Jean Ross Ma'aikacin jinya ce mai rijista fiye da shekaru 40 a Minnesota da Co-Shugaba National Nurses United.
SHARMINI PERIES: Barka da zuwa Cibiyar Labaran Gaskiya. Ni Sharmini Peries ne, na zo muku daga Baltimore.
Bayan 'yan makonni masu cizon ƙusa a kan tsaunin, dokar kula da lafiyar Trump-Ryan, wanda wasu da ake yiwa lakabi da wadata, 'yan Republican suka janye. Ya bayyana a fili cewa 'yan Republican ba su da isasshen adadin kuri'un da suke bukata don zartar da Dokar Kula da Lafiya ta Amurka; amma hakan bai hana Trump yin gaggawar dora wa ‘yan jam’iyyar Democrat ba. Mu duba.
DONALD TRUMP: A'a, ina ganin dole ne mu bar Obamacare ya tafi na ɗan lokaci kaɗan kuma za mu ga yadda abubuwa ke tafiya. Ina so in ga ya yi kyau, amma ba zai iya ba. Ina nufin ba zai iya ba. Ba tambaya ba ne na gee ina fata yana da kyau, zan so ya yi kyau. Ina son ingantacciyar lafiya ga al'ummar wannan kasa. Amma ba zai iya yin kyau ba. Yana tasowa kuma nan ba da jimawa ba zai fashe. Kuma ba zai zama kyakkyawa ba. Don haka, jam’iyyar Democrat ba ta son ganin haka, don haka za su kai ga lokacin da suka shirya kuma duk lokacin da suka shirya, muna shirye.
SHARI'AR SHARMINI: Duk 'yan Republican masu ra'ayin mazan jiya da masu matsakaicin ra'ayi sun yi adawa da dokar. Wasu saboda a ce sun yi nisa wajen wargaza shirye-shiryen da ake da su; da sauran saboda bai kai nisa ba. A cikin matsananciyar matsaya don ceton kudirin, Shugaban Masu Rinjaye na Majalisar, Paul Ryan ya amince da rangwamen da kwamitin 'yancin ra'ayin mazan jiya ya nema, ta hanyar kawar da mafi ƙarancin ƙa'idodin ɗaukar hoto waɗanda inshorar da ake buƙata don cikawa. Kasance tare da mu yanzu don tattauna wannan yanayin shine Jean Ross, Ma'aikacin jinya mai rijista sama da shekaru 40 a Minnesota kuma Shugaban Ma'aikatan Jiya na Ƙasa - Jean - yana da kyau a sami ku tare da mu.
JEAN ROSS: Na gode, na yi farin cikin kasancewa a nan.
SHARMINI PERIES: Jean, don haka ma'aikatan aikin jinya sun yi gwagwarmaya sosai don kayar da Dokar Kiwon Lafiyar Amurka ta Trump da Ryan. Dole ne ku yi farin ciki.
JEAN ROSS: Mun ji daɗi sosai. Mugun lissafin ne. Ya fi abin da muke da shi a yanzu; ko da yake abin da muke da shi yanzu shine abin da muka san muna bukata a wannan ƙasa - Medicare ga kowa. Don haka, eh mun ji daɗi sosai.
SHARMINI PRIES: Dama, to menene ƴan batutuwan da ba su da daɗi ko da na Republican?
JEAN ROSS: To, ina tsammanin, kun san idan kun kalli abin da muke da shi a yanzu - Dokar Kula da Lafiya - wanda har ya bar miliyoyin nawa? Wani abu kamar miliyan 28 wanda har yanzu basu da inshora. Wannan ya sa hakan ya fi muni - wani miliyan 24; ta kuma sanya kudaden da ya kamata a kula da jama’ar al’umma a cikin aljihun masu hannu da shuni da ba sa bukatar su kwata-kwata. Don haka, mun san kawai abin da zai yi aiki shine tsarin Medicare ga kowa - wanda ba wai kawai inshorar kowa bane, amma a zahiri yana nuna cewa dukkanmu muna samun kulawa.
