻolaha i kipa aku i nā pūnaewele al-Rafah a me al-Rashid a Powell i kamaʻilio ai ma kāna kamaʻilio ʻana i ʻōlelo ʻia ʻelua "ua pahū nui ʻia," i ka 1991 Gulf War a i ʻole nā US a me nā mokulele Pelekane e mākaʻikaʻi ana i nā ʻāpana "no-lele". ʻO kēia nā hoʻouka kaua i hana ʻia i nā makahiki he ʻumi i hala ma lalo o ka uhi o ka pale ʻana i nā Kurds a i ʻole Shiites i hoʻohana ʻia e hoʻopau hou i ka mana koa o Iraq.
ʻO ka pūʻali koa Iraq kahi aka o ia mea. Ua mālama nā hoʻopaʻi i nā waiwai pono e pono ai no ka ʻōnaehana mālama olakino, no ka wai a me ka ʻōnaehana wai. He ʻāina kēia i loko o kahi pilikia. ʻO ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, i ka kali ʻana i ka pana ʻana o ka US, pono nā kauka i nā haukapila a puni ʻo Iraq e kāohi i nā lako i kaupalena ʻia i kēia manawa e hoʻomākaukau ai no ka mea a lākou e alo ai.
Manaʻo ka nui o nā hui kōkua kanaka e ʻoi aku ka nui o ka ʻeha o ke kaua ma Iraq ma mua o ka 1991 Gulf War, ʻoiai ʻoi aku ka pilikia o ka ʻāina i kahi pilikia kanaka ma hope o ka luku ʻia ʻana o kāna ʻoihana i nā makahiki 12 i hala. o ka hoʻopaʻi a me ka pōʻino. ʻAʻole hoʻoweliweli ʻo Iraq i kona mau hoalauna, koe wale nō ʻo ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa.
He mea kupaianaha ka hoʻokamani o nā ʻōlelo a Powell i kekahi manawa, ʻaʻole anei?
ʻAno: ʻO kekahi mea ʻoluʻolu loa i ka wā i ʻōlelo ai ʻo Powell: "He kuleana ko mākou i kēia kino [UN] e ʻike e hoʻokō ʻia kā mākou mau ʻōlelo hoʻoholo." He paʻakikī ke wehewehe ʻana i ka hoʻokamani o kēlā ʻōlelo.
Ua hele mai ʻo Powell i United Nations e kūkākūkā i ka papahana kaua nuklea Israeli? Ke hele mai nei ʻo ia i ka UN e kūkākūkā i ka nele o ka hoʻokō ʻana i nā ʻōlelo hoʻoholo he nui e pili ana i ka noho ʻana o ka ʻIseraʻela ma nā Teritori i Noho ʻia? E pili ana i ka ʻIseraʻela e puhi ana i nā limahana olakino a me nā ambulances Red Cross?
Loaʻa i ka UN nā hālāwai kūikawā e kūkākūkā ai i ka hōʻino ʻana o US i nā ʻōlelo hoʻoholo UN? Ke hele nei ka papa inoa. Hoʻokani lākou i nā kuleana o nā Kurds ma Iraq, akā ʻaʻole lākou e kamaʻilio e pili ana i ke kaua o Turkey i nā Kurds. ʻO ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, aia lākou i ke kamaʻilio ʻana i kēia manawa me Turkey, kahi e hana nei i kahi hoʻolaha hoʻomaʻemaʻe lāhui e kūʻē i ka heluna Kurdish, e pili ana i ka noho ʻana i nā wahi o ka ʻĀkau o Iraq.
E ʻae ʻia ʻo Turkey e noho i kēia wahi no ka pale ʻana i nā Kurds mai ka hakakā ʻana no ke kūʻokoʻa i loko o kahi Iraq hou a i ʻole kahi Kurdistan kūʻokoʻa ma ka ʻāina ākea, ʻo ia ka mea he mea paʻakikī i ke aupuni Turkish.
ʻEnelani: Inā makemake ʻoe e ʻike i ka hoʻohana ʻana i nā mea kaua o ka luku nui ʻana, e nānā i ka mea a ʻAmelika i hana ai iā Iraq me ka hoʻohana ʻana i nā mea kaua uranium i hoʻopau ʻia i ka wā o ke Kaua Gulf mua. Ke hoʻomau nei ka hoʻohana ʻana i ka uranium i hoʻopau ʻia i ka poʻe i hoʻopilikia ʻia ma Iraq, ʻoi aku hoʻi ma nā wahi i paʻakikī loa i ka hema. Aia ka ma'i ma'i 'a'ai ma luna o ka hale, e make ana na keiki i ka ma'i ma'i leukemia, e make ana na kanaka i ka ma'i pulmonary a me ka iwi.
He hana hoʻomāinoino wale nō kēia. Eia naʻe, ʻōlelo ka US ʻo Saddam Hussein lāua ʻo Iraq ka mea i loaʻa nā mea kaua weliweli o ka luku nui.
He aha kou manaʻo ke kumu maoli o kēia hoʻouka kaua?
ʻEnelani: I kekahi manawa i hōʻuluʻulu ai ʻo ia i kāna hihia, ua ʻōlelo ʻo Powell: "Ua hoʻomau ʻo Saddam Hussein i kāna makemake e noho aliʻi iā Iraq a me ka Middle East me ka hoʻohana ʻana i nā ala wale nō āna i ʻike ai: ka hoʻoweliweli, ka hoʻoweliweli a me ka luku ʻana i ka poʻe āpau e kū i kona ala. No Saddam Hussein, ʻo ka loaʻa ʻana o nā mea kaua make loa o ka honua ke kāleka pu hope loa, ʻo ia ka mea e paʻa ai e hoʻokō i kāna makemake.
ʻO nā mea a pau āu e hana ai, ʻo ia ke pani no Saddam Hussein a me Iraq, ʻo George W. Bush a me ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa, a no ka Middle East, e pani i ka honua, a loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi wehewehe kūpono o ke ʻano o ka hana ʻana o ka US ma ke ʻano he hoʻoweliweli honua.
ʻAno: ka New York Times ʻO ka mea kākau moʻolelo ʻo Maureen Dowd i haʻi aku nei i kahi hawk nāna i hoʻopuka akaka loa. "Ma ka hoʻonohonoho ʻana i kā mākou pūʻali koa ma Iraq," i ʻōlelo ʻia ai kēia kumu, "hiki iā mākou ke hoʻohālike i nā ʻāina ʻē aʻe: "Inā ʻoe e hui pū me nā mea hoʻoweliweli a hoʻoweliweli paha iā mākou ma kekahi ʻano a i ʻole ke nānā ʻana mai iā mākou, hiki ke hana kēia. iā ʻoe.’
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