SHARMINI PRIES: Don haka, da sauran 'yan jam'iyyar Democrat, kodayake suna cikin tsiraru, suna iya yin bikin. Wannan nasara ce ga jam'iyyar Democrat. Babban shan kashi ga 'yan Republican ko da wane bangare na sansanin Republican kuke. Wannan babban kaye ne ga Trump da Ryan da kuma ‘yan jam’iyyar Republican da suka hau karagar mulki da irin wannan takura. To, me kuke ganin za su yi a gaba?
JEAN ROSS: To, idan suna da hankali, za su saurare mu, da kuma mafi yawan jama'ar kasar nan, kuma su tura kudirin kiwon lafiya na gaske. Idan ana maganar ko wanne daga cikin jam’iyyun, akwai laifi da yawa a zagaya. Muna buƙatar tsarin da baya buƙatar riba ga mutanen da suka riga sun kasance masu arziki. Muna buƙatar tsarin da zai tabbatar da kulawa ga kowa da kowa a wannan ƙasa. Don haka, da zarar kowace jam’iyya ta yi haka, za mu kasance a bayansu.
SHARMINI PERIES: Kuma wannan kuma wata dama ce ta sake dawo da wasu tattaunawa da ma'aikatan jinya suka kasance masu tausayi da sha'awar su, wanda shine kula da lafiya ga kowa da kowa. Shin wannan dama ce ta sake dawo da wasu daga cikin waɗannan ƙa'idodin?
JEAN ROSS: Lallai. Shi ne kawai abin da zai yi aiki. Ba daidaituwa ba ne cewa ba mu da mafi kyawun tsarin kiwon lafiya a duniya. Wasu ƙasashe sun wuce mu kuma a bayyane yake saboda suna da Medicare ga kowane nau'in tsarin. Idan kun dage kan simintin ka'idar, hanyar yin kasuwanci zuwa wurin da ke tabbatar da riba ta farko, da kiwon lafiya na biyu, ko na uku a layin - koyaushe zaku ƙare da abin da muke da shi yanzu. Wannan tsarin baya aiki.
SHARMINI PARIES: Dama. Yanzu, matsalar da Dokar Kiwon Lafiyar Amurka ta Trump da Ryan ke fama da ita ita ce farashin abubuwa da gaske, wanda zai karu; amma kuma adadin mutanen da dokar tasu ta shafa zai yi kasa sosai. Kuma suna cewa mutane miliyan 12 za a rufe a karkashin sabuwar dokar. Yanzu, wannan yana iya zama ruwa a ƙarƙashin gada a wannan lokacin, amma a lokaci guda, ba na tsammanin za su saki wasu daga cikin waɗannan batutuwan da suka yi fama da su tsawon shekaru bakwai da suka wuce cikin sauƙi. Shin ma'aikatan jinya suna shirin ci gaba da yakar wannan?
JEAN ROSS: Eh, da kyau, ba za mu daina ba. Ina nufin, za mu ci gaba da yin haka har sai mun sami wuri na Medicare ga duk tsarin. Mu dai dole ne. Ina nufin za ku iya… muna kula da mutane a zahiri, ku yi adadi; amma idan da gaske mutane sun damu da kuɗi da kuɗi, to dole ne su kalli Medicare don kowane tsarin kuma - saboda ita kaɗai ce za ta cece mu isassun kuɗi don yin ta mai amfani ga wannan ƙasa. Yana aiki a wasu ƙasashe. Zai yi mana aiki.
SHARMINI PERIES: To, Jean, na gode sosai don kasancewa tare da mu a yau kuma za mu dawo gare ku mako mai zuwa, na tabbata; yayin da jam'iyyar Republican ke tsinkayar wannan babban rashi.
JEAN ROSS: To, na gode.
SHARMINI PRIES: Wannan babban rashi ne ga jam'iyyar Republican amma ba a fili ga Amurkawa ba. Na gode muku duka da kuka kasance tare da mu a nan gidan yanar gizon Gaskiya.
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